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| 03:29.57 | Aussie_matt | hey guys, I'm looking at registering for a webinar tomorrow, but I just want to capture the audio from it, does kde have an easy way to do that? |
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| 03:41.16 | jankusanagi_ | KWave? |
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| 04:06.35 | Aussie_matt | jankusanagi_: let me check that :) |
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| 04:25.40 | Aussie_matt | I was able to get audacity to do it after some stuffing around |
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| 10:24.10 | alexkde | Hi! In Plasma 5.18.5 / Framework 5.70.0, I can no longer find the KCM to set a specific GTK theme in the system settings. Is it gone? Does now all apps use the same single theme? |
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| 10:26.41 | kevincs | alexkde: In Appearance -> Application Style -> (bottom) Configure GNOME/GTK |
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| 10:36.50 | alexkde | Thanks kevincs, found it; though it used to be somwhere else before. :) |
| 10:39.05 | kevincs | yeah, it used to be in the side panel |
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| 10:55.32 | kubast2 | Hey guys, dolphin 20.04.1 kde framework 5.70.0, qt 5.14.2; I would like to introduce a feature request |
| 10:56.00 | kubast2 | I will explain what I mean, basically moving files from bind mounted locations, causes a full file copy to occur |
| 10:56.15 | kubast2 | as in I have a location where I mount my hdd in |
| 10:56.40 | kubast2 | and then I bind mount folders to /home so that most of my .files are on ssd to accelerate everyday use |
| 10:57.00 | kubast2 | so now I go to for example Downloads/SomeBigFile |
| 10:57.07 | kubast2 | and move it to Movies/SomeBigFile |
| 10:57.30 | kubast2 | and it triggers a full copy even though those are 2 different bind mounts/mount spaces, they relate to the same partition on the /dev |
| 10:57.45 | kubast2 | you know so if I go to where I mount my hdd and do that operation from there |
| 10:58.02 | kubast2 | it takes perceived instant to move it |
| 10:58.11 | kubast2 | but if I do it from /home it takes a large chunk of time |
| 10:58.36 | kubast2 | I will put that bugs.kde.org soon but I wanted to let you guys know here |
| 10:59.51 | kubast2 | I will provide a short video to my bug/feature request |
| 10:59.57 | kubast2 | to ilustrate my issue better |
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| 11:01.16 | kubast2 | I will initially put it on dolphin but I think it was part of the file.so/kio |
| 11:01.25 | kubast2 | arch linux |
| 11:03.28 | kubast2 | hmm maybe it is a thing with linux kernel let me check first if it is actually just |
| 11:03.48 | kubast2 | well i will just use coreutils mv tbf to test this so not really a fair test |
| 11:05.35 | kubast2 | mv Videos/ Downloads/ <takes long time mv /hdd/$(whoami)/Videos /hdd/$(whoami)/Downloads |
| 11:05.41 | kubast2 | the 2nd one is instant |
| 11:05.51 | kubast2 | and they both relate to the same partition from bind mount |
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| 11:07.51 | kubast2 | okay so bind mounting causes "realpath" -P and -L to return the bind mounted path |
| 11:07.58 | kubast2 | so the target location always |
| 11:08.12 | kubast2 | so maybe there's some other way to resolve it in userspace |
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| 11:08.34 | kubast2 | hmm maybe I should first check direct call to move a file |
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| 11:18.57 | kubast2 | okay so a rename move is impossible with bind mounts |
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| 11:19.32 | kubast2 | or I am using glibc and it sets it is own errno but I doubt it some are almost directly executed syscalls wrappers |
| 11:22.00 | kubast2 | so rename(2) can't be used(at least with glibc) to move[rename()] across 2 bind mounted locations(I bind mount folders on /hdd/$(whoami)/{Downloads, Pictures} etc. to ~/{Downloads, Pictures} basically okay |
| 11:22.11 | kubast2 | ./a.out |
| 11:22.11 | kubast2 | 18 Invalid cross-device link |
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| 11:22.28 | kubast2 | int result = rename("test2", "test");fprintf(stderr, "%d %s" ,errno ,strerror(errno)); |
