| 00:07.50 | danieldg | it's very strange because the plasma control works with rhythmbox, and kdeconnect can see and control both audacious and rhythmbox (along with exposing my phone's player to control from my desktop). |
| 00:09.07 | JanKusanagi | maybe Audacious' MPRIS implementation is not fully compliant |
| 00:09.11 | JanKusanagi | what version of Plasma is this? |
| 00:09.23 | danieldg | plasmashell 5.18.5 |
| 00:10.10 | danieldg | it wouldn't surprise me, but I would expect an error or something |
| 00:10.37 | JanKusanagi | I recall something about fixes for something related to certain MPRIS interfaces, maybe it was for 5.19... |
| 00:11.35 | danieldg | rhythmbox does expose a few more functions on dbus |
| 00:13.01 | danieldg | I would assume that would just mean you can't add files to audacious (that's most of the diff) |
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| 00:18.04 | danieldg | hmm. Audacious doesn't seem to export org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.Player.OpenUri, and https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mpris-spec/latest/Player_Interface.html does list that - can't tell for sure if that means it's required |
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| 00:41.05 | danieldg | JanKusanagi: it was audacious's fault, compiling the latest version of that works. Thanks for the help! |
| 00:41.29 | JanKusanagi | cool, yw =) |
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| 04:34.20 | aiena | I am KDE 5.18.3 often the desktop on login is black, sometimes t loads ok on logout and re login |
| 04:36.41 | aiena | the start menu shows, no desktop bf |
| 04:36.43 | aiena | bg |
| 04:36.45 | aiena | and icons |
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| 05:24.08 | Merc | hey folks, just put linux on my dual-display machine... 2nd monitor does not have a KDE panel at the bottom, where do i need to look in settings? |
| 05:24.13 | Merc | thanks for any help |
| 05:25.19 | Merc | ohhh add new panel? |
| 05:25.20 | Merc | hmm |
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| 05:26.43 | Merc | hmmm having no luck |
| 05:29.11 | Merc | i 'add new panel', one shows up on main monitor, i right click, 'edit panel' and try to drag it onto other monitor but it doesnt move |
| 05:29.38 | Merc | ohhhhhh |
| 05:30.37 | Merc | got it |
| 05:30.47 | Merc | drag "screen edge" widget thing |
| 05:32.46 | Merc | never mind :) |
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| 06:30.53 | aiena | I am struggling to get service menus to work. Not sure what I am doing wrong. I put my .desktop file in ~/.local/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/x.desktop . Tese are its contents https://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/39278777 |
| 06:31.09 | aiena | It does not show the menu entry when I right click in dolphin |
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| 06:33.51 | aiena | i tried running kbuildsycoca5 too |
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| 06:38.33 | aiena | I am on KDE 5.18.3 UBUNtu 19.10 |
| 06:42.26 | Merc | i dunno what servicemenus is |
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| 06:44.44 | aiena | It allows you to add custom menu entry to file context menu. Merc https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Dolphin_Service_Menus |
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| 06:45.12 | aiena | e.g. right click and run a script on a particular file in dolphin |
| 06:45.17 | Merc | ah, right |
| 06:45.39 | Merc | well, that would probably be somewhere in a dolphin config directory i would think |
| 06:45.49 | Merc | i could be wrong, i dunno |
| 06:45.52 | Merc | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 06:46.08 | aiena | well the thing is I follwed that almost to the T |
| 06:46.14 | aiena | I ran kf5-config --path services |
| 06:46.32 | aiena | and found the path I'll just try without the subdir |
| 06:46.34 | Merc | X-KDE-ServiceTypes=KonqPopupMenu/Plugin |
| 06:46.38 | Merc | you sure that's right? |
| 06:46.47 | aiena | that I am not sure |
| 06:47.04 | aiena | the techbase article says that |
| 06:47.12 | Merc | how old is the techbase article? |
| 06:47.14 | aiena | the one I linked to |
| 06:47.36 | aiena | I don't know but it says " kf5-config" so it must be plasma 5 right |
| 06:47.43 | aiena | kf5 did not exists in kde4 |
| 06:49.16 | aiena | i was looking for docs on serviceType |
| 06:49.29 | Merc | yeah i dunno man |
