| 00:01.11 | hyiltiz | Not in the upstream |
| 00:01.50 | CoJaBo | Is there a way to just disable whatever feature is causing plasmashell to access printers? |
| 00:02.00 | CoJaBo | None of the info I can find is newer than ~2014 |
| 00:02.03 | hyiltiz | No idea if launchpad would even forward those to the upstream or if the upstream dev even read/follow up on launchpad |
| 00:02.20 | hyiltiz | Disable the printer kcm |
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| 00:04.01 | hyiltiz | Launchpad is responsible for ubuntu not kde |
| 00:04.36 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma's bugs go to bugs.kde.org, and obviously, Plasma developers don't monitor distributions bugtrackers, that would require 1000 employees xD |
| 00:04.55 | CoJaBo | hyiltiz: How do I disable it? The config file has been moved from where it was when the bug was filed, and I can find nothing else about this on google |
| 00:05.41 | jankusanagi_ | you can disable the printer plasmoid from the system tray settings, or uninstall it (I don't even have it installed) |
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| 00:06.09 | CoJaBo | jankusanagi_: I can't get to the tray settings, plasmashell will not start |
| 00:06.23 | jankusanagi_ | here on Mageia, the package is system-config-printer, IIRC |
| 00:07.04 | jankusanagi_ | hm, maybe it's not that one |
| 00:08.51 | jankusanagi_ | ah no, it's "print-manager" |
| 00:09.20 | jankusanagi_ | that's versioned like the rest of the Release Service stuff, 20.08.2 ATM |
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| 00:20.09 | hyiltiz | yeah print-manager is also the name of the package in Debian (ubuntu should also be) |
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| 00:43.55 | hyiltiz | CoJaBo: you may want to remove all of system-config-printer-common, system-config-printer-udev, print-manager |
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| 03:26.07 | hyiltiz | Any idea how to reset kmail accounts and identities to a fresh state? I want to keep its configs (like autospell, theme etc. the configs that are not account specific) but want to reset the accounts (I tried importing my email accounts from Thunderbird using the migrator but that is giving me accounts that fails to log into yahoo mail and gmail). |
| 03:26.20 | hyiltiz | I may as well start afresh in kmail |
| 03:27.16 | hyiltiz | I tried removing ~/.config/akonadi_imap_* and ~/.config/akonadi/*_imap_* but that just left some other stuff about the accounts still there (maybe in the akonadi mysql db) |
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| 04:36.30 | disillusion | is there any distro with a KDE implementation that runs purely on Wayland, with no X11 stuff, similar to how Fedora and Ubuntu's default Gnome 3 environment is purely Wayland? |
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| 04:37.50 | shrini | hello all, what happened to amarok music player? it is not listed here https://apps.kde.org/en/multimedia |
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| 04:40.18 | shrini | seems Clementine is a fork of amarok |
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| 04:50.18 | disillusion | shrini, amarok doesn't really have enough volunteers to support it and it needs to be updated for modern plasma. Some newer distros don't even have it in their repos anymore. There's been talk of an updated version, but it may be a while. |
| 04:51.22 | disillusion | you have to find a distro with it still in the repos in order to use it. |
| 04:51.59 | disillusion | Ubuntu 18.04 still has it, as does 16.04. |
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| 04:55.41 | disillusion | there are interesting alternatives in the latest snap and flatpak apps, so if you try the latest ubuntu or fedora you can see what the popular music apps are. |
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| 04:57.42 | disillusion | if you use the "software" app which give the snap or flatpak versions of apps |
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| 09:59.24 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.19 and Release Service 20.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
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| 11:06.53 | BluesKaj | Hi all |
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| 12:01.41 | depesz | hi. how can I see list of paths that plasma looks for wallpaper in? I mean the paths that it scans for wallpapers when I go to "Configure Desktop" -> "Wallpaper type == Image" |
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| 12:28.54 | JanKusanagi | you can look at your plasmarc in ~/.config/ |
