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00:17.38jankusanagi_I don't use that launcher, but other people have mentioned the same thing, yes
00:17.43jankusanagi_unless that was you xD
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00:19.31gugahjankusanagi_ might have been me
00:19.32gugahXD
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00:33.54fructoseHow do I get konsole to just open links in my browser and not check its MIME type first?
00:37.57jankusanagi_Plasma's system settings → "Default Applications" → Web Browser
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00:45.12fructosejankusanagi_: Great, thanks
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01:54.40lperkins2So, I just hooked up a fancy new touchscreen as my right monitor under wayland plasma, and I can't figure out how to map the touch input to the right monitor (touchscreen input is via USB)
01:55.04lperkins2It's not in touchscreen settings, and it's not in monitor settings.  Anyone got a hint for me for where to look?
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02:31.51lperkins2Looks like it just auto attaches to the first screen found, which means I'm outta luck without patching the source, since the DP inputs come first on this card...
02:32.24lperkins2Anyone know which plasma component is likely to decide that so I can go patch it?
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02:38.24lperkins2Looks like it's kwin...
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02:53.06lperkins2It's impressive on keeping a lock on the screen it picks...  Rearranging them doesn't do anything, only thing that does is physically unplugging the other screen.
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03:32.49lperkins2Well, I managed to get it to work, for now, have to disable the non touchscreen monitor every time I log in, and then re-enable it and move everything back where it belongs...
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04:05.11lperkins2Well, it's functional, but not stable, plasma and kwin both keep crashing.  Think I'll grab the latest version and see if it's any better...
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06:34.41lperkins2Okay, updated version of kde5 and a reboot later, and the system is less stable than before...
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06:34.49lperkins2Is it worth grabbing the latest version from upstream?
06:35.14lperkins2Do I switch to the X11 version?  Do I dump kde as not ready for multi touchscreen use?
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07:55.56madpropshow can i make changes i make to ~/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop permanent ? im trying to make firefox use dolphin all the time
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08:00.08lperkins2Well, till I figure this out, or find a better wayland system, I guess I unify displays and see if it's at least stable enough to not crash...
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10:06.56lperkins2Well, the good news is it's not the multi-monitor that's making kde 5.16 unstable... I get crashes with only the touchscreen plugged in.
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10:59.24BluesKajHi folks
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12:04.21sffHi, quick question. For reference, I'm using Arch and KDE Plasma 5.16.4. I was wondering, when does KDE write a config file ~/.local/share/kscreen? I had an issue with it just now and I'm trying to determine what caused it.
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12:55.35gAb1hi, i still have the problem where the display configuration (multiple displays arrangement) is lost when i exit plasma (be it by shutting down or logging out)
12:56.32gAb1my question is: could it be possible that plasma, screen, xorg or whatever is responsible for writing this configuration can't do so because i start xorg as my user instead of root and it cannot write the configuration and so it's lost?
12:57.40gAb1s/screen/kscreen
12:58.32gAb1or should plasma, kscreen and xorg write only local config files inside  my home dir?
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12:59.37gAb1when i first checked the path ~/.local/share/kscreen there was a config file that i deleted hoping that i would be created again with the correct configuration
12:59.56gAb1but there has been nothing in that folder since i deleted the file a month or two ago
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13:06.18markandhello there
13:07.27markandI'm trying to build kauth 5.61.0, regarding kauth, it recommends that polkit-qt is installed before, but I can't understand/find which version to use, since two versions exist
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16:47.46nesc-MHi guys! I have a problem with kmail, it won't detect html emails and tries to display them as plain messages, I've searched for a bit and can't find anything. Had anyone had such problem?
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16:53.23nesc-MOh, my bad, somehow I've set Plain as message default format
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18:02.23oneforall2there a patch for this calligra-3.1.0 CalendarToolWidget.cpp:130:39: error: return type ‘class QDate’ is incomplete
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19:29.46kayouHello, I'm using KDE (ver 5.60) on Archlinux, and I've don't see anymore my contacts in Kaddressbook, I've open Akonadi console and be  able to check that they are still here, do someone know how to make them back visible in Kadressbook ? (sorry for my english)
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19:34.19kayouSorry for the noise, all is ok , the adressbook was only uncheck...
