IRC log for #kde on 20200706

00:00.09faxing-MI just looked it up - that is really different
00:00.24PacmanPleb-MMy setup comprises up of a Ryzen 5 3600x, GTX 1070ti, Asrock x570 Phantom Gaming 4 mobo, 256GB NVME SSD (Windows boot drive), 128GB M.2 SSD (Arch boot drive), 2 2tb HDDs running in RAID 1 (for my home directory soon), and a 1tb SATA SSD (for my games). Arch is running Plasma with the Sweet theme and has Awesome which I broke. I only use Windows 10 for testing, switching mouse profiles, and playing the odd game. Meanwhile, I
00:00.25PacmanPleb-Mspend 96% of my time on Arch.
00:00.25PacmanPleb-M32GB of DDR4 RAM (2400mhz) OCed to 3333mhz.
00:00.28faxing-MThat's pretty cool!
00:00.29PacmanPleb-MThanks
00:00.30PacmanPleb-Muploaded an image: image.png (3098KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/uKcmHiwXLCowfNILOIoCFzBm >
00:00.32faxing-MI'd like to use arch at some point but the installation is way too complicated for me lol
00:00.32faxing-MOh wow
00:00.33faxing-Mthat looks really clean
00:01.09PacmanPleb-MThanks
00:01.13PacmanPleb-MI put transparency in where I can.
00:01.44faxing-MYeah, that looks really nice
00:01.45PacmanPleb-MThank you!
00:01.46faxing-Muploaded an image: image.png (2465KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/dfeHGNqCkQWrlYlkJbaJkBXy >
00:01.51faxing-MThis is my desktop at the moment
00:01.53PacmanPleb-MWhoah
00:01.53faxing-MIm aware it's not good
00:01.55faxing-Mlol
00:02.03PacmanPleb-MIt's perfectly fine
00:02.04faxing-MGoing to work on it tomorrow so it doesn't look so mac-ey
00:02.09faxing-MI didnt mean for it to - I subconsciously made it like that
00:02.25PacmanPleb-MI don't care if your OS has a Mac-like UI. Use whatever works best for you.
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00:04.04PacmanPleb-MArch Linux isn't really that hard. Just make sure not to skip details on the installation guide and use external guides if needed.
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00:06.17faxing-MI just wouldn't want to necessarily spend an hour trying to install something just for it then not to work for some reason then me need to do it all over again
00:06.17faxing-MArch seems pretty fun though
00:06.18faxing-Mother than the installation
00:06.18PacmanPleb-MI don't like how the Arch wiki explains setting up GRUB, Xorg, and users, so I use other sources.
00:06.19PacmanPleb-MOh yeah, once you get to that 5 second GRUB boot menu successfully, it feels good!
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00:43.42faxing-MI think I'm going to try to install Arch in a KVM instance and hope it goes well
00:43.43faxing-MCause I'd like to eventually run arch instead of Manjaro but I don't want to go in totally blind
00:43.43faxing-MNot great at following universal directions though so we'll see
00:51.24PacmanPleb-MWell, only one way to find out.
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03:10.07AndyAndyBoBandyIf a certain app/window, when focused, is undesirably responding to shortcuts I use for kwin, is that a kwin bug or an app bug?
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08:05.36shtrbanyone that uses thermal plasma and have a crash , you can now use Arch's patches (https://aur.archlinux.org/plasma5-applets-thermal-monitor-git.git)  to unblock the crash
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08:11.33shtrbjankusanagi_, ^
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08:15.12contrapunctuso/
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09:53.54shtrbHow can I minimize a notification to the notification bar without them being removed from the notification bar ?
09:55.09shtrbFor instance 'notify-send -t 10000 "hello" "world"' , i wish to minimize that but when I click on the "notification" plasmoid t ostill see it
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10:25.44BitterblueSome notifications stay in the history, some don't. It would be nice if the user could decide which ones stay, but I haven't found out how.
