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| 05:38.48 | matty_r | G'day all, i'm trying to replace the default application menu with one of the alternatives through the terminal. I'd like to add it as part of a script. I've tried editing ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc directly but it doesn't work as expected |
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| 07:14.40 | how2connact | helo is kde gud like REAL good or what |
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| 07:57.27 | Lucretia | Hi, I installed KDE 5.20 yesterday and I cannot get zoom to work, also alt+shift+f12 no longer re-enables compositing, the shortcuts in settings says it turns it off. |
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| 09:01.21 | tenzap | Hello, is it possible to configure email account with OAuth2 in kmail2 ? |
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| 12:20.17 | BluesKaj | Hi all |
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| 12:59.15 | Kason_ | Best music player? |
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| 13:07.39 | sigNeon | Kason_: they claim Elisa, but since I subscribe to google-play-music I use youtube music app which you can as a snap. |
| 13:07.42 | sigNeon | https://snapcraft.io/youtube-music-desktop-app |
| 13:09.12 | Kason_ | sigNeon: I was using Google Play until they forced me onto YT. Google was fine but I hate YT for music so I used Takeout to grab all my music and now looking for something else. |
| 13:09.57 | sigNeon | I've got it configured niceley |
| 13:10.18 | Kason_ | Elisa drags in VLC. A petty peeve maybe but if I can't find anything else I like then I'll try it. |
| 13:10.39 | Kason_ | Why did Arch move Amarok to the AUR? |
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| 13:16.15 | sigNeon | Kason_: https://ibb.co/g7LY2zG |
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| 13:18.46 | Kason_ | yeah it's pretty. I liked Google Play Music but kinda glad they ditched as I usually prefer free software |
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| 13:19.18 | Kason_ | Clementine is really nice. liking it the most of anything so far |
| 13:20.59 | sigNeon | I don't use any of those apps, all my music is digital now so youtube-desktop-player is the most reasonable for me |
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| 13:28.28 | jankusanagi_ | digital doesn't necessarily mean "in remote servers" =) |
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| 13:34.35 | sigNeon | jankusanagi_: heh, I've got gigs of music on a drive but I can access them all through online streaming so for me using clementine or elise is pointless and wastes space. |
| 13:35.16 | jankusanagi_ | regardless, digital doesn't imply "online" or "remote" :p |
| 13:35.32 | jankusanagi_ | just a clarification |
| 13:36.16 | sigNeon | true |
| 13:36.25 | sigNeon | but I can also download for offline use |
| 13:36.33 | Kason_ | things are moving that way though. space is free essentially but things are moving into the cloud and people are letting them for convenience's sake |
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| 13:42.18 | jankusanagi_ | all I'm saying is that "digital" doesn't mean remote, or online, so the argument of "my music is digital so...", is not valid [/offtopic] |
| 13:42.38 | jankusanagi_ | and the only cloud I care about is the one that brings rain =) |
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| 14:05.18 | Cork | is there anyway to make kde always play a sound when a notification happens? |
| 14:05.43 | Cork | i can't only find overrides for kde applications, but if it isn't a kde application there isn't any override so no sound?!? |
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| 14:17.35 | jankusanagi_ | I don't think Plasma's notifications have an event attached to them |
| 14:17.50 | jankusanagi_ | if there was one, it would be under the Plasma Workspace component, I guess |
| 14:18.07 | jankusanagi_ | but that would be interesting, because the event would be able to then emit another notification about the notification xD |
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| 14:20.00 | Cork | jankusanagi_: Notification exists in Plasma Workspace (just found it) and it has a sound but it doesn't play... |
| 14:21.02 | jankusanagi_ | there's an item called "Notifications", but it means something else |
| 14:21.12 | jankusanagi_ | something much, much older than "popup notifications" =) |
| 14:21.20 | Cork | jankusanagi_: for ref if you want to test is i'm trying to get something like "notify-send "test"" to play a sound |
| 14:21.28 | Cork | ah |
| 14:21.51 | jankusanagi_ | you can always make a feature request at bugs.kde.org |
| 14:22.19 | Cork | ya, if it really doesn't exist, just find that a bit surpisin |
| 14:22.22 | Cork | +g |