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19:39.50jankusanagi_for the record, the desktop environment made by KDE is called Plasma, and its latest version is 5.16.x
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19:44.51leon0402-Msent a long message: < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/kde.org/ywkHMxKnYMAHtdrKQcMdWvpq >
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19:45.40leon0402-MBut personally I use sometimes KDE and sometimes Plasma and sometimes KDE Plasma :D
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19:53.39GB_2-M☺
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19:56.24achillionKlasma
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19:58.12leon0402-MWe have to patent that name
19:59.49achillionIt's also Greek for "fraction" so you can be all sciencey
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20:08.53woenxHi. Does someone has experience editing KDE color schemes? I'm trying to change the color of one particular element, but I have succeeded yet...
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20:10.03achillionoh, I know how that feels
20:10.30achillionIt sucks but for me the best strategy has been to start changing things to ridiculous intense colours like red and orange until I find it
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20:11.04achillionthough tell me which element, maybe I remember some of them from back when I was trying stuff out
20:11.07woenxthat is what I am doing, but I don't see the color changing on what i want to change
20:11.15woenxok, I'll show you a screenshot
20:11.30achillionrighto
20:12.21woenxhttps://imgur.com/a/adpOOrx
20:12.28woenxOk, this is a capture of the software digikam
20:12.42woenxsee how every picture is surrounded by a grey square?
20:13.07woenxI want that to have the color as the background
20:13.36woenxThis is the color theme I'm trying to edit: https://store.kde.org/p/1001783/
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20:14.19achillionThere's always the possibility that the specific element doesn't take its colour from the theme, isn't there?
20:14.44leon0402-MTry a bunch of other colorschemes and look if the color changes
20:15.25woenxyes, that color changes, it's like a little frame around stuff
20:15.31woenxbut I don't know its name
20:15.46gAb1hi
20:15.53gAb1can someone tell me one thing
20:15.54achillioninstalls digikam and starts experimenting
20:16.41woenx:)
20:16.41woenxgAb1: what thing?
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20:16.41gAb1if i start xorg and plasma (startx) as my user, should plasma, kscreen and xorg write only local config files inside  my home dir?
20:17.18achillionI guess so?
20:17.25gAb1i'm trying to figure out why my display arrangement config is lost when i log out/shutdown
20:17.35woenxMmmm... I am not sure.
20:17.43gAb1then it's not a permissions problem
20:17.45woenxIt makes sense that it's like that
20:18.10gAb1some time ago i deleted the file inside ~/.local/share/kscreen
20:18.22gAb1and since then it has not been created again
20:18.55gAb1i don't know how to make the changes permanent
20:21.19gAb1i have this problem since i installed arch linux and plasma, i installed the package (can't remember the name) to manage displays in system settings and since then every time i started my computer i need to rearrange my 3 displays
20:21.48woenxI hate dealing with Xorg...
20:21.56gAb1not that it's annoying but i'd like to be able to fix it if it's a problem with my config and not a code problem
20:21.58woenxI don't think I can help you, sorry ;(
20:22.23gAb1you use wayland?
20:23.18gAb1i'm gonna try switching and see if the problem persists with wayland
20:26.34woenxNo, I have not tried wayland yet
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20:26.47oneforall2hmm I have that still on mine ~/.local/share/kscreen
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20:28.45achillionwoenx: Window Background
20:28.54woenxyes?
20:29.06woenxbut just the frame around, not the whole background
20:29.08achillionthat frame follows the colour of Window Background
20:29.16woenxahh
20:29.18woenxok
20:30.40achillionwoenx: https://i.imgur.com/HaLNyOu.png
20:30.57woenxMmm, I see
20:31.01woenxcan't they be edited separately?
