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| 08:52.09 | aib | How can I disable the compositor for good? Enabling it causes various things to flicker black --very annoying--. So far I've gotten away with just disabling "Enable compositor on startup" but it sometimes starts on its own and then there's no way to stop it |
| 08:54.12 | aib | or, if there's a way to stop the compositor, temporarily, until the next time whatever causes it to run causes it to run, that would also be fine |
| 08:55.13 | aib | right now the way I can tell if the compositor is running (if there are no windows to flicker annoyingly) is the taskbar's color. it's light grey at startup, black with a bit of my background showing if the compositor is running |
| 08:59.05 | aib | hmm, I guess there is dbus://org.kde.KWin/Compositor/active |
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| 10:29.20 | new-M | Hi everybody, I lost all libreoffice from create new menu, how can restore that? |
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| 10:42.07 | ArchMaverick | Hey guys I just installed arch Linux and I want to install KDE |
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| 10:51.23 | asturm | ArchMaverick: I'm sure they have a good archwiki for KDE Plasma installations |
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| 10:52.04 | ArchMaverick | Yeah it just says install plasma and kde-applications with xorg |
| 10:52.20 | ArchMaverick | I don't know where sddm is mentioned but everyone says it's needed |
| 10:53.33 | asturm | depends how you roll, but yes, most people will use some kind of DM |
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| 10:56.09 | ArchMaverick | Ok so plasma-meta package is more basic or the plasma package |
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| 10:56.33 | asturm | depends how they package their stuff |
| 10:57.06 | asturm | plasma-meta should give you all you need for the desktop, but it is their decision if they also pull in SDDM for you |
| 10:58.48 | ArchMaverick | https://www.archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/plasma/ |
| 10:58.51 | ArchMaverick | That is plasma |
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| 10:59.10 | ArchMaverick | https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/plasma-meta/ |
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| 10:59.13 | ArchMaverick | Plasma meta |
| 10:59.24 | ArchMaverick | Plasma meta just says it's dependencies and stuff |
| 11:00.44 | ArchMaverick | Same thing with KDE applications and KDE applications meta |
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| 11:02.53 | ArchMaverick | I'm just guessing but it looks like the meta version is the lightweight one |
| 11:03.35 | asturm | I have no idea about that arch stuff |
| 11:04.02 | ArchMaverick | Yeah it looks like meta package doesn't even come with dolphin |
| 11:04.08 | ArchMaverick | Better off with plasma |
| 11:04.24 | ArchMaverick | Yeah I know I'm new to this too |
| 11:04.33 | ArchMaverick | It's gonna take a while till I figure it out |
| 11:04.43 | ArchMaverick | Thanks a lot |
| 11:04.50 | asturm | for applications there will be other meta packages, maybe even smaller groups to choose from if you so whish |
| 11:04.53 | asturm | *wish |
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| 11:05.08 | ArchMaverick | Yeah the meta one is this smaller group. |
| 11:05.17 | ArchMaverick | There's a KDE applications and KDE applications meta |
| 11:06.14 | ArchMaverick | This long list is the bigger one https://www.archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/kde-applications/ |
| 11:07.08 | ArchMaverick | Best thing to do is install xorg-server plasma sddm and konsole |
| 11:07.19 | ArchMaverick | And later see the rest |
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| 12:10.27 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 13:28.24 | new-M | <new-M "Hi everybody, I lost all libreof"> any helpØ |
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| 13:29.33 | grzesiek11 | what? |
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| 13:50.01 | gsedej | hi! have question about Ksysguard ("kde system monitor") - i created my tab with temperatures and fan speeds |
| 13:50.20 | gsedej | Is it possible to set label (instead of temp1 temp3 temp6, etc..) |
| 13:50.40 | proctrap_ | right click it and edit ? |