| 06:49.56 | Merc | https://store.kde.org/p/998462/#:~:text=KDE%20Service%20Menu%20Editor%20is,the%20command%20to%20be%20run. |
| 06:49.59 | Merc | try that? |
| 06:50.00 | aiena | it's ok it had worked long back |
| 06:50.03 | Merc | GUI that lets you add stuff |
| 06:50.21 | aiena | oh this is rocking cool |
| 06:50.26 | aiena | i thought there was no gui. |
| 06:50.32 | Merc | google is your friend |
| 06:50.51 | Merc | if that doesnt work and you still wanna do it by editing files, maybe look for another guide |
| 06:50.56 | Merc | cuz that one aint working for ya :) |
| 06:51.26 | Merc | KDE has changed a lot over the years, even in the last couple |
| 06:51.31 | Merc | so who knows |
| 06:51.50 | Merc | i added something to a dolphin menu a couple years back, but it was just a plug'n'play thing |
| 06:52.00 | Merc | i didnt mess with the servicemenu bit |
| 06:53.20 | Merc | The reason I wrote this application is because I noticed a lot of menus had not been ported to KDE4, rather than port them, I thought "why not write an application so everyone can make these menus easily.". So I did. |
| 06:53.24 | Merc | looks like that GUI thing is old |
| 06:53.30 | Merc | prolly wont work |
| 06:53.38 | Merc | all i did was googler |
| 06:53.42 | Merc | s/er/e |
| 06:54.54 | aiena | yeah it doesnt seem to work |
| 06:55.15 | aiena | if you watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A39CFWE92b0 seems like my method should work |
| 06:57.21 | aiena | Merc: maybe its my mimetype filter let me try these 2 .desktop files n see |
| 06:57.30 | aiena | https://store.kde.org/p/1172758/ |
| 07:02.53 | aiena | Merc: yup its working |
| 07:03.04 | aiena | slight change in syntax :P |
| 07:03.08 | Merc | awesome |
| 07:03.25 | Merc | yea with linux sometimes you have to go through 2 or 3 guides :) |
| 07:03.41 | Merc | glad you got it working |
| 07:05.32 | aiena | more than guides it was actually these .desktop files on the kde store that helped |
| 07:05.55 | aiena | its no longer X-KDE-ServiceTypes= it;s just ServiceTypes= |
| 07:06.33 | aiena | the rest is correct so thats why the techbase article looked right |
| 07:06.34 | aiena | :P |
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| 07:07.25 | Merc | nod |
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| 08:28.04 | elcuco | 11:02 -!- Channel #kde created Sun Nov 26 08:42:41 2006 |
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| 08:28.07 | physkets | Hi! |
| 08:28.27 | physkets | How do I get events in KOrganizer to appear in my calender on the plasma-panel? |
| 08:31.59 | elcuco | Hi, I am trying to build KDE using kdesrc-build, and I need to build QRencode. Where/how do I get it? |
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| 08:41.11 | solderfumes[m] | elcuco, what do you mean? Haven't you tried searching for qrencode first before asking your question? |
| 08:42.31 | elcuco | solderfumes[m]: i am assuming that there is a reciepe for building it as part of kdesrc-build. i don't want to break all that automation. |
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| 10:09.31 | Metamorphosis | Hello, how can I remove Kmail and its related tools without breaking the system? I've heard that removing akonadi can be problematic. |
| 10:09.51 | JanKusanagi | I have no Akonadi on my system at all |
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| 10:10.09 | JanKusanagi | the only problem of removing Akonadi, is if you need software that uses Akonadi... like KMail |
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| 10:22.23 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
| 10:22.33 | JanKusanagi | o/ |
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| 10:26.44 | BluesKaj | JanKusanagi, o/ |
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| 10:47.35 | Metamorphosis | JanKusanagi I'm looking for a software installer that gives me info about the date of installation of every package. |
| 10:48.00 | JanKusanagi | that's up to your distribution's package manager |
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| 10:48.36 | Metamorphosis | JanKusanagi Do you have KAddressbook and Korganizer? |
| 10:48.47 | JanKusanagi | nope |
| 10:49.00 | Metamorphosis | I don't remember if these things were preinstalled or I added them later. But I want to get rid of them without breaking the system. |
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| 10:50.38 | goodger | Metamorphosis: if your distribution's package manager is competently written and you don't deliberately break it, you can remove them without breaking anything |
