| 00:00.04 | DocScrutinizer | hah, I've not left home since 5 days |
| 00:01.07 | DocScrutinizer | friggin flu paralysing me |
| 00:07.49 | DocScrutinizer | I really wonder how they implemented the privacy part (clean out sensitive data from the coredump) |
| 00:08.45 | DocScrutinizer | I'd rather not see a coredump of modest getting uploaded to $RANDOM without me closely scrutinizing it beforehand |
| 00:09.25 | DocScrutinizer | neither of $IRC-UA, nor notes app, nor probably *anything* |
| 00:10.01 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: scrutinizing everything :D |
| 00:10.21 | DocScrutinizer | nah, py definition only docs |
| 00:10.28 | DocScrutinizer | by* |
| 00:11.57 | DocScrutinizer | wonders if this crashreporter already qualifies for tag "malware" |
| 00:12.29 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: user willingly installs it :D |
| 00:12.41 | DocScrutinizer | hmm yeah |
| 00:12.58 | DocScrutinizer | as soon as we ship it with CSSU though... ;-P |
| 00:13.19 | merlin1991 | imo if I set this up I'm not gonna ship it with cssu |
| 00:13.24 | ShadowJK | There's no cleaning, and this is the reason they don't give out the crashdumps, apparently. |
| 00:13.42 | DocScrutinizer | BWAHAHA |
| 00:13.43 | merlin1991 | but tell people who bugreport that if they want they can install it and point it to the "cssu" server |
| 00:13.57 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: thought as much |
| 00:14.04 | merlin1991 | making clear that it possibly violates their privacy |
| 00:14.30 | DocScrutinizer | good luck with that |
| 00:14.31 | merlin1991 | shipping by default is a big nono |
| 00:14.43 | merlin1991 | well some people might think of it as usefull |
| 00:14.49 | DocScrutinizer | so much was obvious :-) |
| 00:14.55 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer, that's why it gives you this huge disclaimer every crashdump you upload |
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| 00:15.23 | merlin1991 | though I guess technically I would need to register a company and an whatever it was called id here in austria to be able to collect user data |
| 00:15.32 | merlin1991 | sometimes hates the laws |
| 00:16.17 | DocScrutinizer | I consider the whole thing a rather huge timesink for nothing |
| 00:17.11 | ShadowJK | crashdumps are nice for debugging |
| 00:17.23 | merlin1991 | though I guess in general it's probably easier to just have people mail specific crashdumps |
| 00:17.50 | DocScrutinizer | those users who care will as well attach a coredump to a proper ticket. The others won't even bother to install this crashreporter |
| 00:18.34 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: exactly my thought |
| 00:20.20 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: thanks for digging up all the history :-) |
| 00:22.28 | DocScrutinizer | is just amused about the fact https://stage.maemo.org/nitro/ still is up, and has a nice auth front |
| 00:22.57 | DocScrutinizer | even stage.maemo.org sounds ancient |
| 00:23.10 | merlin1991 | probably spinning in circles not able to even write logs to the hdd |
| 00:23.20 | merlin1991 | because everything is filled :) |
| 00:23.21 | DocScrutinizer | yep XP |
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| 15:57.27 | merlin1991 | Pali: we have a really bad case of ke-recv failing |
| 15:57.50 | merlin1991 | I'll give you the details when I find the time to sort them out of my log |
| 15:58.12 | merlin1991 | basicly I had a user who fixed his ke-recv startup script and still didn't get his MyDocs back |
| 15:59.22 | Lava_Croft | :< |
| 16:01.48 | merlin1991 | but the pr1.3 ke-recv works for him |
| 16:02.06 | merlin1991 | (ke-recv 3.19-13+0m5) |
