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00:15.19mefistofelesoh, I didn't know about that one, sounds cool
00:27.45blaiseanyone know anything about the animated background plugins for plasma ?
00:28.21blaiseidk what I'm doing wrong, I've tried several different video formats and all I get is a blacked out background
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00:28.52blaiseto they require something I don't have?
00:29.17mefistofelesI have no idea, never used them tbh
00:29.21blaiseI have kde-apps/dragon
00:30.02blaiseI just wanna have a nice looping snow scene for the holidays
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00:33.25mefistofelesblaise: maybe if you tells us what you have tried exactly and how is it failing
00:33.28mefistofeles*tell
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00:37.11blaisesnagged one of those looping snow video's off youtube in webp format and tried to select it
00:37.37blaisesince that's what https://store.kde.org/p/1339104/ wants..
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00:37.47blaiseI've also converted other videos to webp..
00:38.50JanKusanagido you mean webm?
00:39.09JanKusanagiwebm is just a container, what matters most is the actual video codec used inside
00:39.13blaiseeh, yes..
00:39.41JanKusanagimaybe you're laking support for some specific codec (at least, for the purposes of the engine that Plasma is using to play video, even if, say, VLC, can play it)
00:39.47JanKusanagih264, etc
00:40.12blaiseI've just enabled all the stuffs for ffmpeg and started a recompile
00:40.53blaisethe page says to do a ffmpeg -i source_video_file -loop 0 target_video.webp ti create the webp file
00:42.16JanKusanagiwebp is an image (PPPicture) format, again... webm?
00:42.53blaisethat ffmpeg like is an example on the plugin page
00:42.59blaiseshrugs
00:43.26blaises/like/line
00:45.09JanKusanagimaybe those are instruction to create an animated image, like an animated GIF, but in WebP format?
00:45.25blaisethis one supports all kinds of video formats.. but I can't get that one to work either.. https://store.kde.org/p/1032000/
00:45.33JanKusanagiif the plugin actually plays _videos_ why convert anythin in the first place?
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00:45.48josef64blaise: I'm not sure, but probably it needs the media-libs/qtav package
00:46.23blaisehrmm
00:47.39blaiseJanKusanagi: different pluggin
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01:00.35blaiserecompiling ffmpeg with webp support worked
01:00.47blaiseother plugin still doesn't work
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03:07.34ap4lmtreefor kde can you have different scalign for different monitors? i have have a 4k one and a 1080p monitor that i want different scaling
03:07.59JanKusanagiI think you can do that with Plasma under Wayland
03:08.03JanKusanagibut not under X11
03:09.58ap4lmtreei have to use x11 bc wayland doesnt support dual gpu of  integrated and discrete at the same time right now
03:10.13ap4lmtreeplasma 2.21 is coming out in feburary? it is supposed to support that i think
03:12.38JanKusanagi5.21? sure
03:13.37JanKusanagihttps://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5#Future_releases
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03:23.36Sarmashort of running a vm, is there a way to force a window to "think" it's focused, to prevent game muting?
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06:54.39blaiseso, I ran across this and decided it would make a good desktop backgound... https://youtu.be/57ixXI5zohw
06:54.41blaise:D
06:54.50blaiseat least, for the season.. :)
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06:56.48alocer25blaise: how would you do that ?
06:57.43alocer25mplayer or mpv ?
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07:01.10blaisealocer25: https://store.kde.org/p/1339104/
07:01.56blaisejust make sure your ffmpeg has webp support and you can convert any video to work
07:02.01blaiseit's kinda great
07:02.13blaiseand it doesn't seem to use hardly any resources..
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07:02.39blaiseI did mind you use a video that was only 15 seconds long...
07:02.40blaise:)
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09:28.09messertingHi, I'd like to decide what to show in systemsettings "Frequently used" to instead show my favorites. In ~/.config/kde.org/systemsettings.conf I have "favoriteFolders=@Invalid()", what does that mean?
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09:48.14Mamarokmesserting: why modifying the config file when you can just do it in the Menu Settings?
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09:49.14messertingMamarok: Hm, where is "Menu Settings"?
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14:25.08messertingHi, I've used KDE for many years, but haven't used Activites until recently. I love it. However - upon session restore, my Firefox windows end up at wrong activities.
14:25.13messertingIs there a fix for that?
14:26.48messertingAlso: If I want to move a window to a different activity, I press alt-f3, a, and select activity, then alt-f3, a, and deselect the current. Is it possible to achieve the same in one go?
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14:31.10d42messerting: you can make it appear on an activity of your choosing in the alt-f3 thing under special application settings and such, i think
14:31.27d42as for moving between activites, i wish i knew ;-;
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14:46.31messertingUhm, my desktop just crashed, maybe because I had upgraded to latest kde in Fedora33. However, now, if I start something from the Alt-F2 prompt, programs don't have the correct theme any more
14:46.42messertingIf I start from the K-menu, it is correct
14:47.02messertingalso if I start from konsole
14:47.44messertingIs krunner not running from the right environment or something?
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15:06.07messertingok, so my krunner is not running with the correct environment. If I do Alt-F2, "echo $PATH > /tmp/test", enter, I get a different path than if I do the same from the K-menu.
15:06.27messertingHow can I solve that? Is it because of a failed session restore or something?
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15:23.17messertingOk, so I found a process " tags.so [kdeinit5] tags ..." that I killed and also killed krunner, and now it behaves as expected again
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15:26.19messertingI talked too soon - it only works if I first kill the tags.so process and the krunner, and then start krunner manually from konsole. Otherwise, it wil end up in the wrong environment again...