| 13:51.22 | gsedej | I can change "graph" props, but not label |
| 13:51.55 | gsedej | in "graph" props, there is "sensors" tab, but I can only change color and order |
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| 14:00.01 | jzarl | gsedej: View -> Worksheet properties |
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| 14:00.49 | jzarl | sorry, "Tab Properties" |
| 14:02.26 | new-M | <new-M "Hi everybody, I lost all libreof"> â¹ï¸ |
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| 14:05.15 | jzarl | new-M: sorry, my scrollback only reaches to 14:00. what was your question? |
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| 14:06.23 | new-M | <jzarl "new: sorry, my scrollback only r"> I lost all libreoffice from create new menu, how can restore that? |
| 14:06.58 | gsedej_ | jzarl, can you change sensor label? |
| 14:07.26 | jzarl | gsedej_: yes, I can |
| 14:07.47 | gsedej_ | I can change graph (view) title, but no label of each sensor (temp1 temp2 temp3...) |
| 14:08.34 | jzarl | new-M: I'm afraid I can't help you with that - I don't see it in dolphin here, either (but I've never used it, so I don't even know if it ever was there in my installation) |
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| 14:09.48 | gsedej_ | jzarl, I see only those options on "tab properties" |
| 14:09.49 | gsedej_ | https://imgur.com/a/76S7sha |
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| 14:12.04 | jzarl | gsedej_: oh, now I understand what you mean. no, I can't change this, either |
| 14:12.20 | NourDebian-M | <jzarl "new: I'm afraid I can't help you"> when I install fresh debian it exist |
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| 14:27.35 | woenx | Hi. I would like to know how to instal additional modules for systemsettings under Ubuntu with Gnome |
| 14:27.39 | woenx | by default, it is almost empty, and I'd like to configure my mouse scroll speed |
| 14:28.10 | JanKusanagi | that sounds like a question for Ubuntu channels, or at least, Kubuntu channels |
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| 14:28.42 | JanKusanagi | they might have some kcm***** packages, or might have the KCM's bundled with something else |
| 14:32.04 | woenx | Ok |
| 14:32.23 | woenx | so they are typically separate packages for each module? |
| 14:32.34 | JanKusanagi | I have no idea how Ubuntu packages that |
| 14:33.01 | JanKusanagi | in Mageia, only a few KCMs are separate packages, most are part of something bigger like plasma-workspace and such |
| 14:33.20 | woenx | aha |
| 14:33.49 | woenx | I just wanted to use dolphin as the main file manager instead of the default one. And it works fine, but the scroll speed is insane |
| 14:33.57 | woenx | and I wanted to adjust that |
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| 14:38.31 | JanKusanagi | I don't have any such setting in the Mouse KCM |
| 14:39.06 | JanKusanagi | it might be something that was available via evdev but not (yet) with libinput |
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| 14:42.45 | LinusKardell-M | Dolphin keeps unmounting one of my bind mounts when I open a file through it. |
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| 15:06.01 | OnkelTem | Hi |
| 15:06.08 | OnkelTem | How to get information about KDE? |
| 15:06.11 | OnkelTem | I tried kde info |
| 15:06.15 | OnkelTem | info kde, plasma infop |
| 15:06.20 | OnkelTem | none worked |
| 15:06.22 | woenx | JanKusanagi: by any change, wouldn't you know in which configuration file the mouse settings for KDE are stored? |
| 15:06.29 | woenx | OnkelTem: information of what kind |
| 15:06.34 | OnkelTem | version |
| 15:07.15 | JanKusanagi | just launch KInfoCenter |
| 15:07.25 | JanKusanagi | that will show you the version of Plasma Desktop and more |
| 15:07.25 | OnkelTem | omg |
| 15:07.40 | OnkelTem | Kinfo! KINFO! Couldn't find it by "kde info" |
| 15:07.40 | JanKusanagi | or go to the "System Information" module in Plasma's system settings |
| 15:07.57 | JanKusanagi | searching for "info" in Plasma's application launcher would suffice |
| 15:08.06 | JanKusanagi | golden rule of searching... |
| 15:08.20 | JanKusanagi | if your complicated search gives you nothing, generalize |
| 15:08.32 | OnkelTem | I use the launcher box on the top |
| 15:08.40 | JanKusanagi | same thing, for this purpose |
| 15:08.42 | OnkelTem | there if you type info nothing would be found |
