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00:44.36JanKusanagiI'll assume you have some free space there...
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01:40.28centi-Msent a long message: < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/kde.modular.im/684441719b571f3fbb47151c92bed7fb118a190e/message.txt >
01:43.45centi-MAlso this article is good to expound further on #3: https://www.rdeeson.com/weblog/176/how-to-rollback-a-system-update-on-arch-linux
01:43.45centi-MYou can roll back the bad packages
01:43.51centi-MAnd retain functionality of your Arch Linux install
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02:39.16win8linux-MAre there any KDE apps that can write ISO or IMG files to discs or drives?
02:39.33win8linux-M<PROTECTED>
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04:37.50faxing-MJust use Balena Etcher
04:37.53faxing-MIf that's what you mean
04:38.36faxing-MI've never had any problems, it works on almost any system, it takes zero technical knowledge to use, and it's pretty fast.
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04:44.55rydenhola
04:48.59PanoramixHi
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04:52.38PanoramixCan I ask the best way to make certain Balena Etcher has a valid md5r or sha256sum on the github page?
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06:34.09nate48423denaro and the american government is getting my human brain and i go through things like no sleep, not comprehending, changing taste of food. please tell your world leaders i dont want amaerica to get my human brain and its serious terrorism going on in the country with denaro chips inside of people
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06:52.50shtrbShould kdeconnect be able to make calls over Bluetooth ?
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07:06.42shantaramhi, is there a way to make konsole windows pseudo-transparent? I just wanna see the wallpaper in my background
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07:07.55shantaramI'm on Arch Linux (well, Endeavour) and my plasma version is 5.19.4
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07:15.35Jucatoright-click inside, select Edit Current Profile, click the button of the current selected/applied profile, there's a slider for Background transparency
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07:16.18shantaramJucato: i want pseudo-transparency
07:16.32shantaramwhere it always shows the wallpaper
07:17.00Jucatoah, you mean like no matter what window is underneath? it will still show the background? not sure that's possible
07:17.23Jucatoyou can set a background image though
07:17.47shantaramJucato: nah the background image won't scale or anything
07:17.50shantaramlooks terrible
07:19.06Jucatoyeah sorry. no idea about that
07:20.05shantaramthanks anyway
07:20.27xyquadratshantaram: It worked 21 years ago: https://invent.kde.org/utilities/konsole/-/commit/941efa1ff114f26c8bef395476b28f58b730337a
07:20.41shantaramxyquadrat: that's what i found too :P
07:21.51swarfegawow 21 years ago
07:22.14shantaram̶t̶i̶m̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶r̶e̶c̶o̶m̶p̶i̶l̶e̶ ̶k̶o̶n̶s̶o̶l̶e̶
07:22.35shantaramswarfega: presumably it was replaced with true transparency
07:24.03swarfegayea
07:24.10swarfegaand i wouldnt follow anything that old
07:24.14Jucatoeven if you recompiled, i doubt it would work today. quick look, it's based on the X11 "root" window way of having a wallpaper/background. which is, afaik, not how plasma does wallpapers
07:25.28shantaramJucato: that makes sense, nitrogen also does not work for the same reason
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07:25.41shantarami was kidding though im not gonna recompile
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07:26.47Jucatoyou could try filing for a wishlist report, maybe it will gain some interest. though not exactly sure how feasible it will be
07:27.52Tuorhi, I  can save a search in KFind, but can I load a saved search after saving it?
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07:44.59shtrbOuf , how do I answer a call in kdeconnect ?
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08:37.54shtrbany kdeconnect users here ?
08:45.36goodgershtrb: I use kde connect, but not to answer calls
08:46.13shtrbbut do you even have an option how to answer a call ? (when you get a call)
08:46.24shtrbI only got the option to mute the call
08:47.18shtrbAnd a second question , if you have Wifi-calling by your operator , do you get the messages while you are over WiFi Calling and not 4G connection ?
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08:53.02goodgercan't answer either of those, sorry
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09:21.47shtrbgoodger, thank you anyway
09:21.57shtrbsorry just seen you rmessage now
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09:42.39mkoncekdoes Gwenview have no option of copying the current image to clipboard?
