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| 00:00.29 | Fester^ | Eddi|zuHause: Was the corruption on other parts of your OS? |
| 00:01.13 | Fester^ | Not that this is actually the problem, but /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/default/widgets/viewitem.svgz may be corrupt |
| 00:01.55 | Fester^ | gunzip -c /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/default/widgets/viewitem.svgz should display SVG to your terminal |
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| 01:53.46 | Eddi|zuHause | Fester^: there was no corruption on /, as far as i can tell, and that file seems fine in gwenview |
| 01:54.51 | Eddi|zuHause | and it's alphabetically the last item in that directory, so probably completely unrelated to whatever came next |
| 01:58.09 | hussam | What is needed for dolphin to show pdf thumbnails? |
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| 02:02.43 | JanKusanagi | I'm not sure it can... |
| 02:03.08 | hussam | Ok. |
| 02:03.32 | JanKusanagi | at least mine doesn't have PDF under the preview settings |
| 02:04.12 | Eddi|zuHause | i would have assumed it uses some kind of plugin system where you could provide different thumbnail-makers |
| 02:04.41 | sarnold | the arch wiki suggests you may be right about plugins https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dolphin#File_previews |
| 02:05.33 | JanKusanagi | I'm checking one possibly-related package over here, let's see |
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| 02:06.06 | hussam | I'm running arch. |
| 02:06.22 | hussam | on several machines. |
| 02:06.27 | sarnold | oh nice then the instructions are more directly useful to you :) hehe |
| 02:06.53 | sarnold | arch wiki is often the most up to date of the various distro wikis but sometimes it's not terribly useful, package names differ, or are built differently, etc.. |
| 02:07.32 | Eddi|zuHause | it depends how well you can extrapolate those things |
| 02:07.52 | hussam | I know. I have gnome, xfce, and now kde on my third desktop installed via directions from arch wiki. |
| 02:08.20 | JanKusanagi | yep, indeed, installing kdegraphics-thumbnailers (in Mageia) adds the option to preview PDF |
| 02:08.28 | sarnold | yeah; normally it works well enough that I keep visiting arch wiki to learn things :) |
| 02:09.25 | hussam | ok, I can see pdf previews now. |
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| 02:28.50 | anug | hi, i have added google accounts and still dont see gdrive in dolphin. and i have kio-gdrive installed. im using solus KDE |
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| 04:38.14 | Triffid_Hunter | Pushed an updated patch for bug #394119 if anyone's interested |
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| 06:24.11 | AciD` | naveen â¹ it's a bit basic |
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| 12:15.21 | BluesKaj | HI folks |
| 12:16.08 | SGOrava | welcome |
| 12:17.41 | rindolf | BluesKaj: hi, sup? |
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| 12:19.03 | BluesKaj | hey rindolf, just reading some articles here https://hckrnews.com/ |
| 12:20.59 | rindolf | BluesKaj: ah - is it news.ycombinator.com? |
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| 12:21.40 | BluesKaj | nope |
| 12:22.12 | BluesKaj | not that I know of |
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| 13:01.02 | SusseLinuxx | anyone got an idea how the Chinese language is called under KDE in the "Add Language" dialog? |
| 13:01.18 | SusseLinuxx | I mean add keyboard layout |
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| 13:03.28 | JanKusanagi | in they Keyboard module in Plasma's system settings I can select "chi" in the "Limit selection by language" list |
| 13:03.56 | JanKusanagi | which then filters the "Layout" list to only have "Chinese" |
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| 13:07.59 | SusseLinuxx | JanKusanagi, I found it under "Any language," but this one has English letters on the keys - nothing to do with Chinese |
| 13:09.04 | JanKusanagi | well, AFAIK, to actually enter chinese characters, you need to setup an IM for that, ibus, KIMpanel and the like |
| 13:09.39 | SGOrava | UIM - input method... |
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| 13:09.44 | SGOrava | IM |
| 13:15.36 | SusseLinuxx | SGOrava - nothing in there |
| 13:15.44 | SusseLinuxx | trying to read some articles |