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| 12:34.33 | depesz | JanKusanagi: it doesn't have any paths to wallpapers. |
| 12:35.07 | JanKusanagi | weird, mine has a list of all the wallpapers I've set over the years |
| 12:35.32 | JanKusanagi | all with full paths |
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| 12:40.45 | depesz | no, no. |
| 12:40.48 | depesz | I need paths to directories |
| 12:41.02 | depesz | as in: where can I put wallpapers, so that plasma will see it on its own |
| 12:41.09 | depesz | i guess one of such paths is /usr/share/wallpapers |
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| 12:41.28 | depesz | but I also assume there are more, specifically, there should be some in $HOME |
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| 13:16.12 | BluesKaj | depesz, i just put some photos that i like into a wallpapers folder in /home used those |
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| 13:16.32 | BluesKaj | and used |
| 13:16.39 | depesz | BluesKaj: yeah, but then you have to "Add image" on each of them. |
| 13:16.50 | depesz | if i understand correctly |
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| 13:17.13 | BluesKaj | yeah, so? |
| 13:17.59 | depesz | I know that it is possible to do it without having to manyally "add image". i just need to find out how. |
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| 13:18.27 | depesz | there is https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=135265 which suggests $HOME/.local/share/wallpapers |
| 13:18.57 | depesz | but I'd like to know where can I find (location of wallpaper dirs) set in sources/config/whatever. |
| 13:20.04 | BluesKaj | de create the folder in your ~/home/user, you should be able to navigate to it in" add image" |
| 13:20.10 | BluesKaj | depesz,^ |
| 13:20.28 | depesz | BluesKaj: i know i can do it. |
| 13:20.34 | depesz | i think you're missing my point. |
| 13:20.41 | depesz | i know how to add some wallpaper. |
| 13:20.53 | BluesKaj | they still show up in ~/.config/ |
| 13:20.55 | depesz | but i want to know what are the locations that plasma/kde is looking for wallpapers |
| 13:20.57 | depesz | aaargh |
| 13:21.14 | depesz | on clean plasma. with NOTHING added. where does plasma look for wallpapers |
| 13:21.27 | depesz | sorr, i don't know if we have language barrier, or i suck at explaining. |
| 13:21.28 | BluesKaj | hidden files in dolphin |
| 13:21.43 | depesz | BluesKaj: sorry, are you trying puropsedly to troll me? |
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| 13:21.57 | BluesKaj | no , of course not |
| 13:22.04 | depesz | at th emoment i'm not sure if you're trollign or are we having language barrier. |
| 13:22.23 | depesz | i want to find a place that lists all directories that plasma is looking for wallpapers. |
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| 13:22.42 | depesz | enabling A"hidden files" in dolphin will nto list me directories that plasma is looking in. |
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| 13:29.44 | BluesKaj | depesz, I have no such file as /home/user/.local/share/wallpapers |
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| 13:32.29 | JanKusanagi | well, the default Plasma wallpaper, and Mageia's wallpaper are installed to /usr/share/wallpapers/ |
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| 13:33.51 | JanKusanagi | also, the "Add image" button allows adding a ton of images at once |
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| 13:48.28 | Bitterblue | 1620 depesz but i want to know what are the locations that plasma/kde is looking for wallpapers <- Perhaps if you can find what file implements this QML thing: org.kde.plasma.wallpapers.image. |
| 13:50.04 | Bitterblue | Ah, I guess it's /usr/lib/qt/qml/org/kde/plasma/wallpapers/image/libplasma_wallpaper_imageplugin.so. |
| 13:50.14 | Bitterblue | Maybe the source code for that can tell you. |
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| 13:56.21 | Bitterblue | depesz: https://github.com/KDE/plasma-workspace/blob/master/wallpapers/image/image.cpp |
| 13:56.54 | JanKusanagi | github.com? yikes |
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| 14:00.21 | JanKusanagi | https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/blob/master/wallpapers/image/image.cpp actual repo, much nicer =) |
| 14:02.02 | Bitterblue | Eh, they're both Javascript monstrosities. |
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| 14:02.42 | JanKusanagi | but one is KDE infrastructure and the other is some corporate proprietary site |
