IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20120411

00:05.56*** join/#maemo-ssu Raimu-Z (~raimu@kameli.net)
00:16.01*** join/#maemo-ssu KrayonWork (~krayon@pdpc/supporter/28for7/krayon)
01:32.59merlin1991hm wft http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1190291&postcount=161
01:33.08merlin1991I think he kinda missed the first post of the stable thread
01:45.19*** join/#maemo-ssu Raimu-Z (~raimu@kameli.net)
02:22.30merlin1991srly that post made me want to rage
02:33.06Lava_Crofthands merlin1991 a stressball
02:36.42merlin1991hehe thanks :)
02:40.13*** join/#maemo-ssu amiconn_ (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn)
03:48.00*** join/#maemo-ssu MohammadAG (~MohammadA@ool-45772b34.dyn.optonline.net)
03:48.50*** join/#maemo-ssu LinuxCode (~LinuxCode@fedora/LinuxCode)
05:09.35*** join/#maemo-ssu psycho_oreos (~no@unaffiliated/tuxsavvy)
05:39.30*** join/#maemo-ssu Pali (~pali@unaffiliated/pali)
06:50.26*** join/#maemo-ssu dafox (~dafox@dyn-194208.nbw.tue.nl)
06:57.07*** join/#maemo-ssu DocScrutinizer (~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg)
08:55.16*** join/#maemo-ssu BCMM (~ben@unaffiliated/bcmm)
10:01.55*** join/#maemo-ssu arcean (~Arcean@aaer151.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)
10:43.32*** join/#maemo-ssu lizardo (lizardo@nat/indt/x-zpjyhoolqpjahwxm)
11:30.58*** join/#maemo-ssu arcean_ (~Arcean@aada146.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)
11:49.13Lava_Croftit is a cruel world where your phone contract is nearly over and there is no single device on the market that you desire to get in combination with a new contract
11:51.50gulyi'd go with newer iphone, just to regret 9500 communicator
11:52.08Lava_Croftmy wife has an iphone, thats enough for me
11:52.12Lava_Crofti only use it to check games
11:52.20Lava_Croftbesides, the OS is no option
11:52.23Lava_Croftsame with android :\
11:52.54Lava_Croftill just scurry off and cry some more
12:24.44DocScrutinizerget N900 in good condition, maybe offer to swap for $random-phone from your contract
12:25.23gulywhat about n950 ?
12:25.49DocScrutinizerthere's definitely no substitute or successor for N900
12:26.09DocScrutinizereven n950 sucks, I don't use it at all
12:26.17gulygood devices always die alone
12:27.00Lava_Crofti have 2 n900s already
12:27.07Lava_Croftbut they are slow
12:27.24Lava_Crofti was just a bit whining about how there is no real replacement
12:28.36gulyi had to wait 6 years after selling my 9500communicator
12:29.12Lava_Croft5510 here
12:29.21Lava_Croftn900 replaced it
12:57.18DocScrutinizerguly: I gather you'll get enough n900 for the next 6 years
12:59.30gulyi'll do for sure
13:15.12*** join/#maemo-ssu BCMM (~ben@unaffiliated/bcmm)
13:19.21*** join/#maemo-ssu M4rtinK (~M4rtinK@ip-89-102-207-166.net.upcbroadband.cz)
13:57.39*** join/#maemo-ssu BCMM (~ben@unaffiliated/bcmm)
14:18.25*** join/#maemo-ssu sigkill_ (~sigkill@bl6-91-173.dsl.telepac.pt)
15:06.40*** join/#maemo-ssu NIN101 (~NIN@206.253.166.69)
16:07.15*** join/#maemo-ssu M4rtinK (~M4rtinK@ip-89-102-207-166.net.upcbroadband.cz)
16:20.38*** join/#maemo-ssu dafox (~dafox@80.187.201.33)
16:34.04freemangordonDocScrutinizer, Pali ping
16:34.21Palifreemangordon, pong
16:34.42freemangordonPali, i am chasing the bug with mmc rename in filemanager
16:34.57freemangordonare you aware of it?