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| 16:03.36 | Raimu | :( |
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| 16:21.13 | vi__ | yo |
| 16:21.24 | vi__ | I think I may have found a bug |
| 16:21.38 | vi__ | in the last 3.1 update. |
| 16:22.09 | vi__ | pictures opened from the file manager now open in the web browser |
| 16:23.24 | vi__ | as oppose to maemo-photo |
| 16:24.52 | vi__ | does anyone even care? |
| 16:37.43 | Raimu | vi, doesn't happen for me. |
| 16:37.58 | Raimu | Just tested. |
| 16:55.54 | Lava_Croft | same here, doesnt happen |
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| 18:01.31 | amiconn | DocScrutinizer: I'm not sure what the problem re ke-recv is. All I can say is that I do have /etc/init.d/ke-recv on my N900. It is dated 2009-08-28 |
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| 18:03.04 | Lava_Croft | judging from the date, one would say that is the one that came with the n900 ootb |
| 18:03.29 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
| 18:03.32 | DocScrutinizer | same here |
| 18:20.33 | freemangordon | merlin1991, ping |
| 18:20.43 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong |
| 18:21.05 | freemangordon | merlin1991, could you add osso-gnome-vfs2 in CSSU repo? |
| 18:21.29 | merlin1991 | you mean on gitorious? |
| 18:21.47 | freemangordon | yeah :D |
| 18:22.01 | freemangordon | I suspect this is the original |
| 18:22.01 | freemangordon | https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/osso-gnome-vfs2 |
| 18:22.42 | freemangordon | yup, that is it |
| 18:24.37 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-gnome-vfs2 |
| 18:25.00 | merlin1991 | you can push anything to its master (I guess you'll want the fremantle branch from the original repo) |
| 18:25.29 | freemangordon | actually I was going to ask you how to deal with that, i mean master/fremantle |
| 18:25.54 | freemangordon | but is seems i will checkout fremantle branch and will push it in CSSU |
| 18:25.56 | freemangordon | agree? |
| 18:25.56 | merlin1991 | well if fremantle is what is in maemo5 then push fremantle from the original repo as master |
| 18:26.06 | freemangordon | ok |
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| 22:45.26 | merlin1991 | arcean: ping |
| 22:45.57 | arcean | merlin1991: pong |
| 22:46.25 | merlin1991 | do you knwo what the edit_mode_portrait gconf key does in hildon-desktop? |
| 22:47.11 | arcean | hmm, i'm not sure if it's not related to application list/launcher |
| 22:50.44 | arcean | merlin1991: edit_mode_portrait is set when user enters desktop edit in portrait mode |
| 22:51.38 | merlin1991 | hm I wonder why it's even neccesary |
| 22:52.51 | merlin1991 | hm the only other place where I find it is in hildon-home in hd-backgrounds.c |
| 22:53.05 | merlin1991 | I guess it's to tell h-h that user edits in portrait and not in landscape :) |
| 22:58.17 | arcean | yes |
| 22:58.40 | arcean | hmm, I'll try to change it tomorrow |
| 22:59.09 | arcean | so we will have one gconf key less :) |
| 22:59.14 | freemangordon | merlin1991, (and others) http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/o/osso-gnome-vfs2/ |
| 22:59.53 | merlin1991 | and what's it got? |
| 23:00.29 | freemangordon | now sdcard partitions have correct labels |
| 23:00.41 | merlin1991 | because on gitorious there still is only the stock maemo code ,) |
| 23:00.46 | merlin1991 | I think you're a git push short |
| 23:00.52 | freemangordon | wait a minute :D |
| 23:02.22 | freemangordon | merlin1991, ready |
| 23:02.29 | freemangordon | commits pushed |
| 23:03.00 | merlin1991 | btw could you look into something for me? |
| 23:03.12 | freemangordon | which one? |
