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04:51.46Seirdyor has it moved or been deprecated?
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10:08.50zeneyekonversation keeps asing for gpg password to decrypt kdewallet. how to stop that (lost pass) like delete that kde passwords wallet or something or tell konversation to not use it
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10:15.37CyberTailorzeneye: Konversation doesn't have encryption o_O
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11:06.42IIIFESo my understanding of KDE is this, kwin is the window manager and plasma is the name of the project. Am I wrong?
11:06.55Fuchsplasma is the desktop
11:06.58Fuchskwin is the window manager
11:07.17IIIFECan I swap out kwin with a different WM?
11:08.17Fuchstechnically yes
11:08.49Fuchsyou can also use the KDE applications (file manager, image and document viewer etc.) under a different environment
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11:10.12shtrbWhat kde IRC channel is linked to the matrix one ?
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11:12.24toskyIIIFE: you won't be probably be able to change it in wayland (but that's the same for all other desktop environments)
11:16.27IIIFEWhat's the difference between discover and installing KDE programs by source?
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11:21.03toskydiscover is (roughly) a wrapper around package managing system, so it uses the packages of the distributions and also a few others from non distribution-specific repositories like flatpak
11:21.10shtrbIIIFE, binary who someome built for you , or one you build build by yourself.
11:21.45IIIFEDoes discover have dependency resolution?
11:22.08shtrbIIIFE, it would take me to get binaries and install plasma from scratch in around 1 hour (download speed) it would take me a few days to build plasma from source
11:22.14shtrbIIIFE, yes
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11:23.00toskyif you want to install plasma, just check the package manager on your distribution
11:23.58IIIFEI don't want plasma as much as I want select KDE programs like kdenlive, krita, kolourpaint, and a few others.
11:24.06IIIFEor kdevelop or kate
11:24.19toskybut you did mention plasma earlier
11:24.20shtrbIIIFE, use discover and add flatpak in addition to your package manager
11:24.39shtrbIIIFE, it will do all the work for you
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11:26.42IIIFEWhat if my distro doesn't have a KDE package. Like say clazy.
11:27.01shtrbthat's what flatpak and having a decent disto is for :)
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11:39.23CyberTailorwrites ebuilds
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12:21.03BluesKajHi folks
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12:53.48p4bl0hi all, will KDE irc channels move to libera?
12:55.50toskyno one can probably answer the question *at this point*
12:56.02toskythere is a discussion which just started on the kde-community mailing list
12:56.09toskyplease follow the discussion there
13:00.33p4bl0thanks, tosky :)
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13:07.27CyberTailorfreenode still has ok privacy policy
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13:07.47CyberTailorsadly, it became a single point of failure :/
13:11.24obsitoshi all!
13:11.43obsitosis this the right place to ask some support for ktorrent?
13:12.29obsitosjust because the ktorrent channel is dead
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13:18.34CyberTailorinstall qbittorrent
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13:20.35obsitosyes, i did. but i would like to use ktorrent.
13:23.11BitterblueYou can ask.
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13:24.26obsitosthank you Bitterblue
13:26.09BitterblueI wanted to use KTorrent, but it had some problem or lacked a feature, I don't remember.
13:26.24obsitosmy problem is ktorrent cannot reach any tracker.  its trying to do it via KIO. "Doing tracker request to url (via KIO): https://ipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com...." but the log just say "Error: Doesn't exist"
13:27.06FireBurnI got quite a few issues with ktorrent, it seemed at the time that things weren't really being developed so I switched to transmission with the qt frontend
13:27.21obsitosi have no idea what should i do. all forum posts or any clues posted in 2013-2014, and i doesn't know this kio thing
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13:28.08obsitosktorrent feature set will be fine for me, just it doesn't work :D
13:28.55BitterblueCan you ping that address?
13:30.31obsitosyes, i can
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13:31.21obsitosand the version is: 21.04.1 on kde neon distro
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13:35.48BitterblueWhat happens if you run "kioclient5 download 'url'"?
13:36.11obsitosfrom terminal?
13:36.23BitterblueYes.
13:37.25obsitosi've got a weird console output and popped up a "save" window
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13:38.27obsitosit saved a file what is seems a binary
13:40.30obsitosnope. i have opened a wrong file.
13:40.39obsitosit doesn't saved anything
13:40.55obsitosQObject::connect: No such signal KIO::CopyJob::result(Job*)
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13:43.58BitterblueThat's nice.
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13:47.43BitterblueDid you install any KDE packages from a PPA or other less official sources?
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13:49.43obsitosonly the libreoffice ubuntu-ppa-focal and vcmi-ubuntu-ppa-focal what i added into the repository list
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13:50.47obsitosi'm installed some developer packages from offical sources, because i'm working on a kirigami app
13:50.58obsitosthats all i think
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14:03.47BitterblueI guess there is a bug somewhere in KIO. Maybe it's related to the problem in KTorrent.
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14:07.20Bitterblue"cat" instead of "download" works, though.
14:08.43BitterblueMaybe "Error: Doesn't exist" refers to the torrent's hash?
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14:23.38obsitosi had to put the url into ""
14:23.56obsitosthen i got other error message :D
14:24.15obsitosyou sent me garbage - no info hash
14:24.31HashWhat?
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14:24.38obsitoslol
14:24.38HashOh nm.
14:24.39obsitos:D
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14:25.11obsitossorry. its about hashcode
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14:26.30obsitosnow the kioclient works from terminal
14:27.07obsitosthe response seems valid
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14:30.54obsitosbut the ktorrent log is still: error: doesnt exist https://torrent.ubuntu.com/announce... file or directory
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14:48.15obsitosi found the problem. i accidentally installed from flatpak version of ktorrent.
14:48.46obsitosi've uninstalled that and i used the apt for installation
14:48.49obsitosit works now
14:48.59obsitosthank you everything!
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14:55.40BluesKajwonder when the Konversation SSL option will be changed to TLS ...seems just a name change is needed
14:57.18toskyit could be just "security", I guess anyone can propose a change to the UI (and to the documentation)
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15:45.39sirfireballIf I right click my desktop it will, but not in firefox for example
15:47.54sirfireballAnd it doesn't blur the area behind Spectacle (screenshot)
15:48.04sirfireballeven though it's transparent
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15:58.26chaotixHey.  On a fresh install of KDE Neon.  In many of the tweak and settings there is a button to download additional themes, widgets, etc.  I do not know what this app/module is called.  In any event it does not seem to be working.  It just tries and tries to load and then i guess it just gets all tuckered out, because a dialog pops up that says "An Error Occured" in the title, and under that it says "Network error 4: Socket operation
15:58.26chaotixtimed out"
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16:03.54chaotixi may have found a fix.  if not ill be back
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16:46.03teratornhi! anyone aware of easy way to install latest KDE Plasma desktop binaries on Debian 10.9? I would prefer newest Plasma release as opposed to what is in Debian
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16:51.39toskyteratorn: it's a bit difficult and I don't think there is any; you may want to wait until Debian 11 releases (it is currently frozen)
16:52.22toskyor use the current Debian testing if you feel like it (as it's frozen, it's getting closer and closer to the final release)
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