| 10:51.08 | Metamorphosis | Because apparently we have things like KDE plasma desktop calendar installed. |
| 10:52.38 | JanKusanagi | as I said, I have no Akonadi |
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| 10:53.12 | JanKusanagi | nothing explodes because of that, only things that require it, and any, as goodger put it, "competently written" package manager would tell you about it |
| 10:55.02 | Metamorphosis | Thank you both JanKusanagi and goodger |
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| 13:40.09 | Dwarf | What's the "best" (up-to-date, maintained, modern, plays pretty much anything) Qt/KDE music player? |
| 13:40.36 | Dwarf | I've been using Cantata but that apparently isn't maintained anymore, even though it works amazingly |
| 13:40.37 | jankusanagi_ | you know that question has no answer, right? |
| 13:40.39 | jankusanagi_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.40 | jankusanagi_ | QMMP ftw |
| 13:41.10 | Dwarf | It's more of a question that lets me orientate with whatever it is people like. Perhaps I'll like their choices too! |
| 13:41.20 | jankusanagi_ | ok, then QMMP xD |
| 13:41.40 | Dwarf | Winamp skin support eh? |
| 13:41.48 | Dwarf | Does it whip the llama's ass too? |
| 13:42.02 | jankusanagi_ | yes, it supports that, but there's also a "regular Qt" interface |
| 13:42.57 | Dwarf | I'll give it a try! |
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| 17:38.26 | mphojele | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.40 | mphojele | the mouse still moves though |
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| 17:39.01 | mphojele | then I kill the session with loginctl |
| 17:39.44 | mphojele | This also happens at login, It freezes at the plasma splash screen |
| 17:43.16 | SpikeHeron | mphojele: i can confirm the logout problem on Fedora32. i don't have that problem on 5 other distros, so seems like a fedora problem. |
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| 17:58.01 | KuerbisKern | Did anyone in here have any luck in sync icloud with korganizer? I found my calendars, I can create entries which are shown on any other apple device. BUT I cannot see all entries I made with the other devices. Any ideas? |
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| 19:06.32 | lordofallcubes | Hey guys, I use i3, and when I use gui's, I tend to prefer kde apps. I'm noticing that on drag and drop, ctrl doesn't change the cursor...is this normal? or is it just my setup? |
| 19:06.39 | lordofallcubes | e.g., dolphin |
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| 19:08.07 | Chaekyung | lordofallcubes: it's NOT normal |
| 19:08.16 | Chaekyung | will do a close-up investigation |
| 19:08.56 | lordofallcubes | Ok, fwiw, I'm using ubuntu 20.04 atm. I checked the app I work on, and it seems to have a similar pattern when I add a dnd operation. |
| 19:08.58 | jankusanagi_ | in Dolphin you get a different cursor if you're using shift or ctrl+shift |
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| 19:09.15 | lordofallcubes | Maybe it's a Qt bug in Ubuntu? |
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| 19:09.57 | Chaekyung | lordofallcubes: On xfce with xfwm4 the cursor changes when I drag a file from one dolphin to the next. I did openbox --replace and I still get the mouse cursor changed to a cursor with a + |
| 19:10.00 | lordofallcubes | I'll check a bit more. But thanks for reassuring this, because I honestly didn't have an answer :P |
| 19:10.45 | lordofallcubes | OH yeah Chaekyung, it seems to change when I move from one window to the other...that's odd |
| 19:11.16 | Chaekyung | uhm what? |
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| 19:11.29 | Chaekyung | it changes both when I drag and drop inside a window and between. tested that just now |
| 19:11.59 | lordofallcubes | but if you drag a file within the same folder, but you tap ctrl |
| 19:12.00 | Chaekyung | wtf i3 doesn't seem to have --replace |
| 19:12.02 | lordofallcubes | does the cursor change? |
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| 19:12.17 | Chaekyung | no |
| 19:12.34 | lordofallcubes | That's the issue I'm talking about. That's very odd behavior |
| 19:12.34 | Chaekyung | it shows the file with a + next to it |
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| 19:13.24 | lordofallcubes | Right, and then if you press alt it doesn't change to an arrow, but if you move the mouse to a different window, it does. |