16:35.15PaliI did not looked at that bug
16:36.22freemangordonwell, if you rename a fat partition using filemanager, the voluma label is changed, but even HAL knows nothing about new label and keeps the old one. a reboot is needed so new label to appear correctly
16:36.47*** join/#maemo-ssu int_ua (~int_ua@93.126.96.47)
16:36.57freemangordonmyu question si - could anyone give me some hint where to start from :)
16:37.12Paliso hal does not update label?
16:37.15freemangordons/myu question si/my question is/
16:37.18freemangordonyep
16:37.26freemangordonremains the old one
16:37.32Palitry to run partprobe ioctl on mmc device
16:37.50Palihal then should reread partitions from /dev/
16:38.10Paliand I belive then it update also label
16:38.11freemangordonbut the voulume is re-mounted
16:38.23freemangordonby ke-recv afaik
16:39.06Paliwho is renaming label?
16:39.08Palike-recv?
16:39.32freemangordonyep
16:39.44freemangordonusing mmc-rename.sh
16:40.30Palisee this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10363
16:40.31povbotBug 10363: signature problem
16:40.43Palishut up povbot!
16:40.58Palimaybe hal really does not suppot it
16:41.31freemangordonhmm, could we hack it with some hal_set_property?
16:41.36freemangordonfrom ke-recv
16:41.59Palino idea
16:42.24PaliI think we could really use something to force hal to reread part info
16:42.32freemangordonPali, what is strange is that the volume is unmounted first and the mounted
16:42.58freemangordonso HAL should remove the device and re-add it
16:43.02freemangordonAIUI
16:43.28freemangordoncould be a problem in ke-recv not unmounting the correct volume?
16:43.53DocScrutinizertry partprobe
16:44.14Palifreemangordon, why mmc-rename.sh using mlabel?
16:44.24PaliI think it should use dosfslabel
16:44.32freemangordonby historical reasons :D
16:44.47Palimlabel has stupid windows drive configuration in /etc/mtools.conf
16:45.07freemangordonyep, but mtools are used everywhere from what I saw
16:45.24freemangordonsomething to do with USB
16:45.31freemangordonmass storage mode
16:45.36DocScrutinizer???
16:45.50Palialso mtool support only fat
16:46.10Paliand also only drives configured in /etc/mtools.conf
16:46.28freemangordonI know, right now we cannot ranme other filesystems using filemanager :D
16:46.28PaliI think that script should be changed to use dosfslabel and e2label
16:46.52Pali[fs]label programs has same syntax
16:47.04freemangordonagree, but lets fix what is broken before doing that
16:47.44Palifreemangordon, try to run partprobe after renaming label
16:47.54Palialso partx
16:48.02Paliif this fixing hal problem
16:48.40DocScrutinizerthrows up a little at /usr/sbin/mmc-rename.sh
16:48.56freemangordonno such things here, my busybox is not so fancy as yours :D
16:49.31DocScrutinizer(me suggests echo partprobe >> /usr/sbin/mmc-rename.sh nevertheless
16:49.47freemangordonno partprobe here
16:49.53Palipartprobe and partx calling some syscall
16:49.54DocScrutinizero.O
16:50.06Paliyes, maemo5 has no partprobe ....
16:50.07freemangordonno partx
16:50.14PaliI see now
16:50.33Paliseems that messybox is more messy now :D
16:50.36DocScrutinizeryup, no partprobe
16:50.39DocScrutinizer:-/
16:50.43freemangordonhmm, a the remount should do the trick
16:51.03DocScrutinizernope
16:51.15DocScrutinizerremount is one level above what you need
16:52.35freemangordonbut volume labels are not in poartition table AFAIK
16:55.21freemangordonis going to ask google
16:58.59DocScrutinizervolume labels are read when the fs type of partition gets scanned, afaik. Also it seems I recall you label partitions in (*)fdisk
16:59.31freemangordonhmm, remember DOS format?
