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| 00:49.39 | marccollin | hi i use kde 5.19 with wayland, that run fast and it's now stable but with dolphi if i do a right click that could take 10 second before displaying menu |
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| 01:22.36 | jankusanagi_ | did that happen under Plasma 5.18? |
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| 01:37.03 | mcthedonald | Hey does anyone have experience with pling store only searching stupid categories instead of apps? I am losing my cool with this stupid search behavior |
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| 02:24.44 | marccollin | jankusanagi_: yes |
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| 02:25.05 | marccollin | cpu load was like 1% |
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| 02:46.42 | Hash | Hello there folks |
| 02:47.19 | Hash | I am on 18.04 Kubuntu and I use Xmonad. I tried 20.04 but that breaks Xmonad and tried to figure it out for over a week, then gave up |
| 02:47.36 | Hash | I was wondering if anyone knows how to get the latest KDE on 18.04 |
| 02:47.39 | Hash | Are there any backports? |
| 02:48.15 | Hash | If not, would it be possible somehow to mix Neon repositories with 18.04 ubuntu bae? |
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| 02:52.11 | jankusanagi_ | you should ask on Kubuntu channels |
| 02:52.31 | Hash | Why would they know your repositories/sources? |
| 02:52.52 | Hash | I'm looking for Neon sources.list, I'll experiment myself. If it breaks, I'll figure it out. |
| 02:52.58 | Hash | Can you help me to find this? |
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| 02:54.29 | Hash | ahh it's in /ur |
| 02:54.32 | Hash | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.46 | Hash | http://archive.neon.kde.org/user/ |
| 02:57.31 | Hash | https://bpa.st/6UWQ hmm |
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| 02:58.15 | Hash | IT wants to remove some things I need. |
| 02:58.52 | Hash | Well. Fire! |
| 02:59.42 | Hash | Can I expect to have the latest KDE in neon 18.04 base? (not sure if you guys yet provide a 20.04 neon) |
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| 02:59.59 | Hash | 5.19 is in Neon 18.04 version |
| 03:03.54 | Hash | dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-O8S9Ob/58-plasma-dataengines-addons_4%3a5.19.0-0xneon+18.04+bionic+build58_amd64.deb (--unpack): |
| 03:03.59 | Hash | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:03.59 | Hash | Hmm. That's not so bad. |
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| 03:11.29 | JakeSays | so some how i added the "global menu" plasma thing. how do i get rid of it? |
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| 03:13.27 | Hash | diff package names, same files. So an upgrade causes issues. Though if you just remove all kde related packages, then add the repo, then try, then it's better. Just apt-get -o DPKG::force-overwrite something does it |
| 03:16.33 | Hash | sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" full-upgrade |
| 03:16.47 | Hash | Well. Everything seems to have gone smoothly |
| 03:17.50 | Hash | Unable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Error loading '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so'. Hmm. Kate says this. |
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| 03:19.14 | Hash | Interesting |
| 03:19.23 | Hash | If I use dbus-launch kate, it doesn't complain. |
| 03:19.25 | Hash | Interesting. |
| 03:19.32 | Hash | Oh wow |
| 03:19.35 | Hash | The new kate is nice! |
| 03:19.42 | Hash | (My primary editor) |
| 03:20.22 | Hash | Oh righ. I gotta log out/reboot to reload the new libs |
| 03:20.24 | Hash | Doh. |
| 03:20.30 | Hash | Right right. Yeah, np. It's fine. |
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| 03:25.42 | Hash | Yup. Same exact problem |
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| 03:25.59 | Hash | It's not an Ubuntu issue. It's a KDE/plasma issue specifically when it comes to Xmonad |
| 03:26.21 | Hash | KDE panels again do not open in the latest KDE under Xmonad. I've tried a few diff distros |
| 03:26.36 | Hash | That's a deal breaker for me. I can't live without Xmonad. Looks lik I'm stuck on 18.04 for now. |
| 03:26.38 | Hash | :( |
| 03:31.24 | Hash | sudo apt remove ^.*kde and various regex. Sigh. Then tasksel |
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| 03:47.57 | Hash | sudo apt remove $(dpkg -l|grep neon|awk '{ print $2 }') |
| 03:48.13 | Hash | Done. Now installing 800mb of kubuntu packags again. Well that was a wasteful half hour |
| 03:48.26 | Hash | But now it's confirmed. It's not xmonad or distros, it's specifically KDE |
| 03:48.45 | Hash | 5.14-17 is good, latest ones don't work with Xmonad |
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| 06:20.01 | JakeSays | anyone know where plasma configuration is stored? |
