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08:11.40 | AndrewAlfazy | Hello, I want to use i3 wm with smooth kde tools (my system have 2GB of ram and I don't want the os to use more than ~250MB) |
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08:12.10 | AndrewAlfazy | so I don't do want to do startkde because it will start the thicc stuff |
08:12.24 | AndrewAlfazy | but I still want themes to work correctly |
08:12.30 | AndrewAlfazy | BTW I use arch |
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08:15.07 | AndrewAlfazy | any idea how can I do it? or what is the program that deals with the themes? |
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08:17.33 | andrew_alfazy-M | test_msg |
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12:05.54 | CarlSchwan | andrew_alfazy: try with qt5ct |
12:06.58 | CarlSchwan | see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/qt#Configuration_of_Qt5_apps_under_environments_other_than_KDE_Plasma |
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12:31.53 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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15:04.06 | dos1 | is there a way to disable mail account in kmail without removing all its contents? I have one with several gigabytes of mails there and it slows down kmail, yet I don't need it for a while |
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15:20.43 | thiago | it slows down without even checking? |
15:20.51 | thiago | my archive account is configured, but not checking email |
15:21.06 | thiago | it's also configured not to save bodies, though |
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15:40.06 | dos1 | it already has plenty of bodies and it seems kmail insists on loading its inbox on launch, already taking some time just to process it and eating non-neglictible amounts of RAM in the process |
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16:47.26 | nisema-M | Hey! Could someone kindly direct me to the source for the Wallpaper Slideshow plugin? |
16:51.29 | jankusanagi_ | that's more of a #kde-devel question, but you probably want to start here: https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-workspace.git/tree/wallpapers/image |
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16:53.06 | nisema-M | beautiful, thank you! I'll follow up on #kde-devel if I have any more questions |
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17:36.01 | jankusanagi_ | yw =) |
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19:40.33 | messerting | Hi, my work computer currently runs KDE Plasma. I have a samba/cifs drive mounted via autofs. How do I prevent my entire desktop to halt for several minutes if the share is no longer available? |
19:40.57 | messerting | This happens regularly, as I often pop out my laptop, and move to a meeting room without proper wifi access |
19:41.18 | messerting | I want the share to be cut off, allow data corruption, but be able to use my computer |
19:42.10 | messerting | Same problem when I turn on/off VPN, or put the laptop to sleep at work and wake it up at home, outside the LAN |
19:42.53 | messerting | How do you guys mount network shares? I have a symlink in my home folder under ~/mnt/share for easy access. |
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19:51.36 | psychedelicious | Is there an IRC channel for the Calligra Office suite or is this channel the main one? |
19:52.00 | psychedelicious | I'm on Arch using Plasma 5.16 |
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19:56.43 | jankusanagi_ | have you tried #calligra? |
19:58.14 | psychedelicious | jankusanagi_: no I haven't. To be honest I'm just playing about. I've switched KDE from Cinnamon and wanted a KDE native Office suite. However I think Calligra is not suitable for my needs. |
19:59.09 | asturm | psychedelicious: libreoffice works great with plasma integration |
19:59.13 | jankusanagi_ | LibreOffice can be made quite "native" to Plasma with the right VCL |
19:59.27 | psychedelicious | Thanks for the info though jankusanagi_ |
20:00.10 | psychedelicious | Libreoffice is quite a heavy suite. It looks native on my KDE actually. |
20:00.52 | jankusanagi_ | on your Plasma =) |
20:01.18 | psychedelicious | jankusanagi_: LOL yes, you know what I mean! |
20:02.04 | jankusanagi_ | well, I had to guess |
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20:38.03 | Nyle | Kmail and Gmail problem, not secure app |
20:38.21 | Nyle | I have searched for days and days but found no solution, but I think I came up with a not so very good solution |
20:38.31 | Nyle | 108.177.112.109 gmail |
20:38.31 | jankusanagi_ | further problem: crappy provider xD |
20:38.40 | Nyle | I added that to my /etc/hosts |
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20:39.05 | Nyle | And instead of using the Gmail auth protocol, use PLAIN, and instead of gmail address/domain, use 'gmail' from /etc/hosts |
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20:39.33 | Nyle | Soon as KDE detects 'imap.gmail.com' it forces you to use GMail auth instead of Plain, and the Gmail says less secure app |
20:39.40 | Nyle | This way I can use Kmail and Gmail together. |
20:39.49 | Nyle | I just wanted to share if anyone was interested |
20:40.26 | Nyle | You do have to make a one time pass for use with kmail |
20:40.59 | Nyle | I had created a generic one called 'mail' so I can use that on any less secure mail client. Mutt is the primary one I use unless someone sends html mail. |
20:41.24 | Nyle | I also like Kdevelop. It's a lot more lightweight than Netbeans. |
20:41.47 | Nyle | I would love it if 'on save file' Kdevelop could also reformat 'all lines' or 'only modified lines' |
20:42.04 | Nyle | unless kdevelop already has this feature, which I could not find. |
20:44.55 | jankusanagi_ | AFAIK, KMail lets you configure the PLAIN auth without tricks |
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20:46.09 | Nyle | Try it. The moment Kmail detects the string 'imap.gmail.com' it will disable the other options, they will gray out, and you will see GMail as the selected auth type, which you can't change. |
