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00:17.48*** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.16 and KDE Applications 19.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config
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08:11.40AndrewAlfazyHello, I want to use i3 wm with smooth kde tools (my system have 2GB of ram and I don't want the os to use more than ~250MB)
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08:12.10AndrewAlfazyso I don't do want to do startkde because it will start the thicc stuff
08:12.24AndrewAlfazybut I still want themes to work correctly
08:12.30AndrewAlfazyBTW I use arch
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08:15.07AndrewAlfazyany idea how can I do it? or what is the program that deals with the themes?
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12:05.54CarlSchwanandrew_alfazy: try with qt5ct
12:06.58CarlSchwansee https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/qt#Configuration_of_Qt5_apps_under_environments_other_than_KDE_Plasma
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12:31.53BluesKajHey folks
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15:04.06dos1is there a way to disable mail account in kmail without removing all its contents? I have one with several gigabytes of mails there and it slows down kmail, yet I don't need it for a while
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15:20.43thiagoit slows down without even checking?
15:20.51thiagomy archive account is configured, but not checking email
15:21.06thiagoit's also configured not to save bodies, though
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15:40.06dos1it already has plenty of bodies and it seems kmail insists on loading its inbox on launch, already taking some time just to process it and eating non-neglictible amounts of RAM in the process
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16:47.26nisema-MHey! Could someone kindly direct me to the source for the Wallpaper Slideshow plugin?
16:51.29jankusanagi_that's more of a #kde-devel question, but you probably want to start here: https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-workspace.git/tree/wallpapers/image
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16:53.06nisema-Mbeautiful, thank you!  I'll follow up on #kde-devel if I have any more questions
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19:40.33messertingHi, my work computer currently runs KDE Plasma. I have a samba/cifs drive mounted via autofs. How do I prevent my entire desktop to halt for several minutes if the share is no longer available?
19:40.57messertingThis happens regularly, as I often pop out my laptop, and move to a meeting room without proper wifi access
19:41.18messertingI want the share to be cut off, allow data corruption, but be able to use my computer
19:42.10messertingSame problem when I turn on/off VPN, or put the laptop to sleep at work and wake it up at home, outside the LAN
19:42.53messertingHow do you guys mount network shares? I have a symlink in my home folder under ~/mnt/share for easy access.
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19:51.36psychedeliciousIs there an IRC channel for the Calligra Office suite or is this channel the main one?
19:52.00psychedeliciousI'm on Arch using Plasma 5.16
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19:56.43jankusanagi_have you tried #calligra?
19:58.14psychedeliciousjankusanagi_: no I haven't.  To be honest I'm just playing about.  I've switched KDE from Cinnamon and wanted a KDE native Office suite.  However I think Calligra is not suitable for my needs.
19:59.09asturmpsychedelicious: libreoffice works great with plasma integration
19:59.13jankusanagi_LibreOffice can be made quite "native" to Plasma with the right VCL
19:59.27psychedeliciousThanks for the info though jankusanagi_
20:00.10psychedeliciousLibreoffice is quite a heavy suite.  It looks native on my KDE actually.
20:00.52jankusanagi_on your Plasma =)
20:01.18psychedeliciousjankusanagi_: LOL yes, you know what I mean!
20:02.04jankusanagi_well, I had to guess
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20:38.03NyleKmail and Gmail problem, not secure app
20:38.21NyleI have searched for days and days but found no solution, but I think I came up with a not so very good solution
20:38.31Nyle108.177.112.109 gmail
20:38.31jankusanagi_further problem: crappy provider xD
20:38.40NyleI added that to my /etc/hosts
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20:39.05NyleAnd instead of using the Gmail auth protocol, use PLAIN, and instead of gmail address/domain, use 'gmail' from /etc/hosts
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20:39.33NyleSoon as KDE detects 'imap.gmail.com' it forces you to use GMail auth instead of Plain, and the Gmail says less secure app
20:39.40NyleThis way I can use Kmail and Gmail together.
20:39.49NyleI just wanted to share if anyone was interested
20:40.26NyleYou do have to make a one time pass for use with kmail
20:40.59NyleI had created a generic one called 'mail' so I can use that on any less secure mail client. Mutt is the primary one I use unless someone sends html mail.
20:41.24NyleI also like Kdevelop. It's a lot more lightweight than Netbeans.
20:41.47NyleI would love it if 'on save file' Kdevelop could also reformat 'all lines' or 'only modified lines'
20:42.04Nyleunless kdevelop already has this feature, which I could not find.
20:44.55jankusanagi_AFAIK, KMail lets you configure the PLAIN auth without tricks
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20:46.09NyleTry it. The moment Kmail detects the string 'imap.gmail.com' it will disable the other options, they will gray out, and you will see GMail as the selected auth type, which you can't change.
20:46.22NyleThat's why I had to enter a different string.
20:46.30NyleWhy KMail forces this?
