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| 18:30.38 | freemangordon | merlin1991, meeting today? |
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| 19:11.05 | merlin1991 | 20 utc |
| 19:11.16 | merlin1991 | so in about 50 mins |
| 19:11.51 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: ^^ |
| 19:14.13 | freemangordon | aah, damn, summer time here :( |
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| 20:02.38 | merlin1991 | Pali, freemangordon, arcean, DocScrutinizer, MohammadAG ping |
| 20:02.44 | Pali | pong |
| 20:02.59 | arcean | pong |
| 20:03.32 | DocScrutinizer | dang |
| 20:05.13 | freemangordon | yep |
| 20:05.29 | merlin1991 | okay mag seems to be afk (I pmed him some time ago) |
| 20:06.07 | merlin1991 | agenda for today would be: cssu versioning scheme, testing->stable?, rotation |
| 20:06.10 | merlin1991 | anything to add? |
| 20:06.29 | merlin1991 | ah yeah + garage tasks |
| 20:06.55 | freemangordon | merlin1991, next update? |
| 20:07.05 | merlin1991 | that's part of the last one :) |
| 20:07.13 | freemangordon | ok |
| 20:07.27 | Pali | what is state of open media player and open world clock? |
| 20:08.15 | freemangordon | Pali, OMP is definitly not ready AFAIK, I have it onstalled and it is still crashing every now and then |
| 20:08.16 | Pali | and also sms broadcast widget? |
| 20:08.38 | Pali | freemangordon, I'm using OMP for 2 weeks and no crash |
| 20:08.51 | freemangordon | and even if adeclock is ready we are missing ade :) |
| 20:08.53 | merlin1991 | sms broadcast widget is scheduled for next update |
| 20:09.05 | freemangordon | Pali, want the coredumps? |
| 20:09.06 | merlin1991 | but anything else to add to the agenda? |
| 20:09.41 | Pali | freemangordon, not old coredumps |
| 20:09.51 | Pali | I saw in git more changes in code |
| 20:09.52 | merlin1991 | another item for the agenda, pdf-reader translation |
| 20:10.00 | Pali | so maybe some problems was fixed |
| 20:10.25 | Pali | but if you get crashes with last extras-devel version, send me it |
| 20:10.35 | merlin1991 | so, version scheme, testing->stable, garage (next update), pdfreader, rotation anything to add? |
| 20:10.44 | Pali | merlin1991, + tvout translations |
| 20:10.53 | freemangordon | merlin1991, why is pdf translations not in CSSU repo, i upload it a week or so ago? |
| 20:11.08 | arcean | tvout translations? |
| 20:11.26 | freemangordon | arcean, tvout applet |
| 20:11.43 | DocScrutinizer | no pkgs like clock or OMP into MP |
| 20:11.48 | arcean | yeah, not translated |
| 20:11.48 | freemangordon | merlin1991, what about "devel-repo-to-be"? |
| 20:11.56 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: good point |
| 20:11.57 | DocScrutinizer | must all become optional, as nothing depends on it |
| 20:12.50 | merlin1991 | agenda for today: version scheme, testing->stable, repo to be, garage (next update), translations, rotation, omp / clock |
| 20:12.56 | merlin1991 | let's start at the beginning |
| 20:13.03 | freemangordon | ..which reminds me of "community-kernel" |
| 20:13.21 | DocScrutinizer | keep your fingers off my kernel! |
| 20:13.24 | freemangordon | s/me of/me for/ |
| 20:13.29 | merlin1991 | if you look at http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/control |
| 20:13.43 | merlin1991 | you'll notice that we have all kinds of cssu / mwhatever suffixed in our packages |
| 20:14.13 | Pali | merlin1991, + updating tvout packages |
| 20:14.30 | Pali | from upstream |
| 20:14.35 | merlin1991 | ah okay |
| 20:14.40 | merlin1991 | basically we have 2 types of packages in cssu |
| 20:14.52 | merlin1991 | those where we are upstream (like h-d) and those where we aren't |
| 20:15.03 | DocScrutinizer | I'd definitely be the opposite of amused when I had to learn next CSSU update tries to mess with my kernel |