| 13:15.52 | SusseLinuxx | already installed the language |
| 13:16.04 | SusseLinuxx | but it's not suggested in the input methods |
| 13:19.59 | SusseLinuxx | I found something: fcitx-zhuyin |
| 13:20.04 | SusseLinuxx | I may be getting somewhere |
| 13:21.09 | SusseLinuxx | oops, no - that's already installed, the question is how I get it to appear in my keyboard layout options |
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| 13:48.27 | Eddi|zuHause | uhm... there's also an older .kde4/share/apps/activitymanager/resources/database that seems to be imported... :/ |
| 13:48.45 | SusseLinuxx | what is the name of the input switcher on KDE? |
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| 13:48.49 | SusseLinuxx | fcitx? |
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| 14:03.32 | Eddi|zuHause | oh, i've got some semi-success... after removing .cache/plasmashell, it seems to start up |
| 14:05.38 | SusseLinuxx | anyone know anything about input methods? |
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| 14:11.37 | SusseLinuxx | anyway I got it somehow working... |
| 14:11.56 | SusseLinuxx | except that my Chinese input is now listed under English |
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| 14:32.41 | SGOrava | SusseLinuxx:https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Localization/Chinese |
| 14:33.06 | SGOrava | the archwiki might be of some help, there is a table with links on the methods and programs used to set it up |
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| 15:21.08 | hussam | Hi. I am running plasma 5.17 and kde applications 19.08 from arch linux repo. when I open the "open file" dialog, it hangs for a while. |
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| 15:21.51 | hussam | any idea how I can tell what is happening? |
| 15:22.24 | hussam | something is stuck at 0% loading. |
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| 15:23.23 | JanKusanagi | do you have any external drives connected? |
| 15:23.30 | JanKusanagi | network shares mounted? |
| 15:23.51 | hussam | JanKusanagi: a secondary hard disk (also running arch linux but has xfce installed). |
| 15:24.16 | hussam | it is mounted in /home/hussam/myotherdisk |
| 15:24.21 | JanKusanagi | if the system is not actively using that one, it might go to sleep |
| 15:24.36 | JanKusanagi | and be waken up by things like the filepicker |
| 15:24.53 | hussam | that makes sense. |
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| 15:25.30 | hussam | but it happens consecutively. for example, from okular and 30 seconds later from ark. |
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| 15:34.21 | hussam | JanKusanagi: the same happens with dolphin. Can I somewhow make it show debug information over what is happening? |
| 15:35.01 | JanKusanagi | maybe you can launch Okular, for instance, from Konsole, and it might output something |
| 15:35.16 | hussam | It doesn't unforunately. |
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| 15:51.14 | hussam | JanKusanagi: my baloo database is 403MB. Can that be it? |
| 15:52.02 | asturm | mine is 13GB |
| 15:52.14 | hussam | That's not it, then. |
| 15:53.15 | SGOrava | maybe it is making previews ? |
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| 15:57.04 | hussam | SGOrava: maybe. generation of thumbnails or reading from cache? |
| 15:57.09 | JanKusanagi | whoa, 13 GiB of Baloo database xDDDD |
| 15:57.50 | asturm | yep. |
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| 17:17.45 | garotosopa | Hi. I've just noticed that Transmission's icon in the notification area doesn't follow the same visual identity of other Plasma icons. Considering that I'm incapable of drawing it myself, is it wise to file a bug report? If so, to which package/component should it be filed? |
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| 17:25.47 | SGOrava | transmission gtk or qt ? |
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| 17:38.06 | hussam | Can I hide the document map in kwrite? |
| 17:41.33 | hussam | I found it under borders in settings. |
| 17:41.52 | garotosopa | SGOrava: transmission-qt |
| 17:42.33 | SGOrava | hussam: minimap ? I cant live without it |
| 17:43.12 | hussam | I'm used to vim. |
| 17:46.57 | JanKusanagi | minimap rox =) |
| 17:47.39 | hussam | Is it normal for screen lockers to block power button input? Both kde's screenlocker and xfce4-screensaver on my second hard disk block power button if the session is locked. |
