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| 01:01.02 | frogenv | anyone with a recent kde plasma?, I see the special program/window preferences interface has changed |
| 01:01.22 | frogenv | unfortunatelly it doesn't seem as though I can store changes, I add a property then accept |
| 01:01.44 | frogenv | and it won't apply nor appear when I reopen the special preferences again |
| 01:02.59 | jankusanagi_ | let's see... |
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| 01:03.42 | jankusanagi_ | works here |
| 01:03.46 | frogenv | just noticed I'm on 19.2, when this system upgrade finishes I'll see if it also happens on 19.3 |
| 01:03.58 | jankusanagi_ | with Plasma 5.19.2 |
| 01:05.25 | frogenv | even weirder, I just tested with a program that already had special settings set (the other were untouched) |
| 01:05.33 | frogenv | and not only did it not save my changes |
| 01:05.42 | frogenv | it actually wiped what was there already |
| 01:06.17 | frogenv | I wonder how I could debug this |
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| 01:09.06 | yanjack-M | Cul89# |
| 01:15.52 | yanjack-M | With plasma lol |
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| 01:36.11 | jankusanagi_ | well, it should "restore" every program |
| 01:36.17 | jankusanagi_ | but if programs don't have proper session support, what's "restored" may vary |
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| 01:53.35 | petdozkya-M | Vary depending on what, if I may ask? |
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| 01:55.18 | jankusanagi_ | I mean, if a program doesn't support session management, then the program will just be launched "as new" |
| 01:55.41 | jankusanagi_ | to restore a program with certain documents open and such, the program needs session support |
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| 02:03.49 | petdozkya-M | Yet some programs are not even launching at all. What I'm asking is: how do I know which program has session support? What does it require to have session support? |
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| 02:16.26 | jankusanagi_ | well... it would be part of their programming xD |
| 02:16.47 | jankusanagi_ | but any program should at least be launched, if session is saved correctly |
| 02:16.54 | jankusanagi_ | maybe you're getting an older session restored instead |
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| 04:59.37 | XndrK | I'm running Plasma on Manjaro and the "battery and brightness" icon in my status and notifications section is missing. |
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| 05:31.31 | bullshark-M | KDE does not show a 4 terabyte drive formatted with ZFS under "devices" in dolphin. |
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| 05:43.29 | mattfly | is there any task manager that keeps the manually set order for the windows? |
| 05:44.15 | mattfly | I once made a fork of the default one with that feature but now is failing with "qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 9 (BadDrawable), sequence: 34154, resource id: 16782073, major code: 14 (GetGeometry), minor code: 0" |
| 05:44.26 | mattfly | the tasks don't show up... |
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| 06:16.20 | mattfly | or maybe there is a way to sort them with commands? |
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| 07:39.16 | tmow-M | sent a long message: < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/kde.modular.im/56dfb117c1f91f617bb5adb01fb2d9c27989d858 > |
| 07:40.23 | tmow-M | Any ideas would be very welcome |
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| 13:10.34 | rollexus | Hello everyone |
| 13:10.53 | rollexus | I am using KDE and the primary screen is not showing the menu bars. Can anyone help? |
| 13:11.11 | rollexus | It is showing up as if it's secondary and the laptop screen is disabled |
| 13:14.03 | rollexus | Hello? |
| 13:14.13 | rollexus | Am I in the right channel? |
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| 13:19.37 | josef64 | rollexus: Yes, please be patient :) |
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| 13:29.43 | jankusanagi_ | and there's a secondary screen where "the menu bars" appear? |
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| 13:34.58 | rollexus | josef64: thank you |
| 13:35.20 | rollexus | jankusanagi_: No. The menu bar is not showing anywhere |
| 13:35.33 | rollexus | Even when I make the laptop screen the primary |