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| 09:51.18 | bullshark-M | How do I restore the default file associations under KDE? Everything wants to open with qbitorrent. |
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| 11:29.47 | BluesKaj | 'Morning folks |
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| 11:31.58 | erts | Hi there, does anybody have the problem of KDE Plasma's networkmanager keeps disconnecting the wifi connection and prompting for password, even having a stable and strong wifi signal and the password stored system-side? It's not happening to me with other desktop environments, just Plasma since version 5.12 (now running 5.18). |
| 11:33.02 | erts | This is happening on my three laptops with different wifi chips, by the way - so I would rule out drivers or hardware failures... |
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| 11:40.15 | thrice | Nope, don't think I've ever seen that. Anything in network manager's logs? |
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| 11:41.16 | thrice | you could rule out plasma, too, by maybe trying NM in another environment (say, xfce) for a few days, and seeing if you get disconnects there, too |
| 11:41.26 | erts__ | And it happened again... |
| 11:41.32 | erts__ | thrice: I did, not happening with other DEs |
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| 11:42.26 | thrice | the other DEs were using networkmanager, too? |
| 11:42.46 | erts__ | Yes of course |
| 11:43.13 | erts__ | in fact whenever it happens, I click cancel and then re-connect by clicking on my wifi networkn from the networkmanager plasmoid and I don't get prompted, it just connects |
| 11:43.18 | erts__ | it doesn't make sense to me... |
| 11:44.27 | erts | I tested different distros with plasma and this happens with all of them, and I tested Xfce and MATE on different distros, and this does not happen at all |
| 11:44.53 | thrice | yeah, I wouldn't think plasma does anything smart, like deciding when to disconnect - it just interfaces to NM, which does the heavy lifting |
| 11:45.26 | erts | Easy fix would be not to use Plasma, but I don't want to switch, I'd like to report this bug but I cannot replicate it, it seems random... |
| 11:46.18 | erts | thrice: that's what I thought but clearly plasma is somehow interferring, if this problem is isolated to this desktop environment |
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| 11:47.18 | erts | one of my guesses is that, when disconnected, Plasma's "implementation" of NM is trying to reconnect to quickly and the router rejects it and NM interprets that as if I typed a wrong password |
| 11:47.52 | erts | However I don't see absolutely any WIFI instabilities when using other DEs, so a bit lost on that... |
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| 11:54.18 | kab0m | I have a bug with kvantum. Whenever i try to use the default breeze als application style, the system does use kvantum style instead. How can i fix that? |
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| 15:19.35 | FIQ | Hi. This may or may not be a result of a new version or a new install meaning a new configuration (I assume the latter). I recently created a new Archlinux install on a new desktop. As part of that process, I installed a bunch of software that I use. However, I noticed that Konsole on this new install seem to treat the Alt key as Meta instead of Escape. I very much prefer the latter, but I have no idea how to |
| 15:19.37 | FIQ | reconfigure it -- Google was unhelpful and looking at Konsole configuration, I wasn't able to find anything. Konsole version 20.04.1 |
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| 15:25.49 | FIQ | Never mind, I appear to have misdiagnosed the problem. Alt+1-9 wasn't working, and a bit of googling seemed to show that Alt+numbers isn't functional if Alt is Meta, but works fine if Alt is Escape. The actual problem seems to have been that Alt+numbers is used to switch between tabs. I unbound those since I don't actually use tabs, and my problem was solved. Thanks anyway! |
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| 15:45.07 | n4mu | Hello. |
| 15:46.23 | n4mu | I'm not understanding something with color profiles. I have generated an ICC file using DisplayCal, but, when I press "install" I get an error.. I used to recall something in the systemsettings menu that allowed loading a color profile manually, does anyone know anything about this? |
| 15:47.50 | n4mu | I did find this: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=141602 (but not really sure what to do) |
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| 17:05.25 | TheMetamorphosis | Hi, does anybody know what's the difference between "KDiff3" and "Kompare" ? |
| 17:05.44 | JanKusanagi | dejavu... |
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| 17:07.04 | JanKusanagi | I'm guessing you weren't the one asking that exact same thing around here the other day... |
| 17:07.55 | JanKusanagi | mostly, how they presents the differences to the user, "git diff style" vs chart-with-arrows style |
