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| 00:29.01 | Thr0r | Hi! So I just updated from 19.04 to Distro: Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine). I had hoped you had solved the problems with using a second monitor (HDMI). Before the screen suddenly went crazy and had to hard reboot to fix it. Now The first thing I stumbled upon was when I tried to switch user - the screen split into 4 and was completely unreadable - had to hard reboot.. Are you having problems with the handeling og a second screen - in 2020 - still? |
| 00:30.04 | Thr0r | I Just tried to ask that Q posted above in #kubuntu - no one seems to know - anyone here knows? |
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| 01:22.13 | Chaekyung | lots of browser windows and things open: xfwm4 --replace results in 4050 MB GPU memory, kwin --replace instantly increases that to 5600 MB. |
| 01:23.00 | Chaekyung | That's quite a lot of additional graphics memory, isn't it |
| 01:23.22 | Chaekyung | And with openbox it's 3332M |
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| 01:24.36 | Chaekyung | I know it has the compositing but 2.3 GB video memory to play kwin seems like a lot imho |
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| 02:23.10 | silverwhitefish | greetings, in the window title bar there is a pin that activates 'show on all desktops' feature, is this set in the theme or can this be changed within system settings? I would like to change the pin to activate the 'keep above others' feature. The closest setting i can find to accomplish this is within 'System-Settings -> Window Behavior -> Titlebar Actions' and setting the Mouse wheel to 'Keep above/below'... oddly enough none of the other feature |
| 02:23.12 | silverwhitefish | sets have this setting assigned to them. Otherwise i have to right click on the window titlebar and within 'more actions' enable the feature per window there... |
| 02:24.32 | jankusanagi__ | as I said, it's a window manager feature, you can change it from Plasma's system settings, under the Window Decorations section |
| 02:24.35 | Jucato-M | silverwhitefish: in System Settings > Application Style > Window Decorations > Titlebar Buttons tab, you can drag and drop items |
| 02:25.40 | silverwhitefish | super thank you... found it :p |
| 02:26.15 | jankusanagi__ | yw |
| 02:27.16 | jankusanagi__ | Jucato-M: you don't believe in giving the fishing rod, do you? xD |
| 02:28.36 | Jucato-M | you're not allowed to go out and fish these days. so direct fish delivery is safest :P |
| 02:29.21 | Jucato-M | but also, it may not be in the most intuitive place (i actually tried looking at it first in the Window Behavior section because forgot already where things are these days :P) |
| 02:32.01 | silverwhitefish | yeah i pined the notification box and it keeps it open above other windows so i assumed it might be within the theme |
| 02:33.54 | silverwhitefish | speaking of which i can hold the meta key and drag the notification box to resize it. so far ive only been able to resize it to 1/3 of the screen width... and this has to be done every session. Is there an alternative way to resize the notification box? |
| 02:36.09 | silverwhitefish | i think i have to edit global shortcuts and set a key bind for resizing... |
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| 02:39.19 | silverwhitefish | yeah that works ok thank you all very much. There is not other desktop like kde with plasma. i love you all and thank you so much |
| 02:39.34 | jankusanagi__ | what's "the notification box"? the popup that opens from the notifications widget? |
| 02:39.40 | silverwhitefish | yeah |
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| 02:40.33 | jankusanagi__ | I feel your version of Plasma Desktop might be slightly old... |
| 02:40.36 | Jucato-M | normally that can't be resized at all afaik. what you're using is the global shortcut for resizing windows (which is what the popup is). but it will revert to its set size eventually |
| 02:40.43 | silverwhitefish | system tray |
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| 02:42.30 | silverwhitefish | it is :( but im not telling debian to update it... id rather compile the latest version myself. the deb team will eventually get there |
| 02:43.04 | silverwhitefish | yes it reverts back every session... |
| 02:43.45 | silverwhitefish | it seemed like a hack but it accomplishes what is needed. To show my volume controls in a tiny little box didn't make any sense... |
| 02:44.12 | silverwhitefish | now i just resized it to 400x996 and opens to the far left on screen 3 |
| 02:44.21 | silverwhitefish | very readable it has become |
| 02:45.11 | silverwhitefish | far right* |
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| 04:24.56 | mattfly | Dolphin video preview on the right pane isnt working to me, i mean is totally glitched and somtimes just the audio plays. https://ibb.co/kgCc3Fy i tested many video formats and sometimes is just gliching, stuck and playing the audio. |
| 04:25.02 | mattfly | Ive installed all here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dolphin#File_previews, cleaned kde cache, installed older dolphin versions. |
| 04:25.13 | mattfly | also pacman -S $(pactree -l dolphin) |
