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| 01:53.55 | kantlivelong | is kio-fuse considered stable? |
| 01:54.14 | kantlivelong | im thinking not as i dont see it in neon yet |
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| 02:31.25 | DarwinElf | i'd love to see KDE on Open Solaris Unix/IllumOS. Some programmers said it's even more stable than *BSD Unix... |
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| 02:45.53 | psyk | hey guys. i looked around features for korganizer/kontact but not seeing any time tracking solution.. there is ktimetracker but .. is it deprecated ? there is no way to track time spent on tasks? is this true? is there a time tracker for tasks that works well within korganizer if it doesn't come with it? |
| 02:50.25 | Jucato | i don't think ktimetracker is deprecated though. but i haven't used it to know enough if it will fit your needs |
| 02:50.52 | luisbalaguer1998 | Hi |
| 02:52.50 | Jucato | there's also https://github.com/KDAB/Charm it seems but i have no idea if it integrates with kde pim stuff |
| 02:55.51 | psyk | Jucato, i just can't find anything about it in the docs... some place said it was old. just wondering if anyone knows - i need some time tracker and it would be nice to use all the other features of korganizer/etc suite |
| 02:58.21 | Jucato | psyk: the last release was just December 2019 https://kde.org/applications/en/office/org.kde.ktimetracker so it's not exactly that old (and even if it were old, it doesn't mean it's broken or not usable, just that it hasn't gotten new features or it's just that stable and complete for now). |
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| 02:59.19 | Jucato | docs are here https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/extragear-pim/ktimetracker/index.html |
| 02:59.32 | psyk | Jucato, so it's still part of the kontact suite?!? |
| 03:00.32 | Jucato | should be i think |
| 03:01.03 | Jucato | well at least it's under the KDE PIM group. not sure if it integrates with kontact or not sorry |
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| 03:02.41 | psyk | hmmm wish i could find out if it's part of kdepim-meta |
| 03:03.51 | Jucato | that will actually depend on how your distro defines and packages a -meta. As far as upstream KDE is concerned, there's no such thing as a kdepim-meta |
| 03:04.03 | Luis_Balaguer-M | does anyone here need help with QML? |
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| 09:02.52 | neobrain | Where can I configure the first day of the week (Sunday vs Monday) shown on the task bar's calendar widget? |
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| 09:05.06 | neobrain | (I'm in Germany running an English locale, which apparently makes plasma default to Sunday) |
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| 09:13.42 | adam-M | neobrain: I think you can go to System Settings -> Regional Settings ->Format (i hope that's the english name), and then tick the details checkbox and just set the Time to something else |
| 09:15.36 | neobrain | adam-M: it appears the first-day-of-week is not part of that :/ |
| 09:15.49 | neobrain | (haven't relogged in but just restarted plasmashell, assuming that's good enough for testing the change) |
| 09:16.18 | adam-M | neobrain: I think you can go to System Settings -> Regional Settings ->Format (i hope that's the english name), and then tick the details checkbox and just set the Time to something else |
| 09:16.45 | akik | :P |
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| 09:19.56 | neobrain | (in case that wasn't accidental, Time did not change the first-day-of-week :p) |
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| 09:20.24 | neobrain | It's weird because I have another PC with similar configuration where it does display Monday as first day though |
| 09:22.06 | milian | neobrain: right click on the clock, select "Set Time Format" and then use "Region: Deutschland". that's what I have, and weeks start on monday for me |
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| 09:22.16 | milian | the rest is in english |
| 09:23.11 | neobrain | milian: ... starting to believe I'm hitting a bug here, since that doesn't change it either (tried UK too, which is the one my other PC uses) |
| 09:23.35 | milian | or it's a different setting somewhere better hidden that I forgot about :) |
| 09:23.41 | neobrain | hehe |
| 09:24.10 | neobrain | I've got LC_ALL set to en_US, maybe that's what's throwing it off |
| 09:24.25 | milian | I have `LC_ALL=` (i.e. empty) |
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| 09:25.13 | milian | and the rest is all de_DE.UTF-8, apparently |
| 09:25.21 | alexkde | LC_ALL overwrrites all other localization settings |
| 09:25.36 | neobrain | milian: "the rest" being LANG and LANGUAGE? |
| 09:25.43 | milian | LANG and LC_* |
| 09:25.52 | milian | LANGUAGE is en_US |
| 09:25.59 | milian | (I looked at the outupt of locale only) |
| 09:27.41 | neobrain | woo, resetting LC_ALL to empty did it |
| 09:30.05 | neobrain | I also had an issue where the time widget would print the date in too big letters, seems that randomly just got fixed by that change too |
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| 09:31.20 | neobrain | I originall had LC_ALL set because otherwise unicode wouldn't display properly in my terminal, which it appears now isn't required anymore. Weird |