| 20:15.22 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, we are discussing versioning scheme |
| 20:15.24 | DocScrutinizer | and I'm not the only one feeling like that |
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| 20:16.07 | merlin1991 | currently most maemo packages have a version of realupstream+0m5 |
| 20:16.45 | merlin1991 | I would suggest that for future packages we simply add a -cssu0 at the end |
| 20:16.58 | freemangordon | merlin1991, what those xxx-0maemo1+0m5 is supposed to mean |
| 20:17.06 | arcean | -cssu0 or +cssu0 ? |
| 20:17.19 | freemangordon | and what is the difference :) |
| 20:17.34 | Pali | I think '-' char is traditional debian style |
| 20:17.45 | freemangordon | ok |
| 20:17.52 | merlin1991 | yeas |
| 20:17.53 | arcean | we are using '+' currently |
| 20:18.08 | merlin1991 | traditionally you have upstream-debianrevision |
| 20:18.18 | merlin1991 | from nokia we get upstream+0m5 |
| 20:18.46 | Pali | but upstream you also mean something-1maemo1 |
| 20:18.48 | DocScrutinizer | hybris ;-P |
| 20:18.48 | merlin1991 | so upstream+0m5-cssurevision would make sense in the traditional maemo way |
| 20:19.02 | merlin1991 | s/meamo/debian/ |
| 20:19.36 | DocScrutinizer | will all that simplify anything? |
| 20:19.36 | arcean | so we should change naming scheme for some packages? |
| 20:19.46 | arcean | like libqt4-core |
| 20:20.02 | arcean | actually it's 1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu6 |
| 20:20.21 | DocScrutinizer | boggles |
| 20:20.29 | merlin1991 | changing that is going to get hard |
| 20:20.40 | merlin1991 | - is considered inferior to + by dpkg |
| 20:21.15 | DocScrutinizer | use ² then ;-) |
| 20:21.45 | freemangordon | so no problem replacing "+cssu6" with "-cssu6" |
| 20:21.55 | merlin1991 | so even a 1:4.7.4~git20110505-cssu7 would be considered a downgrade compared to 1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu6 |
| 20:21.59 | DocScrutinizer | or some nice ANSI esc sequence ;-P |
| 20:22.11 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 20:22.38 | merlin1991 | tbh I wouldn't bother with redoing the naming scheme of existing packages, but only fix the guidline of new packages to come |
| 20:22.48 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 20:22.50 | merlin1991 | (like pdf-reader translations) |
| 20:22.58 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: +++ |
| 20:23.40 | freemangordon | so, you want the versioning scheme to be -cssuX, where X is next CSSU version? |
| 20:23.41 | DocScrutinizer | again, what does it simplify, this weird naming scheme? |
| 20:23.56 | merlin1991 | so bascially the question is, what kind of suffix do we want to add in case of packages where we are not upstream? |
| 20:24.00 | DocScrutinizer | I'm lazy on typing ;-) |
| 20:24.16 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: one should be able to see from the version what it is |
| 20:24.30 | DocScrutinizer | shrugs |
| 20:24.40 | merlin1991 | so 10+0m5-cssu1 would be upstreamrelease 10, +nokia changes + cssurevision 2 |
| 20:25.06 | DocScrutinizer | oh sure, compared to 11-cssu3 |
| 20:25.13 | merlin1991 | yes |
| 20:25.25 | DocScrutinizer | which obviously was happy without maemo patches |
| 20:25.31 | merlin1991 | exactly |
| 20:25.35 | DocScrutinizer | but wait.... |
| 20:25.46 | DocScrutinizer | WHEN will this EVER happen |
| 20:25.59 | DocScrutinizer | and - who cares? |
| 20:26.14 | merlin1991 | if we ever run into the point where we ugrade a library to a new upstream release |
| 20:26.19 | merlin1991 | like it happneed with qt |
| 20:26.43 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, what is the problem to have established versioning scheme, even if NOONE ever care |
| 20:26.44 | merlin1991 | and who cares, the maintainer, because he has to understand the mess :D |