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| 13:35.45 | jankusanagi_ | is it your intention to use the Global Menu widget? |
| 13:36.22 | jankusanagi_ | if not, disable the "Application menus daemon" background service in Plasma's system settings |
| 13:38.36 | rollexus | Ok |
| 13:38.38 | rollexus | let me try |
| 13:39.27 | rollexus | Sorry, I am running everything from krunner |
| 13:39.37 | rollexus | How to get to Plasma system settings? |
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| 13:39.52 | jankusanagi_ | just enter "system set" and should get you there |
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| 13:43.39 | rollexus | I am in System Settings but do not see Global Menu wdiget. Where is that located? |
| 13:43.58 | jankusanagi_ | that's not what I said xD |
| 13:44.05 | jankusanagi_ | ââ if not, disable the "Application menus daemon" background service in Plasma's system settings |
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| 13:44.27 | jankusanagi_ | get to "Background services", and disable/stop that one |
| 13:45.25 | jankusanagi_ | that service is necessary if you *intend* to use the global menu, instead of having menu bars inside each program |
| 13:45.46 | jankusanagi_ | but if you don't want that, and have lost those menu bars, disabling this service should ensure they return |
| 13:47.41 | rollexus | To be honest, I want it to be Gnome simple |
| 13:48.04 | rollexus | I made the mistake of coming over to KDE thinking it would be a better experience... |
| 13:48.52 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma is a great experience =) |
| 13:49.02 | rollexus | Right now I do not see that setting. I am in both Oxygen Widget Style and Breeze Widget Style |
| 13:49.08 | jankusanagi_ | but of course, it depends on what you want, and if you're willing to tune it to your liking |
| 13:49.20 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma's system settings has a search field... |
| 13:49.25 | jankusanagi_ | just enter BACKGROUND there |
| 13:49.25 | rollexus | jankusanagi_: of course :) That is why I am willing to give it a try |
| 13:50.08 | jankusanagi_ | is this a relatively recent version of Plasma? you can run kinfocenter to find out |
| 13:52.26 | rollexus | jankusanagi_: can we start from krunner, and how to get to those settings? |
| 13:52.39 | rollexus | It is almost like I am looking at this through a peep hole |
| 13:52.44 | jankusanagi_ | ok... |
| 13:53.07 | jankusanagi_ | from KRunner, enter "System set", and Plasma's System Settings should appear listed, probably the only result |
| 13:53.18 | jankusanagi_ | but you had this already opened... |
| 13:53.53 | jankusanagi_ | if you prefer, you can enter "Background" directly into KRunner |
| 13:54.14 | jankusanagi_ | and the "Background Services" module from System Settings should appear there too, to launch just that separately |
| 13:54.26 | jankusanagi_ | but of course, depending on what you have installed, several other things might be listed |
| 13:55.08 | rollexus | I got background services |
| 13:55.43 | rollexus | It is showing Load-On-Demand-Services and Startup Services |
| 13:55.45 | jankusanagi_ | ok, then in the list, probably one of the first ones, locate "Application menus daemon", and disable it |
| 13:55.55 | rollexus | Yes! |
| 13:56.02 | jankusanagi_ | ignore the "load on demand" list, that's informational only |
| 13:56.03 | rollexus | Disable that? |
| 13:56.23 | jankusanagi_ | disable "Application menus daemon" |
| 13:56.28 | rollexus | Done |
| 13:56.33 | rollexus | I think I need to restart correct? |
| 13:56.35 | jankusanagi_ | uncheck and click Apply below |
| 13:56.41 | jankusanagi_ | you might need to log out |
| 13:56.47 | rollexus | Ok |
| 13:56.54 | jankusanagi_ | at the very least, you can make sure that way |
| 13:57.08 | rollexus | While I am here, what else can we do to make this great KDE as simple as gnome |
| 13:57.20 | rollexus | I really don't like the effects... It crashes on gentoo |
| 13:57.30 | jankusanagi_ | well, KDE is people, so... great Plasma Desktop =) |
| 13:57.41 | jankusanagi_ | in System Settings you have a "Desktop Effects" section |
| 13:57.44 | rollexus | of course |
| 13:57.46 | jankusanagi_ | you can disable whatever you want there |
| 13:57.58 | rollexus | jankusanagi_: thank you! |
| 13:58.04 | rollexus | Let me restart and I will be right back |
| 13:58.07 | jankusanagi_ | ok |
