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| 09:49.54 | Lava_Croft | hmm, those 'fixed' transitions from TMO actually are really well done |
| 09:49.57 | Lava_Croft | cssu material |
| 09:50.51 | Lava_Croft | oh, the word seems to be 'smoothest' |
| 09:50.52 | Lava_Croft | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83000 |
| 09:58.37 | peetah | Lava_Croft: is'nt OC 1000MHz the real smooth factor, rather than the transition.ini ? |
| 09:58.46 | Lava_Croft | peetah: not at all |
| 09:58.51 | Lava_Croft | im using stock kernel |
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| 13:47.01 | dafox | hi all. Since A few days ago I updated my n900 to newest CSSU (I think it's 2.1, with 1.2 already installed). Since then my phone seems to sometimes get confused about whether it is in landscape/portrait orientation. Does anyone know what might be going on? |
| 13:47.11 | dafox | When it happens for example 'xbmc remote' will always be in landscape mode, eventhough it does not support this, and normally it is always in portrait mode (the interface is only designed for portrait mode) |
| 13:47.21 | dafox | when I launch the phone app by turning the following happens: desktop rotates from landscape->portrait, desktop spins to show phone app in portrait mode, phone app spins to landscape mode. If I then select for example settings it rotates back again to portrait to show the settings dialog. Here 'turning control' was set to 'always portrait mode' (so it shouldn't have rotated to landscape in the first place) |
| 13:48.38 | dafox | I am suspecting it may somehow be related to the gui/desktop (hildon?) sometimes crashing when I stop/pause drnoksnes (it already always did this, but not caused any issues before) |
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| 14:43.31 | sam23m | hi yall |
| 14:45.00 | sam23m | whenever i get an email so there are those yellow notifications on the task nav right? when i press it, it goes to the mailbox folders. is it possible to make it direct to the inbox? |
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| 17:38.47 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: update done, no obvious adverse effects |
| 17:39.00 | DocScrutinizer | rtcom-sip stayed |
| 17:43.02 | DocScrutinizer | dman drive by askers |
| 17:44.02 | DocScrutinizer | seems their problems either aren't that severe, or they solve magically |
| 17:44.16 | merlin1991 | dafox is coming and going as far as I see it |
| 17:44.23 | DocScrutinizer | mh# |
| 17:44.27 | DocScrutinizer | mhm even |
| 17:44.28 | merlin1991 | but whe he reports has nothing todo with cssu |
| 17:44.42 | merlin1991 | from 1.2 to 2.1 were no rotation related changes in h-d |
| 17:45.07 | DocScrutinizer | maybe in blacklist though |
| 17:45.20 | DocScrutinizer | even in *his* blacklist? |
| 17:45.46 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, his report sounds strangely familiar to me |
| 17:45.55 | DocScrutinizer | mus've heard this before |
| 17:48.15 | DocScrutinizer | ponders writing a shorty for /etc/init.d/, to set the orientation lock during each boot |
| 17:49.15 | DocScrutinizer | prolly I rather should get rid of this friggin self-destr^Worientation-lock statusbar widget |
| 17:51.12 | DocScrutinizer | though it still blows my minds to get the point in nuking a gconf-key like gui-may-rotate when hitting this lock-button, and then not restoring it to original value when 'un'hitting same button |
| 17:51.55 | DocScrutinizer | I'm temped to shout BUUUUUG! |
| 17:57.11 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: well when you hit the lock you change 2 values |
| 17:57.31 | DocScrutinizer | and the rationale for that? |
| 17:57.40 | merlin1991 | both are checked for by h-d |
| 17:57.57 | DocScrutinizer | toldya, BUUUG ;-D |
| 17:58.06 | merlin1991 | rotation rendering in h-d is a HUGE 500 lines long BUG :D |
| 17:58.57 | DocScrutinizer | wow, that squirts when we smash it |
| 18:00.01 | merlin1991 | lol |
| 18:00.02 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, 500 lines is probably average length of a minor helper function on that system I maintain for bagels |
| 18:01.22 | merlin1991 | hm I need to refacter 200 lines of helper functions into a class here |
| 18:01.27 | merlin1991 | and add threading on top |
| 18:01.32 | merlin1991 | not looking forward to that |
| 18:01.41 | DocScrutinizer | seems some of our coders use their 31" screen in portrait, just to be able to say "but well, it not exactly one screen length, but almost only two" |
| 18:01.55 | merlin1991 | :D |
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| 18:03.04 | DocScrutinizer | using insanely long inline functions and even macros is another popular method ;-) |
| 18:03.16 | merlin1991 | insanely long inline functions? |
| 18:03.18 | merlin1991 | WTF |
| 18:03.54 | merlin1991 | macros and long explicit inline functions, probably 2 of the worst things in regard to speed |
| 18:04.11 | DocScrutinizer | idly wonders if OMAP3430 also has a built-in embedded-tracing-module |
| 18:04.59 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: look at ARM assembler log of a good C compiler. You'll be amazed |
| 18:05.44 | DocScrutinizer | the friggin thing optimizes so ruthlessly that I sometimes honestly doubt I'm looking at my own code |
| 18:06.04 | DocScrutinizer | moving functions inline though they aren't |
| 18:06.20 | merlin1991 | I live way too highlevel on x86, arm assembler is a language I don't understand :D |
| 18:06.27 | DocScrutinizer | swapping sequence of code lines, in the magnitude of 10 to 100 |
| 18:06.35 | DocScrutinizer | lines |
| 18:06.57 | DocScrutinizer | real fun to watch those things on in-circuit-debugger |
| 18:07.29 | merlin1991 | well next or the semseter after that I'll have a compiler specific lecture where as a part of it we're going to build our own, that's going to be fun |
| 18:09.19 | DocScrutinizer | just compile an arbitrary n900 pkg with the proper compiler flags to produce asm logs with interleaved c sourcelines. You'll marvel at what you see |
| 18:10.01 | DocScrutinizer | I'm rather sure gcc is no less nifty regarding optimisation than RVCT |
| 18:11.06 | DocScrutinizer | inline directive is just a suggestion to compiler |
| 18:12.02 | DocScrutinizer | and register directive is simply nonsense to use, the compiler is waaaay better than you are, regarding keeping the right vars in registers |
| 18:13.38 | DocScrutinizer | it seems there are even such weird things like an ARM functioncall ABI, which defines that up to 4(?) 32bit dates are passed to a function in registers, not stack |
| 18:14.16 | DocScrutinizer | on c++ of course one less |
| 18:14.32 | DocScrutinizer | for THIS |
| 18:15.45 | DocScrutinizer | the mixing of thumb and ARM code doesn't help on readability of asm code ;-D |
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| 18:23.13 | Raimu | Is there some neat list of all of maemo's important sqlite-based databases? |
| 18:23.56 | Raimu | I understand some're filename.db while others have no signifier in their filename at all. |
| 18:24.33 | Raimu | (This in regards to the discussion of bloated eventdb and whatnot databases) |
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