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10:28.10ChaekyungPacmanPleb-M: Nice. Very impressive.
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10:32.49shtrbI think that there should be UI that let me choose it , (I'm probably missing some special config)
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11:00.16contrapunctusHm...plasmashell was using >520M (RSS), I logged out and logged in again, and now it uses ~170M.
11:00.42contrapunctusMy previous session had been open for many days. Is this a memory leak?
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11:17.41BitterblueI guess we'll never know.
11:20.38contrapunctusBitterblue: is there really no way to find out? 🤔
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11:20.59ChaekyungThere is. One simple way is to see if you can reproduce it
11:21.18ChaekyungLike, just use it and take a look at memory use. If it grows to 1 GB by next week it's the memory leak
11:21.33contrapunctusOkay, I'll check it again in a few days.
11:23.43BitterblueAnd then what?
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11:27.43shtrbIt would be also good to log what plasmoid you had and what you had been doing , I had found for example that the GTFS plasmoid was eating my memory faster then a hungry chrome over 200 tabs
11:28.37rindolfshtrb: heh
11:29.17shtrbrindolf, you too had relied on the gtfs plasmoid ?
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11:33.58shtrbs/gtfs plasmoid/plasma publictransport
11:34.00rindolfshtrb: i don;t recall using it
11:35.07shtrbThe idea was a superb idea , my gtfs feeds had been to much for it, you could load your city routes and it would present you all nice travel features (it was pre Waze era )
11:35.37shtrbEven today you have gtfs feeds you can consume , but I gave up on having a working plasmoid for it
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11:49.31superuserbothello guys
11:49.49superuserbotcan anyone here help me?
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12:18.44JanKusanagiin one minute? no xD
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12:39.32fakuveHi guys , does anyone know how to change the default terminal emulator in KDE? I've tried changing it the graphical way in `settings Default apps` and also using the commandline by `sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator` but when I press Ctrl Alt T it keeps on loading console instead of rxvt
12:39.56DwarfCheck your shortcut settings
12:43.41fakuveDwarf: thanks , done!!
12:48.08DwarfHooray
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14:12.10shtrbanyone regarding the notifications ?
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14:13.56shtrbexample :  'notify-send -t 10000 "hello" "world"' , i wish to minimize that and when I click on the "notification" plasmoid it will still remain there.
14:22.32jankusanagi_maybe if you make it "critical", assuming notify-send allows that
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14:33.08shtrbIf I click on a critical , I can't "hide it" and by  clicking on the X it will be removed from the notification  (notify-send -t 10000 -u critical "hello" "world"  )
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14:39.09Bitterbluelol
14:39.37BitterblueMaybe it's a bug that some notifications just never stay in the history?
14:40.44shtrbI think that there could be some special button to hide the notificaiton , but let it stay in the history
14:41.00jankusanagi_you can make a feature request at bugs.kde.org
14:41.35jankusanagi_the whole thing changed a lot with the new notifications system in Plasma 5.18, maybe some features haven't come back yet
14:41.40shtrbI can't belive they missed that use case (removing the popup but leaving it in history)
14:42.11jankusanagi_people never believe others can't imagine their use-case =)
14:42.11Bitterblueshtrb: Some of them do behave like that.
14:42.17shtrbI was so happy that they had fixed the timeout feature at last, If I could I would have bought a crae of beer to the dev (face to face)
14:42.39BitterblueI think.
14:42.43jankusanagi_assuming the dev(s) like beer... xD
14:42.47shtrbok not a crate
14:43.02shtrbjust a small box (of 24 ) ?
14:43.10BitterblueMaybe they accept money.
14:43.13BitterblueMoney is good.
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14:45.33BitterblueHmm, I just tested this with a notification from Thunderbird. I clicked the X button and now it doesn't show in the history.
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18:26.52nix_nisperosany advice/idea/cool idea to perform this? (ideally I'd like to have an quick launch icon for connection and other for disconnection)
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