| 09:32.29 | shtrb | Something very odd had happen to my plasma , and it looks amazing all of sudden. Is there a way I can export all the settings and save them to reproduce the same view on other machines ? |
| 09:33.47 | shtrb | All fonts look and feel nice , GTKs apps have the exact view I like . I don't wish to just copy .config / .kde folders and whished to have a nicer way to transfer the UI settings to other accounts (even on the same machine) |
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| 10:27.09 | alexkde | shtrb, I htink you look for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=240862 |
| 10:28.58 | shtrb | alexkde, they describe coping .kde (you also need .config for some) which I wished to avoid in the first place . |
| 10:35.04 | alexkde | maybe you should open another bug report to track this issue, which sounds kinda usefule to me :) |
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| 10:36.52 | shtrb | btw , I have no idea what had made one user setting look amazing , while other users still don't have the same look and feel |
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| 11:15.45 | rindolf | shtrb: hi, sup? |
| 11:16.09 | shtrb | rindolf, all great and sweaty , you ? |
| 11:17.05 | wernerm-M | Hello, I have a question about Dolphin, please |
| 11:17.21 | shtrb | !asl |
| 11:17.24 | shtrb | !ask |
| 11:18.01 | rindolf | shtrb: my pull req to rust coreutils was closed: https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/pull/1453 - it was useful as a prototype though |
| 11:18.23 | rindolf | wernerm-M: https://dontasktoask.com/ |
| 11:18.45 | wernerm-M | Thx :) |
| 11:18.46 | wernerm-M | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:18.46 | wernerm-M | I use fish:// in Dolphin to connect to severs. This works fine. However now I have to connect to servers that are using two-factor authentication (libpam-google-authenticator). Is that supported via the fish protocol at all? |
| 11:19.09 | shtrb | rindolf, why not using sort |tail or sort| head -n ? |
| 11:19.31 | rindolf | shtrb: it is more wasteful |
| 11:19.55 | shtrb | wernerm-M, not a dolphin issue actually but you can have it via a script (there was a script some time for google that handle the interaction with your phone SMS ) |
| 11:20.44 | rindolf | shtrb: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation |
| 11:22.20 | shtrb | fyi : O(n) + O(n) = O(n) |
| 11:22.55 | rindolf | shtrb: O(n)? |
| 11:23.25 | rindolf | shtrb: sort is O(n logn) time and O(n) space |
| 11:23.27 | shtrb | for simplicitly I claimed your complexcly would be n and not (what I assume) n log n |
| 11:23.57 | rindolf | shtrb: simplicity? |
| 11:23.58 | shtrb | O( n log(n) ) = O (2n log (n) ) |
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| 11:24.12 | shtrb | *sorry typo |
| 11:24.18 | wernerm-M | shtrb: Thanks, I'll have a look around for that |
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| 11:25.11 | shtrb | wernerm-M, I don't know the case of the new NFCs 2FA but only the SMS ones |
| 11:25.12 | rindolf | shtrb: thing is sort --head is O(n + p*log(p)) time and O(p) space |
| 11:25.35 | rindolf | shtrb: thing is sort --head "$p" is O(n + p*log(p)) time and O(p) space |
| 11:26.08 | shtrb | rindolf, for what I understand your solution is equivalent not better not worse (complexity wise) |
| 11:26.25 | rindolf | shtrb: i think you are wrong |
| 11:26.40 | shtrb | Perhaps , could be |
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| 11:27.56 | rindolf | shtrb: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heap_%28data_structure%29 |
| 11:28.32 | rindolf | well it may be O(n + n*log(p)) |
| 11:29.04 | rindolf | but if n >>> p - it is better |
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| 11:45.30 | shtrb | rindolf, from what I remember a constant in O() does not have any meaning in such case, both of your cases are logarithmically bound, but I think we should take that to #math and not here :) |
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| 11:46.46 | rindolf | shtrb: ok. |
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| 13:55.17 | BluesKaj | Hi all |
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| 15:21.16 | shtrb | To close my and rindolf discussions , rindolf was correct and I was wrong |
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| 15:23.13 | rindolf | shtrb: https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/show.cgi?id=sharp-perl-using-your-experience-points ;) |
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| 16:17.45 | cosimone | hello everyone, anyone else here experiencing baloo_file_extractor constantly crashing after updating to plasma 5.19.5? |
| 16:31.56 | kab0m | I have two simple questions. 1) Why isn't there a builtin way in palsma/dolphin to mount und unmount iso files? 2) Why isn't there a simple builtin gui way to create disk and partition images in KDE-Partitionmanager? Aren't this two standard things that every desktop environment should be capable of doing by default? |
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| 16:37.05 | JanKusanagi | why should that be built in? probably only 1% of users would want int |
| 16:37.08 | JanKusanagi | *it |
| 16:37.22 | JanKusanagi | and they probably know how to install tools to do it |