| 15:09.15 | JanKusanagi | if I type "info" into KRunner, "Info center" appears, indeed =) |
| 15:09.28 | JanKusanagi | KRunner being the "launcher box" you mentioned |
| 15:09.43 | OnkelTem | Yep, it is. Well, as I said - nothing appears if I type "info" in there |
| 15:10.13 | JanKusanagi | well, that works here |
| 15:10.32 | JanKusanagi | you might have disabled some search options in KRunner's settings |
| 15:11.15 | JanKusanagi | (I get 9 items) |
| 15:11.49 | OnkelTem | 18 is here :) |
| 15:12.09 | JanKusanagi | you just said nothing appears xD |
| 15:12.38 | OnkelTem | I thought you meant configuration options, things which are enabled |
| 15:13.33 | JanKusanagi | no, I get 9 "search results" by typing "info" in KRunner |
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| 16:14.18 | bittin_ | Watching your talks on the LAS stream on Youtube now :) |
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| 17:27.12 | cosimone | hello everyone, is there a way to *remove* installed "look and feel" themes in the "look and feel" settings page? I only see a button to install new themes, but not any option to remove them |
| 17:27.25 | cosimone | I'm using Plasma 5.16 |
| 17:33.44 | GB_2-M | "Get New..." -> Installed -> Remove |
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| 18:16.49 | mmarco | hi |
| 18:17.21 | mmarco | one question: how can I make juk show the lyrics of the songs? |
| 18:17.26 | xyquadrat-M | mmarco: hey :) |
| 18:17.30 | mmarco | DO i need to put some file with the lyrics somewhere? |
| 18:22.18 | xyquadrat-M | Nope |
| 18:22.37 | mmarco | so, how is it supposed to work? |
| 18:23.00 | xyquadrat-M | The lyrics are coming from lyrics.fandom.com, so if they are available there, they should show up without any further configuration |
| 18:23.17 | mmarco | do i need to enable some complement or something like that? |
| 18:23.21 | xyquadrat-M | mmarco: What version of Juk are you using? The lyrics support broke and was only fixed recently |
| 18:23.47 | mmarco | 19.04.3 |
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| 18:25.06 | xyquadrat-M | Oh, that's unfortunate... The lyrics support was fixed with https://invent.kde.org/kde/juk/commit/d161bae4530bc28871c6951939100bf7a7a3b924, but this commit only landed in 19.08 |
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| 18:25.23 | mmarco | Maybe I can apply that patch to my version |
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| 18:25.53 | cosimone | GB_2-M: that doesn't seem to list any of those I have actually installed... |
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| 18:26.21 | xyquadrat-M | mmarco : Well, if you are comfortable with compiling software yourself, most definitely |
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| 18:29.29 | mmarco | xyquadrat-M: I will give it a try |
| 18:29.58 | xyquadrat-M | If you do encounter any problems, I'll be around for a while. Don't hesitate to ask :) |
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| 18:37.39 | madprops | i think a dark theme, and icon only taskbar as default, would be better defaults |
| 18:38.46 | madprops | thought the dark theme sometimes looks broken in some applications where the text is unreadable |
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| 18:39.17 | madprops | like in here for example http://i.imgur.com/stiDaTI.png |
| 18:40.46 | xyquadrat-M | madprops: Quite a few distributions choose to have a dark theme as the default |
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| 18:44.48 | jankusanagi_ | the world likes bright, eye-burning themes |
| 18:44.54 | jankusanagi_ | just look at 99,99% of websites xD |
| 18:45.32 | madprops | most websites i use are set to use the dark theme |
| 18:46.04 | jankusanagi_ | that's still just a novelty that's barely supported |
| 18:46.20 | Daskreech | Most websites I use are on the dark web |
| 18:46.22 | jankusanagi_ | and still, it's "the dark theme", "the other one", "the alternative" |
| 18:46.36 | jankusanagi_ | while the standard is pure white for everything |
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| 18:49.04 | Daskreech | Dark purple would be an odd default |
| 18:50.32 | mmarco | It worked! |
| 18:50.40 | Daskreech | \o/ |
| 18:51.28 | mmarco | xyquadrat-M: one of the advantages of using gentoo: pathcing programs when installing is easy ;) |
| 18:51.41 | xyquadrat-M | mmarco: Great :) |