| 20:26.54 | DocScrutinizer | I'm lazy on typing ;-) |
| 20:27.13 | DocScrutinizer | and I get a headache from those version mess |
| 20:27.20 | DocScrutinizer | esp when git comes in |
| 20:27.33 | freemangordon | so, lets agree on that if trere are no objections and move on |
| 20:28.13 | merlin1991 | yeah any objections to upstream+0m5-cssurev? (0m5 only if the source is based on a nokia maemo source) |
| 20:28.20 | DocScrutinizer | shrugs and wanders off to get some washing done. Need clothes eventually |
| 20:28.41 | arcean | merlin1991: it's ok |
| 20:28.42 | DocScrutinizer | doesn't mean I'm not lurking |
| 20:28.47 | freemangordon | and we start numbering from -cssu0 |
| 20:28.54 | freemangordon | ? |
| 20:28.56 | merlin1991 | yes |
| 20:29.07 | freemangordon | agree |
| 20:29.14 | arcean | in packages like hildon-home we are still bumpinig only -ccsuX ? |
| 20:29.16 | Pali | merlin1991, I do not care about versioning, so if I make some changes in gitorious, can you or other change version to probler string? |
| 20:29.29 | Pali | *proper |
| 20:29.53 | merlin1991 | sure just ping me whenever you updated a package that it is ready for a version and I'll bump the version properly |
| 20:30.04 | freemangordon | Pali, updating debian/changelog that is :) |
| 20:30.29 | merlin1991 | arcean: in hildon home we have 0.3.71-9 currently |
| 20:30.36 | merlin1991 | and we consider ourselvels upstream |
| 20:30.48 | freemangordon | as we are :D |
| 20:30.50 | merlin1991 | so bump -x for small changes and the .71 for big ones |
| 20:30.55 | Pali | I mean that I can update debian/changelog, but I forget our version strings scheme :D |
| 20:31.01 | arcean | merlin1991: ah, ok :) |
| 20:31.12 | freemangordon | Pali, there will be a memo on garage |
| 20:31.19 | Pali | ok |
| 20:31.22 | merlin1991 | I'll put it into the wiki aswell |
| 20:31.30 | freemangordon | great |
| 20:32.02 | merlin1991 | I guess we all agree, so whatabout packages in -testing that could go to stable |
| 20:32.10 | DocScrutinizer | suffered a versioning nightmare during last 3 workdays, when 2 chips used same branch, but the updates wre not in sync |
| 20:32.54 | merlin1991 | I think h-* + libclutter could go into stable, and freetype aswell |
| 20:33.07 | freemangordon | freetype? is it in testing? |
| 20:33.11 | merlin1991 | yes |
| 20:33.25 | DocScrutinizer | 123CNH1503356@CNH1503356-R3K006 |
| 20:33.27 | merlin1991 | libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.9-2osso2+0cssu1) is in the current -testing |
| 20:33.45 | merlin1991 | which was 1 segfault fixed and 1 cve |
| 20:33.48 | freemangordon | ok |
| 20:34.52 | merlin1991 | whatabout maemo-tvout-control, move current state into -stable, or push the upstream changes into -testing first and see what happens? |
| 20:35.04 | freemangordon | both? |
| 20:35.16 | Pali | tvout should go to stable |
| 20:35.23 | Pali | current version |
| 20:35.26 | merlin1991 | also any objections to the readyness of the current state of hildon-* packages? |
| 20:35.53 | arcean | do we have translations for tvout-control ? |
| 20:36.01 | freemangordon | well, I did some minor change to h-d, but it is not critical anyway |
| 20:36.03 | Pali | not yet |
| 20:36.24 | DocScrutinizer | osso2+0?? WTF? |
| 20:36.33 | merlin1991 | blame nokia :D |
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| 20:36.42 | freemangordon | hmm, do we have translation strings missing for tvout? |
| 20:36.42 | merlin1991 | for -stable I'd like to have translations first |
| 20:36.53 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 20:37.06 | Pali | tvout does not using gettext translations for new strings |
| 20:37.30 | freemangordon | it has hardcoded strings or what? |
| 20:37.35 | Pali | new strings are hardcoded in english into code |
| 20:37.51 | Pali | I think it should go to stable |