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| 16:42.05 | kab0m | JanKusanagi Every user i know, wants to simply just mount iso files from the file explorer of choice to mount them. Like in the most used operatings systems Windows and macOS...its the default, and everyone knows how it works...then they come to KDEs plasma and get confused. This are real world problems everyone i recommend KDE Neon is asking me. |
| 16:42.22 | kab0m | *click iso files to mount them |
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| 16:43.22 | JanKusanagi | funny, most people I know don't even know that an ISO is |
| 16:43.39 | JanKusanagi | *what |
| 16:45.16 | kab0m | JanKusanagi that makes no sense cause at least when they want to install the distro they have to know what a ISO file is. |
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| 16:50.48 | tupubozu | true, most users of kde would probably know about disk images already. could it that the current code base is incompatible with such an expansion? |
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| 17:05.56 | Bitterblue | Looks like you can download "services" to add this functionality to Dolphin. |
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| 17:07.25 | kab0m | Bitterblue yes, but the "services" addon is bloated, can not be installed from the KDE addons dialog and is hard to find for new users. also Services dont mount every ISO files, i had problems mounting some isos, but i cant recall what the problem was |
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| 17:09.07 | kab0m | Bitterblue If users are accustomed to mount/unmount ISO files simply via double click from windows,macOS, GNOME etc they also expect this from plasma. |
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| 17:16.29 | Bitterblue | Okay. |
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| 17:28.43 | demm | kab0m: https://invent.kde.org/sdk/dolphin-plugins, not so hard to find, really |
| 17:29.07 | demm | and only 2 MiB installed |
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| 17:37.38 | kab0m | demm Thanks for the link ;) does this plugi have to be compiled frst before it can be used? |
| 17:38.30 | shtrb | demm, does that plugin should provide mount iso files in dolphin ? |
| 17:38.32 | demm | kab0m: your distro should have it packaged, it is part of the regular release services, currently at 20.08.1 |
| 17:38.38 | demm | yes |
| 17:38.43 | demm | shtrb: ^ |
| 17:39.33 | demm | and many distros will list it as an option to use with dolphin, or add it as a default install |
| 17:39.41 | shtrb | I have it, I right click on an iso , but I don't see any option for iso mount :-( |
| 17:40.09 | shtrb | I have extract , but nothing like mount :-( (or can't find one) |
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| 17:42.23 | shtrb | demm, or was it added only in a recent version because at the debian I don't see mounting iso adverised in the description (only git, bzr etc) |
| 17:43.08 | demm | see option here https://i.paste.pics/7456bb00e76fe720ba99f89457b6fc8f.png |
| 17:43.32 | shtrb | I don't have that :-( , I guess debian have too old version :-( |
| 17:43.57 | nikunjgoyal | which channel should be joined by manjaro distro developers in kde irc channels |
| 17:43.59 | kab0m | shtrb demm it was added in version 20.08 |
| 17:44.14 | kab0m | the version from my repo is 20.04 |
| 17:44.19 | demm | https://invent.kde.org/sdk/dolphin-plugins/-/commit/f7f2f62606f8cfa87ec23d5924b70d4b419234e1 |
| 17:44.22 | shtrb | Well that explain's it , debian testing has only 20.04 |
| 17:44.55 | shtrb | we need collectivally send treats to distro mainters to bribe them to deliver 20.08 |
| 17:45.57 | kab0m | shtrb to be honest, this should be built into plasma or at least be installed by default, for example in KDE NEON which is their plasma distro |
| 17:47.09 | kab0m | but i dont know enough about distro development to know where or who to contact about stuff like this ð¤·ââï¸ |
| 17:47.47 | shtrb | At debian and ubuntu it would be enough to open a bug against dolphin to requrie it as a dependency |
| 17:48.34 | shtrb | right now it's Suggests: dolphin-plugins |
| 17:48.51 | kab0m | ok |
| 17:51.22 | kab0m | does any has kde neon 20.04 installed and can tell me what the version of dolphin-plugins is? |
| 17:57.29 | davidv7 | anyone got the qdbus call to display all windows? |
| 17:57.33 | davidv7 | i've bee looking everywhere |
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| 18:00.16 | davidv7 | and i can't seem to figure out toggleEffect or loadEffect in org.kde.KWin Effects/org.kde.kwin.Effects loadEffect working |
| 18:00.21 | davidv7 | nothing i put in there does it |
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| 18:21.26 | thresh | hi. I'm on debian testing with konsole 4:20.08.0-1, and every time there is a bell in my terminal, I have this bell icon rendered on a tab. that's fine, but it seems it is slightly higher than the tab height when it's not shown, which results in all my terminal text getting scrolled a few pixels down. |
| 18:21.37 | thresh | is that a known bug? how do I disable the bell icon? |
| 18:21.50 | thresh | normal: https://i.imgur.com/DSeR2ZM.png |
| 18:21.56 | thresh | with a bell: https://i.imgur.com/kTgMQ9C.png |
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| 19:56.46 | panorain | openSUSE with Dan mcmann Rolllls.... |
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| 20:00.32 | peanutbutterandc | Hey there, is $KDEDIR still used to set KDE DIR? |
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