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| 14:34.32 | rindolf | hi all! how can i close notification windows using the keyboard? i have one since more than 3 hours ago (fedora 33 beta; plasma5) |
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| 14:39.28 | rindolf | this does not bode well: https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/6he95l/clicking_on_notification_popups_used_to_dismiss/ :( |
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| 14:45.28 | rindolf | jankusanagi_: hi, any idea? |
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| 14:46.55 | jankusanagi_ | I doubt you can do that via keyboard |
| 14:47.10 | jankusanagi_ | since you'd need a way to actually get keyboard focus to a specific notification |
| 14:48.18 | rindolf | jankusanagi_: so i have to use the mouse? |
| 14:49.19 | jankusanagi_ | you can restart plasmashell =) |
| 14:49.37 | jankusanagi_ | or talk to org.freedesktop.Notifications via D-Bus, maybe |
| 14:49.48 | rindolf | jankusanagi_: ah |
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| 16:40.46 | thiago | alt+dragging to move and resize disappeared after my upgrade last night. Anyone aware of these kwin isses? |
| 16:41.41 | thiago | ah, it moved to meta |
| 16:42.20 | jankusanagi_ | after just upgrading? upgrading didn't change that here, thankfully =) |
| 16:45.11 | thiago | just upgrading |
| 16:45.21 | thiago | this was working last week (muscle memory) and it isn't today |
| 16:45.27 | thiago | I upgrade tumbleweed every Sunday |
| 16:46.11 | thiago | [RPM][1040513]: erase kwin5-5.19.5-1.2.x86_64: success |
| 16:46.18 | thiago | [RPM][1040513]: install kwin5-5.20.0-1.1.x86_64: success |
| 16:47.02 | akik | hey let's change things for "reasons" |
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| 16:50.34 | jankusanagi_ | well, they have reasons |
| 16:50.46 | jankusanagi_ | I don't think those justify changing such a long-standing default, but... |
| 16:51.06 | thiago | other global shortcuts have changed in the past from Alt to Meta |
| 16:51.16 | jankusanagi_ | at least you can easily change it back, assuming your installation changed to that new default, which it shouldn't |
| 16:51.20 | jankusanagi_ | mine didn't change |
| 16:51.23 | thiago | there's a long-running trend to move global shortcuts to using Meta, because apps don't usually use them |
| 16:51.31 | thiago | I hope no one thinks of changing Alt+Tab though |
| 16:51.36 | thiago | or Alt+F1 through F4 |
| 16:51.58 | jankusanagi_ | well, Alt+tab is a thing in the almighty mswindows world, so that one's safe =) |
| 16:52.06 | akik | another one was changing behind which vt the gui was |
| 16:52.09 | akik | useless changes |
| 16:52.10 | thiago | right, I think it changed to the new default because this isn't a setting I'd ever set |
| 16:52.21 | thiago | akik: hmm? |
| 16:52.21 | jankusanagi_ | akik: that has zero to do with Plasma |
| 16:52.26 | akik | still |
| 16:52.37 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma doesn't choose what tty your X session is in |
| 16:52.46 | thiago | SDDM, maybe |
| 16:53.14 | thiago | I see a getty on tty1 and X is running on tty7 here |
| 16:53.19 | thiago | no change then |
| 16:53.25 | akik | alt+tab should be f8+§ |
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| 21:01.56 | SpeakerToMeat | Hello all. |
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| 21:03.04 | SpeakerToMeat | Question, for kwin (5.14.5), is the setting for task switching "filter windows by" the same for all switching visualizations? |
| 21:04.54 | SpeakerToMeat | I ask because I would like to activate "Filter windows by" -> "Virtual Desktops" -> "Current Desktop", but only for switching "Current Application" windows and not for "All Windows".. it's not possible, is it? |
| 21:05.45 | zombiefox | SpeakerToMeat: you could use the alternative for one of them |
| 21:05.53 | zombiefox | there should be a second tab at the top |
| 21:06.05 | SpeakerToMeat | Ah, hmmm |
| 21:06.30 | SpeakerToMeat | And then, I disabel the "Current application" shortcuts, and set them in alternative? |
| 21:06.34 | zombiefox | yep |
| 21:06.39 | SpeakerToMeat | That's nice! |
| 21:06.42 | zombiefox | it is |
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| 21:09.41 | SpeakerToMeat | Sigh I really need to learn how to use activities. |
| 21:10.29 | zombiefox | virtual desktops are fine, too :) |
| 21:10.52 | SpeakerToMeat | I'm using 8 virtual desktops now :D |
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| 21:11.04 | SpeakerToMeat | But with Activities I could do some extra nice switching |
| 21:11.22 | SpeakerToMeat | I wonder, can I use "Window Rules", to set a Window's activity based on the desktop it's in? |
| 21:12.31 | SpeakerToMeat | Hmmm no, it's not a rule i can use there |
| 21:12.59 | zombiefox | there are some plans to merge these two things, I guess you could check with the vdg about them |
