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| 01:29.56 | pankaj_ | I just noticed that when installing 'kde5' on freebsd version 11.3 in the root directory inside '.xinitrc' it is 'statkde' written in place of 'startkde'. |
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| 02:13.27 | Nomenclatura | hi |
| 02:13.49 | Nomenclatura | How do you tun screen autorotation on? |
| 02:14.11 | Nomenclatura | tablet mode orhwatever |
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| 09:46.16 | ugjka | hello fine folks |
| 09:46.24 | ugjka | is there a KDE man page viewer? |
| 09:49.21 | I-have-terminal- | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:49.46 | I-have-terminal- | type "Man (Command)" without brackets |
| 09:50.03 | I-have-terminal- | and boom |
| 09:50.10 | I-have-terminal- | there's your manpage |
| 09:50.18 | I-have-terminal- | easy as pie |
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| 10:28.39 | xyquadrat-M | ugjka: I-have-terminal-AIDS Well, there is also another way... Open Dolphin, and edit the navigation bar to be man:/<command here> |
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| 10:28.50 | xyquadrat-M | That will open up a rendered manpage as website |
| 10:28.59 | xyquadrat-M | KIOSlaves for the win |
| 10:29.45 | ugjka | xyquadrat-M: dude |
| 10:30.02 | ugjka | there's no way i'd have figured that out on my own |
| 10:30.11 | ugjka | thanks |
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| 10:30.24 | xyquadrat-M | well, it's a rather hidden feature |
| 10:30.57 | ugjka | xyquadrat-M: you deserve a gold medal |
| 10:30.58 | xyquadrat-M | but no problem :) |
| 10:31.05 | ugjka | much appreciated |
| 10:31.40 | xyquadrat-M | Nah, give one to Aleix Pol, he coded the feature IIRC |
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| 10:34.31 | ugjka | cool |
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| 10:52.26 | ugjka | xyquadrat-M: it opens the man page in firefox though |
| 10:52.43 | ugjka | do i need something to display it directly in dolphin |
| 10:53.42 | xyquadrat-M | ugjka: The idea was that it'd open in firefox. Another option is to use Konqueror as your file manager, there it'll open in the same window as Konqueror has an embedded browser |
| 10:54.36 | xyquadrat-M | ugjka: of course, there is also another way. |
| 10:55.07 | xyquadrat-M | You can open Helpcenter, where you'll find a section "UNIX manual pages" |
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| 10:55.32 | xyquadrat-M | In there, all man pages are also viewable - probably in a more comfortable way than if you'd use dolphin -> firefox |
| 10:57.42 | xyquadrat-M | If you want to open a specific manpage in khelpcenter, use `khelpcenter man:ls` (or any other command) |
| 10:59.57 | ugjka | Khelpcenter is gret |
| 10:59.59 | ugjka | great |
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| 11:55.14 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 12:13.36 | I-have-terminal- | <xyquadrat-M "ugjka: I-have-terminal-AIDS Well"> That's really cool! thanks |
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| 12:36.14 | Nikky | hi, i hope this is the right channel to ask questions.. i am having trouble getting the menubar back into the taskbar, as i understand KDE will remove it automatically when it detects that i have a button in there or use the global menubar widget.. but even removing both does not bring it back |
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| 12:37.49 | Nikky | i am using 5.16.4 on manjaro |
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| 15:56.53 | Bitterblue | Hi. Where would I report a bug in the Notes widget, or possibly the text edit component it uses? |
| 15:57.21 | Bitterblue | I tried to find the source code, but I have no idea which package provides or where it lives on my computer. |
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| 16:02.03 | Bitterblue | Oh, found the source code at least. |
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| 16:07.06 | Bitterblue | So I guess the bug might be in PlasmaComponents.TextArea. The text is rendered a bit higher than it should be. |
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| 18:21.07 | magic_ninja | Man devs, you guys are killing it with the 5.17 release. Per-process network information, suspend-then-hibernate, etc. |
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| 19:34.54 | yann-kaelig | I can keep quiet for a while about all the bugs in the software, but when an update ( in this case in Dolphin ) which is suppose to fix a bug bring a new, I find it unacceptable. This is the proof that there is not even the minimum of a test performed on the software and a lack of respect towards the users who suffer the inconvenience in their daily work. |