| 17:48.40 | SGOrava | no idea, I disabled power button because I have laptop and I pressed it many times by accident... |
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| 17:49.53 | hussam | it works if the session is not locked |
| 17:50.11 | JanKusanagi | I disabled the power button on this *desktop* machine |
| 17:50.33 | JanKusanagi | and removed the wire for the reset button =) |
| 17:50.51 | hussam | That's one way to fix it. |
| 17:51.25 | SGOrava | workarounds are ultimate solutions |
| 17:51.28 | JanKusanagi | the power button is disabled via Plasma's settings, since I don't need it and don't want to press it accidentally |
| 17:51.44 | JanKusanagi | the _reset_ button cannot be configured and it's a real killer, so I removed its wire :D |
| 17:53.12 | SGOrava | for the wrong icon... probably bother icon theme creators (whatever you use), I think I am using some breeze-dark icon theme... and it looks fine |
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| 18:42.56 | dreamerx-M | <hussam "Is it normal for screen lockers "> I guess its a security issue lets say you got a hosted server on your system and someone comes in your room and doesnt want to hear the noise from your system he can power it down and you loose your server or anything you left it doing |
| 18:43.46 | dreamerx-M | but then again there is the physical button or if its a tower there is the switch and power cord so I think it is only usefull on a laptop where you have disabled the power button functionality |
| 18:44.22 | dreamerx-M | for the button to be there in lock screen and disabled that means you can enable it somewhere in security settings |
| 18:44.59 | SGOrava | even on laptops, if you hold it for a while it will force poweroff |
| 18:45.32 | dreamerx-M | I think you can disable that too maybe in bios? |
| 18:46.03 | SGOrava | maybe, maybe I have too shitty laptop... |
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| 18:49.36 | dreamerx-M | I see in a thread that this is an option in BIOS in some servers |
| 18:50.37 | thiago | I wouldn't |
| 18:50.47 | thiago | if you have a hard crash, it's one of the ways of coming back |
| 18:50.58 | thiago | other than to unplug and wait for the battery to run out |
| 18:51.08 | dreamerx-M | if you have a pc you could remove the pin of the power button and when you want to start the pc to physicly add the pin or just bridge the pins somehow if it is a laptop you could remove the button but to boot it up you should figure out a way maybe put a lock on the button and if you remove the lock the only you can press it? |
| 18:51.40 | dreamerx-M | thiago: well if you put a lock on it you can still use it by unlocking the lock |
| 18:52.07 | SGOrava | thiago: you can take out even the battery |
| 18:52.20 | dreamerx-M | yeah |
| 18:52.28 | asturm | increasingly less so |
| 18:52.40 | dreamerx-M | well some laptops dont have a removable battery |
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| 18:54.00 | dreamerx-M | all in all just the power button on the lock screen being disabled passes the message to the intruder that you need the pc open, if the intruder is a friend then he will not long press the power button on your system |
| 18:54.30 | dreamerx-M | otherwise you should find a way your system to be out of reach of anyone or make a physical lock on the button somehow |
| 18:54.39 | SGOrava | you know, friend are worst ... |
| 18:55.11 | dreamerx-M | yeah one way to make a laptop not be closed by anyone is to have a cage that is locked |
| 18:55.21 | dreamerx-M | so you close the lid and then put it in the locked cage |
| 18:56.30 | SGOrava | in that case just lock the room ... |
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| 19:02.48 | thiago | SGOrava: on ultrabooks and other thin form factors, that means unscrewing some screws to reach the battery. |
| 19:02.53 | thiago | often violating warranty |
| 19:04.57 | dreamerx-M | thiago: some laptops especially back in the good days the batteries where popin out easily for you to change it when you go for a long trip without a power outlet or if it gets old and dead |
| 19:04.58 | SGOrava | thiago: it is your fault for buying piece of art |
| 19:05.42 | dreamerx-M | SGOrava: true dat, |
| 19:05.42 | SGOrava | but I know, some laptops have 2 batteries from which one might be harder to remove |