| 18:52.00 | mmarco | thanks a lot |
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| 18:53.37 | xyquadrat-M | no problem, glad to hear that it worked |
| 18:54.36 | mmarco | Maybe there should be a configuration option for that |
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| 19:40.49 | inkbottle | hello there: I've got: Kmail, "failed to transport message. server error" (longer description: https://paste.debian.net/1115957/) |
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| 19:53.36 | CarlSchwan | inkbottle: try in ð |
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| 19:53.39 | CarlSchwan | #kontact |
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| 19:57.43 | inkbottle | OK, thanks |
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| 20:34.39 | peoro-M | hello guys |
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| 20:36.02 | peoro-M | is it possible to use ksystemsettings to configure my input devices in an X11 display that wasn't started as a KDE/plasma session? |
| 20:36.03 | JanKusanagi | o/ |
| 20:39.00 | peoro-M | I tried running KWin (`kwin_x11`), Plasma (`plasmashell`), Power Devil (`/usr/lib/org_kde_powerdevil`)... they all work, but can't find a way to let KDE configure/manage my input devices |
| 20:40.00 | JanKusanagi | what "input devices"? There's a whole section for "input devices" in Plasma's system settings |
| 20:40.17 | JanKusanagi | but I feel you don't mean mouses, keyboards and touchpads |
| 20:40.29 | peoro-M | Yes, keyboard, mouse and touchpad |
| 20:40.48 | peoro-M | I did configure them using system settings, but those options don't work in an X11 display that was not started as a Plasma Session |
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| 20:43.49 | peoro-M | I found that I can use Power Devil on my session, by just running `/usr/lib/org_kde_powerdevil`. The same way I can also start Plasma and KWin, but can't find any binary I can run to configure libinput using the settings I tweaked via KDE `systemsettings` |
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| 21:06.21 | peoro-M | I even have an idea about where kcm configures libinput... e.g. here for the keyboard settings: https://github.com/KDE/plasma-desktop/blob/master/kcms/keyboard/kcmmisc.cpp#L125 |
| 21:07.42 | peoro-M | but that thing is a KCM (KDE Config Module), and I don't know how to activate it without starting a KDE/plasma session (which I cannot do, since the X11 display is already up) |
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| 21:13.05 | JanKusanagi | you might be able to launch startplasma-x11 instead of all those components separately |
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| 21:16.14 | peoro-M | there's no way to start those component on their own? I'd strongly prefer doing that |
| 21:16.57 | asturm | peoro-M: kcmshell5 |
| 21:17.43 | peoro-M | oh, I didn't know that! thanks, will try playing with it |
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| 21:28.08 | peoro-M | asturm: thanks! I got it working by running `kcminit kcm_touchpad` |
| 21:28.18 | asturm | nice, glad it helped |
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| 22:56.35 | HighMemoryDaemon | Any way to set a KDE color theme for a specific application? |
| 22:56.45 | HighMemoryDaemon | I like light color themes but would like a dark one for Konsole. |
| 22:57.08 | HighMemoryDaemon | Sure, I could set the terminal color theme in Konsole, but not the UI elements like the tabbar |
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| 23:22.49 | peoro-M | I'd like to suggest the possibility of having a super minimal plasma/kde environment -alternative to the current full one-, where features are opt-in instead of opt-out |
| 23:22.58 | peoro-M | where could I discuss something like this? do you think it could make sense at all? |
| 23:24.10 | ismailof-M | <HighMemoryDaemon "Sure, I could set the terminal c"> I have a custom setup for that, but it's too messy. Konsole supports custom css for the taskbar |
| 23:24.58 | ismailof-M | And an additional kwin rule for the window decoration to use dark breeze.. but it's far from perfect |
| 23:26.47 | ismailof-M | because some menus (those from kwin) are dark, while the menus from konsole itself are white 𥴠|
| 23:27.19 | ismailof-M | I would also like to know a better way ð |
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