| 00:00.23 | jankusanagi_ | funny, one of the things I dislike most about ArchLinux is the AUR xDD |
| 00:00.55 | SGOrava | I like AUR because it is better than ubuntu way of doing similar things |
| 00:01.42 | SGOrava | Arch sucks because of many reasons, one is the attidute of the developers the other the direction in which the Arch is going |
| 00:03.44 | l00pd_ | I dont thing so, #archlinux is very helpful, I ask banal questions now and then over there |
| 00:03.55 | l00pd_ | I get devs and other helping me |
| 00:04.14 | SGOrava | oh, I got banned there |
| 00:05.09 | opal | <SGOrava> What was the key point why you wanted to try Void Linux ? |
| 00:05.09 | l00pd_ | in which direction do you think Arch is going? |
| 00:05.19 | opal | had issues with arch and debian as far as glibc-based binary distros go |
| 00:05.28 | opal | i dont distro hop |
| 00:05.31 | opal | i just heard void was ok |
| 00:05.52 | SGOrava | l00pd_: in bad one |
| 00:05.58 | opal | <l00pd_> mediocre is based on what? I dont know that package manager also |
| 00:05.59 | opal | cute |
| 00:06.15 | asturm | opal: that's why my laptop consumes binpkgs, not some binary distro |
| 00:06.37 | opal | yeah im realising that gentoo is best for my needs |
| 00:07.11 | opal | before gentoo on desktop i had alpine, which worked until you needed anything proprietary |
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| 00:36.06 | noob8650 | Hey, guys, I have installed Kbuntu and my graphics tablet just isn't being detected. What do I do? I installed digimend and I rebooted. I even tried reinstalling the drivers for wacom, ( I have confirmed the tablet is detected on void linxu), what do I do? I would really like to try Kubuntu for a while. |
| 00:38.12 | SGOrava | well, first check if the tablet is detected by your kernel, it could be that you need newer kernel. Or you might need newer libraries or "drivers" |
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| 00:40.15 | SGOrava | I would check what is different in the dmesg output on Void and on Kubuntu in regard for this device |
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| 00:42.11 | noob8650 | Ah yes, dmesg is probably the key, it might just be the kernel version, yes. |
| 00:42.17 | noob8650 | Thanks fro the hint |
| 00:43.20 | noob8650 | Dmesg shows it is recognized. |
| 00:43.28 | noob8650 | Sadly, so I know it is not that. |
| 00:43.35 | noob8650 | Kubuntu 19.10 is no 5.3 anyways. |
| 00:43.41 | SGOrava | that is were I would start, get the identification from lspci or lsusb and check dmesg |
| 00:44.14 | SGOrava | than check some control program ... |
| 00:44.26 | noob8650 | Ah heck, I think I have to set up a custom rule for Xorg to use this tablet with the wacom driver I think! Man, blessed be those that can actually remember their shit. |
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| 01:18.10 | digital_mystik-M | hello.. is it possible to send files from one desktop to an external hd connected to another desktop without it going to the internal one first via KDE Connect? also is there a size limit to the files being transferred? |
| 01:18.42 | digital_mystik-M | or is rsync a better option |
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| 01:33.08 | noob8650 | SGOrava: Yeah, my Tablet is seen now, that I manually specified to Xorg that the wacomdrivers are in fact allowed to handle that tablet. |
| 01:33.24 | noob8650 | Sadly the quick access buttons still don't work. |
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| 01:34.51 | SGOrava | you might need to play with it or bother developers to add support for it |
| 01:35.17 | SGOrava | good night |
| 01:38.42 | JanKusanagi | there was somebody here just yesterday with a similar issue; tablet working, just not fully recognized |
| 01:39.04 | JanKusanagi | turns out they needed to go to the tablet settings and do some sort of setup from there |
| 01:40.33 | noob8650 | I think that is me |
| 01:40.44 | noob8650 | I am unable to make the buttons tick JanKusanagi |
| 01:41.03 | JanKusanagi | ah, right then xD |
| 01:41.17 | noob8650 | I set them up (8 of them ) in the manual setup of tablet, and then, wehn pressing them, nothing happens, |
| 01:41.21 | JanKusanagi | weird nicks certainly don't help |
| 01:41.28 | noob8650 | XEV doesn't report anything either. |
| 01:41.42 | noob8650 | >weird nicks ( I though I was picking something generic back then) |
| 01:42.28 | JanKusanagi | well, exactly... so generic, it's non-memorable xD |
| 01:45.58 | noob8650 | Heh |
| 01:46.26 | noob8650 | So, do you have any idea how it works maybe? How do the tablets send their strokes? |