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| 11:25.41 | kubast2 | I will decide to not send this feature request maybe it should be something done in a kernel space |
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| 12:23.07 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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| 12:37.28 | blaise | BluesKaj: o/ |
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| 12:58.04 | ShalokShalom | hi |
| 12:58.13 | ShalokShalom | does anybody use kdenlive with gpu rendering? |
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| 13:24.16 | kubast2 | so |
| 13:24.21 | kubast2 | I think it might be that I am a dubmass |
| 13:24.23 | kubast2 | dumbass |
| 13:24.29 | kubast2 | rbind instead of bind might be my fix |
| 13:24.34 | kubast2 | I will check |
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| 13:30.03 | kubast2 | actually |
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| 13:30.18 | kubast2 | it might not work the way I think the "recursive" bind mount works yet but I will have to verify |
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| 13:30.49 | kubast2 | okay |
| 13:30.52 | kubast2 | I see the problem with my test |
| 13:30.56 | kubast2 | I need to copy in the file |
| 13:31.10 | kubast2 | otherwise I am a dumbass and trying to move a path that is mounted in |
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| 13:33.10 | kubast2 | and yeah I tried to move the file/folder within said folders to within said folders not move themself with dolphin |
| 13:33.51 | kubast2 | okay errno returns 18 even if I try to rename() |
| 13:33.53 | kubast2 | makes sense |
| 13:34.05 | kubast2 | since it still is a between devices copy well now for rbind test |
| 13:36.00 | kubast2 | okay rbind is the same I expected that a bit |
| 13:36.20 | kubast2 | cya |
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| 16:07.27 | Qik | Hi, do you guys know any good programs like Remmina ? |
| 16:08.26 | gldsrc | hello, I wanted to know if other people have the same issue as me, when using ark to extract a file into dolphin, if a file of the same name exist, the "do you want to replace" dialog won't show the file sizes, soemtimes it will say 0 B for both |
| 16:09.22 | Qik | @gldsrc, it doesnt happen to me, i unpacked several times today replacing files and i am sure it showed up the sizes correctly |
| 16:09.45 | gldsrc | the weird thign is doesn't always happen, so it makes it harder to debug |
| 16:11.42 | IsaacA-M | dumb question but have you verified they aren't zero bytes? only time I've had that happen is when they're actually empty |
| 16:15.47 | Qik | any alternatives with simillar functionality to Remmina ? |
| 16:17.31 | IsaacA-M | TigerVNC is quite nice |
| 16:17.39 | Qik | but its onyl for VNC |
| 16:17.50 | Qik | Remmina also has RDP and SSH |
| 16:18.14 | IsaacA-M | what's wrong with Remmina? |
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| 16:21.46 | Qik | Remmina is on GTK |
| 16:21.56 | Qik | and GTK programs are difficult to resize on KDE |
| 16:22.07 | Qik | and i have to have a GTK theme that matches my QT theme |
| 16:22.08 | Qik | aaah |
| 16:22.38 | IsaacA-M | what plasma release are you running? I thought all those issues have been fixe |
| 16:22.54 | IsaacA-M | uploaded an image: image.png (9KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/xjNQbqauwnSiIHTqTpJxHKSp > |
| 16:22.59 | IsaacA-M | I have shadows and cna resize just fine |
| 16:24.18 | jankusanagi_ | even stupid CSD programs should be easy to resize under Plasma, via Alt+RMB |
| 16:24.44 | Qik | i am on Kubuntu 19.10 |
| 16:24.52 | Qik | i think it has Plasma 5.16 |
| 16:25.01 | Qik | i know alt rmb |
| 16:25.13 | Qik | but i am used to using the cursor to resize |
| 16:25.38 | Qik | and even if i could |
| 16:25.48 | Qik | it still doesnt adress the fac that i need a matching GTK theme |
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| 16:27.09 | IsaacA-M | you should add the kubuntu-backports repo Qik |
| 16:27.18 | IsaacA-M | latest is 5.18.5 |
| 16:28.18 | IsaacA-M | I just use adwaita I'm not too bothered by apps looking different |
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| 16:30.00 | Qik | well i am because i have OCD |