16:59.53DocScrutinizercfdisk has [label}
17:00.07DocScrutinizerfor each partition
17:00.24DocScrutinizerI conclude: part labels are related to part table
17:00.47freemangordonit was asking for volume label at the end, so label is on volume level, and is stored in 1st sector(of the volume), not in partition table IIRC
17:01.06DocScrutinizerhmmm
17:02.43DocScrutinizerdd if=/dev/mmcblk1p1 bs=256 count=1|od -c
17:05.05freemangordonyep, confirmed
17:05.27freemangordonno need to re-read partition table
17:06.42DocScrutinizeryou're right, no partition name in MBR
17:08.51DocScrutinizervolume-labels are primary domain of (mk|tweak)fs
17:09.30DocScrutinizerstill they are in partition's sector 0 and thus rather low level
17:10.18DocScrutinizeranyway, depending on what's your error, you need to do the right rereading, and of course you should umount the volume prior to editing label
17:10.20*** join/#maemo-ssu andre__ (~andre@dslb-092-076-137-048.pools.arcor-ip.net)
17:10.21*** join/#maemo-ssu andre__ (~andre@Maemo/community/bugmaster/andre)
17:11.39DocScrutinizerfreemangordon: see blkid, it doesn't care about mounts at all and only knows phynames. still it knows about volume-labels
17:12.40DocScrutinizeruse blkid -g and/or blkid -c /dev/null to check if kernel has noticed your label renaming
17:13.06DocScrutinizerif it hasn't, you'll need partprobe, I guess
17:13.28DocScrutinizerif it knows new label (in blkid), then a remount might suffice
17:14.21freemangordonblkid knows about label change
17:14.28freemangordonwithout any arguments
17:14.44DocScrutinizerdon't use blkid without arguments, it's bogus output
17:14.51freemangordonit is ok
17:15.01DocScrutinizerno it's not
17:15.11freemangordonit shows the correct label for FAT partition on sd card
17:15.12DocScrutinizersee 24h backscroll
17:15.15freemangordonyeah
17:15.29freemangordoni know that it caches volumes
17:15.47freemangordonbut it seems smart enough to spit the correct volume labels
17:16.01DocScrutinizermere incidence
17:16.03freemangordoni.e. not the cached ones
17:16.07freemangordonwhatever
17:16.39freemangordonso, kernel knows about changed volume label, it seems there is something wrong with th remount
17:16.48freemangordonlet me try to remount by hand
17:16.55DocScrutinizeryou're free to check your blkid cache and see when and how it changes
17:17.11DocScrutinizeror you simply trust in blkid -g
17:17.46freemangordonDocScrutinizer, i've changed volume label just before running blkid, and it showed me the new one, that is pretty enough for me
17:17.59DocScrutinizerI dunno if a remount is even possible when file handles are open to the volume
17:18.09freemangordonnothing is open
17:18.17freemangordoni'll do unmount/mount
17:18.25freemangordonnot mount - remount
17:18.32freemangordonnot mount -o remount
17:18.45DocScrutinizerfreemangordon: I'm getting bored by your argumentation of "what I see is what I expected, so I don't bother if what I see is correct"
17:19.22freemangordonDocScrutinizer, not helping much. And TBH i was expecting blkid to give me the cached labal.
17:22.38freemangordonhmm, hal shows the volume even if unmounted, with the old volume label, after all it seems hal_set_property is unavoidable :(
17:23.25DocScrutinizerthat's why umount is done via ke-recv
17:23.38freemangordonyou mean?
17:23.58freemangordondidn't understand why?
17:24.35DocScrutinizerthink about removing battery lid
17:24.45DocScrutinizerwhat's happening in system?
17:25.01freemangordonforced unmount of sd card
17:25.51freemangordonAFAIK
17:25.55DocScrutinizerwhy doesn't hal show uSD after opening bat lid?
17:28.56freemangordoniirc there was a hck in kernel nadling the situation by unloading the device
17:29.19freemangordonbut it is different case here
17:29.44DocScrutinizeryou're sure about it's any different?
17:30.30freemangordonI think so, we are only re-mountn a volume, but mmc device does not change in any way
17:30.53freemangordonhowever, I will try to do hal-set-property and will report if it helps
17:31.49DocScrutinizerit for sure helps
17:32.04DocScrutinizerthe question is, will it fix the root problem?
17:34.02freemangordonno
17:34.05ShadowJKcould someone  summarize the problem?
17:34.44freemangordonI am not sure if there is such thing like hal-volume-monitor, but if there is, the problem might be there
17:35.23freemangordonShadowJK, if you rename a volume in filemanager, the new volume name to show you need to reboot the device
17:35.39ShadowJKdid this work in fremantle?
