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| 01:37.59 | Skaface82 | im using a plugin called "audio device switcher", it puts in icon for each output device in the toolbar so you can just click them to change outputs |
| 01:38.06 | Skaface82 | im not sure if that would work in your case though |
| 01:39.04 | Skaface82 | a widget i should say |
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| 02:12.21 | scrdcow | any of you know why my pulseaudio instance on my server turns off then I logout through my kde-session? |
| 02:12.46 | scrdcow | it should be started through socket activation, which works during startup. |
| 02:13.15 | scrdcow | but even if I login, it doesn't restart. even if it did, it would still be a problem because it drops all other streams playing on the server. |
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| 02:23.02 | sarnold | scrdcow: poke around, this feels vaguely like the sort of thing loginctl enable linger ought to address |
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| 07:59.21 | Guest39330 | Hi, |
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| 08:00.08 | Guest39330 | Got a problem with konsole - it's immune to reverse scrolling changes ignoring system or even xinput settings. Any idea how to force it to obey? |
| 08:00.25 | Guest39330 | I am using kubuntu 18.04 |
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| 10:48.41 | UndefinedIsNotAF | Hey |
| 10:48.44 | UndefinedIsNotAF | I LOVE KDE |
| 10:48.49 | UndefinedIsNotAF | im just here to say that |
| 10:48.57 | UndefinedIsNotAF | thanks to the community |
| 10:49.03 | UndefinedIsNotAF | and thanks to KDE devs |
| 10:49.16 | UndefinedIsNotAF | i discover Linux with KDE and im back to KDE, so cool? |
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| 10:50.25 | hellozee | UndefinedIsNotAF: nice, :) |
| 10:50.39 | UndefinedIsNotAF | hellozee: u a KDE dev?? |
| 10:50.52 | hellozee | UndefinedIsNotAF: yes, :) |
| 10:51.09 | UndefinedIsNotAF | Seriously KDE is the best shit. Its like having Windows in Linux, Socool |
| 10:51.19 | UndefinedIsNotAF | everything seems to be like.... INTEGRATED |
| 10:51.22 | UndefinedIsNotAF | integration, dudes |
| 10:51.29 | UndefinedIsNotAF | kiss hellozee |
| 10:52.10 | UndefinedIsNotAF | But still there is improvement to do in KDE, because it look.... Unprofessional compared to a a stock Gnome. But Gnome is hsit, everybody know it |
| 10:52.23 | UndefinedIsNotAF | features are gret |
| 10:52.25 | UndefinedIsNotAF | great |
| 10:52.34 | UndefinedIsNotAF | but default looking is bad. |
| 10:52.42 | UndefinedIsNotAF | thats my idea |
| 10:52.45 | UndefinedIsNotAF | anyway |
| 10:52.49 | UndefinedIsNotAF | loves KDe |
| 10:53.02 | UndefinedIsNotAF | The last plasma is the bomb! |
| 10:53.30 | UndefinedIsNotAF | hellozee: is it possible to open a ticket, like in a gitlab/github/redmine about bug and suggestion for KDE ? |
| 10:53.32 | SGOrava | change the theme and we are done |
| 10:53.37 | asturm | UndefinedIsNotAF: perception of default looks is subjective |
| 10:53.44 | UndefinedIsNotAF | SGOrava: im not talking about the theme |
| 10:54.05 | SGOrava | go to https://bugs.kde.org |
| 10:54.09 | asturm | the whole point of Plasma is that you are empowered to change the hell out of it |
| 10:54.19 | UndefinedIsNotAF | asturm: yeah but everybody i know say the same things about KDE defaults. Look akward . For me its fine. |
| 10:54.23 | asturm | well, one point of it |
| 10:54.32 | asturm | no, not everybody. |
| 10:54.39 | UndefinedIsNotAF | asturm: but 50% of users just leaves defaults ^^ |
| 10:54.51 | asturm | maybe because they like them |
| 10:55.01 | UndefinedIsNotAF | because they are lazy |
| 10:55.14 | SGOrava | I never used plasma... and default settings for Desktop Environment are just defaults for most people to not be lost |
| 10:55.44 | UndefinedIsNotAF | yeah yeah |
| 10:55.49 | UndefinedIsNotAF | dont fool yourself |
| 10:55.52 | UndefinedIsNotAF | I LIVE KDE |
| 10:55.53 | SGOrava | also default settings might depend on the distribution you use, some tweak it a bit some don`t |
| 10:55.54 | UndefinedIsNotAF | LOVE |
| 10:56.15 | UndefinedIsNotAF | yeah, openSUSE have much nicer defaults than Kub |
| 10:56.25 | asturm | there's life in KDE yes |
| 10:56.39 | UndefinedIsNotAF | SGOrava: thanks for the bug tracker. Anyone can write in it or need to register? |
| 10:57.14 | SGOrava | you need account (maybe, it was a long time siunce I got one) |
| 10:57.29 | UndefinedIsNotAF | ok |
| 10:57.43 | UndefinedIsNotAF | OMG you still uses SVN... |
| 10:57.50 | UndefinedIsNotAF | Git is the bomb |
