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04:15.28 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu is Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo3.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo3 |
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07:37.53 | int_ua | freemangordon: Hi, we are talking about the 3.0 kernel with mpoirier on the #linaro channel if you are interested :) |
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09:37.51 | freemangordon | arcean, ping |
09:38.01 | arcean | freemangordon, pong |
09:38.30 | freemangordon | arcean, why new h-d is not in -devel repo, after all that is the whole purpose of that repo |
09:39.07 | arcean | lack of time to make desaturation configurable |
09:39.30 | freemangordon | configurable? what needs to be configured? |
09:39.45 | freemangordon | aah, a way to disable it? |
09:39.55 | arcean | yes, the way to enable/disable |
09:40.09 | freemangordon | but that is not a reason for it to not enter -devel repo |
09:40.19 | freemangordon | AIU |
09:40.22 | freemangordon | *AIUI |
09:40.44 | arcean | hmm |
09:40.47 | arcean | you're right :D |
09:41.20 | freemangordon | see, if we continue to attach .debs ont TMO threads, -devel repo will never start to be what it is supposed to be :) |
09:42.05 | freemangordon | arcean, BTW you have access to -devel repo, ain't? |
09:42.19 | arcean | Do we have the CSSU-devel thread on tmo? |
09:42.26 | freemangordon | arcean, yes |
09:42.36 | arcean | ah, great :) |
09:43.13 | freemangordon | arcean, BTW have in mind I have that enabled on my primary phone, be careful what you put in there :P |
09:43.41 | arcean | :D |
09:44.05 | freemangordon | arcean, 10x |
09:44.21 | arcean | at least we'll know if something's broken :) |
09:44.57 | freemangordon | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84292 |
09:45.00 | freemangordon | yeah |
09:46.11 | freemangordon | arcean, have in ming that usually package version in -devel repo should end up with .X |
09:46.17 | freemangordon | *mind |
09:47.27 | freemangordon | i.e. do not increase package version in changelog, just add .0,.1,..., so next testing update(which will have version increased) will take recedence |
09:47.59 | arcean | i don't know about that, thanks :) |
09:50.11 | freemangordon | arcean, what is now in -devel repo is "Version: 1:2.2.142-21.1", so when adding the entry in debian/changelog, you should use 1:2.2.142-21.2 |
09:50.49 | freemangordon | so the next testing will be 1:2.2.142-22 ;) |
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10:37.45 | Pali | freemangordon, if you have time pack & push my patched HAM to -devel repo for testing |
10:38.09 | freemangordon_ | ok |
10:38.18 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-hildon-application-manager |
10:38.37 | Pali | but I'm not sure if working correctly, so it really needs testing :) |
10:38.58 | freemangordon_ | :-) |
11:09.56 | Raimu | I installed kernel-cssu yesterday. |
11:11.28 | Raimu | Also installed all of the thumb-compiled pieces from cssu-thumb. That prompted things like this one stickynotes widget and Fapman not starting anymore. |
11:11.59 | Raimu | Running fapman through terminal gave a error message about some Qt things missing. |
11:12.38 | freemangordon_ | Rainu, you're missing new libstdc++ ;-) |
11:13.03 | freemangordon_ | Raimu |
11:13.07 | Raimu | I see. |
11:13.18 | freemangordon_ | sorry, typing from my n900 |
11:14.10 | freemangordon_ | I will upload it somewheri in an hour or so and will ping you |
11:14.16 | Raimu | Kay! |
11:14.23 | freemangordon_ | :-) |
11:14.31 | Raimu | Is there a TMO thread on the thumb experiment, BTW? |
11:14.36 | Raimu | Not that it necessarily needs one YET. |
11:15.28 | freemangordon_ | still not, as you see, it is not ready for the general public yet |
11:17.22 | Raimu | freemangordon_: Anything noteworthy different between k-cssu and kp50 except for the fix? |
11:18.31 | freemangordon_ | battery charger module |
11:32.18 | freemangordon | Raimu, here http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=7a7c0ddb15 |
11:33.20 | freemangordon | unzip tu /usr/lib and change libstdc++.so.6 to point to libstdc++.so.6.0.16 |
11:33.24 | freemangordon | *to |
11:40.53 | Raimu | Huum |
11:43.35 | freemangordon | Raimu, huum as in? |