| 16:30.53 | IsaacA-M | what about KRDC? |
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| 16:31.20 | Qik | KRDC doesnt have SSH |
| 16:31.31 | Qik | it only has VNC and RDP |
| 16:31.46 | IsaacA-M | has VNC and RDP, no ssh you can just do that in terminal |
| 16:32.18 | Qik | i know, but if i do that in terminal i have to store the ips, user names and which key file to use separately |
| 16:32.24 | Qik | which is cumbersome |
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| 16:32.50 | Qik | in Remmina you can save SSH, RDP and VNC connections, you just click and it does it |
| 16:33.01 | Qik | it can even do an SSH port tunnel and then do VNC |
| 16:34.22 | IsaacA-M | just set up an ssh confi gfile |
| 16:34.34 | IsaacA-M | https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-custom-connection-options-for-your-ssh-client |
| 16:35.27 | Qik | but its still separate from VNC and RDP then |
| 16:35.35 | Qik | its not all in one place nicely like in remmina |
| 16:36.01 | IsaacA-M | yeah well idk what to tell you otherwise |
| 16:36.14 | IsaacA-M | can either fix your gtk theme and update plasma or use krdc, I don't know of any other alternatives |
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| 16:38.48 | Qik | i dont know how to fix or make a gtk theme |
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| 16:40.11 | IsaacA-M | by fix I meant find one that matches |
| 16:40.21 | IsaacA-M | or just use adwaita on dark mode or whatever |
| 16:40.26 | Qik | impossible |
| 16:40.44 | Qik | ii already wasted much more time than i d like to admit on searching for a matching one |
| 16:40.52 | IsaacA-M | you can set a custom color scheme for the breeze gtk in newer plasma versions |
| 16:41.21 | IsaacA-M | well guess you're screwed then unless you can tolerate breeze with a matching color scheme |
| 16:41.45 | IsaacA-M | or adwaita or whatever other gtk themes are out there |
| 16:41.53 | IsaacA-M | the resize handles and shadows are fixed in newest plasma |
| 16:41.57 | Qik | what i am using is Breeze with a colorscheme |
| 16:42.18 | Qik | but there arent any GTK Breeze`s that match |
| 16:42.36 | IsaacA-M | if you use the breeze gtk theme it'll respond to new colors in newer versions of plasma |
| 16:42.36 | IsaacA-M | afaik |
| 16:42.40 | IsaacA-M | yeah there are |
| 16:43.14 | IsaacA-M | https://github.com/KDE/breeze-gtk |
| 16:43.42 | Qik | i have plasam 5.16 |
| 16:43.55 | Qik | and do-dist-upgrade |
| 16:44.00 | IsaacA-M | that's why I said update with backports repo |
| 16:44.07 | Qik | tells me i cant update to 20.04 right now |
| 16:45.04 | IsaacA-M | sent a long message: < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/kde.modular.im/dcb659ddc7a47425664ffa4e32042a19be19b2bf > |
| 16:45.21 | IsaacA-M | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports |
| 16:45.36 | Qik | wont that break my install ? |
| 16:45.58 | IsaacA-M | very well could |
| 16:46.48 | IsaacA-M | make a full disk backup with dd if you're concerned |
| 16:47.21 | Qik | i dont have anywhere to backup to |
| 16:47.42 | Qik | i have a total of 25GB free on both my machines |
| 16:47.52 | IsaacA-M | well idk what to tell you then |
| 16:48.15 | IsaacA-M | don't install it if you're concerned about losing your install |
| 16:48.39 | IsaacA-M | just gonna have to deal with crappy borders |
| 16:49.04 | Qik | is there any info online where it will be possible to do-dist-upgrade to 20.04 LTS ? |
| 16:49.13 | Qik | couse 20.04 has plasma 5.18 iirc |
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| 16:50.08 | IsaacA-M | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.08 | IsaacA-M | you should be able to.. |
| 16:50.24 | Qik | it says there arent new versions available |
| 16:50.48 | IsaacA-M | I think what you're looking for is actually `sudo do-release-upgrade`, not `sudo do-dist-upgrade` |
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| 16:52.22 | Qik | yeach i am sorry |
| 16:52.25 | Qik | i meant release |
| 16:52.50 | Qik | i often mix thoose up |
| 16:53.22 | IsaacA-M | if it hasn't been released for some reason you can `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` but i should let you upgrade the normal way.. |
| 16:54.15 | Qik | yes but -d is a "take your risk" option |
| 16:54.22 | Qik | and judging by my luck |