| 13:58.17 | rollexus | Oppps! I cannot restart... Updating gentooo |
| 13:58.20 | rollexus | ok... |
| 13:58.22 | rollexus | Will waiut |
| 13:58.26 | rollexus | Thank you again :) |
| 13:59.34 | jankusanagi_ | yw =) |
| 13:59.46 | jankusanagi_ | you can look at the desktop effects in the meantime |
| 14:00.01 | jankusanagi_ | weird to see a "Gentoonian" wanting "simple" xD |
| 14:01.14 | rollexus | lol... |
| 14:01.34 | rollexus | Compiling kernels from scratch and complex bash scripts are my thing :) |
| 14:01.51 | rollexus | I am not allowed to have shiny things.... |
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| 14:14.22 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
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| 14:17.54 | asturm | rollexus: if effects crash you'll have some gpu issues |
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| 14:19.19 | rollexus | asturm: I suspect so as well. It's this whole dual GPU Intel and Nvidia that is not playing nice with gentoo... |
| 14:19.27 | rollexus | I will need to tackle that at some point as well |
| 14:19.38 | rollexus | Right now I think I am only using the Intel GPU |
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| 15:48.12 | PasNox | hm ideally i would need to execute a script when a machine wale up after a sleep |
| 15:52.40 | jankusanagi_ | in Plasma's system settings â Notifications |
| 15:53.04 | jankusanagi_ | if you click the "Configure..." button next to "Applications:", find the "Screen Saver" component |
| 15:53.24 | jankusanagi_ | that one has events for screen locked, and screen unlocked |
| 15:53.35 | jankusanagi_ | each event can show messages, play sounds, run things... |
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| 18:27.07 | tidux|webchat | Does KDE have a distro that fills the same immutable+flatpak niche that Fedora Silverblue does for GNOME? |
| 18:27.36 | tidux|webchat | I know Nitrux uses appimages, but my personal preference is a system that uses Flatpak. |
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| 18:43.34 | PasNox | jankusanagi_: thanks - just works |
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| 18:57.56 | loise_ | tidux|webchat: you can use flatpak with discover |
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| 19:35.42 | lucas593 | I was having some problems with display scaling in Kubuntu and I was wondering if someone could help me? |
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| 19:37.30 | lucas593 | I have a thinkpad with a dock and so it's important to me to be able to move between using the computer in laptop mode and desktop seamlessly. I've been unable to set it up so that if I unplug my laptop it scales it to 125% and if i plug it in it scales back down to 100%. This works fine in windows, is this possible in KDE? |
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| 19:45.18 | Chaekyung | no not easily lucas593 |
| 19:45.38 | Chaekyung | all the pieces are there but there's no such configuration option or support |
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| 19:46.03 | Chaekyung | you could write some simple script that listens for the dock to be connected or disconnected and use xrandr to change scaling accordingly |
| 19:46.11 | Chaekyung | or you can file a bug and have kde implement that suport |
| 19:46.23 | Chaekyung | or do it yourself, idk |
| 19:46.35 | Chaekyung | It could be supported for sure |
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| 19:51.10 | lucas593 | thanks for replying @chaekyung |
| 19:51.16 | lucas593 | I will look into it |
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| 19:51.23 | lucas593 | the options you have suggested |
| 19:52.06 | lucas593 | but the fact it is possible to change the display scaling with xrandr without rebooting was something I was not aware of |
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| 19:57.51 | kedar_apte | is it possible to save password for kde wallet |
| 19:58.05 | kedar_apte | everytime i login, it asks me to enter password to login the wallt |
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| 22:16.54 | robodojo | if i'm using nixos and a stock plasma, what should i add to get a gui to networkmanager? or applet or w/e. sorry im new |
| 22:18.00 | Marquel | robodojo: plasma-nm |
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| 22:19.20 | robodojo | thanks! |
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