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15:29.55JanKusanagi" I get a different path than if I do the same from the K-menu"  â† how? It's not like you can run "echo blahblah" in the application launcher
15:30.47JanKusanagiif you mean it's different than running "echo blahblah" inside a Konsole window, of course it's different... that Konsole window runs a shell (probably GNU Bash) which loads its own configs on start
15:31.05JanKusanagiobviously Plasma itself has no reason to read Bash's config... why would it?
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15:50.53messertingJanKusanagi: Yes you can run a command "echo $PATH > /tmp/test" in the launcher, just tap Win-button and then begin to type
15:51.30messertingYes, the environment matters, since I run commands from krunner, and my local path is not available, thus some commands are missing
15:51.35JanKusanagiwell, that certainly doesn't work with Application Menu
15:51.54JanKusanagibut regardless, you can't expect KRunner to have loaded Bash's stuff
15:52.06JanKusanagiso you need to modify Plasma's environment to suit your needs
15:52.29messertingJanKusanagi: It used to work the last X years, but stopped today after the update
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15:53.47messertingJanKusanagi: What is application menu? is that the same as the k-menu? I guess it might depend on the theme we are using also.
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15:56.37messertingMy problem is also that if I start eg. "systemsettings" from krunner, I get the wrong color theme. So there is something wrong beyond the point of the PATH env.
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16:53.40jakiki6Hi, I love the feature of Windows 98 that you can freely place icons on your desktop so that they are not aligned to a grid. Is this possible with KDE Plasma?
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17:18.49honigkuchenI like DOS
17:18.56honigkuchenis DOS possible with kde plasma?
17:19.01honigkuchen:D ^^
17:19.03honigkuchensry
17:19.05mefistofelesheh
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17:19.13mefistofelesoh they left
17:19.28mefistofelesfwiw, you can have a floder view with plasma, not sure about the misaligned icons, though
17:19.36mefistofelesI don't use the folder view, I barely see my desktop, ever
17:19.53mefistofeless/desktop/desktop wallpaper
17:19.54honigkuchenI cant stand seeing any icons on my desktop
17:19.59honigkuchenit makes me nervous
17:20.03honigkuchenlike undone tasks
17:20.08honigkuchenI still have to do
17:20.23honigkuchenfree desktop freeze my mind
17:20.50honigkuchenfrees
17:20.53honigkuchennot freeze
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17:30.28honigkuchencan kde punch card?
17:31.17honigkuchencan it only uses elecontronic computers
17:31.23honigkuchenor also mechanical computers
17:31.57honigkuchendoes it run on slide rule?
17:32.23honigkuchen(I find this funny - sorry)
17:32.39mefistofelesooh, I think I found a bug with kde 5.20
17:32.48BitterblueYou can run Dosbox.
17:33.20honigkuchenbugs are evil creatures
17:33.47honigkuchenbird needs them to eat
17:34.02honigkuchenand we lost most of the bird population in the whole world
17:34.07honigkuchenin the last 200 years
17:34.17BitterblueNot the pigeons, though.
17:34.19BitterblueSadly.
17:34.35honigkuchenbecause of pesticide
17:34.38mefistofelesI have the icon-only taskbar, and when there are grouped windows I have it set up to "Shows textual list" when clicking grouped task. You know how you can re-order the windows from that "textual list"... it works for a while but then the order is lost again
17:34.52mefistofelesnot sure what's triggering it, though... seems a really fuzzy bug
17:34.56mefistofeles*seems like
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20:18.27ArsimaelGood evening
20:18.39ArsimaelIs anyone here which is using wayland?
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20:21.58JanKusanagimaybe...
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20:24.18ArsimaelI'm running KDE on Arch (KDE Version 5.20.3, Framework 5.76.0, QT 5.15.1, Kernel 5.9.9, x64). How do I set a "primary monitor"? When I launch a game, it always starts on monitor 2 (left monitor) and I would like to open it on the middle (main) monitor).
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20:25.58JanKusanagi*Plasma 5.20.3
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20:26.17ArsimaelYes
20:26.48JanKusanagisetting primary monitor used to be in Display Configuration in Plasma's system settings, but that got overhauled
20:27.11JanKusanagiand I don't have such a setting there now, but that might be because I have only one screen =)
20:28.45ArsimaelI know, thats why I wrote "primary" in quotes. So far I tried to rewire the monitors so the middle montior is on DP1 while he others are on DP2 and DP3 - But no luck. I have the middle monitor Active when launching a new game, but it always starts on the left monitor.
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20:33.28JanKusanagimaybe you can use a different "window positioning" setting, set it to Centered or something different than the default
20:33.41JanKusanagiif it's only a few games, you could use window rules for them, to force Screen X
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20:35.39ArsimaelIt seems to be game dependent. When I start Doom Eternal, it appears on the middle screen. When I strt Killing Floor 2 it always starts on the left screen.
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20:41.29ArsimaelOk, tmaking a rule crashes plasma :D
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21:38.25metaquarxRecently, kde keyboard settings have started to just not do anything. i typically use the uk layout, and it all worked fine until randomly, when i logged in, it defaulted to the us layout. adding/removing it from the "configure layouts" menu doesnt do anything, though the preview works fine. manually setting it via setxkbmap does work, so its not a
21:38.26metaquarxkeyboard issue. any ideas?
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21:40.55metaquarxusing arch. info center says plasma 5.20.3
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22:54.15nhdoes anyone know why the setting in Default Applications for opening links in browser rather than the relevant app disappeared
22:54.34nhso clicking jpeg links opens in browser rather than gwenview
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23:17.29fattywompusMaybe your browser changed the file association?  You should be able to change it back to whatever you want under system settings > applications > file associations no?
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