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04:53.25smcoza question about krunner - should it be remembering frequently used items and bringing them to the top of the list? eg "fire" always shows me "run fire" followed by firefox even though i always select firefox
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06:53.39isomarigreetings, I don't seem to have a folder called $KDEHOME/share/apps/. Where might it be?
06:54.02isomariI'm actually looking for $KDEHOME/share/apps/tellico/report-templates/
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06:57.50isomarinevermind. /usr/share/tellico
06:58.48hyper_ch2this is so weird: Why do I have to tell KDE three times that I want to reboot? First I go from Start Button and tell it to reboot -> a popup appears that asks me if I want to reboot, logout, cancel etc..... so I tell it to reboot again
06:59.10hyper_ch2after that it logs me out and offers me option to login again and on the bottom right I can tell it to reboot and shutdown
06:59.42hyper_ch2so teling kde throught the start menu to reboot, doesn't reboot
06:59.53hyper_ch2telling kde in the new appearing dialog to reboot, doesn't reboot
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08:04.04esjeon-Mhyper_ch2 The second one can be disabled by unticking settings > startup and shutdown > desktop session > confirm logout. The name of the option and its location is quite confusing tho.
08:04.30esjeon-MThe third one should be a bug, I guess.
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08:58.53hyper_ch2esjeon-M: thx, I'll see for the second one
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12:19.16yann-kaeligHi.
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12:20.54yann-kaeligThe dolphin search option can not find hidden files and I do not understand why
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12:25.20BluesKajyann-kaelig, dolphin>view>'show hidden files' in the context menu
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12:27.31yann-kaeligBluesKaj: Hi. Sorry my fault if I was not clear. I'm trying to find a hidden file using the "search for files and folders" but that doesn't work, even if I have select the show hidden files
12:29.22BluesKajyann-kaelig, which hidden file?
12:30.14yann-kaelig<PROTECTED>
12:30.33Jucatonot sure if Dolphin's search is based on indexing rather than straight out "find"
12:31.47BluesKajyann-kaelig, I assume you created that file?
12:32.49yann-kaeligBluesKaj: No It's a file which comes with an archive.
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13:23.19settermjdIs there a way to mount partitions during kde login?
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13:27.50achillionsettermjd: Do these show up in Removable Storage in settings?
13:28.09settermjdWill check.
13:29.02achillionThey don't have to be removable.  For me, it also shows my secondary hard drive.
13:29.14achillionSo if they show up in there, there's an option to Automount on Login.
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14:33.39Greg45hi, how do i increase buying limit on my account?
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14:34.13Greg45if i vefiry my account will it be limitless?
14:35.13FuchsGreg45: hi, you are in #kde, you probably wanted to ask this somewhere else,
14:35.20Fuchsor at least tell us what you are talking about
14:36.15Greg45on bitbargain there is a limit to buy a bitcoin. I want to buy a bit bigger amount not just for £100
14:36.22Greg45sorry i'm new here
14:37.26Greg45is it because I'm still waiting for the account to be verified?
14:37.37Fuchsno, this channel here is completely unrelated to bitbargain
14:37.41Fuchshow did you find this channel?
14:38.08Fuchsapparently they sit in #BitBargain   so you want to   /join #BitBargain
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14:39.06Greg45ok thanks
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14:39.24Fuchsyou're welcome
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14:57.39IvanDobskythe font rendering of konsole, possibly other kde apps outside of plasma is screwed
14:58.11IvanDobskyrunning konsole 19.12.0 on arch
14:58.54IvanDobskyinitially I thought that this is an issue with the qt5ct platform theme... but the problem remains when it's not used
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15:17.57xecuterhi
15:18.10xecuterhow i can edit kaffeine channel list?
15:18.10JanKusanagio/
15:18.14xecuter:)
15:19.14JanKusanagiTelevision → Channels ?
15:19.58xecuterhmmm not really. i want sort it
15:20.22xecuteri can change name. but i want manuell sort... not good in english^^
15:21.19xecuteryou know what i mean?
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15:22.26xecuterorder / sequence / succession / sequential arrangement
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15:27.43xecuterkaffeine
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15:32.02JanKusanagiyes yes, I just don't know
15:32.19JanKusanagiI don't have a DVB card, so I can't test anything beyond the main menus
15:32.26JanKusanagiI guess you've tried drag-and-drop xD
15:32.53JanKusanagiyou might want to try asking on #kaffeine
15:33.46BitterblueIvanDobsky: Are you ever going to show some screenshots?
15:33.51xecuterif i try drag and drop  --- sort in view must change into alphanumeric.... i tried and drag dropping... no change in the menu list... than i changed the ID of channel. no change in the menu list...
15:34.14xecuteri only want a list with tv tv tv tv radio radio and not radio tv radio tv
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15:37.54IvanDobskyBitterblue, probably not
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16:00.53dramforeverArch Linux, just did a system upgrade so KDE is now 5.17.5. I noticed that all text in some KDE applications got larger than the correct size. I have 1.5x display scaling, which is probably causing this. What can I do to diagnose this?
16:02.21dramforeverIt was 5.17.4. Text size too large: Dolphin, Konsole, Okular. Correct text size: chromium, vscode, hexchat.
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16:03.56ZeroCostAbstracthelp :(, how do i make the default task manager show only current monitor windows, it keeps resetting on reboot, and logout
16:03.59ZeroCostAbstractand its driving me crazy
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16:09.52Bitterbluedramforever: Those that have the problem use Qt, the others don't.