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| 08:32.51 | StIgnucius-M1 | Hi all! So, There's this bug with Gwenview that it applies color management profile 'twice' if it's set system-wide. It is already reported with some possible fix already written: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=401154 . So the system applies it once, and then, Gwenview does it second time. Should the app even care about monitor profile? I don't work with photos, but it seems to me that on Plasma you always set a |
| 08:32.52 | StIgnucius-M1 | color profile system-wide in kde kolord. If that |
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| 08:33.34 | StIgnucius-M1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:33.34 | StIgnucius-M1 | color profile system-wide in kde kolord. If that's the case, the fix seems trivial? I wanted to ask if it really is, and if someone would like to actually commit to it. |
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| 08:45.41 | Chaekyung | StIgnucius-M1: The "right" thing would be to have Gwenview check if there is anything else applying color correction before it does it |
| 08:46.04 | Chaekyung | StIgnucius-M1: People use KDE framework software like Gwenview in lots of other desktop environments |
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| 08:48.43 | Chaekyung | doesn't look like Gwenview can change the thumbnail size |
| 08:49.44 | Chaekyung | yeah I don't like Gwenview at all now that I've tried it |
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| 09:09.15 | Jucato | Chaekyung: the slider at the bottom right doesn't work? |
| 09:10.21 | Chaekyung | Jucato: It works perfectly now that you've pointed out that it is there |
| 09:10.46 | Chaekyung | Jucato: I just did ctrl+ and ctrl- which works in every other application |
| 09:10.52 | Jucato | (it's the same UI for dolphin) |
| 09:10.52 | Chaekyung | didn't notice no slider |
| 09:11.10 | Chaekyung | ctrl+ and ctrl- works in dolphin |
| 09:11.21 | asturm | it does in gwenview too. |
| 09:11.29 | asturm | as das ctrl+mouse wheel |
| 09:11.31 | asturm | *does |
| 09:11.43 | Jucato | Ctrl +/- is mapped to zooming in/out when viewing an image |
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| 09:12.10 | asturm | oh yes. true, does not zoom thumbs |
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| 09:13.33 | Chaekyung | also, pressing f doesn't make it fullscreen |
| 09:13.39 | Chaekyung | just zooms the image |
| 09:14.09 | asturm | F11 does full screen |
| 09:14.18 | Jucato | the standard KDE shortcut for going full screen is Ctrl+Shift+F (or F11) |
| 09:14.23 | Chaekyung | that's stupid |
| 09:14.35 | Chaekyung | I found that I could remap f to fullscreen in the settings, though. |
| 09:14.41 | asturm | no, you're just applying video player logic |
| 09:14.46 | Chaekyung | of course I am |
| 09:14.56 | Chaekyung | it works in geeqie too btw. |
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| 09:15.08 | asturm | which of course is the standard for shortcuts |
| 09:15.40 | asturm | the truth is we don't have an ISO standard for shortcuts |
| 09:16.35 | Chaekyung | geeqie has been around since 1998 (named gqview back then). it's the gold standard for image viewers. don't care about some zoomer opinion that I should have to bother with ctrl-shift-f when I can just press f |
| 09:16.56 | asturm | browsers use F11 for full screen for ages |
| 09:17.08 | asturm | gwenview exists for ages. |
| 09:18.04 | asturm | I don't think an application that is used for any kind of browsing (such as images) should use any single letter without modifier as a shortcut |
| 09:19.08 | asturm | it would not work in thumbnail view, anyway. |
| 09:19.30 | asturm | and then you end up with different fullscreen shortcut for thumbnail view and image view |
| 09:19.37 | asturm | just say no. |
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| 09:20.43 | Chaekyung | f works in thumbnail and image view modes once it's reassigned to do the fullscreen. doesn't work in the initial "home" view though |
| 09:21.17 | asturm | Chaekyung: so by pressing "f" I can't jump to the first image starting with the letter "f" anymore? |
| 09:21.23 | asturm | come on, don't break my workflow. |
| 09:21.40 | Jucato | good thing we can each set our own shortcuts :P |
| 09:22.11 | Chaekyung | asturm: I didn't realize it works like a file manager like that |
| 09:23.07 | Chaekyung | I guess it doesn't break my workflow since I hadn't tried gwenview since the days of KDE 3.5 before today |
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| 10:03.27 | contrapunctus | Whenever I plug in my audio interface and start JACK, KDE does show me that it's switched interfaces, but the volume up/down keys on my laptop don't seem to do anything. Any ideas on how this might be fixed? |
| 10:04.20 | contrapunctus | (Plasma v5.17.5 from Debian Testing) |
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| 10:49.46 | alterjsive | how can I stop the display manager? |
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| 10:54.17 | alterjsive | sudo service sddm stop |
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| 10:55.58 | belovarseny | a |
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| 10:56.52 | singh | Hello I'm using Kubuntu 18.04. I wanted to ask, if it is possible to not show "present window" on click a grouped application (in icon tools bar) and just show tooltip? |
