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| 00:17.37 | merlin1991 | bah |
| 00:17.46 | merlin1991 | I'm dissappointed by bioware |
| 00:17.54 | javispedro | me3 sucks |
| 00:17.58 | javispedro | I don't need to play it to know |
| 00:18.00 | javispedro | :) |
| 00:18.24 | javispedro | GAN will certainly be thrilled by this |
| 00:18.34 | merlin1991 | the game is nice but teh ending is dissapointing |
| 00:19.06 | javispedro | let me guess: it is basically fixed whatever you did in me1 and me2 :) |
| 00:19.10 | merlin1991 | it builds up all that you're going todo it despite all odds, but in the end you can't survive :/ |
| 00:19.39 | merlin1991 | you can save pretty much everyone but you :( |
| 00:21.26 | merlin1991 | I also hate the fact that I had to turn down the difficulty for the last 10 mins of gameplay |
| 00:22.17 | merlin1991 | I played the whole damn thing on insane, and then in the last sequenze they just spawn bosses all the time that take longer to kill (with maximum damage output) than you have time |
| 00:23.59 | merlin1991 | I just feel betrayed that I played through 3 games and still don't get my happy ending |
| 00:25.56 | merlin1991 | I must say the Deus Ex ending didn't feel that wrong, because you don't really get attached to the character, even though it's still the same scheme |
| 00:26.08 | merlin1991 | you get 3 choices and none is a proper ending for your character |
| 00:27.00 | merlin1991 | but enough of me3, time to merge some h-d commits :D |
| 00:43.49 | MohammadAG | hmm, bad endings, lemme remember |
| 00:44.18 | javispedro | heh, if you play in insane then you're not my kind of player |
| 00:44.19 | MohammadAG | Killzone 3, shows the fact they can make a Killzone 4, probably on the vita so you buy that |
| 00:44.33 | MohammadAG | Portal 2, best ending eva |
| 00:44.46 | javispedro | pssht :) |
| 00:45.55 | MohammadAG | would've been fun if it tracked moon shape and said "Replay the game in 15 days unless you can aim like an eagle" |
| 00:46.06 | javispedro | ah, that part was cool indeed |
| 00:46.10 | javispedro | was thinking on the actual ending |
| 00:46.31 | MohammadAG | the corn field? nah, should've been tomatoes |
| 00:46.31 | javispedro | oh, that part was cool indeed /me goes find the music |
| 00:46.59 | MohammadAG | I Want You Gone javispedro |
| 00:47.10 | javispedro | (heehee http://t.co/bLBl6kDW ) |
| 00:48.12 | MohammadAG | hates shortened links |
| 00:48.23 | MohammadAG | why? cause my DNS sucks at resolving them |
| 00:48.29 | javispedro | not disagreeing |
| 00:48.36 | javispedro | but getting a usable link from twitter is an adventure |
| 00:48.48 | MohammadAG | oh, twitter returned that? |
| 00:48.49 | MohammadAG | weak |
| 00:49.04 | MohammadAG | I still want one of those :( |
| 00:52.25 | javispedro | well since I've slowed down with sowatch few have complained |
| 00:52.48 | javispedro | the firmware development environment has only recently been released and seems overly complex |
| 00:55.24 | MohammadAG | so it still can't shoot lasers then? |
| 00:55.40 | MohammadAG | and by shoot lasers I mean guide missiles from the watch |
| 00:56.15 | merlin1991 | javispedro: what kind of player are you? :D |
| 00:56.51 | javispedro | MohammadAG: hum .... *goes look at price of usb-based missile launchers* |
| 00:56.58 | javispedro | merlin1991: the bad one kind |
| 00:57.32 | javispedro | had a hard time @ suicide mission... in normal difficulty :) |
| 00:58.00 | merlin1991 | played it through on insane .D |
| 01:00.48 | javispedro | (not that I enjoy shooters... me1 I enjoyed, me2 I dragged myself through it because of the story and few rpg stuff left, me3 I'm not buying) |
| 01:04.19 | MohammadAG | Mass Effect is a shooter right? |
| 01:04.25 | MohammadAG | cause I hate RPGs |
| 01:04.44 | javispedro | it was a mix between a rpg and a shooter, evolving to a plain shooter frm 2 onwards |
| 01:06.02 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 01:06.26 | merlin1991 | me1 was awesome, form there it only went downwards |
| 01:06.36 | merlin1991 | s/form/from/ |
| 01:07.30 | merlin1991 | though it at least was still story driven in me2 |
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| 07:03.19 | Lava_Croft | mass effect is an rpg for people who dont like rpgs, but for for whom playing a shooter does not gain enough social status |