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| 10:57.59 | UndefinedIsNotAF | ha ok you are on git now. sorry |
| 10:58.00 | SGOrava | ?? git almost everywhere |
| 10:58.09 | UndefinedIsNotAF | i was looking old commits |
| 10:58.16 | UndefinedIsNotAF | in SVN format i think |
| 10:58.30 | UndefinedIsNotAF | seems like there was a migration from SVN to git. Dirty ^^ |
| 10:59.08 | SGOrava | you could be here to make it cleaner ... it is sad you were not here |
| 10:59.46 | thomasfuston | Not sure if this is the right channel, but for some reason KDE resizes some windows very weird - meaning it flickers while resizing the window for example the settings window i wasnt abel to find something to this online |
| 11:00.40 | thomasfuston | i tried different distros and 2 computers is everywhere the same , when resizing the systemsettings or firefox there is black flickering on the window edges |
| 11:00.58 | xyquadrat-M | thomasfuston: Anything KDE related is welcome here :) |
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| 11:01.44 | xyquadrat-M | Do these computers both have an NVidia graphics card by any chance? |
| 11:02.14 | thomasfuston | xyquadrat-M: nope, one is intel notebook and the other have a rx580 amd |
| 11:02.50 | xyquadrat-M | hm. I also have an RX580 here, and I do not see any flickering when resizing the settings window |
| 11:03.39 | thomasfuston | i am not sure if its "normal" or... hmm i guess i should screencast it |
| 11:03.55 | xyquadrat-M | What version of Plasma/KWin do you have? And what type of output (OpenGL2/OpenGL3/XRender) are you using? |
| 11:05.22 | thomasfuston | i tried every output, its always the same, currently on this pc its plasma 5.16.5 |
| 11:06.14 | thomasfuston | but its since several versions of kde, i tired a clean archlinux install with latest kde, was still the same |
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| 11:10.13 | callipygous | hi |
| 11:10.23 | callipygous | Is there a profile for touchscreens/tablets? |
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| 11:13.27 | xyquadrat-M | thomasfuston: a screencast could be helpful, yes |
| 11:14.45 | xyquadrat-M | callipygous: not really, but Wayland touchscreen support is supposed to be much better than with X11 |
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| 11:16.21 | callipygous | I really thought there was a layout for touchscreens :/ |
| 11:16.32 | callipygous | though I cannot find it. So you're most likely correct |
| 11:16.50 | CHADMIN-M | https://www.plasma-mobile.org/ |
| 11:16.51 | callipygous | What about an osk? |
| 11:16.53 | CHADMIN-M | maybe this is what you were looking for |
| 11:17.07 | callipygous | nah, it's a 'slate' tablet |
| 11:17.14 | callipygous | doesn't need a mobile desktop |
| 11:17.26 | callipygous | err...mobile (not desktop) |
| 11:19.15 | thomasfuston | xyquadrat-M: https://i.imgur.com/31aw6iu.gif here is a showcase^ |
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| 11:23.44 | thomasfuston | This little black flicker on the edges while resizing just annoys me so much that i cant stand using KDE. :( I just can figure out what is causing it |
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| 11:37.17 | SGOrava | I saw something similar with kate line numbers (when moving some side bar and in this way to position of line numbers, the line numbers were redraw only from time to time which resulted in similar artifacts), but it seems to be fixed now ... I dunno why the bugs I want to badmouth are hiding before me... |
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| 11:41.58 | xyquadrat-M | thomasfuston: Seems like the problem is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395421 |
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| 11:42.30 | xyquadrat-M | I just checked again, and it appears that I also have this problem, but I feel like it is less noticeable |
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| 11:42.49 | xyquadrat-M | Apparently this is an inherent problem with X11 & QML... haven't tried Wayland yet |
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| 11:43.52 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 11:45.00 | thomasfuston | xyquadrat-M: ah thx for the information |
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| 12:00.23 | BluesKaj | Hi SGOrava |
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| 19:10.34 | shvm | Is there any option in KDE settings that can let me disable the Cancel button. AFAIK all it does is equivalent to the X button. Or I need to ask somewhere else? |
| 19:13.35 | scrdcow | sarnold: thanks. I have that enabled on the server. but I have to dig deeper today! |