20:46.22 | Nyle | That's why I had to enter a different string. |
20:46.30 | Nyle | Why KMail forces this? |
20:47.37 | jankusanagi_ | I can't try it, I don't even use gmail.com |
20:47.51 | jankusanagi_ | but people change it to PLAIN somehow |
20:47.54 | Nyle | If you have kmail, you just setup a an account and test out how it behaves. |
20:48.01 | Nyle | You do not need gmail for this test. |
20:48.15 | Nyle | Yes, this is how. |
20:48.30 | Nyle | If there is another way, please test and let me know, otherwise there is no point in argumentation. |
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20:49.37 | jankusanagi_ | I can't tell you the way, I'm telling you other people solve that problem precisely by switching to PLAIN |
20:50.20 | asturm | jankusanagi_: didn't help me in any way |
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20:51.09 | Nyle | Just, I just told you that it was by switching to PLAIN... but KMail doesn't make it easy for the address imap.gmail.com |
20:51.19 | Nyle | What's with this guy? |
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20:53.03 | asturm | Nyle: I don't think anyone is questioning you |
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20:57.54 | Nyle | Yeah, it felt like an Abbot and Costello routine. Argumentative. |
20:57.58 | Nyle | Unpleasant. |
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20:58.11 | asturm | why so combative... |
20:58.28 | jankusanagi_ | sometimes I hate this planet xD |
21:03.57 | kkremitzki-M | You need to use imap.googlemail.com |
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22:45.48 | Winterfang | Hello! Are either Kopete or KDE Telepathy still actively developed? Neither of them will connect to the XMPP server I'm trying to use, but a) I don't know if that's a bug, and b) I don't know where/if to report it. |
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22:48.02 | ArgentWolf | (I'm trying to find a client that actually has options, but that doesn't do weird things with history like Gajim does. Kopete looks perfect, and KDE Telepathy looks promising as well.) |
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22:55.39 | jankusanagi_ | try Psi |
23:01.54 | ArgentWolf | Psi? I think I have it installed, was put off by the icons. :P |
23:02.10 | ArgentWolf | Also Gajim apparently has settings to change the history behavior I don't like, so I think I might just stick with it. |
23:02.45 | ArgentWolf | Thanks! |
23:04.23 | jankusanagi_ | Psi has many icon themes, and you can always make others |
23:04.31 | ArgentWolf | That's good to know! |
23:05.40 | ArgentWolf | Oh, yeah, forgot Psi has the same exact problem Kopete has. |
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23:06.33 | ArgentWolf | "There was an error communicating with the server. Details: Authentication error: Unable to login[.] Offered mechanisms: PLAIN" |
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23:07.23 | jankusanagi_ | you seem to be missing optional packages |
23:07.32 | ArgentWolf | Oh! There's things I need to install? |
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23:08.40 | jankusanagi_ | well, either your distribution's package is broken, or yes, you need to install additional packages to allow certain types of authentication |
23:09.02 | ArgentWolf | Ah, thanks! I've got Kubuntu 19,04, so I wouldn't think it'd be broken... |
23:09.29 | ArgentWolf | Gajim works fine, are these packages specific to a particular backend library? |
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23:10.08 | jankusanagi_ | well, Gajim probably uses very different libraries for almost everything |
23:10.31 | jankusanagi_ | being Python+GTK as opposed to Qt+C++ xD |
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23:10.45 | ArgentWolf | Makes sense! (: |
23:11.16 | jankusanagi_ | you're probably missing some QCA plugin |
23:12.00 | ArgentWolf | Ah, that gives me something to search for! Maybe libqca2-plugins?... |
23:12.09 | jankusanagi_ | back in the day, on a Debian machine, I needed libsasl2-modules-gssapi-mit |
23:12.30 | jankusanagi_ | you might need that one, or some other sasl2-modules-*** |
23:12.34 | ArgentWolf | Ah, thanks! I'll try installing that, see what happens. |
23:15.57 | ArgentWolf | Still getting the same error with Kopete: "There was an error authenticating with the server: Login failed with unknown reason. Offered mechanisms: PLAIN" |
23:16.09 | ArgentWolf | Unless I need to log out and back in again or something. |
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23:26.07 | jankusanagi_ | well, no idea about Kopete |
23:26.19 | jankusanagi_ | my comment was about Psi and what affects its auth methods |
23:26.37 | jankusanagi_ | also, that specific SASL module was useful for me, you might need another one |
23:26.48 | jankusanagi_ | the XML console might give you a clue |
23:27.07 | ArgentWolf | Yeah, Psi's not working for me either...oh, that sounds handy! I'll check that right now. |
23:28.46 | ArgentWolf | Is that somewhere in Psi? |
23:28.55 | ArgentWolf | Ah, never mind, found it. |
23:29.23 | jankusanagi_ | I have a handy button, but usually right-clicking an account's header has the option |
23:29.49 | ArgentWolf | Mine has the button too, must be the default. Anyway, got some output. Some is yellow and some is red, are the colors significant? |
23:30.05 | jankusanagi_ | yes, sent and received |
23:30.10 | jankusanagi_ | well, the other way around |
23:30.13 | jankusanagi_ | red is what you send |
23:30.22 | ArgentWolf | Cool. And is there anything I should redact? I have no idea how any of this works. |
23:31.06 | jankusanagi_ | well, I only suggested looking at the initial exchange and the error stanza, to see clues of what's expected by the server |
23:31.31 | ArgentWolf | I'm getting a "success" line in response... <success xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-sasl">=</success> |
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