20:47.37jankusanagi_I can't try it, I don't even use gmail.com
20:47.51jankusanagi_but people change it to PLAIN somehow
20:47.54NyleIf you have kmail, you just setup a an account and test out how it behaves.
20:48.01NyleYou do not need gmail for this test.
20:48.15NyleYes, this is how.
20:48.30NyleIf there is another way, please test and let me know, otherwise there is no point in argumentation.
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20:49.37jankusanagi_I can't tell you the way, I'm telling you other people solve that problem precisely by switching to PLAIN
20:50.20asturmjankusanagi_: didn't help me in any way
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20:51.09NyleJust, I just told you that it was by switching to PLAIN... but KMail doesn't make it easy for the address imap.gmail.com
20:51.19NyleWhat's with this guy?
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20:53.03asturmNyle: I don't think anyone is questioning you
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20:57.54NyleYeah, it felt like an Abbot and Costello routine. Argumentative.
20:57.58NyleUnpleasant.
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20:58.11asturmwhy so combative...
20:58.28jankusanagi_sometimes I hate this planet xD
21:03.57kkremitzki-MYou need to use imap.googlemail.com
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22:45.48WinterfangHello! Are either Kopete or KDE Telepathy still actively developed? Neither of them will connect to the XMPP server I'm trying to use, but a) I don't know if that's a bug, and b) I don't know where/if to report it.
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22:48.02ArgentWolf(I'm trying to find a client that actually has options, but that doesn't do weird things with history like Gajim does. Kopete looks perfect, and KDE Telepathy looks promising as well.)
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22:55.39jankusanagi_try Psi
23:01.54ArgentWolfPsi? I think I have it installed, was put off by the icons. :P
23:02.10ArgentWolfAlso Gajim apparently has settings to change the history behavior I don't like, so I think I might just stick with it.
23:02.45ArgentWolfThanks!
23:04.23jankusanagi_Psi has many icon themes, and you can always make others
23:04.31ArgentWolfThat's good to know!
23:05.40ArgentWolfOh, yeah, forgot Psi has the same exact problem Kopete has.
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23:06.33ArgentWolf"There was an error communicating with the server. Details: Authentication error: Unable to login[.] Offered mechanisms: PLAIN"
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23:07.23jankusanagi_you seem to be missing optional packages
23:07.32ArgentWolfOh! There's things I need to install?
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23:08.40jankusanagi_well, either your distribution's package is broken, or yes, you need to install additional packages to allow certain types of authentication
23:09.02ArgentWolfAh, thanks! I've got Kubuntu 19,04, so I wouldn't think it'd be broken...
23:09.29ArgentWolfGajim works fine, are these packages specific to a particular backend library?
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23:10.08jankusanagi_well, Gajim probably uses very different libraries for almost everything
23:10.31jankusanagi_being Python+GTK as opposed to Qt+C++ xD
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23:10.45ArgentWolfMakes sense! (:
23:11.16jankusanagi_you're probably missing some QCA plugin
23:12.00ArgentWolfAh, that gives me something to search for! Maybe libqca2-plugins?...
23:12.09jankusanagi_back in the day, on a Debian machine, I needed libsasl2-modules-gssapi-mit
23:12.30jankusanagi_you might need that one, or some other sasl2-modules-***
23:12.34ArgentWolfAh, thanks! I'll try installing that, see what happens.
23:15.57ArgentWolfStill getting the same error with Kopete: "There was an error authenticating with the server: Login failed with unknown reason. Offered mechanisms: PLAIN"
23:16.09ArgentWolfUnless I need to log out and back in again or something.
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23:26.07jankusanagi_well, no idea about Kopete
23:26.19jankusanagi_my comment was about Psi and what affects its auth methods
23:26.37jankusanagi_also, that specific SASL module was useful for me, you might need another one
23:26.48jankusanagi_the XML console might give you a clue
23:27.07ArgentWolfYeah, Psi's not working for me either...oh, that sounds handy! I'll check that right now.
23:28.46ArgentWolfIs that somewhere in Psi?
23:28.55ArgentWolfAh, never mind, found it.
23:29.23jankusanagi_I have a handy button, but usually right-clicking an account's header has the option
23:29.49ArgentWolfMine has the button too, must be the default. Anyway, got some output. Some is yellow and some is red, are the colors significant?
23:30.05jankusanagi_yes, sent and received
23:30.10jankusanagi_well, the other way around
23:30.13jankusanagi_red is what you send
23:30.22ArgentWolfCool. And is there anything I should redact? I have no idea how any of this works.
23:31.06jankusanagi_well, I only suggested looking at the initial exchange and the error stanza, to see clues of what's expected by the server
23:31.31ArgentWolfI'm getting a "success" line in response... <success xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-sasl">=</success>
23:37.41*** join/#kde periodic (be7322fa@190.115.34.250)
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