| 19:13.47 | lordofallcubes | In theory if you hold the drag in place, and just change the modifier, the cursor should change |
| 19:13.51 | Chaekyung | when I drag a file and hoover it over a folder in thunar and press ctrl the cursor does change |
| 19:14.05 | Chaekyung | perhaps it is the KDE bug |
| 19:14.12 | lordofallcubes | thunar is a gtk app |
| 19:14.14 | Chaekyung | KDE is very buggy so I wouldn't be shocked |
| 19:14.18 | Chaekyung | yeah I know, lordofallcubes |
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| 19:14.27 | Chaekyung | I was just testing to see what the behavior elsewhere is |
| 19:14.30 | lordofallcubes | Ah, ok |
| 19:14.55 | lordofallcubes | I just would like to know if it's a qt bug, or expected qt behavior (which owuld be horrible) |
| 19:15.48 | Chaekyung | I could boot another system and see what happens inside KDE |
| 19:15.52 | Chaekyung | but I kind of don't want to |
| 19:16.07 | Chaekyung | KDE programs have a increasing number of laughable bugs that only appear outside of KDE. |
| 19:16.16 | Chaekyung | Like some programs being scaled up while others aren't |
| 19:16.21 | lordofallcubes | thnx for checking though |
| 19:16.44 | lordofallcubes | scaling issues could be due to missing the environmental variable that triggers it |
| 19:16.45 | Chaekyung | ie kwrite and kcalc don't get the same size menus and icons etc unless you set QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0 |
| 19:16.51 | lordofallcubes | because otherwise I think the app needs to set that in code |
| 19:17.00 | lordofallcubes | yeah, that variable |
| 19:17.16 | lordofallcubes | It's not clear to me what the best scaling behavior is for apps in qt |
| 19:17.38 | Chaekyung | lordofallcubes: I know I moved to a different topic. :) But it's only KDE programs that magically decide to act as if QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=1 when unset and it is just _some_ of them not all of KDE |
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| 19:18.14 | Chaekyung | I could respect it if KDE decided to force the idiotic Qt scaling that makes zero sense with QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=1 if it suddenly one day applied to ALL kde framworks programs |
| 19:18.17 | Chaekyung | that's not the case |
| 19:18.25 | Chaekyung | if you start 10 then 3 will be large and 7 won't. that's just silly |
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| 19:19.03 | lordofallcubes | true |
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| 19:19.20 | lordofallcubes | atm I'm porting an app to qt, and not sure what to do with scaling. |
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| 19:19.30 | lordofallcubes | But if I set that flag to scale, it just does a horrible raster scale |
| 19:19.46 | lordofallcubes | I think I'd rather just pass all my metrics through a dpiscale method |
| 19:21.01 | Chaekyung | lordofallcubes: here's a problem you have to solve, then: KDE systemconfig lets you set font and icon sizes. qt5ct lets you set font and icon sizes. many linux users have set those. scaling not required because icons and fonts are the size the end-user perfers. |
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| 19:21.38 | Chaekyung | lordofallcubes: windows and macOS users have typically not set those things. |
| 19:22.09 | lordofallcubes | The app is not open source (I work for a company :P), so I can get away with not respecting user scaling in favor of proper scaling. |
| 19:23.14 | Chaekyung | lordofallcubes: so if your qt program is primarily not for gnu/linux then you'll have to do whatever they recommend at https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/highdpi.html |
| 19:23.21 | Chaekyung | QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR is depricated btw |
| 19:23.56 | Chaekyung | I'm guessing it's not primarily for gnu/linux if it is evil propietary software |
| 19:24.04 | Chaekyung | not that I see anything wrong with feeding your family |
| 19:24.41 | lordofallcubes | It's window sonly, but I develop on linux, so it technically runs fully on linux. But it is a very custom looking app (because it needs to sell). |
| 19:25.09 | lordofallcubes | eh, tbh, it's less about feeding the family, and more about getting good experience on software architecture (my background is not CS). Eventually I'd like to move to OSS |