| 16:54.28 | Qik | it means "break your install" |
| 16:54.34 | IsaacA-M | yeah April 23 was when it released |
| 16:54.39 | IsaacA-M | you shouldnt have to do -d |
| 16:54.40 | IsaacA-M | can you add -c instead to check for new release? |
| 16:55.49 | Qik | will try once the laptop charges up |
| 16:55.53 | Qik | its dead now |
| 16:56.25 | IsaacA-M | yeah well idk what to tell you then |
| 16:56.46 | Qik | wait i think i can turn it on |
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| 16:56.59 | Qik | might have enough battery to start |
| 16:57.37 | IsaacA-M | doing a release upgrade on 0% battery sounds like a really bad idea |
| 16:57.59 | Qik | just booted it up, its on 90% |
| 16:58.09 | Qik | i thought it was dead |
| 16:58.17 | Qik | and yea -c reports i can go to 20.04 |
| 16:58.25 | IsaacA-M | ah |
| 16:58.31 | Qik | can i trust it to not break the install ? |
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| 16:59.01 | IsaacA-M | -c is just checking for new |
| 16:59.10 | IsaacA-M | you should be able to do it normal now |
| 16:59.13 | Qik | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.20 | Qik | without -d |
| 16:59.31 | Qik | can i trust it to not bream my install ? |
| 16:59.31 | IsaacA-M | idk |
| 16:59.34 | IsaacA-M | I don't use ubuntu |
| 16:59.55 | IsaacA-M | idk |
| 17:00.01 | IsaacA-M | it's been out for 2 months now so I assume so |
| 17:01.08 | Qik | ok i went with it |
| 17:04.45 | dufferzafar | is there a way to launch an application on a particular virtual desktop? |
| 17:04.59 | dufferzafar | i dont' mean via KWIN window rules |
| 17:05.11 | dufferzafar | because that will be a permanent rule |
| 17:05.25 | dufferzafar | i just want to do it once via the command line |
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| 17:08.41 | dufferzafar | looks like kstart5 is what i want |
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| 17:14.13 | dufferzafar | kstart5 --desktop 4 --windowclass kitty kitty worked! |
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| 17:16.10 | ComputerKid | Nice! |
| 17:16.51 | jankusanagi_ | good to know =) |
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| 17:58.29 | Qik | Yup |
| 17:58.42 | Qik | release upgrade to 20.04 worked |
| 17:58.44 | Qik | no issues |
| 17:58.57 | Qik | only thing i noticed is that Atom IDE was removed |
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| 18:52.30 | mkru | How can I pass extra arguments to application launcher in shortcuts? I do not see any option for this. |
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| 19:00.34 | jankusanagi_ | ? |
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| 19:05.08 | mkru | I would like to create shortcut for `tilix -q`. I have created shortcut for tilix, but I can see any way to pass extra argument. |
| 19:06.20 | jankusanagi_ | how have you created this shortcut? launchers created via KMenuEdit have a "command" field, you just put the whole command you want in there... |
| 19:08.18 | mkru | Global Shortcuts -> Application Launcher -> + |
| 19:08.48 | jankusanagi_ | I think you're confusing things... |
| 19:08.59 | mkru | might be 5 minutes on KDE |
| 19:09.05 | jankusanagi_ | (on Plasma) |
| 19:09.26 | jankusanagi_ | the global shortcut(s) for Application launcher, is just the keys you press to ACTIVATE the application launcher |
| 19:12.33 | mkru | what does it mean to activate application launcher? |
| 19:12.42 | jankusanagi_ | the same as clicking on it |
| 19:12.56 | jankusanagi_ | the icon usually placed at the bottom left of Plasma's default panel |
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| 19:16.16 | mkru | Ok, so first I create an entry in kmenuedit and then add global shortcut for Application launcher, am I correct? |
| 19:16.42 | jankusanagi_ | KMenuEdit already has a tab to set the shortcut for each launcher |
| 19:16.50 | jankusanagi_ | but yes, that's how I'd do it |
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| 19:25.06 | mkru | I have realized that sometimes after setting some shortcut it does not work, I have to restart. |
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| 19:27.25 | jankusanagi_ | the KMenuEdit way used to work as soon as you pressed Save... not sure what's up with that now |
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