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| 21:14.10 | SpeakerToMeat | zombiefox, I use Debain, if they get merged I'll see the effect in about 2032 |
| 21:14.24 | zombiefox | ah, yeah |
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| 21:14.43 | zombiefox | or by using unstable or a ppa, but then you could use a different distribution to start with |
| 21:15.11 | zombiefox | anyway, I'm off to bed :) |
| 21:15.46 | SpeakerToMeat | See you |
| 21:15.50 | SpeakerToMeat | Thanks |
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| 21:40.47 | DarwinElf | help! Do I need to do full system erase/reinstall?! |
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| 21:48.08 | two_dogs | DarwinElf: why? |
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| 21:57.34 | bryanpedini | Since I don't know if there is better place (kde-subchannel), I'll ask here first: is there a way to set KDE on Debian 10 Buster, to remember the screen a window was put on, yet not the position (obey to the "centered" setting in "Window Behavior"->"Advanced")? |
| 21:57.34 | bryanpedini | Thanks in advace! |
| 21:58.11 | jankusanagi_ | you could use Plasma's Window Rules |
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| 21:58.28 | bryanpedini | (screen -> multiple monitor for me, in case somebody calls "screens" the virtual desktops or something else) |
| 21:59.31 | bryanpedini | @jankusanagi_ tried "Window Rules"->"new rule"->"Size & Position"->"Screen"->"Remember" (but can't understand (since it doesn't make any difference) what the number next means), also, doesn't work unfortunately... |
| 22:02.05 | bryanpedini | nm, I'm half an idiot, it works with "normal" windows, yet now I don't understand why the "System Settings" app don't obey to that rule (no other rule is in place) |
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| 22:04.38 | woodwose | does anyone have a script to show the number of unread mails with akonadi resources/kmail? |
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| 22:07.38 | SpeakerToMeat | Question, is there any way to save the current window possitions of all programs running so they open in the same virtual desktop when run again? |
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| 22:11.59 | bryanpedini | @SpeakerToMeat Window rule in "Window Management" setting |
| 22:12.16 | SpeakerToMeat | Ok |
| 22:12.28 | SpeakerToMeat | I'll check. Thanks |
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| 22:19.01 | DarwinElf | two_dogs, all my folder icons changed to help icons (not just in Dolphin but maybe any program's open dialog box) |
| 22:19.17 | DarwinElf | there's no option! (to change back) so erase? |
| 22:20.25 | Mamarok | DarwinElf: what did you change? |
| 22:20.27 | two_dogs | DarwinElf: your theme was changed? |
| 22:21.05 | two_dogs | DarwinElf: what distro? what kde version? installed how? |
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| 22:40.18 | mefistofeles | found out that latest plasma upgrade somehow messes up with my virtualbox GUI (I cannot click or navigate some things) |
| 22:40.23 | mefistofeles | it only happens in KDE/plasma |
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| 22:43.04 | jankusanagi_ | O_o |
| 22:43.30 | jankusanagi_ | how would Plasma affect some parts of the interior of VirtualBox's UI? |
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| 22:53.58 | DarwinElf | nothing |
| 22:54.02 | DarwinElf | i didn't change a thing |
| 22:54.35 | DarwinElf | alienBOB's packages called KDE5, quasi-official for Slackware64 14.2 |
| 22:54.39 | DarwinElf | KTown/KDE5 |
| 22:55.42 | DarwinElf | well, 14.2 and 14-current. P5.19.4, frameworks 5.72, Qt 5.15.1 |
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| 23:07.46 | mefistofeles | jankusanagi_: yeah, beats me, but that's what's happening :/ maybe it's Qt and I just found out |
| 23:07.57 | mefistofeles | jankusanagi_: but as I said, it only happens with plasma |
| 23:08.07 | mefistofeles | with i3 (the wm) it works fine |
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| 23:18.03 | jankusanagi_ | hm... what's your Qt widget style? |
| 23:19.25 | jankusanagi_ | Oxygen, and probably Breeze, have a "Windows drag mode" setting that can be set to "drag from empty areas" |
| 23:19.43 | jankusanagi_ | that could be messing with something custom VB does |
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| 23:29.30 | Mamarok | DarwinElf: you must have changed something, what did you do before the change happened? Updated or installed something, modified a setting? Changes do not just happen out of the blue |
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| 23:29.46 | Mamarok | and icon changes means an icon theme was changed |
| 23:29.57 | Mamarok | check in SystemSettings |
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