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16:12.06dramforeverLooks like this: https://i.imgur.com/gX3P330.png
16:12.32dramforeverBitterblue: Yeah, I was about to say that the three are KDE applications, but Qt is probably the more fundamental reason
16:13.55BitterblueYou can try some non-KDE application like pavucontrol-qt.
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16:14.40dramforeverI was just doing that :)
16:15.02dramforeverI tried some random Qt applications I wrote when playing around with it. Correct font size
16:15.16dramforeverSeems like there *is* something KDE specific
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16:20.47dramforeverpavucontrol-qt fine, knights not fine
16:21.43dramforeverFeels like kde apps uses a modified Qt or something...
16:24.27BitterblueThey don't, they just have more on top of Qt.
16:24.30Fuchsdramforever: Qt 5.14 by chance?
16:25.19dramforeverFuchs: yes
16:25.37Fuchsdramforever: there are some known regressions in that when it comes to KDE font rendering, with some bug reports and workarounds
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16:25.52Fuchshttps://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-80919?jql=project%20%3D%20QTBUG%20AND%20component%20%3D%20%22GUI%3A%20Font%20handling%22  and surroundings
16:25.57Fuchssee if some of the findings there help you
16:25.58dramforeverBut I think it was also 5.14 before. Didn't see that in the package manager logs
16:26.05Fuchshm
16:26.22dramforeverThank you for that link. I'll check
16:26.25Fuchswell, there is a scaling setting in KDE, but I'd be surprised if that broke in a minor update
16:26.54Fuchsnot saying it couldn't though, as I don't have any scaling monitors around I unfortunately can't really test
16:27.30Fuchshowever, bug reports like the above point out that some applications (mostly non-KDE it seems) are unafftected, so if you are lucky, you are hitting one of these (lucky because they are work-aroundable I think)
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16:29.09dramforeverIf I read that link correctly, KDE applications are 'more well-written' and use this certain option, but it triggers a bug in Qt
16:29.36dramforeverOther random Qt apps might not do it
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16:35.40dramforeverBUT: I could not reproduce this problem by adding this line to my 'playing with Qt' programs...
16:37.13dramforeverI take that back, did it wrong
16:37.39dramforeverYes if you do that you get large font... So at least I nailed the cause now
16:39.33Fuchsyay
16:39.39Fuchsmaybe you'll find a workaround
16:39.56Fuchsdowngrading Qt I wouldn't suggest, I did that on my box, and it's a pain (and that was a distribution that allows it)
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16:53.00dramforeverYay, found: env QT_ENABLE_HIGHDPI_SCALING=0 overrides that attribute
16:53.21dramforever(Source: https://phabricator.kde.org/D26185 )
16:53.41Fuchsyou might want to pass that to the packagers of whatever distribution (arch, I think?) you use
16:53.47Fuchsso that they can inform via their channels
16:53.53Fuchsas I assume you won't be the only one affected
16:54.16dramforeverYeah
16:54.32Fuchsrather brave of them to upgrade to 5.14 already anyway
16:54.49Fuchsassuming you didn't use AUR and the likes
16:55.09dramforeverIt's Arch Linux, where even the official distribution goes blazingly fast
16:55.43FuchsI'd suggest waiting a little bit on Qt releases, maybe :p
16:56.10dramforeverMaybe at least I'll try to report the issue and let everyone know about it. The workaround isn't really verified and could actually cause more problems for other people
16:56.13FuchsI use gentoo, which is similarly fast, but they have multiple slots, and Qt is usually not marked as stable right away. Anyway, best let them know, so they can put it in a FAQ or whatever
16:56.21Fuchsyeah, sounds good
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18:46.11Guest_86hello, i'm using kde neon 5.17, and i want to disable discover repos auto update. What is the current right way to do this? There is bunch of solutions on web, but all of them are outdated afaik. (cant do this via tray, no options in discover)
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20:28.26moltarI'm having a problem activating one of my monitors in settings app when I try to set the monitor to enabled it doesn't turn on and off I try to save settings it says outputs could not be saved due to error - plasma 5.17 on fedora 31.  this just started recently and all of my monitors work ok in sddm and also in gnome
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20:29.00moltarany ideas what I can do to fix this?
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20:40.56GenNomroanyone able to give me a tip on switching back to KDE after years on XFCE
20:42.21GenNomroanyone?
20:42.50SGOravahave fun
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21:56.12ZeroCostAbstractwhat do you guys use to traverse monitors quickly
21:56.27ZeroCostAbstracti'm looking for like an alt-tab that'd only switch between my two monitors
21:59.10sarnoldI use i3wm; it'd be pretty different from 'normal kde experience' though
21:59.40ZeroCostAbstractim talking about KDE specifically, the keybind for "Switch to Next Screen" doesn't seem to be doing what i want it to do
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23:17.37proctraphey, any reason why akondi_imap_resource claims 6x 2MiB of GPU-memory ?
23:17.54proctrap(persistent when closing kmail, so only akonadictl stop helps)
23:18.03proctrapI can't figure out why akonadi itself needs gpu mem
23:18.54JanKusanagimaybe the IMAP resource stores pixmaps for some reason
23:19.20JanKusanagibetter ask in #kontact I guess
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23:22.35akiklightdm drags in deepin as a dependency (fedora 30)
23:22.41akikwhat's going on?
23:23.56akikoh wrong channel sorry
23:23.58JanKusanagiask in Fedora's channels, that's really offtopic here xD
23:24.01JanKusanagiyes, that =)
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