| 10:59.14 | MorbidMind-M | Is there a way to force `sync` after file copy in Dolphin? |
| 10:59.49 | MorbidMind-M | I mean automatically, every time |
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| 11:07.51 | contrapunctus | alterjsive: does that still work in this age of systemd? |
| 11:09.13 | asturm | contrapunctus: depends what 'age' your system is in |
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| 11:28.34 | alterjsive | contrapunctus: yup :) |
| 11:29.14 | alterjsive | old habbits die hard :) |
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| 11:30.19 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
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| 12:20.30 | manjaro-user- | Hi, in manjaro, when in Eclipse IDE I try to File > Open Projects from Filesystem > Directory, I cannot pick a folder (but can pick a file) with kde file picker (I believe it is a bug in xdg-desktop-portal-kde) |
| 12:20.38 | manjaro-user- | Can anyone help me? |
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| 12:34.06 | xyquadrat-M | manjaro-user-: Hi, I don't have Eclipse installed, so I cannot help you with that particular bug, but if you believe that this isn't a configuration issue or a problem on the side of eclipse (maybe try with another DE if you have one around), then please report that bug on bugs.kde.org |
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| 12:35.44 | manjaro-user- | Well, a week ago everything was ok, but when the last update of manjaro (2 days ago i believe) and consequently xdg-desktop-portal-kde it started to not working |
| 12:36.01 | manjaro-user- | So I have to use the gkt file picker for now |
| 12:38.22 | xyquadrat-M | manjaro-user-: Sounds like a regression |
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| 12:41.32 | scott_tams | p_rbq_ptr_name(slow_ptr_t, barr_update)(q->slow, q->mask); \ |
| 12:41.33 | scott_tams | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.35 | scott_tams | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.36 | scott_tams | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.38 | scott_tams | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:41.42 | scott_tams | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.44 | scott_tams | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.45 | scott_tams | shit |
| 12:41.47 | scott_tams | sorry |
| 12:42.10 | scott_tams | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.42 | scott_tams | also since when does the clipboard persist a reboot?? |
| 12:44.01 | xyquadrat-M | <scott_tams "also since when does the clipboa"> you can configure that |
| 12:44.25 | xyquadrat-M | There's an option in the Klipper settings |
| 12:44.59 | scott_tams | thank you, not like it's likely to bite me again as I don't often reboot but it was still very surprising and in this case unfortunately timed :/ |
| 12:45.57 | scott_tams | fixed |
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| 13:01.56 | scott_tams | found the .vcf files at ~/.local/share/kpeoplevcard |
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| 14:12.54 | contrapunctus | Oh, hurray. The problem was, my sound setup had the audio interface for input and the onboard sound card for output. KDE had selected my audio interface as the sound card, which presented no software controls (as seen in alsamixer(1)). So I changed the 'default interface' in KDE to the onboard card, and voilà - the volume buttons control the output level once more! ð |
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| 14:18.14 | Taoki | So I decided to give Plasma Wayland a serious try for the first time. Looking pretty neat, no issues or crashes so far! Ironically there's only one silly annoyance: How do I stop the mouse cursor from becoming large when hovering over certain things?! |
| 14:20.27 | Taoki | Ah... seems I shouldn't use the "resolution dependent" option for the cursor size in Desktop Settings. Will try that and restart. |
| 14:21.12 | Hussam-M | high dpi screen? |
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| 14:34.39 | Taoki | Gave up on WL again: It's still at the stage of crashing and having weird graphical artefacts all over the place... some windows won't even open at all. |
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| 14:36.25 | jankusanagi__ | YMMV |
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| 14:49.28 | zilti-M | <Taoki "Ah... seems I shouldn't use the "> According to KDE devs, this isn't Plasma's, but your fault somehow. Same for the window flickering and focus breaking and whatnot. Sometimes you really wonder how high up on their ivory tower they are |
| 14:51.19 | jankusanagi__ | could you please expand the "somehow"? =) |
| 14:51.32 | jankusanagi__ | because things usually have an explanation |
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| 14:52.15 | Taoki | Huh. For me, if I open up more than a few windows, I start getting black square glitches or ghosting, then at some point the session simply crashed. |
| 14:52.21 | Taoki | amgdpu module BTW, figured that plays an important role. |
| 14:52.50 | Taoki | Yeah definitely don't see what would be my fault here; I just started a WL session hoping it's finally useable at this point in time. |