| 20:38.02 | freemangordon | without translations? |
| 20:38.12 | Pali | how long takes to transtale these new strings to other languages? |
| 20:38.27 | Pali | it has english texts |
| 20:38.28 | merlin1991 | imo having something in english only is a nogo for -stable |
| 20:38.33 | Pali | it is enought |
| 20:38.42 | freemangordon | merlin1991, agree |
| 20:38.47 | merlin1991 | well it's a regression over stock package |
| 20:38.58 | merlin1991 | and -stable claims to only be better than stock |
| 20:39.00 | freemangordon | Pali, we should not break user experience in such a way |
| 20:39.04 | merlin1991 | and also be rock solid :D |
| 20:39.05 | Pali | ok |
| 20:39.14 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 20:39.39 | Pali | so we need people which transtale new strings to all nokia langs :D |
| 20:39.43 | DocScrutinizer | you all get a star in my book, and no homework today :-D |
| 20:39.44 | freemangordon | do we have l10n packages for tvout or it should be RE? |
| 20:39.54 | Pali | it needs RE |
| 20:40.13 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: practically it doesn't need re but rahter newly done from the source |
| 20:40.23 | freemangordon | NP, merlin1991 has the tool written in his notes :P |
| 20:40.30 | freemangordon | merlin1991, why is that? |
| 20:40.40 | merlin1991 | well most strings are new |
| 20:40.42 | freemangordon | actually it needs the same what calculator does |
| 20:40.45 | merlin1991 | except for 2 or 3 :D |
| 20:40.59 | freemangordon | i.e. gettext usage |
| 20:41.26 | freemangordon | Pali, both sources are yours, would you do it? |
| 20:41.48 | freemangordon | and maybe it is a good idea to move Qt gettext to a library |
| 20:42.08 | merlin1991 | I'll put a task on garage for -tvout translations and will re the original ones, pali can you do the code side inside the applet? |
| 20:42.11 | Pali | freemangordon, source of what? |
| 20:42.22 | freemangordon | calculato and tvout |
| 20:42.37 | Pali | calculator ui is my |
| 20:42.48 | Pali | tvout control panel and tvout status menu too |
| 20:42.51 | freemangordon | there is a code fragment in calculator which encapsulates gettext functionality to be used in Qt |
| 20:43.06 | Pali | but tvout desktop widget and tvout library is from upstream project |
| 20:43.26 | freemangordon | well, we are talking for UIs |
| 20:43.32 | Pali | freemangordon, yes I created small functions to use gettext in qt |
| 20:43.59 | freemangordon | yes, I know, the question was whether it is not better to move that code in a .so |
| 20:44.00 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-calculator/blobs/master/osso-intl.h |
| 20:44.08 | Pali | no |
| 20:44.12 | Pali | it is inlined functions |
| 20:44.18 | Pali | which only call gettext |
| 20:44.22 | MohammadAG | I'd like to add that OMP is not ready till I check something |
| 20:44.41 | MohammadAG | I forgot what it was, but I'll remember it once I pick up OMP on the N900 again |
| 20:44.56 | MohammadAG | also, some segfault checks need to be placed |
| 20:45.00 | freemangordon | MohammadAG, if you ask me it is not ready even after you've checked the thing :D |
| 20:45.14 | MohammadAG | freemangordon, the thing's probably still there :p |
| 20:45.25 | MohammadAG | so even if I check it, it won't be ready :p |
| 20:45.34 | merlin1991 | so Pali when I got the translationd side of the applet done, can you add it to the code? |
| 20:45.56 | Pali | yes |
| 20:46.15 | merlin1991 | okay will do the task and assing it |
| 20:46.16 | Pali | I can add gettext into tvout code |
| 20:46.29 | Pali | I already have in code prepaired /* TODO */ |
| 20:46.30 | Pali | :D |
| 20:47.10 | merlin1991 | perfect next thing is repo-to be |
| 20:47.17 | merlin1991 | for all who have no idea what this is |
| 20:47.34 | freemangordon | merlin1991, just a second |