| 01:46.29 | opal | asturm: kdeconnect built fine with the injected package. i'm assuming it'll work on runtime but i'll confirm here whether it works |
| 01:47.14 | opal | oh wait |
| 01:47.17 | opal | wrong channel haha |
| 01:47.22 | opal | wait no im in the right one |
| 01:47.28 | opal | god quassel isn't straightforward where i am |
| 01:47.43 | opal | one channel is highlighted, the one im not in. probably a bug i need to report |
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| 01:54.13 | noob8650 | JanKusanagi: Do you have any clue for me, or were you just curious? |
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| 01:54.42 | JanKusanagi | no, I thought it was somebody else with your problem from yesterday |
| 01:54.45 | JanKusanagi | other than that, no |
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| 02:03.45 | _CrustY | Hey guys. Just curious about your opinion: I've used i3 wm for some time and was really impressed by some features. I don't try to do something 100% same on KDE which I use currently. So, I configured all necessary shortcuts for comfortable multiple desktops support and so on. THe only 1 thing is that when I manage windows (move it from one virtual desktop to another) It just disappears. It would be nice to have a separate bindings for |
| 02:03.46 | _CrustY | move window + switch to that desktop so you wouldn't lose focus |
| 02:04.28 | _CrustY | do you think it worth to create a feature suggestion or just configure it myself? (I think it wouldn't be too hard to script move window to desktop X + switch to X) |
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| 02:07.30 | JanKusanagi | I actually have a shortcut to move a window to the next desktop, on my Plasma |
| 02:07.39 | JanKusanagi | let me see what the action is called |
| 02:08.05 | JanKusanagi | "Window to Next Desktop"... well, that was obvious xD |
| 02:09.23 | JanKusanagi | that one moves the window and switches to that other desktop at the same time |
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| 02:47.39 | JanKusanagi | you can right-click the desktop and select some other folder as "desktop folder" |
| 02:48.10 | JanKusanagi | the default should actually be ~/Desktop, not just ~/ |
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| 08:52.38 | kev_suse-M | Anyone know why keyboard layout preview for Thai language in input setting is gone? |
| 08:52.51 | kev_suse-M | uploaded an image: missing key.png (44KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/TdirXfsnRVItasvQqXVsccZv > |
| 08:52.57 | kev_suse-M | sent a long message: < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/kde.org/oSnHxohjsYBjCLathmVmvdcc > |
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| 10:42.11 | afx_ | Hello ! I just installed this : https://github.com/kwin-scripts/kwin-tiling , but nothing happens once I activate it . Can someone help me troubleshoot please? |
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| 12:38.30 | esjeon-M | afx_ are you still having that problem? |
| 12:38.49 | afx_ | esjeon-M: yes ! |
| 12:39.16 | esjeon-M | Well, mandatory checkbox: did you enable it in "kwin scripts" dialog in settings? |
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| 12:39.52 | afx_ | esjeon-M: yeap |
| 12:40.23 | esjeon-M | afx_: are you running X11 or wayland? |
| 12:40.35 | afx_ | settings>window Management > Window behaviour > Tiling Extension |
| 12:40.40 | afx_ | X11 |
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| 12:41.27 | esjeon-M | afx_: have you tried re-login or restart kwin? (`kwin_x11 --replace` on console) |
| 12:41.41 | afx_ | no! let me try |
| 12:42.14 | afx_ | ah now I got an error ~! |
| 12:42.24 | esjeon-M | what does it say? |
| 12:42.25 | afx_ | file:///home/afx/.local/share/kwin/scripts/kwin-script-tiling/contents/code/tile.js:493: TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined |
| 12:42.42 | esjeon-M | ahhh, okay, it's bugged. |
| 12:42.45 | afx_ | also lots of : qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 9 (BadDrawable), sequence: 2920, resource id: 0, major code: 14 (GetGeometry), minor code: 0 |
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| 12:42.55 | esjeon-M | those are just fine. |
| 12:43.04 | esjeon-M | the typeerror is the critical one |
| 12:43.18 | esjeon-M | you should report it to the dev through github |
| 12:43.19 | afx_ | ok |
| 12:43.24 | afx_ | so is there a workaround? |
| 12:43.44 | esjeon-M | I don't really use the script, tho I made my own one lol |
| 12:44.08 | esjeon-M | you can try it instead: https://github.com/esjeon/krohnkite |