17:35.59freemangordonwe are talking about fremantle
17:36.29DocScrutinizerShadowJK meant did it work on stock fremantle
17:37.54DocScrutinizerand tbh I doubt it works on my openSuse11 PC
17:44.17DocScrutinizerShadowJK: the question is: when is who reading the volume labels?
17:44.39DocScrutinizerwhat needs to be done to retrigger this procedure?
17:45.22DocScrutinizerI gather partprobe is doing exactly that
17:45.35ShadowJKwonders if maemo 1.0 was begun before blkid
17:46.12DocScrutinizera derived probelm is: when and why is hal reading the volume labels, and from where?
17:46.29freemangordon:nod:
17:47.16ShadowJKin a normal linux distro, from before hal was killed, would be getting info about new drives and cards from hal
17:47.30ShadowJKand ask hal to mount/umount
17:47.51DocScrutinizerof course you can fix the hal problem by "hacking" hal, by sending a explicit update for a particular label, you even can make hal think the label is "mickeymouse"
17:48.42DocScrutinizerindeed. On maemo though I guess ke-.recv is doing the (u)mount
17:49.14DocScrutinizer[2012-04-11 19:23:25] <DocScrutinizer> that's why umount is done via ke-recv
17:49.37DocScrutinizersee ke-recv-test
17:51.25DocScrutinizerob - open battery cover signal /  f - format device <arg> /  r - rename device <arg> /  (e - check device <arg>)? /  m - enable USB mass storage
18:03.03*** join/#maemo-ssu dafox (~dafox@ip51cc571d.speed.planet.nl)
18:08.34*** join/#maemo-ssu Pali (~pali@unaffiliated/pali)
18:08.58*** join/#maemo-ssu trbs (~trbs@2001:470:d2ad:1:4a5b:39ff:fe7d:1623)
18:15.58*** join/#maemo-ssu dafox__ (~dafox@ip51cc571d.speed.planet.nl)
18:17.44*** join/#maemo-ssu trbs (~trbs@2001:470:d2ad:1:4a5b:39ff:fe7d:1623)
18:31.15freemangordonDocScrutinizer,Pali: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=510001
18:31.40freemangordonseems after all we should inform hal from ke-recv :)
18:34.59Paliyes, I wrote that hal did not updating label
18:35.16Paliand seems that method Rescan sounds like good solution
18:37.43DocScrutinizerI'd guess quite a number of tools already call rescan()
18:38.33DocScrutinizerparticularly partprobe seems worth looking at it, also ke-recv
18:40.00*** join/#maemo-ssu dafox (~dafox@ip51cc571d.speed.planet.nl)
18:40.58freemangordonke-recv does not call libhal_device_rescan
18:42.36DocScrutinizerrather unfortunate
18:42.50freemangordonwe will make it :)
18:48.11DocScrutinizerIt seems to me we should include `hal-disable-polling' at beginning, and `hal-disable-polling  --enable-polling' at end of /usr/sbin/mmc-rename.sh
18:48.21DocScrutinizermight do exactly what we need
18:50.58freemangordonwill check what exactly hal-disable-polling does
18:51.42freemangordonhowever we don't need the whole hal database re-scaned, so a programatic call to libhal_device_rescan would suit better
18:55.36DocScrutinizerman hal-disable-polling - has some nice general discussion about (removable) storage devices
18:56.45DocScrutinizerprobably even the opposite approach is more correct: enable polling before unmounting, then unmount, rename, mount, disable polling
18:57.02DocScrutinizerwe don't need constant polling on non-removable devices
18:57.47freemangordonwell, might work, but my concern is that it would be a little bit less effective re battery consumtion
18:57.52DocScrutinizerof course an explicit hal-set-property from within that /usr/sbin/mmc-rename.sh might do as well
18:57.56freemangordonthan a single call to rescan
18:58.26DocScrutinizerfreemangordon: how's battery affected by a temporary action?