| 20:47.42 | merlin1991 | what's left? |
| 20:47.49 | MohammadAG | sorry I'm later, but about the versioning scheme |
| 20:48.01 | freemangordon | do you have diff between -testing and -stable, it is easy to miss something |
| 20:48.03 | MohammadAG | we're using +0cssu$versionIncrementsInCSSU |
| 20:48.21 | MohammadAG | all other packages with different versions were before the bug was closed |
| 20:48.24 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: you can diff it easily when you go over the wiki changelogs |
| 20:48.30 | MohammadAG | if they still are like that, then we never changed them |
| 20:49.05 | freemangordon | merlin1991, ok, sure, I was just asking do you have it :) |
| 20:49.14 | merlin1991 | yeah I've got it |
| 20:49.56 | freemangordon | MohammadAG, are you trying to tell that we should use +cssuX instead of -cssuX? |
| 20:51.28 | merlin1991 | oh yeah, MohammadAG is right |
| 20:51.33 | merlin1991 | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11830 |
| 20:51.35 | povbot | Bug 11830: Consistent updating of version information |
| 20:52.10 | freemangordon | merlin1991, MohammadAG, I think that you being the maintainers should agree on versioning scheme and put the result on garage and in wiki |
| 20:52.11 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: why +0cssu0 and not +cssu0 though? |
| 20:53.15 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: anything else before repo-to-be? |
| 20:53.23 | freemangordon | no |
| 20:53.28 | freemangordon | :) |
| 20:53.57 | merlin1991 | okay repo-to-be is a repo I've set up on my server which tracks -testing and also has a directory on the server which is used for importing |
| 20:54.26 | merlin1991 | so in praxis this would allow us to have a -devel repo we could use to test things between -testing versions |
| 20:55.07 | merlin1991 | it doesn't really make a differnece from dsitributing .debs but could ease that |
| 20:55.49 | MohammadAG | <merlin1991> MohammadAG: why +0cssu0 and not +cssu0 though? |
| 20:56.02 | MohammadAG | followed a weird versioning scheme by Nokia |
| 20:56.04 | MohammadAG | +0m5 |
| 20:56.28 | merlin1991 | my idea was to create a user for each of us on the server, so everyone could upload into that repo |
| 20:56.41 | MohammadAG | handle conflicts well |
| 20:57.09 | MohammadAG | maemo.org's cssu repo corrupts the dpkg "status" file if two same versions are uploaded |
| 20:57.52 | merlin1991 | the used software in this case ignores every import for the same version if it already exists |
| 20:58.12 | merlin1991 | so in that case either bump the version or ping me to purge the old package (not preferred) |
| 20:58.42 | merlin1991 | any thoughts on the whole idea? |
| 20:58.50 | freemangordon | merlin1991, I don't think anyone is against having -devel repo, so it is up to you to set it up :p |
| 21:00.13 | freemangordon | anyone? |
| 21:00.17 | merlin1991 | okay, anybody who wants to participate in bricking n900s of random users of this repo please send me your pubkey in whichever way you prefer :D |
| 21:00.53 | merlin1991 | the idea is to make .x bumps of versions in that -devel repo and when things are considered stable enough for -testing bump the version by a real number |
| 21:01.14 | merlin1991 | or rather let mag do that bump and the repo will import from maemo.org |
| 21:01.27 | freemangordon | merlin1991, you should put some short instructions somewhere once the repo is up, ok? |
| 21:01.51 | merlin1991 | sure will do, only need pubkeys to create the users :) |
| 21:01.52 | freemangordon | I mean - directory names, etc |
| 21:02.26 | freemangordon | you have mine, so bring the thing up :D |
| 21:03.06 | merlin1991 | will do that |
| 21:03.18 | merlin1991 | okay about translations |
| 21:03.34 | freemangordon | garage (next update)? |