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| 12:44.25 | afx_ | :D |
| 12:44.29 | afx_ | ok let me try |
| 12:44.42 | afx_ | first would like to check the .js file |
| 12:44.45 | afx_ | then I try yours |
| 12:44.50 | esjeon-M | k |
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| 12:47.19 | afx_ | esjeon-M: return this._activities.length == 0; |
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| 12:47.41 | afx_ | so this._activities seems to be undefined |
| 12:47.53 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
| 12:48.06 | SGOrava | BluesKaj: Welcome |
| 12:48.29 | BluesKaj | Hi SGOrava |
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| 12:49.10 | afx_ | esjeon-M: so only Default activity is enabled |
| 12:49.16 | afx_ | Could that be the problem? |
| 12:49.29 | esjeon-M | afx_: hmm, it should still work I think. |
| 12:49.52 | esjeon-M | so the script is pulling activities info from its first client |
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| 12:50.41 | esjeon-M | there gotta be another error during initialization |
| 12:51.20 | esjeon-M | initialization failed in the middle, so not all fields were populated. |
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| 12:52.12 | esjeon-M | the error should've been printed by `print(err, "in Tile");`, but I wonder if `print` function still works for QML scripts... |
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| 12:54.20 | esjeon-M | afx_: maybe you can search for "in Tile" from the output. There should be one, or the only solution is bug report. |
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| 12:56.28 | afx_ | esjeon-M: qml: TypeError: Property 'from' of object function() { [code] } is not a function in Tile |
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| 12:59.14 | esjeon-M | afx_ Array.from, it should be talking about. I've never tried using that function, since it's ECMA 6 |
| 12:59.45 | afx_ | esjeon-M: well filled a bug report https://github.com/kwin-scripts/kwin-tiling/issues/194 |
| 12:59.49 | afx_ | thank you very much ! |
| 12:59.57 | afx_ | now I will try your scipt :) |
| 13:00.19 | esjeon-M | okay :0 |
| 13:00.32 | esjeon-M | it's dwm-like, so preference works a lot here. |
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| 13:00.57 | afx_ | how can I remove the other one first? |
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| 13:03.06 | esjeon-M | uh,, you should use terminal again. |
| 13:03.07 | esjeon-M | wait a sec |
| 13:03.19 | SGOrava | I would go by suggested way in the readme and plasmapgk |
| 13:03.29 | SGOrava | https://github.com/kwin-scripts/kwin-tiling#installation |
| 13:03.30 | afx_ | esjeon-M: plasmapkg2 -t kwinscript -r kwin-script-tiling ? |
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| 13:03.53 | afx_ | SGOrava: for uninstall ? |
| 13:03.58 | esjeon-M | yup, should work. |
| 13:04.27 | SGOrava | afx_: well, same command just different switch (-i install, -u upgrade, -r remove) |
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| 13:05.45 | afx_ | plasmapkg2 --type kwinscript -r kwin-script-tilling gives : Error: Plugin is not installed |
| 13:05.57 | afx_ | :x |
| 13:06.41 | afx_ | plasmapkg2 --type kwinscript -l |
| 13:06.41 | afx_ | Listing service types: KWin/Script in /home/afx/.local/share/kwin/scripts/ |
| 13:06.41 | afx_ | kwin-script-tiling |
| 13:06.54 | afx_ | so what gives? |
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| 13:09.12 | esjeon-M | hmmm, that's pretty much all I know. Really curious why it's not working. |
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| 13:11.30 | SGOrava | plasmapkg2 -l |
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| 13:12.16 | afx_ | SGOrava: I uninstalled it like you said , by replacing -i with -r |
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| 13:14.51 | afx_ | esjeon-M: https://github.com/esjeon/krohnkite/issues/51 |
| 13:15.01 | afx_ | :) |
| 13:15.18 | afx_ | add a link to your installation instructions please , lol |
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| 13:16.45 | esjeon-M | haha, sorry. The README is initially written to be shown on the store page, so I didn't put the store link. lol |
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| 13:17.23 | esjeon-M | Still, you can install directly from git repo. |
| 13:17.28 | esjeon-M | `make install`, and that's it. |
| 13:17.38 | afx_ | just downloaded from store |
| 13:17.43 | afx_ | and it works !! |
| 13:17.51 | esjeon-M | nice to hear that. |
| 13:17.52 | afx_ | any configuration I can apply ? |
| 13:18.09 | esjeon-M | you should enable it first. it's on readme. |