| 19:05.47 | dreamerx-M | you my man |
| 19:06.16 | dreamerx-M | SGOrava: thats some fine laptop design? two batteries? |
| 19:06.43 | SGOrava | some enterprise laptops have 2 batteries |
| 19:06.47 | thiago | some older laptops did have two batteries, so you could swap the main one when it ran out |
| 19:06.48 | dreamerx-M | I would argue both batteries should be easily poped in and out |
| 19:06.57 | dreamerx-M | so you can be without outlet power for long periods |
| 19:07.00 | dreamerx-M | and your laptop always open |
| 19:07.27 | dreamerx-M | without emergy loss |
| 19:07.36 | thiago | (not counting the CMOS/RTC backup battery) |
| 19:07.39 | dreamerx-M | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.51 | dreamerx-M | yeah |
| 19:07.52 | dreamerx-M | thiago: |
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| 19:13.36 | hussam | I'm being hit by a nvidia screen corruption that happens when I switch tty or resume from suspend. I can plasmashell --replace to fix it. This is supposedly fixed in Qt 5.14 but that's not released yet. Can I make "plasmashell --replace" a toolbat button? |
| 19:13.47 | hussam | toolbar |
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| 19:23.01 | SGOrava | no idea, you can at least bound some keyboard shortcut with that command |
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| 19:29.31 | hussam | SGOrava: I had the issue two years with Gnome but they fixed/worked around it around that period. luckily, a similar fix is coming to Qt according to kde bugzilla. I used to alt-f2 -> r to restart the shell. Now I need to get used to doing so on KDE as well. So a keyboard shortcut should do the trick. |
| 19:30.43 | SGOrava | OK, I am beginning to become Linux fan |
| 19:32.34 | hussam | ironically, it is the only issue I've had with any linux desktop environment in the last two decades. and I've used pretty much every DE out there. |
| 19:33.01 | hussam | recurring issue but the root cause is still the same. closed source driver. |
| 19:33.43 | hussam | after a few years, unexpected issues turn into "ah, this again. I remember this." |
| 19:35.04 | SGOrava | "closed source driver" exactly |
| 19:35.04 | hussam | I resume all of KDE will require a recompile with QT 5.14? |
| 19:35.26 | asturm | no. some frameworks, some plasma packages |
| 19:35.27 | hussam | well, at least the GL libraries/xorg driver/etc.. |
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| 19:40.41 | hussam | asturm: ok, thank you. |
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| 19:53.41 | cosimone | hello everyone, i have a minor, yet annoying issue in plasma 5.16.5: i have included the application menu button on window titlebars (the "hamburger" button) but the menubar STILL sometimes displays on applications automatically launched via autostart |
| 19:54.28 | cosimone | if i close it and reopen it, the menu button is displayed instead of the menu bar, as expected |
| 19:54.55 | cosimone | it's as if the application starts "too soon", before the menubar can be hidden because of the presence of the menu button |
| 19:55.26 | cosimone | i don't know if this issue is fixed in 5.17, i haven't tried it yet |
| 19:55.39 | cosimone | does anybody else here have a similar problem? |
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| 20:08.40 | hussam | Any suggestions for gst based applications for listening to online music? I used rhythmbox and clementine in the past. clementine ported to qt5 in github but haven't made an official release yet. |
| 20:10.13 | asturm | their qt5 branch somwhat works |
| 20:10.23 | asturm | oh, in the meanwhile it merged to master |
| 20:10.35 | hussam | oh. cool. I will try it. thank you. |
| 20:10.42 | asturm | I use cantata |
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| 20:17.23 | SGOrava | I download music and then mix it myself as I wish, no need for internet connection when listening |
| 20:18.44 | asturm | that's good for you, I do the same with CDs |
| 20:19.15 | asturm | but there's also internet radio that has its merits |
| 20:20.54 | demm | hussam: strawberry is well maintained, has Qt5 releases https://www.strawberrymusicplayer.org/, continuation of clementine |
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| 20:22.29 | hussam | demm: nice. thank you. |
| 20:22.41 | hussam | I'll get that one. |
| 20:22.46 | demm | yw |
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