| 21:03.38 | Pali | my keys are here: https://launchpad.net/~pali |
| 21:03.41 | merlin1991 | aferwards |
| 21:03.44 | freemangordon | was the next in agenda |
| 21:03.46 | freemangordon | ok |
| 21:03.56 | merlin1991 | it's dependand the other way around :D |
| 21:04.02 | freemangordon | ok, ok |
| 21:04.04 | freemangordon | :) |
| 21:04.27 | freemangordon | what about translations? |
| 21:04.36 | merlin1991 | we have that famous mcesinglepagecontinous button in the pdf-reader |
| 21:04.55 | freemangordon | pdf l10n is RE and uploaded on your sever |
| 21:05.02 | freemangordon | *server |
| 21:05.05 | merlin1991 | thanks to freemangordon we have the sources to the translations now (which I have to upload to gitorious :$) |
| 21:05.28 | merlin1991 | but we need to decide on an english translation as a starting point for all other langauges |
| 21:05.40 | merlin1991 | actually any IDEA how to call that frigging checkbox? |
| 21:05.41 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 21:05.57 | freemangordon | let me check in acrobat reader |
| 21:06.09 | Pali | single page continous |
| 21:06.17 | merlin1991 | the functionality it enables is that one can scroll on at the end of one page and it will autoload the next one |
| 21:06.27 | freemangordon | Pali, too long |
| 21:06.36 | merlin1991 | also weird for a checkbox |
| 21:06.43 | merlin1991 | we have to label what it means when it's checked |
| 21:07.04 | arcean | IIRC in Maemo 4 it's called as Pali said, "single page continous" |
| 21:07.25 | merlin1991 | we can't fit that into the button size :/ |
| 21:07.38 | merlin1991 | unless we make the font smaller for the button |
| 21:07.52 | freemangordon | it is "Page Layout"->"Continious" in acrobat reader |
| 21:08.18 | merlin1991 | hm "Continous scroll" ? |
| 21:08.18 | freemangordon | "continious pages"? |
| 21:08.41 | arcean | Continious view? |
| 21:08.58 | freemangordon | hmm the correct is continuous :D |
| 21:09.20 | merlin1991 | I think continous scroll makes most sense since it affects scroll behavious |
| 21:09.28 | merlin1991 | *behaviour* |
| 21:10.02 | freemangordon | but it is not clear what this type of scroll applies to |
| 21:10.04 | merlin1991 | damn but that would actually be contionous scrolling which is too long again |
| 21:11.02 | merlin1991 | taking into account the type of scroll I guess arceans suggestion is the best? |
| 21:11.40 | freemangordon | successive pages? |
| 21:11.52 | Pali | arcean, yes |
| 21:11.52 | Pali | I think same name is/was in acroread |
| 21:12.14 | freemangordon | continuous view? |
| 21:12.24 | merlin1991 | +1 |
| 21:12.45 | freemangordon | which one? |
| 21:12.49 | DocScrutinizer | ok, have to leave now. Would you please not forget about location-widget/libsms, and the flavour stuff in product version |
| 21:12.53 | merlin1991 | the last one mentioned ofc :D |
| 21:13.03 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: flavour stuff is fixed already |
| 21:13.07 | DocScrutinizer | fine |
| 21:13.13 | merlin1991 | newest testing came with non meddling aboutcssu :) |
| 21:13.54 | freemangordon | Pali, arcean, what do you think about "continuous view?" |
| 21:13.59 | DocScrutinizer | I'll check that in a minute ;-D |
| 21:14.03 | DocScrutinizer | o/ |
| 21:14.22 | arcean | freemangordon: makes sense :) |
| 21:14.23 | freemangordon | and that will be easily translatable to other languages |
| 21:14.53 | merlin1991 | btw do english menu entries start with an uppercase letter? |
| 21:15.01 | merlin1991 | (mine in german so I don't know) |
| 21:15.04 | freemangordon | at least in Bulgarian it is again two words only :D |
| 21:15.34 | freemangordon | Well, at least Open starts with capital letter |
| 21:16.16 | freemangordon | but it is "Save as" |
| 21:16.16 | Pali | yes start with capital letter |