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| 13:20.03 | afx_ | ok found it! |
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| 15:07.43 | andyhoang | hi guys, so I got trouble with datetime formating. So I set my Formats region is en_US, timezone Ho Chi Minh (Asia/Vietnam +7). my `date` cli result is `Thứ hai, 06 Tháng 1 nÄm 2020 22:05:43 +07` This is translated into my native language. I want it to display like `Monday, Jan....` Which config I should touch? From my understand, timezone selection shouldn't effect to language display right? My |
| 15:07.45 | andyhoang | Language config is American English, and I'm using arch. Thanks |
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| 15:28.48 | rindolf | andyhoang: hi |
| 15:29.26 | rindolf | andyhoang: this is not a kde question |
| 15:29.43 | andyhoang | ohh |
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| 15:32.28 | JanKusanagi | what's your LC_TIME? |
| 15:32.43 | SGOrava | andyhoang: I set those thing in /etc/locale.conf |
| 15:32.50 | JanKusanagi | LC_TIME is not the same as your timezone, you can have any timezone with ant LC_TIME |
| 15:32.59 | JanKusanagi | the latter will determine the date "string" |
| 15:33.47 | JanKusanagi | and Plasma lets you select a specific time setting |
| 15:36.12 | andyhoang | Sorry. I thought kde was influence the locale, but since you point out, I edited the /etc/locale.gen |
| 15:37.17 | andyhoang | I think I gonna change the /etc/locale.conf too |
| 15:39.09 | JanKusanagi | Plasma can set your user's LC_**** values, including LC_TIME |
| 15:39.16 | JanKusanagi | but that's unrelated to your timezone |
| 15:39.37 | andyhoang | do we have a GUI to do that? |
| 15:39.56 | JanKusanagi | of course, just right-click the clock on your pane |
| 15:39.59 | JanKusanagi | l |
| 15:40.04 | JanKusanagi | "Set Time Format" |
| 15:40.52 | andyhoang | Yeah, I've been try doing that before, It already use region "en_US" |
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| 15:41.25 | JanKusanagi | but I didn't say anything about Region |
| 15:41.33 | JanKusanagi | I said Time |
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| 15:45.00 | andyhoang | oh... sorry |
| 15:45.04 | andyhoang | thanks |
| 15:45.19 | andyhoang | brb |
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| 15:52.59 | andyhoang | I'm back, the format is now worked |
| 15:53.02 | andyhoang | Thanks |
| 15:53.31 | JanKusanagi | yw =) |
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| 16:06.18 | JyZyXEL | how come Ark displays UTF-8 characters as ??????? |
| 16:06.35 | JyZyXEL | at least for .rar and .7z archives this happens |
| 16:07.26 | SGOrava | it did for me when I did not have set locale |
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| 16:08.56 | JyZyXEL | oh you are right! if i start ark with LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 the filenames work |
| 16:11.04 | JyZyXEL | but i have my locale set so wtf |
| 16:11.22 | JyZyXEL | why do i have to manually set LC_ALl for ark to work correctly |
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| 16:12.59 | tanriol-M | Old archive formats tend to use some legacy encoding instead of Unicode and not write down explicitly which one... so Ark probably has to guess the encoding from external data (such as your locale). |
| 16:13.48 | SGOrava | maybe you just miss some of lc variables, now you know lc_all does the job, so dig deeper |
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| 16:15.32 | JyZyXEL | all my LC's are set to UTF-8 |
| 16:15.54 | JyZyXEL | i don't know if the kde formats are UTF-8 because it doesn't say |
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| 16:17.26 | JanKusanagi | all Plasma does is set your LC_** values |
| 16:18.44 | JyZyXEL | i set LC_CTYPE LC_NUMERIC LC_TIME LC_COLLATE LC_MONETARY LC_MESSAGES LC_PAPER LC_NAME LC_ADDRESS LC_TELEPHONE LC_MEASUREMENT LC_IDENTIFICATION in /etc/default/locale |
| 16:19.05 | JyZyXEL | and LANG, but not LANGUAGE |
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| 16:24.37 | Bitterblue | What is /etc/default/locale ? |
| 16:24.55 | Bitterblue | What program reads that? |
| 16:26.03 | JyZyXEL | i think its debians system-wide way of defining the locale environment variables |
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| 16:49.11 | SGOrava | I also have variable with only "LANG" name were I have set the language with encoding |
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| 16:58.57 | JyZyXEL | yeah i have LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and LANGUAGE= |