| 23:03.23 | merlin1991 | runing blkid as root shows you some info about all partitions in the system |
| 23:03.47 | merlin1991 | but when I reformatted my sd card to only have one partition I still have ghost entries in the output from blkid |
| 23:03.51 | merlin1991 | even after a reboot |
| 23:04.15 | freemangordon | you want me to reformat my sdcard? |
| 23:04.38 | merlin1991 | well simply adding a partition in the padding on the end |
| 23:04.47 | merlin1991 | running blkid and removing it again |
| 23:04.54 | merlin1991 | should be sufficient to reproduce :) |
| 23:05.12 | merlin1991 | you'll have the partition that is long gone in the list even if you reboot your n900 |
| 23:05.45 | merlin1991 | and imo that is a bug :D |
| 23:06.23 | freemangordon | hmm, won't work, my sdcard has 3 partitions and there is no free space (afaik). but I can try on my development device |
| 23:06.42 | merlin1991 | btw in case you wonder, blkid is part of e2fsprogs |
| 23:06.50 | freemangordon | blkid reads partition table, ain't? |
| 23:07.01 | merlin1991 | nfc |
| 23:07.41 | freemangordon | hmm, very strange, that is the last line here - /dev/ramzswap0: TYPE="swap" |
| 23:07.55 | freemangordon | so I could just rmmod ramzswap |
| 23:09.47 | freemangordon | merlin1991, yep, there is a bug, blkid still reports /dev/ramzswap0 az swap partition, even after there is NO /dev/ramzswap0 :D |
| 23:09.59 | freemangordon | s/az/as/ |
| 23:10.05 | merlin1991 | and if you reboot it will still report it :D |
| 23:10.14 | freemangordon | nice |
| 23:10.46 | freemangordon | dooes your card have several partitions? |
| 23:10.59 | merlin1991 | I went from 3 to 1 partition |
| 23:11.08 | merlin1991 | but it still remembers partition 2 and 3 |
| 23:11.27 | freemangordon | damn, you don't classify as a guine pig then :( |
| 23:11.35 | freemangordon | *guinea |
| 23:11.41 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I can play guinea pig no problem |
| 23:11.50 | merlin1991 | that sd card holds no valuable information :D |
| 23:11.50 | freemangordon | for the new gnome-vfs |
| 23:12.10 | freemangordon | ooh, another bug, ke-recv cannot rename ext3 partitions |
| 23:12.34 | freemangordon | and if you rename fat partition, you need to reboot so new name to appear in filemanager |
| 23:12.40 | freemangordon | actually 2 bugs |
| 23:13.59 | freemangordon | merlin1991, then install new gnome-vfs from the repo , re-partition your sd-card to have 2 partitions and play a bit with ossofilemanager |
| 23:14.08 | freemangordon | 1st partition vfat |
| 23:14.36 | freemangordon | 2nd - initially no fstype, after that swap, and after that ext3 |
| 23:15.13 | freemangordon | I am curious if my changes would deal with that as intended |
| 23:15.21 | merlin1991 | damn now I'll have to play with fsckd fdisk |
| 23:15.32 | freemangordon | fdisk? |
| 23:15.35 | freemangordon | os sfdisk |
| 23:15.39 | freemangordon | *or |
| 23:16.33 | freemangordon | aah, and initially do not set labels on partitions |
| 23:16.40 | freemangordon | then set a label on ext3 |
| 23:16.45 | freemangordon | and then on vfat |
| 23:17.35 | merlin1991 | hm nfc how to set lables actually :D |
| 23:17.36 | freemangordon | is going to have something for dinner, will be back in a couple of minutes |
| 23:17.45 | merlin1991 | I've been using gui for paritioning all the time xD |
| 23:17.59 | freemangordon | connect via usb and use your pc |
| 23:18.09 | merlin1991 | runing windows currently :/ |
| 23:18.33 | freemangordon | you can use e2fstune to set up a label for ext3 |
| 23:19.05 | freemangordon | and n900 itself for vfat, but that will need a reboot (see the bugs above) |
| 23:19.32 | freemangordon | I meant the rename function in filemanager |