| 07:03.43 | Lava_Croft | hence they hide behind the mask of an empty, shallow post y2k bioware 'rpg' |
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| 13:41.02 | merlin1991 | Lava_Croft: that is why I have more game time on RO2 than on mass effect :D |
| 13:41.54 | ivgalvez | Annoying. TMO down again |
| 13:42.54 | merlin1991 | like ususal :D |
| 13:45.47 | ivgalvez | with all the administrative problems we have, it might be a good idea to start a backup place |
| 13:45.55 | ivgalvez | maybe something more general |
| 13:46.03 | ivgalvez | such as Open Mobile devices |
| 13:46.25 | ivgalvez | so it could fit not only to Maemo devices but Nemo, Tizen, Open Pandora |
| 13:46.33 | ivgalvez | and share resources with others |
| 13:47.47 | sam23m | back up +1 |
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| 14:34.26 | guly | she's up! |
| 14:35.21 | sam23m | woohooooo |
| 14:54.12 | ivgalvez | almost 7 hours down |
| 15:01.27 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: ping |
| 15:02.31 | freemangordon | merlin1991, pong |
| 15:02.55 | merlin1991 | the new h-d only benefits from update clutter but does not require it, right? |
| 15:03.02 | freemangordon | yep |
| 15:03.50 | freemangordon | but it is better to depend on it, I don't want unnecessary bug reports |
| 15:03.58 | merlin1991 | (currently merging h-d) |
| 15:04.30 | freemangordon | BTW there is a MR for hildon-home too |
| 15:04.41 | merlin1991 | okay will look into that one aswell |
| 15:05.10 | freemangordon | once tose are merged I will make .debs and will push them in the "repo to be" |
| 15:05.19 | freemangordon | *those |
| 15:05.46 | merlin1991 | btw if you want testers you can hand out the url on tmo for the brave souls :) |
| 15:06.21 | freemangordon | Well, I would rather wait you to be ready with the repo, I really hope you will do it these days. |
| 15:06.46 | freemangordon | BTW isn't there a way someone else to help you? |
| 15:08.43 | freemangordon | merlin1991, throwing the url on TMO is a bad idea, having in mind there are not only .debs but all the stuff dpkg-buildpackage is producing, just imagine the questions :D |
| 15:08.57 | merlin1991 | true :D |
| 15:20.33 | ivgalvez | Don't worry, trisha02 will install it and report... |
| 15:31.27 | freemangordon | ivgalvez, BTW where this kid disappear? |
| 15:31.29 | freemangordon | :D |
| 15:31.40 | freemangordon | She was so active on TMO |
| 15:33.37 | merlin1991 | even better question who is trisha02? :D |
| 15:33.38 | merlin1991 | should read more tmo |
| 15:42.58 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: ping |
| 15:43.09 | MohammadAG | pong |
| 15:43.20 | merlin1991 | you could start building the new -testing |
| 15:43.37 | merlin1991 | I can give you a list, just have to prepare 3 more repos but we should be good to go |
| 15:46.10 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: whatabout ke-recv ready for -testing? |
| 15:47.17 | ivgalvez | I really need ke-recv |
| 15:47.35 | ivgalvez | it should allow to mount ext4 on boot, shouldn't it? |
| 16:43.33 | merlin1991 | also freemangordon whatabout the osso-pdf-reader l10n? |
| 16:54.54 | merlin1991 | Pali ping |
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| 17:22.09 | freemangordon | merlin1991, ker-recv seems ready for -testing |
| 17:22.58 | freemangordon | there is one more issue, but methinks it is related to h-e-n/libhildonfm |
| 17:23.39 | freemangordon | MohammadAG, ping |
| 17:23.58 | MohammadAG | pong |
| 17:24.25 | freemangordon | You can find some pre-build .debs here http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/develdebs/ |
| 17:42.42 | freemangordon | merlin1991, ping |
| 17:45.07 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong |
| 17:45.48 | freemangordon | merlin1991, I was under the impression that arcean made some changes in h-d besides my fixes, seems I was wring :) |
| 17:45.52 | freemangordon | *wrong |
| 17:46.35 | Raimu-X | Something in particular to test in those debs? |
| 17:47.28 | freemangordon | Raimu-X, well, look at changelog, if you find something interesting... Otherwise those are candidate-testing |
| 17:47.48 | freemangordon | should be stable anyway |
| 17:48.27 | Raimu-X | Very well. |
| 17:49.04 | freemangordon | You can wait a little bit until i upload h-d and h-h (if you wish) |
| 17:49.50 | Raimu-X | I'll wait as I'm not home anyways. |