18:58.26freemangordonDocScrutinizer, no need this to be done through script, ke-recv already talks to hal
18:58.35freemangordonby a little bit :)
18:58.38freemangordonbut still
18:59.35freemangordonanyway, I think we have the reason and the solution, thanks
18:59.47DocScrutinizerI'd agree leaving polling enabled is something that could impact battery massively
19:00.50DocScrutinizerbtw this friggin /usr/sbin/mmc-rename.sh is (c)2007 :-S
19:01.04Palisee git log
19:01.04freemangordon:D nice
19:01.09DocScrutinizerseems like it could use a major rewrite
19:01.17Palisometimes nokia did not extended copyright
19:01.54DocScrutinizerPali: they'd have if they had changed *anything* in this fsckdup code
19:02.43DocScrutinizerwhich btw is the explanation why it is using ancient crap like L=`eval grep '\"$DEV\"' /etc/mtools.conf | awk '{print $2}' | sed 's/://'`
19:03.55DocScrutinizerShadowJK's suspicion it might date from before blkid got invented seems rather correct
19:05.02DocScrutinizerecho "$0: could not determine drive letter"
19:05.05DocScrutinizerOMG
19:09.44DocScrutinizer[2012-04-11 18:46:28] <Pali> I think that script should be changed to use dosfslabel and e2label
19:09.51DocScrutinizer^^^me agrees
19:14.21DocScrutinizerbwahaha look into /etc/mtools.conf
19:45.35*** join/#maemo-ssu javispedro (~javier@Maemo/community/contributor/javispedro)
19:49.16DocScrutinizerFSTYPE=$(echo $(blkid -c /dev/null -s TYPE $1|sed 's@.*TYPE="\(.*\)"@\1@')); case $FSTYPE in vfat) echo "do dosfslabel $2 here";; ext2|ext3) echo "do e2label $2 here";; *) echo "unknown filesystem:>$FSTYPE<";; esac;
19:50.32DocScrutinizer^^^ use that as template for a new better /usr/sbin/mmc-rename.sh
19:56.09DocScrutinizerFSTYPE=$(blkid -c /dev/null -s TYPE $1|sed 's@.*TYPE="\(.*\)" @\1@'); case $FSTYPE in vfat) echo "do dosfslabel $2 here";; ext2|ext3) echo "do e2label $2 here";; *) echo "unknown filesystem:>$FSTYPE<";; esac;
19:56.11DocScrutinizereven
19:57.18DocScrutinizermaybe even
19:57.33DocScrutinizerFSTYPE=$(blkid -c /dev/null -s TYPE $1|sed 's@.*TYPE="\(.*\)" *@\1@'); case $FSTYPE in vfat) echo "do dosfslabel $2 here";; ext2|ext3) echo "do e2label $2 here";; *) echo "unknown filesystem:>$FSTYPE<";; esac;
19:59.24DocScrutinizercheck $1 is non-empty; add proper return code after echo "unknown..."
20:03.04DocScrutinizero/
20:03.09DocScrutinizer->dinner
20:11.11*** join/#maemo-ssu Pali (~pali@unaffiliated/pali)
20:19.59*** join/#maemo-ssu s1gk1ll (~sigkill@bl16-230-200.dsl.telepac.pt)
20:31.24DocScrutinizerhttp://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/sbin/mmc-rename.sh
20:31.49*** join/#maemo-ssu nox- (noident@freebsd/developer/nox)
20:31.59DocScrutinizermight still need a bit of polishing
20:32.57freemangordonthanks, i am just going to test the Rescan() thing
20:50.23PaliDocScrutinizer, why to use blkid for detecting fstype? We can pass $3 from ke-recv
20:50.45Palialso e2label working fine for ext4 too
20:52.47freemangordonPali, there is a critical bug in ke-recv, if you try to format a prtition on external sd card through filemanager, it will always format the first partition :(
20:53.02freemangordonthe same with rename
20:53.17freemangordonthe udi passed to hendler functions is NULL
20:53.22freemangordon*handles
20:53.25freemangordondamn
20:53.28freemangordonhandler
20:53.46Paliuff, ok
20:53.54Paliat least we know where is problem
20:54.22freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/ke-recv.c#line439
20:54.54freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/ke-recv.c#line377
20:56.36freemangordonso volume_get_num and respectively get_nth_volume will always return "preffered" volume, whichever it is
20:57.22freemangordonPali,  know if there exists a helper function to ge udi from device id?
20:57.42freemangordon*get
20:58.56Palifreemangordon, I do not know now - I'm going to sleep...