20:31.29achillionDoesn't look like it
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20:32.07achillionIt seems digikam just uses that theme colour?  Not sure
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20:32.58achillionwoenx: maybe the appearance settings of Digikam itself can do something there
20:33.07woenxaha
20:33.10woenxI don't know
20:33.21woenxusing the default theme, you can barely see the white frame
20:33.26woenxI want that, but in dark :)
20:35.21achillionI know how it feels ^_^
20:36.13woenxOk, the color i want is 106,106,106
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20:40.12achillionwoenx: I wish you the best of luck
20:40.32woenxHaha, thank you
20:40.46woenxso far, I managed to match the background color when I hover over the image
20:40.54woenx(when the frame becomes slightly thicker)
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20:50.28woenxIt's weird. I set the Background color to the color of the actual backgroun
20:50.37woenxso they should be the same... but then it's still lighter!
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20:53.30arinovwoenx: they?
20:53.36woenxthe color
20:53.48arinovi mean background where?
20:54.10woenxin the color scheme of kde plasma
20:54.13woenxas seen in this screenshot
20:54.14woenxhttps://imgur.com/a/adpOOrx
20:54.29Lothaire-MKDE 3 was better imo
20:54.32woenx(i want to put those slightly darker frame around each picture the same color as the background)
20:56.13achillionwoenx: when I was testing, I had to restart digikam sometimes for the change to take effect
20:56.17achillionor at least change views
20:56.17arinovwoenx: i think its working different (don't know exactly), i believe its a alpha transparent rectangle which is has no color by itself or it has something like 50% black
20:56.41arinovmaybe it has an option to disable this frame at all?
20:56.58woenxif you change to another theme, and then change back, it loads the changes
20:57.09woenxahhh
20:57.10arinovblack)
20:57.11achillionright
20:57.14woenxand can that be edited?
20:57.31arinovi dont know, its my suppose only
20:57.40arinovbut try, may it be
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20:59.07arinovwoenx: i realize the best theme for everything is default)
20:59.39woenxbut i want a dark one!
20:59.39woenxxD
20:59.45arinovof course)
21:00.07arinovi remember in KDE 4 was a special color scheme called Ghost
21:00.24oneforall2any idea what I need to change when i copy a couple lines from ff to konsole(mcedit) it's putting a space between the lines
21:01.44arinovoneforall2: try to paste it in vim and see in hex mode whats the spaces you have
21:01.53arinovor any other hex
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21:03.17oneforall2kde4 to 5 lost darn near all my setting :)
21:03.53achillion5 years ago?
21:04.39arinovlol
21:05.22oneforall2na just resently ..
21:05.32oneforall2but does the same in vim
21:06.19oneforall2kwrite is fine
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21:06.32arinovoneforall2: it means maybe the web site fields has it inside (\n)
21:06.39woenxI'll name my new color scheme Fisher-Price :)
21:06.51achillion^_^
21:06.59arinovwoenx: not great, not terrible
21:07.03oneforall2that was vim in konsole though . will try it in xterm ..
21:08.00oneforall2kde4 same site no problem
21:08.14arinovmay I try it too?
21:08.17woenxarinov: you didn't see any #6F6F6F in the border, because it's not there!
21:08.17arinovis it open?
21:08.26arinovwoenx: yep)
21:08.43achillion:O Graphite!
21:10.03oneforall2exterm vim works
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21:11.48oneforall2pastes the line normal..
21:14.49woenxI've made it!
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21:15.11woenxI've increased little by little the brightness of the BackgroundNormal in [Colors:Window]
21:15.36woenxapparently, the brightness of the frame is a fraction of the background, not exactly the same color
21:16.48oneforall2line space 0px ..
21:21.44woenxIf anyone wants my super theme https://imgur.com/a/StZbmlL
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21:40.26achillionwoenx: prediction: As soon as you get the theme where you think you want it, you will find that you don't quite like the new look and revert to default, regretting all the time you put into it :P
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21:59.40woenxachillion: probably, but at meanwhile i'm learning
22:00.45achillion^_^
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