| 17:49.56 | freemangordon | :) |
| 17:52.09 | freemangordon | merlin1991, are you going to update debian/changelog for h-h or me to do it? |
| 17:55.54 | merlin1991 | changelog is updated |
| 17:56.06 | merlin1991 | commit order isn't perfect though |
| 17:56.06 | freemangordon | :) thanks |
| 17:56.21 | freemangordon | as is the life :D |
| 17:56.43 | merlin1991 | the changelog update is in arceans first commit |
| 17:56.48 | merlin1991 | the other 2 are part of the same thing |
| 17:57.03 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 17:59.03 | freemangordon | h-d and h-h are in "repo" |
| 17:59.34 | freemangordon | merlin1991, what about freetype? |
| 18:01.00 | merlin1991 | merged is going to be part of the -testing udpate |
| 18:02.17 | freemangordon | do you want me to build anything else? |
| 18:02.39 | merlin1991 | just wait for mag he should be building everything anyway |
| 18:03.08 | freemangordon | wait for mag or his lappie? |
| 18:03.09 | freemangordon | :D |
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| 18:39.50 | Zx432 | Hi |
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| 19:04.38 | Zx432 | Anyone? |
| 19:06.42 | Pali | ping merlin1991 |
| 19:08.11 | Pali | ping MohammadAG |
| 19:15.40 | merlin1991 | pong Pali |
| 19:16.38 | Pali | merlin1991, did you included my patch for osso-xterm into -testing? |
| 19:16.52 | merlin1991 | no, we said we want it within the ui |
| 19:17.17 | Pali | ok |
| 19:17.22 | merlin1991 | as a checkbox of the drop down menu |
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| 19:18.06 | Zx432 | quick question |
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| 19:18.30 | Zx432 | I am about to install ssu for the first time |
| 19:19.10 | merlin1991 | ... |
| 19:19.12 | Zx432 | I made backup with the integrated programm |
| 19:19.27 | Zx432 | And saved it on my comp hdd |
| 19:20.47 | Zx432 | If the unspikable happenes, and I brick my device how can I open my saved contacts and callendar on comp and move it to new phone?? |
| 19:21.16 | merlin1991 | yes and no |
| 19:21.28 | merlin1991 | you can always move it to a new n900 |
| 19:21.59 | merlin1991 | the data also is stored in such a way that you can with a lil work move the content to any phone |
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| 19:22.16 | merlin1991 | but most importantly we don't do anything to the phone that can't be fixed with a reflash |
| 19:22.30 | merlin1991 | so you're not going to brick your n900 beyond repair with the cssu |
| 19:22.39 | Zx432 | That is nice. :) |
| 19:22.57 | Zx432 | I have no doubt in you. I doubt me. |
| 19:25.11 | Zx432 | Another question from a silly noob: What do I gain? I read the logs, but since I am not a good programmer I am not totally clear on that. |
| 19:25.33 | merlin1991 | you read http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 19:25.44 | merlin1991 | especially the installtion part ;) |
| 19:25.56 | merlin1991 | s/installtion/installation/ |
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| 19:27.41 | Zx432 | Yes I did. |
| 19:29.37 | merlin1991 | it's pretty straight forward, update the phone to pr 1.3 if you heaven't yet, remove modified hildon desktop if you have it installed, then open the wiki page in the n900 browser and click the testing or stable icon depending on what you prefer |
| 19:33.20 | Zx432 | ok. Hoow do I know If I have hildon installed? It would be listed in app manager? |
| 19:33.36 | merlin1991 | you should remember that you did so |
| 19:33.44 | merlin1991 | it doesn't install by itself ;) |
| 19:33.56 | Zx432 | I know :) |
| 19:34.32 | merlin1991 | or you can use "dpkg -l modified-hildon-desktop" to check from the commandline |
| 19:37.30 | M4rtinK | the most important thing about CSSU from my perspective as a developer are probably the updated Qt libraries |
| 19:37.52 | Zx432 | But let's assume I forgot. :) I used the command and got : -sh: dpg: not found |
| 19:38.04 | Zx432 | I assume that means I am ok to go? |
| 19:38.08 | merlin1991 | because you didn't type the k in dpkg |
| 19:38.19 | Zx432 | aw |
| 19:38.21 | Zx432 | sorry |
| 19:38.23 | M4rtinK | the old Qt version in non-CSSU is quite buggy |
| 19:38.48 | merlin1991 | well the Qt version we had within CSSU some time back that one was bad xD |
| 19:39.33 | merlin1991 | but true 4.6.* which is stock maemo is quite bad compared to 4.7.4 |