20:59.18PaliI will look at it later - tomorrow
20:59.29freemangordon:)
20:59.38freemangordonok, I will fix it
21:05.08*** join/#maemo-ssu amiconn_ (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn)
21:56.06*** join/#maemo-ssu scoobertron (~tom@93.186.144.237)
22:10.00DocScrutinizerI found no simple way (yet?) to get udi for any volume
22:10.22DocScrutinizerotherwise I'd have hacked the hal-set-property call into that script as well
22:10.52DocScrutinizermy plan been along hal-device|awk
22:11.12DocScrutinizerugly
22:11.56freemangordonhal-find-by-property --key=block.device --string=/dev/mmcblk0p1
22:12.19DocScrutinizerduh :-D
22:12.38freemangordonhowever https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/commit/bee72d58a3b6ca4e66564a38fb22b0dd40dfa675
22:12.45freemangordon:)
22:13.20freemangordonno more mount/unmount ;)
22:13.35DocScrutinizer??
22:13.54freemangordonno more mount/unmount on rename
22:14.22freemangordoneverything looks fine with that patch
22:16.04freemangordontomorrow i will integrate your mmc-rename.sh but as Pali wrote, with fstype as a parameter
22:17.03freemangordonfor today, thats all folks :D
22:17.56DocScrutinizero/
22:25.22DocScrutinizer<PROTECTED>
22:25.57DocScrutinizer#!/bin/sh\n mount -t vfat -o $3,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133,rodir "$1" "$2" > /dev/null  W*T*F?!
22:26.55DocScrutinizeraaah I gather there's been a better alternative for this abomination on tmo already
22:30.28DocScrutinizerBWAHAHAHA!
22:30.31DocScrutinizerMar 15 20:47:31 IroN900 BME: start
22:30.32DocScrutinizerMar 15 20:47:31 IroN900 init: Unable to execute "/usr/sbin/NotMyNokia.sh" for notmynokia: No such file or directory
22:30.34DocScrutinizerMar 15 20:47:31 IroN900 init: notmynokia main process (746) terminated with status 255
22:31.30DocScrutinizerwtf hapened to notmynokia?
22:34.15*** join/#maemo-ssu scoobertron (~tom@93.186.144.237)
23:14.40merlin1991DocScrutinizer: mmc-mount looks a lot different in current cssu
23:14.49merlin1991(it takes a fs type argument now
23:15.03DocScrutinizerhope so ;-D
23:16.14DocScrutinizerI'd love to move to a simple "#!/bin/sah\n/sbin/mount $1"
23:16.50DocScrutinizerwhich obviously implies there's a proper fstab, which in turn means we don'T want this file to get crappy autogenerated on boottime
23:24.22merlin1991hm why do you need a proper fstab for thatß
23:24.24merlin1991*?*
23:26.06DocScrutinizerfor a >> mount $foo <<?
23:26.12merlin1991yep
23:26.29DocScrutinizergtry it for sth that's not in your fstab
23:26.35merlin1991works jsut fine :D
23:26.39DocScrutinizernope
23:26.42merlin1991yes
23:26.45DocScrutinizerwhat is $foo?
23:26.56merlin1991/dev/sdc2
23:27.00merlin1991which is not in fstab
23:27.03merlin1991and actually ntfs
23:27.22merlin1991hm silly me
23:27.22DocScrutinizerif $fo is "-o bla,blub -t xy /dev/x /mnt/y" then yes
23:27.40merlin1991hm it's moutn /dev/sdc2 /somepath
23:27.54DocScrutinizerthis *might* work
23:27.58merlin1991though we cannot redue mmc-mount to a simple fstab depending mount
23:28.13DocScrutinizerprolly not
23:28.14merlin1991since it is used for sd mounting aswell
23:28.19merlin1991(afaik)
23:29.06DocScrutinizerwell, a proper entry in fstab should deal with up to 8 partitons on uSD as well
23:30.13merlin1991and how are you going to handle all the different filesystems in fstab?
23:30.27DocScrutinizer-t auto
23:30.54merlin1991wonders in how many cases that would fail miserably with the stock kernel
23:30.59DocScrutinizerokok, maybe that's not exactly what we want
23:31.18DocScrutinizeras we maybe want noatime and whatnot else
23:38.41merlin1991http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316AzLYfAzw <-- interesting way to advertise a tv channel
23:38.53merlin1991completely OT ofc :D
23:52.24*** join/#maemo-ssu Milhouse (~irc_milho@Maemo/community/contributor/Milhouse)

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.