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| 17:08.51 | TheMetamorphosis | I used meld to compare word files (I need it to do some work on English essays and documents), but it's a Gnome app and has too many dependencies, so I was looking for a KDE alternative. |
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| 17:42.19 | contrapunctus | KDE Plasma on Debian Testing. For some reason, my system tray has vanished. Can I run something from a command line to make it reappear? |
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| 17:48.03 | JanKusanagi | you can add the widget back |
| 17:48.16 | JanKusanagi | no need for commands |
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| 18:12.43 | goddard | hi |
| 18:12.47 | goddard | i installed kde neon |
| 18:12.54 | goddard | steam isn't working |
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| 18:14.02 | thrice | I don't use neon, but any error messages? Possibly need some 32bit libs or so? |
| 18:14.42 | goddard | steamui.so not found |
| 18:14.51 | goddard | yeah steam needs 32bit |
| 18:16.05 | goddard | also another question |
| 18:16.20 | goddard | in Konsole it sometimes has lines going horitzontally across the screen |
| 18:16.26 | goddard | why does it do that |
| 18:16.33 | goddard | its like it breaks or something |
| 18:16.41 | thrice | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=157825 ? |
| 18:16.51 | thrice | lines? |
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| 18:17.30 | goddard | yeah its hard to explain but its like a line shows up |
| 18:17.34 | goddard | and it goes away |
| 18:17.54 | thrice | mine looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/0Uz3wrL.png |
| 18:18.58 | barchiesi-M | goddard do you have a hidpi screen? There was a bug regarding that. The lines you see should be your background image |
| 18:20.24 | goddard | yeah its 4k |
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| 18:20.55 | goddard | can i fix it some how? |
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| 18:21.31 | goddard | i just changed compositor |
| 18:21.34 | goddard | to 3.1 |
| 18:21.41 | goddard | wonder if that fixes it |
| 18:21.46 | goddard | oh no it showed up again |
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| 18:28.15 | goddard_ | back |
| 18:28.20 | goddard_ | think i hung up |
| 18:29.54 | JanKusanagi | the phone? =) |
| 18:30.12 | goddard_ | on the web |
| 18:30.16 | goddard_ | spider almost got me |
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| 18:36.37 | goddard_ | ok so steam works if i download from steam |
| 18:36.39 | goddard_ | but not from the repo |
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| 18:38.24 | thrice | good start |
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| 18:59.02 | kinghat-M1 | did anyone lose yakuake autostart after 5.19 update? i uninstalled and installed it again and it still isnt showing up in the autostart settings ð¤·ââï¸ |
| 18:59.46 | JanKusanagi | you can put *any* program you want in autostart |
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| 19:10.11 | kinghat-M1 | sure but iirc yakuake did that automagically. i could be wrong though |
| 19:10.12 | kinghat-M1 | i dont remember doing it. |
| 19:10.34 | JanKusanagi | I think your brain RAM is betraying you |
| 19:10.53 | JanKusanagi | either way, takes 1/100000th the time to just add if yourself xD |
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| 19:12.06 | kinghat-M1 | didnt survive the hard restart |
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| 19:13.05 | JanKusanagi | "hard restart"? |
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| 20:18.13 | goddard_ | i usually use Gnome Disks to setup system auto mounts. How do people do it in Plasma? |
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| 20:19.08 | JanKusanagi | there's a place for that in Plasma's system settings, or right-clicking the Device Notifier plasmoid |
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| 20:19.50 | goddard | JanKusanagi: these are physical disks |
| 20:19.56 | goddard | connected via SATA |
| 20:20.05 | JanKusanagi | as opposed to... ethereal disks? xD |
| 20:20.18 | barchiesi-M | goddard I think the bug was fixed a release ago, not sure though |
| 20:20.37 | JanKusanagi | theoretical disks? xD |
| 20:20.40 | goddard | JanKusanagi: i just assumed that was for USB drives |
| 20:20.52 | JanKusanagi | ah, "USB drives" is a thing |
| 20:20.58 | JanKusanagi | but how are they not physical? xD |
| 20:21.07 | barchiesi-M | goddard should be https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-66036 |
| 20:21.54 | goddard | barchiesi-M: thanks |
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| 20:22.20 | barchiesi-M | So qt 5.12 is the version that fixes the issue it seems |
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| 20:24.45 | poprocks | anyone know why when I run, eg, konsole in a non-KDE environment, krunner takes over my alt+f2 menu? Seems odd especially because my $DESKTOP_SESSION env variable is set to xfce |
