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09:18.11freemangordonmerlin1991, ping
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09:28.05merlin1991freemangordon: pong
09:30.20freemangordonmerlin1991, I am unable to import kernel-cssu in both -thumb and -devel repo, error is "no distribution found".
09:30.34freemangordonbut there is one, for sure :D
09:33.20merlin1991lemme see yourchangelog
09:33.31merlin1991is gitorious valid?
09:33.45freemangordonyep
09:34.30merlin1991arf gitorious web does not allow to show it, can you past me the latest changelog entry?
09:35.12freemangordonkernel-cssu (1:2.6.28-10cssu0) fremantle; urgency=low
09:35.23merlin1991fremantle has to be unstable
09:35.30freemangordonaaah
09:35.33merlin1991the repo maps unstable -> fremantle
09:35.40freemangordonok
09:39.29freemangordonmerlin1991, BTW it is -devel the correct repo to put kernel-cssu in?
09:39.49merlin1991nope :D
09:39.55freemangordonwhy?
09:40.04merlin1991it's neccessary for -thumb afaik  :)
09:40.34freemangordonnope, it has bugfixes for bugs against CSSU
09:40.50freemangordonthumb is just a feature
09:40.52merlin1991well you can put it into -devel aswell since it is a devel thing
09:41.32freemangordonyeah
09:41.33merlin1991bug against cssu in the kernel?
09:41.36freemangordonyep
09:41.39merlin1991do you mean bluetooth?
09:41.49freemangordonBT sysfs buffer overfolw
09:42.41freemangordoncheck https://garage.maemo.org/pm/task.php?func=detailtask&project_task_id=1980&group_id=2300&group_project_id=3864
09:42.47merlin1991hm what were the bq24150*  patches?
09:43.01freemangordoncharger support
09:43.15freemangordonbut kernel don't boot with those enabled :D
09:43.26freemangordonPali promise to look at it during the weekend
09:43.29merlin1991okay I'll try it the other way around what's missing with them disabled :D
09:43.35freemangordonnothing
09:43.53freemangordonthose are bleeding-edge, planed for KP51
09:44.00merlin1991ah I see
09:44.02freemangordonthe are not in KP50
09:44.07freemangordon*they
09:44.11merlin1991what would they bring?
09:44.31merlin1991and please don't say charger support again xD
09:44.41freemangordonjust a second
09:44.55freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/hald-addon-bme/hald-addon-bme
09:45.01freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/libbmeipc/libbmeipc
09:45.20freemangordona way to get rid of BME
09:45.54merlin1991intresting
09:46.10merlin1991I guess that depends on palis to be finished kernel module?
09:46.14freemangordonplus hostmode will be better supported, ask Pali for details
09:46.50freemangordonno, right now it is almost POC, there is just bq battery module support, no charging
09:47.43freemangordonbut it BME to be replaced we need to just code the remaining stuff (i.e. charging ad some other)
09:48.22merlin1991and exporting bme signals to all the stock fun that still uses it ;)
09:48.46freemangordonthat is done by hal addon, most of it is in place :P
09:49.51merlin1991if we ever going to ship that with cssu by default we'll have some fun regression testing ahead of us :D
09:50.43freemangordonyeah, sure, but before that we should re-define CSSU, as BME replacement is out of the scope so far :P
09:50.53merlin1991yep
09:51.18freemangordoncssu-extras?
09:51.20merlin1991though technically we could ship it in our to be done "replaces" channel :)
09:51.30freemangordonyeah
09:51.32merlin1991and would still stay in scope :)
09:51.55freemangordon:)
09:52.23freemangordonbtw i think you should reprocess kernel-cssu packages, once the upload finishes
09:52.47merlin1991how do you mean that?
09:53.48freemangordonNFC, I suspect just overwriting the packages in ./incoming would not be enough
09:53.57merlin1991should be enough
09:54.04freemangordonok, lets see
09:54.51freemangordonyeah, it is enough :)
09:56.12freemangordonmerlin1991, now the kernel just need correct warning message when flashing, now it uses KP's one
09:56.17freemangordon*needs
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12:23.28Estel_aren't we going to get lost in all those cssu, cssu-extras cssu-replaces, cssu-heaven etc channels?
12:23.50Estel_it sounds like army of devs and maintainers like debian's one needed to keep them in sync
12:24.09Estel_+ testing more complicated programs against all combinations of those on device...
12:24.12Estel_headache
12:24.35Estel_something for 2000 voting ballots community, not 200+, IMO
12:25.21Estel_...despite being great idea on it's own, I'm afraid that such many channels of, honestly, main system package, sounds like overkill
12:41.02merlin1991Estel_: no worries there's only 3
12:41.19merlin1991cssu then cssu-extras and cssu-thumb when freemag has it ready :)
12:41.26merlin1991err freeman
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13:13.45freemangordonmerlin1991, cssu-devel too :P
13:16.44Estel_:P
13:17.26Estel_if it's not too much hassle for people working for it, OR for people working on generic programs to keep compatibility between 3 versions + stock...
13:17.37Estel_it's ok for me
13:18.26freemangordonEstel_, it would be different in reality, CSSU-devel, goes to either -testing or -extras, along with going to -thumb
13:19.03freemangordonthere are 3 repos to be really maintained (as merlin1991 said)
13:47.18Estel_yea, understand that
13:47.41Estel_but everyone writing program would need to make it compatible with cssu, cssu extras, cssu thumb, and stock
13:48.11Estel_even now, writing simple ereswap, I've hit problem with non- busybox-power users
13:48.35Estel_(frankly, busybox-power should be part of CSSU for ages, as it don't provide any regressions)
13:49.06Estel_I can only imagine what will happen, when more complicated apps will start to appear
13:49.21Estel_for all 4 versions (cssu variants and stock)
13:49.42Estel_I bet at the end everything written will be aimed at cssu-extras-thumb variant
13:50.11Estel_with "it may work with other variants, although wasn't tested by me and I'm not interested in doing so"
13:51.05Estel_= enforcing users to either sit on stock obsolete, or full CSSU, with intermediate cssu variants being obsolete this or other way around
13:51.42Estel_no matter if all-mighty maintainers like it, or not. Anyway, I don't want to start another flamewar, so...
13:51.46Estel_time will tell.
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