| 19:39.43 | Zx432 | no packages found matching modified-hildon-desktop |
| 19:39.52 | merlin1991 | then you're good to go :) |
| 19:40.01 | Zx432 | :) |
| 19:40.04 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: your webhost is awesome |
| 19:40.16 | Zx432 | Thanks for help. |
| 19:40.25 | merlin1991 | currently copying the pr1.2 source iso with 10M/s according to wget |
| 19:41.45 | M4rtinK | merlin1991: also QtComponents work just like on Harmattan with CSSU Qt (there are just some missing icons right now) |
| 19:41.56 | M4rtinK | but are very broken on stock PR 1.3 |
| 19:42.10 | merlin1991 | afaik there are still some missing components compared to harmattan |
| 19:42.19 | merlin1991 | but what runs on cssu should run pefect on harmattan |
| 19:45.36 | M4rtinK | I hit only some missing icons so far |
| 19:46.18 | M4rtinK | maybe some labs* components or similar ? |
| 19:47.40 | M4rtinK | also concerning the missing icons, author of the port announced, than an update will be coming at the end of the month :) |
| 19:48.12 | merlin1991 | i think that is Achipa? |
| 19:52.04 | DocScrutinizer | ~seen achipa |
| 19:52.08 | infobot | achipa <~attila@a91-155-190-80.elisa-laajakaista.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 120d 10h 1m 17s ago, saying: 'also libqtm-12 seems to have lost the promotion block so it's borked in general as it propagated to testing'. |
| 19:57.15 | M4rtinK | the developer goes under the nick "inean" on TMO - not sure if its the same person :) |
| 19:57.39 | merlin1991 | nop that's not the same person |
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| 20:22.56 | Zx432 | ok done |
| 20:24.46 | Zx432 | but I cant see an< difference |
| 20:24.58 | Zx432 | *any |
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| 20:28.57 | merlin1991 | did you go for stable or -testing? |
| 20:29.55 | Zx432 | stabile |
| 20:30.57 | Zx432 | Installation was surprisingly fast. |
| 20:32.17 | merlin1991 | did you have a reboot already? |
| 20:32.31 | merlin1991 | or do you still have to click the button in the app launcher? ;) |
| 20:32.32 | Zx432 | yes |
| 20:32.58 | Zx432 | I clicked, there was a white command prompt |
| 20:33.10 | merlin1991 | and then the application manager should have opened |
| 20:33.19 | merlin1991 | and you should have had an update to install |
| 20:33.34 | Zx432 | I had and I installed |
| 20:33.44 | merlin1991 | well -stable mostly is about under the hood fixes |
| 20:33.45 | Zx432 | 23mb app |
| 20:33.47 | merlin1991 | not so much visible stuff |
| 20:33.54 | Zx432 | ah ok |
| 20:34.07 | merlin1991 | but you should for example be able to enable an additional 5 desktops |
| 20:34.15 | Zx432 | how? |
| 20:35.05 | Zx432 | There is no orientation bar for stabile version? |
| 20:35.07 | merlin1991 | desktop -> cogwheel -> manage views -> swipe to the left -> tap the black space |
| 20:35.35 | merlin1991 | there is one but it's not forced on you |
| 20:35.49 | merlin1991 | you can install it via the application manager, it's under 'Desktop' |
| 20:36.22 | Zx432 | Cool new desktops! :) |
| 20:39.44 | MohammadAG | Zx432, who are you? |
| 20:40.01 | MohammadAG | I almost got you glined, sorta |
| 20:40.23 | Zx432 | Who am I? |
| 20:40.40 | MohammadAG | well, scratch that |
| 20:40.45 | MohammadAG | why did you send me OTRs? |
| 20:40.50 | Zx432 | sorry |
| 20:40.58 | MohammadAG | 10 others did the same and I reported them to #freenode |
| 20:41.02 | Zx432 | my bad |
| 20:41.05 | MohammadAG | I thought it was a spam attack |
| 20:41.12 | MohammadAG | no, not really, blame the 10 others |
| 20:41.13 | Zx432 | No I am yust silly |
| 20:41.19 | Zx432 | *just |
| 20:41.42 | Zx432 | I am pretty new with the whole Irc thing. |
| 20:42.16 | guly | maybe it's just the client that tries to encrypt queries |
| 20:42.32 | MohammadAG | you're using pidgin as someone pointed out on #freenode |
| 20:43.01 | Zx432 | So please accept my sincere apology. Yes I am on pidgin. |
| 20:44.39 | MohammadAG | I should be the one apologizing, almost got you banned |
| 20:45.19 | Zx432 | And I have encryption but only for msn. It shouldn't cause problems here. I am just happy you didn't ban me :) |
| 20:46.52 | Pali | MohammadAG, can you look at https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/status-area-applet-battery/merge_requests/1 ? |
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