| 20:25.10 | JanKusanagi | krunner takes over nothing |
| 20:25.16 | JanKusanagi | that's kglobalaccel5 |
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| 20:25.39 | JanKusanagi | and that one listens for <whatevershortcut> and triggers <whateverisneeded> |
| 20:26.14 | poprocks | JanKusanagi: I see, does that cover both application and plasma desktop keyboard shortcuts? |
| 20:26.35 | JanKusanagi | it covers *global* shortcuts as stated right there in its name xD |
| 20:26.53 | poprocks | uh-huh, sometimes names are misleading though ;) |
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| 20:37.57 | poprocks | but hm, now that I know it's kglobalaccel5 getting launched that's trampling over my shortcuts, I see other people on reddit have had similar issues without an obvious solution. I guess I just won't use konsole outside of kde. I know I've used other apps like okular though which has not resulted in this issue. That almost makes me more confused |
| 20:39.06 | JanKusanagi | (outside of Plasma) |
| 20:39.44 | JanKusanagi | it's probably because Konsole has the option to be hidden and shown via global shortcut (similar to Yakuake), even if it's not a popular option |
| 20:39.58 | JanKusanagi | so Konsole probably requires (and starts) kglobalaccel5 |
| 20:40.23 | poprocks | Plasma, yes - it's been called that for, what, 10 years and I'm still not used to it ;) -- ok JanKusanagi that makes sense. |
| 20:40.32 | JanKusanagi | more like 15... |
| 20:40.44 | JanKusanagi | since around 2006, basically |
| 20:41.53 | poprocks | oh wow. I do like the "Plasma made by KDE" splash screen; helps remind me (though I still forget often) |
| 20:42.42 | JanKusanagi | I guess people have powerful machines, so they see that for a fraction of a second |
| 20:42.57 | JanKusanagi | judging by how many still say "I use KDE blah blah, and..." |
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| 20:48.09 | Nact | Hi. in dolphin detailed view, the "Artist" "Genre" etc columns for audio files stopped showing anything since a couple weeks I think. I checked the files have the metadata. Dolphin 20.04 Plasma 5.19 |
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| 20:49.13 | JanKusanagi | did you stop/disable Baloo? |
| 20:49.19 | JanKusanagi | (a.k.a. Desktop Search) |
| 20:49.29 | Nact | Yes. Is it required? |
| 20:49.34 | JanKusanagi | I think so |
| 20:50.11 | Nact | Hmm maybe it stopped working the first time I moved the files since I disabled it |
| 20:50.25 | JanKusanagi | sounds about right |
| 20:51.01 | Nact | Guess I can enable it and blacklist all other folders |
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| 20:55.33 | Nact | thanks it worked |
| 20:58.38 | poprocks | I'm guessing this would also not work properly if 'only basic indexing = true' is set? |
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| 21:01.48 | Nact | As in disabling "index file ocntent too"? |
| 21:03.44 | poprocks | Nact: correct - I'm just curious. Do you have indexing of content enabled |
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| 21:04.45 | poprocks | it's the default anyway. I just disable it because I don't need it and the initial run tends to take a long time on my machines and often chokes or crashes |
| 21:07.08 | Nact | yes it's enabled. Not sure whether metadata counts as file content |
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| 21:08.38 | poprocks | Nact: I'll check on my machine next time I launch KDE^H^H^H Plasma. I believe 'only basic indexing = true' only indexes the filenames, but I stand to be corrected |
| 21:09.41 | Nact | I just tried and it still works, but maybe it's because the folder is already indexed now |
| 21:10.45 | poprocks | Nact: I would think so, yeah. To truly test you'd have to blow away your lmdb and re-index with only basic indexing, which -- why would you -- so I'll try on my machine to satisfy my own curiosity |
| 21:11.09 | Nact | Alright |
| 21:12.31 | poprocks | TFM says it only indexes the filenames, so I don't see why it *would* index metadata as well if that option is set |
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| 21:20.53 | muslimm | -[Moses believed in Allah as his creator so did Jesus and mohammed *; For he is: (Allah) the only God; our refuge; follow islam The true religion of God & jewel of THE SEAS to be lifted, [that is, be true muslimS to be lifted ****], [that is, be true muslimS to be HaPPY ****] . M- |
| 21:21.27 | JanKusanagi | again with the fantasy books xD |
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| 21:57.11 | seb__ | Hello, I would like to resurrect knode. Do you where I should get the latest source code ? |
| 21:58.02 | JanKusanagi | you should start by going to the developer channel |
| 21:58.05 | JanKusanagi | #kde-devel |
| 21:58.26 | seb__ | Thanks JanKusanagi |
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