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| 14:55.55 | jankusanagi__ | I doubt any developer said "it's your fault!!" |
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| 15:04.06 | Taoki | I hear amdgpu.dc=0 might help with this. Can anyone else confirm? |
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| 15:27.02 | al | fwiw, i915 + wayland works fine |
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| 15:31.11 | BluesKaj | al, easy install? |
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| 16:02.20 | fattredd | I have an intermitent issue where plasmashell will freeze up for hours. The only solution I've found has been to pkill it and restart. How can I gather more info about this issue? |
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| 16:05.32 | jankusanagi__ | the plasmashell process? |
| 16:05.55 | jankusanagi__ | (I've found some people have a tendency to refer to the whole Plasma Desktop as "plasmashell"...) |
| 16:06.18 | jankusanagi__ | do you have Nvidia graphics with the proprietary driver? |
| 16:06.20 | fattredd | Yep. pkill plasmashell && plasmashell & |
| 16:06.23 | fattredd | that fixes it |
| 16:06.56 | jankusanagi__ | better to use kquitapp5 |
| 16:07.08 | fattredd | Okay, noted |
| 16:07.15 | fattredd | and yeah, nvidia drivers |
| 16:07.25 | fattredd | Proprietary i mean |
| 16:07.33 | jankusanagi__ | and your "freeze" happens after you use some game? |
| 16:07.51 | fattredd | Generally it's a game, yeah |
| 16:08.15 | fattredd | sometimes it's happened with other apps though |
| 16:08.27 | fattredd | 90% of the time something is full screen |
| 16:08.42 | fattredd | (dual monitor setup if that matters at all) |
| 16:08.42 | jankusanagi__ | so, a well known issue where nvidia proprietary drivers mess things up when a game or another program asks Plasma to stop the compositing |
| 16:08.50 | jankusanagi__ | you can setup the compositor to ignore such requests |
| 16:08.59 | fattredd | Ah. Where's that setting? |
| 16:11.16 | jankusanagi__ | in the Compositor section in Plasma's system settings |
| 16:11.58 | fattredd | Found it. Thank you! Hopefully this works |
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| 19:32.18 | mattfly | I once set up a shortcut to show the desktop but totally forgot how |
| 19:32.42 | mattfly | it isnt on settings->shortcuts |
| 19:38.00 | SGOrava | it should be there (unless it is some custom script) |
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| 19:38.33 | SGOrava | Settings > Keyboard Shortcuts > Global settings > Plasma > Show Desktop |
| 19:39.23 | SGOrava | there is also Custom shortcuts tab in which it can be hidden |
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| 19:40.43 | mattfly | actually i made that action of screen edges and i set to ctrl E |
| 19:41.02 | mattfly | @SGOrava, but i did this on an old kde and i would like to change it now |
| 19:42.27 | mattfly | and i dont have show desktop under plasma but ctrl + f12 works |
| 19:45.11 | mattfly | oh its called activity switiching ! |
| 19:45.34 | SGOrava | these are probably different things |
| 19:45.55 | SGOrava | screen edges can be adjusted in "Desktop behaviour > Screen Edges" |
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| 19:55.01 | mattfly | SGOrava, whats the name of this effect that leaves the edges of the windows transparent and blurry and shows the desktop? |
| 19:55.16 | mattfly | like when you use the show desktop of window edges, i have a shortcut set to this but idk the name |
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| 19:56.59 | jankusanagi__ | it's not a desktop effect |
| 19:57.14 | jankusanagi__ | but KWin has an action for that, with a possible shortcut to your liking |
| 19:58.21 | mattfly | ok let me see |
| 19:58.39 | SGOrava | jankusanagi__: do you also know the name ? I have no idea, the most I require from compositor is opacity/transparency |
| 19:58.47 | mattfly | i added this long ago and forgot here |
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| 19:58.50 | mattfly | where* |
| 19:58.56 | jankusanagi__ | the amazing name of the action is "Show Desktop" =) |
| 19:59.08 | jankusanagi__ | and it defaults to Meta+D |
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| 20:04.28 | fishes | hi |
| 20:04.46 | jankusanagi__ | o/ |
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| 21:19.40 | mattfly | damn, i did something with the focus in the settings and idk what it was or where but the windows are acting like they are staying on the top by default |
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| 21:28.31 | troffasky | all of them? or just one? |
| 21:29.09 | troffasky | because you can right click on a window and choose an option to always on top |
| 21:31.21 | mattfly | erverythin i open |
| 21:32.21 | mattfly | i have to then click on keep bellow others so it behaves normally loosing focus when i click on a window under it |
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| 21:32.40 | mattfly | i messed with smt of focus i dont remember quite well |
| 21:33.31 | mattfly | now the window just go darker but doesnt minimizes when it looses focus |
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