| 21:16.30 | merlin1991 | okay |
| 21:16.48 | freemangordon | which is strange, AIUI it should be "Save As" |
| 21:17.41 | Pali | nokia paid people for proper translations :D |
| 21:17.50 | Pali | so it must be correct :D |
| 21:18.01 | freemangordon | yeah, sure :D |
| 21:18.26 | merlin1991 | okay I guess we'll have "Continous view" then? |
| 21:18.43 | freemangordon | "Continous View" :p |
| 21:18.54 | freemangordon | "Continuous View" :p |
| 21:19.04 | merlin1991 | checks pdf-reader on english |
| 21:19.50 | merlin1991 | or not, my stock device got stuck after swapping language |
| 21:20.58 | freemangordon | give it some time |
| 21:21.07 | merlin1991 | rebooting, in the meantime we can talk about the next -testing |
| 21:21.44 | merlin1991 | I know about k-revc, libxml, alarmd |
| 21:21.54 | freemangordon | ke-recv, alarmd, camera-ui,libxml2 and h-d |
| 21:22.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | easily translatable is an illusion. In china(?) they have separate word for 4_long, 4_thin, 4_round etc. Of course same for other qty |
| 21:23.01 | freemangordon | thanks God we don't have to deal with chinese |
| 21:23.10 | merlin1991 | it's Save as in pdf reader |
| 21:23.18 | merlin1991 | so I guess we'll have Continous view |
| 21:23.33 | merlin1991 | or we'd have to change everything in the pdf reader to have it consistent :D |
| 21:24.01 | freemangordon | agree, let me check how is it in .po file |
| 21:24.52 | merlin1991 | ah I actually forgot about sms thingy |
| 21:25.30 | merlin1991 | so ke-recv, alarmd, camera-ui, libxml2, h-d, sms broadcast widget |
| 21:25.39 | freemangordon | Yeah, it should be "Continuous view" |
| 21:25.52 | freemangordon | and pdf l10n |
| 21:25.56 | merlin1991 | Pali, arcean any other packages which are currently ready or about to getready? |
| 21:26.32 | arcean | merlin1991: no, it's everything |
| 21:26.42 | Pali | I think nothing more |
| 21:26.50 | freemangordon | we can use google translate for first iteration re pdf l10n |
| 21:27.17 | freemangordon | but it is time to have at least english version fixed |
| 21:27.20 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I'd suggest we add languages we can do |
| 21:27.31 | Pali | we can write help to TMO thread |
| 21:27.33 | merlin1991 | so that's english, german +what you speak |
| 21:27.37 | merlin1991 | and the ask for help on tmo |
| 21:27.52 | Pali | we got strings for modest from TMO |
| 21:27.54 | freemangordon | agree, but lets include waht we have in next update |
| 21:28.29 | freemangordon | so ke-recv, alarmd, camera-ui, libxml2, h-d, sms broadcast widget,osso-pdf-viewer-l10n |
| 21:28.33 | merlin1991 | yeah so everybody in here who's got a translation for "Continous view" pm me and please add which langague you translated it to |
| 21:28.53 | merlin1991 | and I'll add that batch and upload to gitorious |
| 21:29.23 | freemangordon | Can't help much with my native language, but lets ask on TMO |
| 21:29.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | umm, linguist? |
| 21:29.54 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51 what do you mean? |
| 21:30.01 | DocScrutinizer51 | qt |
| 21:30.12 | merlin1991 | it's gettext :D |
| 21:30.16 | freemangordon | it does not do translation for you AFAIK |
| 21:30.21 | merlin1991 | and that |
| 21:30.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | :nod: |
| 21:30.35 | merlin1991 | linguist is just a nice gui todo those translations |
| 21:31.09 | merlin1991 | I think the last list from freemangordon is complete |
| 21:31.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | yes |
| 21:31.29 | freemangordon | I will post on TMO re translation |
| 21:32.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | but I managed txl8n for twinkle, and I think you *need* such a tool |