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| 17:12.42 | JyZyXEL | eh.. there is another locale file called .config/plasma-localerc |
| 17:13.10 | JyZyXEL | its some older outdated version that differs from my current /etc/default/locale |
| 17:13.58 | JyZyXEL | or is this the configuration that is displayed under plasma Formats |
| 17:14.10 | JyZyXEL | because it's missing a bunch of LC_'s |
| 17:14.32 | JyZyXEL | oh wtf there is even a third one called .config/plasma-locale-settings.sh |
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| 19:29.46 | MoneyFREE | Hello ppl!! OMG there is free money and Bitcoin here!! : https://freebitco.in/?r=599908 |
| 19:30.17 | Bitterblue | lol |
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| 19:41.18 | SGOrava | MoneyFREE: there is always a catch |
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| 19:42.09 | JanKusanagi | are you seriously replying to the spammer? xDDD |
| 19:42.32 | JanKusanagi | (who's thankfully been banned quickly, btw...) |
| 19:44.04 | SGOrava | JanKusanagi: why not ? I had disabled the join/left messages because of too much spam... |
| 19:44.54 | JanKusanagi | I only get "left" messages from people who've spoken in the last "xx" minutes, xx being whatever I want; it's a great setting |
| 19:45.04 | JanKusanagi | anyway, my main point was about replying to a spammer xD |
| 19:46.23 | SGOrava | I do that once in a while |
| 19:46.54 | makr8100 | hey I want free money :( |
| 19:49.46 | JanKusanagi | then go to that link... it seems SO LEGIT! xD |
| 19:49.59 | asturm | what could possibly go wrong |
| 19:50.26 | JanKusanagi | nothing at all. Clearly there are very nice people in the world =) |
| 19:53.16 | skryking | looks like some sort of gambling site with a casino and dice games... pays out in bitcoin... wonder if it ever truely pays out |
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| 19:54.07 | JanKusanagi | wow, people actually click on that... |
| 19:54.31 | JanKusanagi | thankfully, browsers are the most secure thing on the planet! |
| 19:54.50 | skryking | I didn't click on it... downloaded it with curl and looked at the source code |
| 19:55.36 | skryking | If I was going to do that I would have fired up a VM and downloaded it in that to watch it explode |
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| 20:08.49 | SGOrava | Good night |
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| 20:26.46 | ccolorado | Hi, how can I make a mouse gesture trigger an action from the "Screen Edges" ? Either trigger present windows or an edge like "top-right" |
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| 20:32.15 | JanKusanagi | you don't need any gesture to trigger a screen edge, just push the cursor towards it to activate whatever action's configured |
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| 20:35.33 | ccolorado | JanKusanagi: I just want it to be consistent with the stupid mac I have to use now where swipe up is a present windows. |
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| 20:41.24 | madprops | how am i supposed to minimize a window using http://i.imgur.com/dQhKuMI.png (if i don't have decorations) .. i mean i can just use F3 but maybe a minimize button next to the X Close button could be useful |
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| 21:16.57 | JanKusanagi | using what? that µscreenshot without any context is not very helpful xD |
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| 21:21.36 | sarnold | I had to wonder if that was the intent of the microscreenshot |
| 21:29.27 | ccolorado | madprops: I didn't undertand your issue |
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| 22:21.06 | goldenshimmer-M | I think they mean when the task bar button has combined multiple windows from an app into a single button, clicking it opens a drawer of windows, rather than minimizing the window. |
| 22:24.18 | goldenshimmer-M | madprops: If you use a two button mouse, you can right click that task bar button, and choose Minimize from the context menu; it will minimize the group of windows. |
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| 22:25.39 | madprops | goldenshimmer-M, yeah, but in this case i wanted to minimize a particular window |
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| 22:27.13 | goldenshimmer-M | madprops: Oh, left click the button to open the list of individual windows, then right click and choose Minimize for the specific one you want. It's not as easy as having a minimize button on the hover-preview would be, since you can't see the thumbnail of the window you're minimizing, but it might help |
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