| 19:17.48 | jankusanagi_ | Cancel is not necessarily equivalent to the X button, not by a long shot |
| 19:18.12 | jankusanagi_ | you _could_ remove the X button though xD |
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| 19:18.56 | SGOrava | Cancel is useful button, keep it please |
| 19:19.35 | jankusanagi_ | "keep it please"? xD |
| 19:20.44 | SGOrava | just look at gnome or internet "minimalism" rulse them all (read as: removing good things) |
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| 19:21.37 | SGOrava | or like that recent planet.kde.org redesign |
| 19:23.14 | jankusanagi_ | what's wrong with Planet KDE? |
| 19:23.49 | SGOrava | design changed |
| 19:24.18 | jankusanagi_ | and what is *wrong*? |
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| 19:24.28 | SGOrava | like there is not different background for posts |
| 19:24.49 | SGOrava | which means it is harder to "lock" on specific area and post itself |
| 19:25.05 | jankusanagi_ | respects the "prefer dark theme" setting, more than enough for me |
| 19:25.20 | SGOrava | the that was done before this change |
| 19:25.28 | jankusanagi_ | but you're free to give the devs your feedback (which randomly ranting on this channel isn't) |
| 19:26.45 | SGOrava | you are not dev ? can you point me at right place ? it seems bugs.kde.org are ignored .. |
| 19:27.08 | jankusanagi_ | why would I be a dev? this is a user support channel, mostly populated by users |
| 19:27.12 | jankusanagi_ | devs "gather" at #kde-devel among others |
| 19:27.30 | jankusanagi_ | but the right place _is_ bugs.kde.org |
| 19:27.42 | jankusanagi_ | and it's certainly not ignored |
| 19:30.02 | SGOrava | why would you not be a dev ? or retired dev ? or starting dev ? developers should listen to users :) |
| 19:30.23 | SGOrava | Thank you for "advice" I know those places, but it is hard to get to people anyway |
| 19:30.51 | SGOrava | it is web in the end, and I am just a user of it and it is problem from users PoV |
| 19:31.33 | SGOrava | so this is right place to ask, some people who may know (there must be some who are in contact with devs) |
| 19:32.39 | SGOrava | that is what I thought, well, it is webPage in the end, web is bad these days |
| 19:32.47 | SGOrava | Thank you again, see you later |
| 19:34.22 | SGOrava | PS: still better than new debian webpage |
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| 19:37.00 | scrdcow | debian.org? I see no difference. |
| 19:37.43 | SGOrava | scrdcow: https://debian-newhomepage.larjona.net/ |
| 19:37.49 | SGOrava | their new site |
| 19:38.34 | SGOrava | eg, design |
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| 19:45.22 | shvm | looks good enough to me. Buddy |
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| 19:46.05 | SGOrava | shvm: different people, different standards, different requirements |
| 19:49.43 | SGOrava | jankusanagi_: maybe the dark design looks much better, but I am unable to use it (introduced in chromium 78) because I use QtWebEngine based browser (so maybe with Qt 5.15 or 5.16 I will be able to use it) |
| 19:51.08 | jankusanagi_ | no idea how the light design looks, so... |
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| 19:51.40 | jankusanagi_ | before there was a dark theme available, I let a certain FF extension make those websites dark, like it does with the rest |
| 19:52.39 | CarlSchwan | <SGOrava "scrdcow: https://debian-newhomep"> It looks quite ugly in my opinion at least on mobile sinse I didn't test the desktop version yet |
| 19:55.06 | jankusanagi_ | looks good to me, on desktop |
| 19:55.13 | jankusanagi_ | except for being oh-so-white xD |
| 19:55.30 | jankusanagi_ | but still, quite a lot more user-welcoming than their current site |
| 19:55.33 | SGOrava | move the mouse over the headers |
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| 19:56.32 | shvm | looks good to me. The responsive design is a nice touch |
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| 20:27.23 | Taoki | Hey. What happened to the command "kstart"? Bash is suddenly telling me it doesn't know about it any more. |
| 20:28.09 | jankusanagi_ | the tab key is your friend |
| 20:28.47 | SGOrava | maybe kstart5 ? |
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| 20:32.59 | Taoki | Oh yeah, it was renamed. Thanks |
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| 20:55.51 | jankusanagi_ | again, the tab key is your friend, more than a direct answer |
| 20:56.43 | SGOrava | not all shell have tab-complete enabled by default |
| 21:02.15 | jankusanagi_ | ok, only 99% |
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