09:43.22mkoncek... seems like plain ctrl-c does it
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09:50.18goodgermkoncek: Edit → Copy
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12:03.22shtrbHow do can I get dolphin's actuall error (got messaage missing protocol but I need to have little bit more info to duck around it )
12:03.41shtrb*bluetooth access to a mobile phone
12:05.26shtrbOh , it's even better it only fail if you open via dolphon , but works ok if you click on browse files from the bluetooth qt widgest
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12:09.17BitterblueDoes anyone really know how Bluetooth works?
12:09.36shtrbI guess someone do , but here it's a UI problem
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12:10.09shtrbBitterblue, I used to understand how it worked in the past(not anymore )
12:10.33BitterblueMaybe I should say how the Linux Bluetooth "stack" works...
12:10.47shtrbWhy would you do that to yourself ?
12:11.02noob8650Bitterblue: The guys that know their way through the literally 5000 pages of documentation maybe. ;)
12:11.16noob8650And that's just the standard definition.
12:12.06BitterblueWhere is all the documentation?
12:12.24Bitterblue*that
12:12.45shtrbWhat do you wish to actually learn ?
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12:15.59noob8650Bitterblue: It was more of a joke, I had a document once where they listed a ton of details about the specification. Can't find it, I think I had to make an account on their page or something. Here's a brief, maybe it helps: https://www.bluetooth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/1901_Feature_Overview_Brief_FINAL.pdf
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12:17.12Bitterblueshtrb: At the moment, nothing. In the past I would have liked to know why the "Connect" button simply fails with no meaningful error message. I was trying to send a file from my laptop to my phone. It turned out that the "Send File" button works fine even though "Connect" fails.
12:18.30shtrbOh , that is probably a missing bluez or something like that. (make sure you have bluez installed and the bluetoothd is running on your machine and that the device is enabled ) , after you had verified that you can try to perform a peering (if never done before)
12:19.02shtrbOh sorry , send had worked
12:19.30shtrbI get such things when the bluetooth thethring is disabled over the phone (don't ask me why)
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12:28.59BitterblueInteresting.
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12:31.37noob8650shtrb: I find it really frustrating how slow sending images from phone to pc is via bluetooth, it would be such a cool feature to use when you snap something every now and then.
12:32.22shtrbWe have 33600 kbps modem once , bluetooth is not that bad
12:33.50shtrb*We had 36,600 bps modems once .. :D sorry for the typo
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13:01.40BluesKajHi folks
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14:22.07Hook-MIs the topic outdated?
14:31.31xyquadratHook: Indeed, it is
14:31.50shtrblong live kde 3.5.1
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15:18.37mefistofelesshtrb: heh, I started using kde in 4, never liked it before that
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15:21.55JanKusanagithat was Plasma already =)
15:22.44mefistofelesheh, yeah, in a way
15:22.50mefistofelesor was it called plasma already?
15:24.44shtrbJanKusanagi, there is only kde` and that is 3 , all the rest are forks :-( (shtrb startes a holy war)
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15:33.42BitterblueWas KDE 3 using Qt 3?
15:34.02thiagoyes
15:34.07thiagoso far the version numbers have matched
15:34.18thiagomajor versions
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18:03.33blurkisIn the age of dinasours..  I actually liked gnome2. That is, I prefered it over the current kde. Nowadays, gnome feels like an itchy cardigan..  hahaha.
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18:05.47mefistofelesI used fluxbox ;)
18:05.52mefistofelesand fvwm
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20:21.14lolokunhi everyone. I'm quite new to matrix and element and I've just realised I've overwritten my account password. Is there a way to recover it or reset it? With an email-based procedure for example?
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21:46.00blurkiswsky: yeah, but modern kde is better. So mate is not an option, :)
21:46.31wskyah so you're satisfied
21:47.05wskyi really underappreciated kde 3.5.12, it really was something microsoft was worrying about
21:47.31wskyit was designed in the xp era and the interface was exceeding xp in almost every way
21:54.29wskyfew years back i tried tde on a fedora system, was quite ok but not as good as i used to be
21:54.56wskyi mean, combined with modern apps didn't look as good as years back
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22:49.07petteygI have KDE/Plasma 5.18.5 installed on Gentoo and two monitors. Because DisplayPort KVMs are ridiculously expensive, to work from home I keep my work laptop connected to the second (mini-)DisplayPort input on my monitors. Every time I use the panel controls to switch inputs between the laptop and back to the KDE desktop, KDE forgets the orientation of the screens (i.e. which is left or right), and whichever
22:49.14petteygone it decided is not "primary" also loses its background and widgets.
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