| 21:32.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | (there's sth similar for .po though, afaik) |
| 21:32.30 | merlin1991 | yeah poedit |
| 21:32.39 | merlin1991 | but atm it's just about 1 string |
| 21:32.51 | merlin1991 | so basically we need the translation :D |
| 21:32.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | this will change |
| 21:33.05 | merlin1991 | sure but we have it in po form |
| 21:33.10 | merlin1991 | so we can use poedit later on |
| 21:33.18 | merlin1991 | which is what linguist is |
| 21:36.15 | merlin1991 | I guess everybody thinks it's late enough for today? |
| 21:36.42 | freemangordon | yeah, too late to start the rotation thingy :D |
| 21:36.53 | Pali | now starting day for real programmers :D |
| 21:37.03 | arcean | Pali: it's almost midnight :D |
| 21:37.10 | merlin1991 | so that leaves rotation and worldclock for next time (I'll try to get ade in here aswell) |
| 21:37.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | I'm off for lunch, so sorry |
| 21:37.24 | merlin1991 | next week wednesday 19 UTC? |
| 21:37.28 | DocScrutinizer51 | ;-P |
| 21:37.30 | merlin1991 | so we take summer time into account? |
| 21:37.33 | freemangordon | yes |
| 21:37.35 | arcean | merlin1991: yes |
| 21:38.01 | merlin1991 | Pali: ? |
| 21:38.07 | Pali | ok |
| 21:38.10 | merlin1991 | okay |
| 21:38.11 | freemangordon | merlin1991, when to expect next update, this Sunday? |
| 21:38.16 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: yeah |
| 21:38.19 | freemangordon | good |
| 21:38.24 | arcean | :) |
| 21:38.36 | merlin1991 | I hope I'll get my side done so I can pester MohammadAG tomorrow or friday todo it :D |
| 21:38.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~convert 19 UTC to CEST |
| 21:38.58 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: 21 in cet |
| 21:39.17 | merlin1991 | we're +2 since sunday |
| 21:39.21 | merlin1991 | or was it saturday |
| 21:39.22 | merlin1991 | dunno |
| 21:39.27 | freemangordon | saturday |
| 21:39.40 | freemangordon | well, 3 AM Sunday :D |
| 21:39.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | actuall sunday |
| 21:39.50 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [+o merlin1991] by ChanServ |
| 21:40.12 | merlin1991 | Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo2.1 | meeting: 04.04 21:00 UTC |
| 21:40.14 | merlin1991 | arf |
| 21:40.18 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo2.1 | meeting: 04.04 21:00 UTC |
| 21:40.39 | merlin1991 | every 2nd time I fail to add /topic before pasting the old topic into my input bar |
| 21:41.19 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [-o merlin1991] by merlin1991 |
| 21:41.30 | freemangordon | merlin1991, 21 UTC? |
| 21:41.37 | merlin1991 | err |
| 21:41.41 | merlin1991 | bloody timezones |
| 21:41.44 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [+o merlin1991] by ChanServ |
| 21:41.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | use Konversation, editing topic is a real snap there |
| 21:41.55 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo2.1 | meeting: 04.04 19:00 UTC |
| 21:42.02 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [-o merlin1991] by merlin1991 |
| 21:42.26 | merlin1991 | it's in this client aswell, but I always forget that it actually has that topic functionality |
| 21:42.40 | merlin1991 | I always do /topic to check it instead of looking at the top of hte window |
| 21:43.02 | merlin1991 | important irc information is always at the bottom :D |
| 21:44.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | for friggin xchat that's true for sure |
| 21:45.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | "XChat: DocScrutinizer51 @ znc / #" KTNX |
| 21:46.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | 100% redundance |
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