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| 14:03.26 | depesz | Bitterblue: thanks. not sure i understand the code, though |
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| 14:03.55 | Bitterblue | Who does? |
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| 14:04.31 | depesz | Bitterblue: so this leaves me with my problem unanswered :( |
| 14:04.47 | depesz | one would assume ti should be documented somewhere, yet i am unable to find it |
| 14:05.16 | Bitterblue | It's documented in the source code. :) |
| 14:05.18 | Bitterblue | Try #kde-devel. |
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| 14:08.15 | Bitterblue | Or #plasma-devel? |
| 14:08.51 | Bitterblue | There might be clues in the commit history for that file. |
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| 14:10.19 | depesz | plasma-devel has only 3 people in it, i gues it's not really used. |
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| 14:11.55 | JanKusanagi | it's just #plasma |
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| 14:23.57 | michaelis | Hi. Anyone here running Plasma 5 with an Nvidia Optimus GPU? And if so, could you please share with me your configuration files? I just cannot get it to work. I get "Failed to open authorization file /var/run/sddm/{...}". |
| 14:25.02 | JanKusanagi | I don't have that, but do you actually get to SDDM's login screen? |
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| 14:28.38 | michaelis | JanKusanagi: I get it, try to log in with my local user and when I do, it hangs after about 30 seconds. The rotating circle beneath the KDE Plasma icon just stops rotating. |
| 14:29.00 | michaelis | I've tried with both root and local user. |
| 14:30.33 | BluesKaj | michaelis, do you have nvidia-prime installed |
| 14:32.08 | michaelis | BluesKaj: That's a very good question. I use Slackware and there's no such package there. How do I check if it's installed? |
| 14:32.40 | BluesKaj | michaelis, look in your package-manager |
| 14:33.12 | BluesKaj | discover or muon or some such |
| 14:33.26 | michaelis | BluesKaj: Well, there is no such package in there. There is nvidia-kernel and nvidia-driver. |
| 14:35.33 | BluesKaj | optimus uses intel and nvidia gpus afaik , but dunno much about how slackware handles kde/plasmsa drivers for intel and nvidia |
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| 14:44.57 | depesz | hi. to close the loop: Bitterblue , BluesKaj, JanKusanagi: "qtpaths --paths GenericDataLocation" gives list of parents, and in each parent it will look for "wallpapers" directory. |
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| 14:46.49 | Bitterblue | Cool. |
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| 14:51.12 | BluesKaj | heh, i don't use default wallpapers anyway :-) |
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| 14:56.26 | jakejake | I'm running Debian 8.11 (with kernel 4.15.0) and KDE 4.14.2. I'm running into an issue with Plymouth showing the splash screen on shutdown...when using the /sbin/halt command, I see a flicker of the splash screen and then it goes straight to the kernel messages, however, if I use turn off from the KDE menu, I see the splash screen as expected. |
| 15:00.41 | JanKusanagi | wow, Plasma 4... good times xD |
| 15:01.25 | JanKusanagi | not sure your question is related to Plasma, but sounds like a question for Debian channels... assuming Debian 8 is still supported xD |
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| 15:09.11 | jakejake | :) yes, it's an oldie but a goodie...I've managed to get it working on one of the newer Thinkpads (L14), but this is the last quirk standing in the way. I'll give the Debian channel a try, thanks!! |
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| 15:17.58 | Bitterblue | Surely there's a dbus incantation to invoke Plasma's shutdown procedure. |
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| 15:51.48 | jakejake | I tried the following: qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 0 0 ,but I get a "Could not connect to D-Bus server" error |
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| 16:37.56 | ice9 | what does the "Gnome/gtk settings synchronization service" do and how to stop it? |
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| 16:46.40 | JanKusanagi | syncs Qt style settings, color schemes and such, with the GTK config files, so programs using both frameworks look as much the same as possible, after any change to your settings |
| 16:46.54 | JanKusanagi | you can stop it from Background services, in Plasma's system settings |
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| 16:59.46 | adremides | Hi |