| 19:27.22 | lordofallcubes | Ok, found what may be a related bug to this cursor thing |
| 19:27.24 | lordofallcubes | and it may be fixed |
| 19:27.35 | lordofallcubes | 29 june, so I'll have to wait |
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| 19:28.12 | lordofallcubes | It's such an ugly bug though. |
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| 19:54.38 | probe_eff_ | Greetings ! Is there any way to adjust mouse scrolling in Tumbleweed KDE shell 5.19.3 - there is no option available. Here are the relevant SS from the menu and the manual itself https://imgur.com/a/mHaJUrj |
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| 20:50.12 | GuiToris | hello, can kate complete shell paths and filenames? |
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| 21:04.08 | sigNeon | I'm beginning to thin that kde in general has keyboard/mouse lag issues |
| 21:04.26 | sigNeon | delayed mouse and keyboard lag |
| 21:04.56 | sigNeon | not sure where to look since no othre DE does this |
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| 21:12.55 | jankusanagi_ | ? |
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| 21:31.05 | GuiToris | jankusanagi_, do you use kate? |
| 21:31.18 | jankusanagi_ | no, just KWrite |
| 21:31.31 | GuiToris | oh, okay :) |
| 21:31.42 | jankusanagi_ | my "?" was about the keyboard/mouse "lag" thing, btw =) |
| 21:31.57 | GuiToris | I know, I was just curious |
| 21:32.27 | GuiToris | I've been trying to find the answer for months |
| 21:34.13 | GuiToris | do you think kwrite is more feature rich than kate? |
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| 21:34.54 | jankusanagi_ | just the opposite |
| 21:35.08 | GuiToris | oh, okay |
| 21:35.12 | jankusanagi_ | they use the same engine, but KWrite is a more basic "shell" |
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| 21:36.04 | GuiToris | I used to use it but it was with kde3 and I didn't know what have happened to it since then |
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| 21:37.30 | Dwarf | 6/6/7 |
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| 22:07.15 | goodger | Dwarf: 0.142857 |
| 22:07.31 | Dwarf | Thanks |
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| 22:19.27 | zee_ | hi everyone, ive posted about this here before as well as on reddit but I haven't gotten much, but for some reason alt+shift+<num> shortcuts don't work for me. I have that shortcut format setup so that I can move windows between desktops. The reason I'm posting again is because I kind of narrowed it down a bit more, I previously though any shortcut wouldnt work but I just tried chaing it to ctrl+<num> and it works for some reason, alt+<num> also works but for some |
| 22:19.29 | zee_ | reason I can't assign stuff to shift+<num> so i think the issue is there somewhere |
| 22:19.30 | zee_ | any ideas? |
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| 23:01.12 | oprypin | zee_, have u considered that altshift changes the current keyboard layout |
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| 23:11.49 | hyiltiz | Is there a test server providing samba:// that I can connect to (with Dolphin)? Seems dolphpin isn't working with my samba setup |
| 23:15.39 | zee_ | i only have one keyboard layout set |
| 23:15.42 | zee_ | its us default |
| 23:16.09 | zee_ | and no shortcuts that relate to it, unless youre saying its a shortcut that is set by default oprypin |
| 23:17.00 | oprypin | hyiltiz, `man smbd` |
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| 23:18.58 | hyiltiz | That shows me the man page from Debian proj. and mentoins no test hosts |
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| 23:19.08 | oprypin | ok |
| 23:20.59 | hyiltiz | we are looking at different man pages? |
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| 23:38.35 | zee_ | oh also forgot to mention but I use alt+shift+q to close programs and that works so I dont think its a layout issue |
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| 23:48.12 | oprypin | zee_, huh could be something related to the fact that Shift+2 is "@" etc. but yea it should work... |
| 23:52.24 | zee_ | it should and the thing is it has before |
| 23:52.27 | zee_ | it just randomly stopped |
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| 23:54.55 | jankusanagi_ | if you change those to super+<num>, does that work? |
| 23:57.14 | oprypin | i can bet it does |
| 23:57.57 | zee_ | it does |
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