| 19:36.07 | yann-kaelig | it's about dolphin which contains so many bugs that I come to think that none of the devs use it |
| 19:37.29 | yann-kaelig | potatoes sellers |
| 19:37.35 | cosimone | which bugs did you find? |
| 19:37.47 | cosimone | you can always report them on the bugzilla |
| 19:37.52 | yann-kaelig | Hi cosimone |
| 19:38.44 | yann-kaelig | I'ts not about reporting a bug, it's the fact that a minimum test is not done. |
| 19:39.14 | yann-kaelig | after a patch has been applied |
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| 19:39.28 | Bitterblue | You're the testing. |
| 19:40.29 | yann-kaelig | yes, I understood I'm the cobaye, but I'm using KDE tools for my daily work. |
| 19:41.11 | yann-kaelig | I don't know, if KDE tools are not production ready, just write it |
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| 19:45.43 | yann-kaelig | The dev with whom I work, he does not care about the problems of dolphin, and it is me who undergoes the consequences |
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| 20:18.51 | cosimone | what are some examples of bugs you found? |
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| 20:42.23 | asturm | so you think all your bugs are reproducible for everyone all of the time? |
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| 20:44.09 | Corosus | sure wish this one would get fixed one day, not fun having to restart it and lose all my tabs every few days https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393977 |
| 20:52.39 | Bitterblue | Corosus: Are you the person who reported that? |
| 20:57.29 | Corosus | nah, i am comment 21 though |
| 20:58.01 | Bitterblue | It looks like that Elvis person forgot a step in the instructions about using GDB. Between pressing Ctrl+C and copying the output you're supposed to type 'thread apply all bt' and copy the output of that, not so much the other stuff. |
| 20:58.44 | asturm | Corosus: do you use sftp access? |
| 20:58.48 | Bitterblue | The idea is to interrupt Dolphin's execution right when it's doing that unusual time-consuming thing and get the backtrace from that moment. |
| 20:59.16 | Bitterblue | The backtrace shows what function it's currently executing and how it got there. |
| 20:59.30 | Bitterblue | You need debugging symbols too. |
| 20:59.39 | Corosus | i do technically have a location setup under the Remote section thats using the fish:// protocal that is sftp ya, i havent used it in many months though, so it just sits there |
| 21:01.01 | Corosus | hmm given that info above i might be able to provide better output at the time the problem is happening when i get some extra time to setup that test |
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| 21:05.05 | Bitterblue | And I see that bugreporter11 even forgot to press Ctrl+C, because I don't see the output that GDB prints when you do that. |
| 21:05.30 | Bitterblue | Basically, GDB is useless if you just run Dolphin in it and wait for some message to appear. |
| 21:06.58 | Bitterblue | In this case, you have to interrupt Dolphin's execution yourself with Ctrl+C at the right time, and then type 'thread apply all bt' to get something useful from GDB. |
| 21:10.19 | Bitterblue | Another thing you can do if you can trigger the slowness quickly after starting Dolphin, and if the slowness lasts many seconds, is to run Dolphin in perf. Run "perf record -- dolphin", trigger the slowness, close Dolphin, "perf report". It will give you a list of functions sorted by execution time. |
| 21:10.33 | Bitterblue | Debugging symbols would be good for that too, or at least an unstripped binary. |
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| 21:19.00 | yann-kaelig | there are ao much bugs in dolphin that I can list them all here because I would be accused of flood on the channel ... ^^ |
| 21:25.58 | yann-kaelig | Selecting on or more files/folders for a copy or a move to not release the selected files/folders after the move/copy. Sometimes dophin take the decision to randomly select some files. |
| 21:28.27 | yann-kaelig | When dolphin is used in splitted mode, the terminal do not always follow the selected view |
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| 23:52.14 | minall | Hello kde! |
| 23:52.22 | minall | I'm using KDE on Debian stable, new installation |
| 23:52.30 | minall | And I have a popup window that asks me: |
| 23:52.52 | minall | authentication dialog, username and password to access this site |
| 23:53.01 | minall | Site: mail.google.com in mail.google.com |
| 23:53.07 | minall | Username: |
| 23:53.09 | minall | Password: |
| 23:53.52 | minall | I tried to add my google password and username, but It says it is wrong no matter what I do |