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| 17:04.39 | JanKusanagi | o/ |
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| 17:08.39 | adremides | Is it the forum active? I wrote there a couple of weeks ago, but nobody answer :) |
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| 17:09.32 | JanKusanagi | I guess it depends on a lot of things |
| 17:09.41 | JanKusanagi | AFAIK, forum.kde.org is plenty active |
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| 17:16.33 | adremides | Well... then I just have to keep waiting to someone who may be insterested in the topic can answer... it is about Gwenview |
| 17:16.47 | JanKusanagi | you could ask here... |
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| 17:51.32 | adremides | Fine. I ask the question here. How can I make Gwenview exit the view of the image with ESC key, instead it open the library. Is there a way can I ask for that feature somehow if it doesn't have it? |
| 17:53.02 | JanKusanagi | what do you want to happen when you press Esc? |
| 17:54.21 | JanKusanagi | and regardless: have you looked at the keyboard shortcuts configuration? |
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| 17:57.08 | adremides | JanKusanagi I saw the shorcuts but now you remind me about that I looked again and I see these specifically can be changed!! I didn't notice it last time! |
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| 17:58.40 | adremides | It works perfect changing the ESC key to quit function instead navigation. Thank you very much for the hint |
| 17:58.49 | JanKusanagi | yw |
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| 18:04.47 | jasom | So I noticed that when I play media in firefox, I get a little icon in the system tray, and play/pause on my keyboard now controls it. This is cool. I'd like to add this feature to another media player, but I'm strugging to figure out what interface(s) KDE supports for this, much less which one firefox uses. Anyone have a useful term for me to google? |
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| 18:07.46 | JanKusanagi | that's the MPRIS standard |
| 18:08.02 | JanKusanagi | I wouldn't use Google, but still xD |
| 18:08.32 | jasom | JanKusanagi; okay cmus already has some mpris support, I wonder which particular feature is missing to get it in my system-tra |
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| 19:05.39 | jasom | grawity: thanks, I just figured it out; the version of cmus I had had mpris disabled, but there is no visible indication that it is disabled (doesn't show up in plugins or --version or anything, and enabling "mpris" in options succeeds). |
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| 20:02.33 | madprops | hmm why is File Search enabled again by itself? |
| 20:02.45 | madprops | i thought i disabled that |
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| 20:12.59 | madprops | seems i need to disable baloo through balooctl but that shouldn't be necessary if i change it in settings |
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| 22:42.41 | lsd|2_ | https://i.ibb.co/sKj554D/strip.png |
| 22:42.56 | lsd|2_ | how to adjust that strip |
| 22:43.12 | lsd|2_ | i have itself kde as dark breeze + theme in chromium |
| 22:43.14 | lsd|2_ | but that bastard still is bright |
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| 22:45.58 | lsd|2_ | so question is where is a problem in kde or in chromium? |
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| 23:11.23 | JanKusanagi | do you have any other GTK program with scrollbars? |
| 23:11.36 | JanKusanagi | I'd say it's probably not Plasma's fault, but you can check with that |
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| 23:34.48 | JustLandedOnMars | hi |
| 23:34.54 | JustLandedOnMars | what is baloo_file_extr for ? |
| 23:35.20 | JustLandedOnMars | I noticed when use console and create some files in home directory, even just doing "echo 123 > test" there is some harddrive activity going on, it doesn't happen if I create file elsewhere, like in /tmp or other places, so I think there is some kind of "handy" process running that maybe "indexing" files for "convenience", and I don't like that sound of harddrive activity, can it be disabled ? |
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| 23:45.49 | JanKusanagi | yes, Baloo can be disabled |
| 23:46.01 | JanKusanagi | just search for "File Search" in Plasma's system settings |
| 23:47.58 | JustLandedOnMars | thanks |
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| 23:51.08 | JanKusanagi | yw |
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