11:44.53 | freemangordon | Raimu, btw what did apt-get said about how less storage will be used? |
11:45.00 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: when the libpackage is ready I can do you the mp :D |
11:46.29 | freemangordon | merlin1991, thanks, I am still not convinced *-mp is a good idea. -thumb repo follows -devel repo and as it is changed frequently, managing -mp will be a PITA |
11:46.54 | merlin1991 | though without mp you can't tell people to go add this repo and be happy :D |
11:47.04 | merlin1991 | things are bound to break that way |
11:47.09 | freemangordon | yeah, I know :( |
11:47.31 | freemangordon | well, ok, will try to make lib thingie today |
11:47.47 | Raimu | freemangordon: As in "let's get cracking". :) Done now. |
11:47.59 | freemangordon | aah :) |
11:48.12 | freemangordon | you should have everything in place now |
11:48.18 | Raimu | freemangordon: You mean how much rootfs is used by installing the everything thumbed? |
11:48.23 | Raimu | -the |
11:49.00 | freemangordon | Raimu, apt0get upgrade usually tells "n kilobytes will be freed" |
11:49.06 | merlin1991 | I think all in all you'll lose a bit of rootfs space since qt moves back into /usr instead of opt |
11:49.17 | freemangordon | :nod: |
11:49.22 | merlin1991 | tough ofc overall space consumption goes down |
11:49.33 | Raimu | Yes, I recall rootfs space dropped by several megabytes. |
11:49.35 | freemangordon | but there should be gain from moving Qt to nand |
11:49.57 | freemangordon | and it will be compensated when more packages are thumb-compiled |
11:50.37 | freemangordon | my question was "how much space we gain by using thumb" |
11:51.00 | freemangordon | no matter if it is in rottfs or in /opt |
11:52.55 | freemangordon | Raimu, BTW is there any visible slowdown from using kernel-cssu? |
11:55.11 | merlin1991 | bah it's summer and all I get here is fsckd rain |
11:55.23 | freemangordon | merlin1991, same here :( |
11:55.54 | freemangordon | it was raining for the last week or so |
11:56.02 | merlin1991 | we should do a cssu meetup one day :D |
11:56.27 | freemangordon | merlin1991, we should have a new update some day |
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11:56.45 | merlin1991 | yeah |
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11:58.23 | Raimu | freemangordon: Not that I can discern. |
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11:58.28 | freemangordon | merlin1991, would you made that -thumb libstdc++ shit for me, I want to RE facebook stuff |
11:59.01 | merlin1991 | hm I guess if you've tared up all the stuff I could try make a package of it |
11:59.42 | freemangordon | merlin1991, the library here here http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=7a7c0ddb15 is all that is needed so far |
11:59.49 | freemangordon | and a symlink change |
11:59.55 | merlin1991 | okay I'll see what I can do |
12:00.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991, thanks a lot |
12:12.21 | freemangordon | Raimu, is everything ok with the new library? |
12:15.26 | Raimu | So far. :) |
12:16.28 | freemangordon | BTW I hope you'de rebooted, so everyone to use newer library |
12:16.36 | Raimu | Hnngh, the thumbed libraries ate something like 15 megs off rootfs. |
12:16.45 | Raimu | Yeah, I power cycled the phone. |
12:18.00 | freemangordon | Raimu, that is because Qt is moved to rootfs from /opt |
12:18.21 | freemangordon | we will regain those back when more stuff is thumb-cmpipled |
12:18.47 | Raimu | Yeah, I got that they went into rootfs now. It's still an "ouch", because I'm used to trying to converse the space there. :) |
12:20.29 | freemangordon | move libflashplayer to /opt |
12:20.31 | freemangordon | :D |
12:20.37 | Raimu | *conserve |
12:20.49 | Raimu | Yeah, if space becomes ultra-scarce. |
12:27.45 | Raimu | freemangordon: Okay, all done. I'll report about things if they turn up. |
12:34.17 | freemangordon | ok |
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15:28.54 | Raimu | arcean: About that monochroming addition for hildon-desktop's closing programs... I noticed it doesn't monochrome the app if you 'x' the program that's maximized currently and then pop on the running apps view. |
15:29.39 | Raimu | Doing this to mark an app window pending for closing is a great idea, by the way. |
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