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| 00:25.00 | kinghat | where does the shortcut gui in settings get its info? it is showing two launchers that i done have installed. |
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| 01:50.16 | GammaSigmaBeta | Hello. |
| 01:51.01 | JanKusanagi | o/ |
| 01:54.00 | GammaSigmaBeta | I'm using Qubes 4.0.2 and KDE Plasma 5.10. I had an issue of application launcher entry flickering/shaking left/right on hover and left/right button that is lagging. |
| 01:56.53 | GammaSigmaBeta | What I've tried is configuring the compositor, but seeing that the flickering entry is only at the application launcher, this has no noticeable effect. |
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| 01:59.38 | GammaSigmaBeta | Is there a way to see what's causing this? |
| 02:03.17 | JanKusanagi | wow, Plasma 5.10... |
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| 02:22.46 | jhonar | hello, someone know how to use XCB library |
| 02:27.54 | jhonar | greetings |
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| 02:28.45 | jhonar | some xcb hacker :) |
| 02:31.26 | jhonar | greetings |
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| 02:38.09 | sarnold | jhonar: you may havemore success if you report what you've tried, where you're stuck, paste some code, etc |
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| 02:40.01 | jhonar | sarnold ok, I'm going to try your suggestion. |
| 02:40.05 | sarnold | :D |
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| 02:49.18 | JanKusanagi | and for the record, development topics (even though that's not really KDE-related, directly) make much more sense on #kde-devel |
| 02:49.40 | sarnold | ah nice |
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| 02:58.37 | jhonar | JanKusanagi, thanks |
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| 05:32.14 | kinghat | hey cool, found a reproducible bug, can someone confirm. go look in shortcut settings under plasma and note your launcher widgets, then add a couple default panels, then reload the shortcuts page by clicking an a different menu section and then go back to plasma shortcuts. see that shortcut entries were added for the application launchers, then go |
| 05:32.14 | kinghat | remove the added panels and refresh the shortcuts page again. for me the entries are still there. removing them from the local config file doesnt fix it and they get put right back in. |
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| 06:52.24 | Thalon | Hello. I'm happily using KDE apps under WSL (Windows Subsystem for linux). Now I wonder wether there is a way to run plasmashell without a desktop, i.e. just having the panel without covering my windows desktop. |
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| 06:52.36 | Thalon | Any ideas? |
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| 08:11.35 | CarlSchwan | <Thalon "Hello. I'm happily using KDE app"> When I was using i3 with Plasma, I was killing the windows with the title "Desktop â Plasma" so that I got only the panel. |
| 08:11.36 | CarlSchwan | Maybe something similar is possible with WSL |
| 08:11.37 | CarlSchwan | But I'm never used Windows so I not sure ;) |
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| 08:23.55 | memphisto | hi. i have battery charging but percentage goes backwords....since yesterday update i think |
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| 09:29.42 | [Lemmy] | aloha guys |
| 09:30.00 | [Lemmy] | quick question: what does one use for messenger functionality on plasma? |
| 09:30.12 | [Lemmy] | kopete's pretty much not maintained anymore or so it seems |
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| 09:32.46 | [Enrico] | [Lemmy]: there is no well maintained client in the KDE software sphere at the moment |
| 09:33.10 | [Lemmy] | that does not nound right |
| 09:33.22 | [Enrico] | there is Konversation for IRC, not sure if there is anything for Matrix. But nothing for google / facebook, XMPP and similar |
| 09:33.47 | [Enrico] | [Lemmy]: there are a lot of things that are not right with computers :) |
| 09:33.54 | [Lemmy] | i prefer kvirc over konversation... guess i'll stick with pidgin for messaging |
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| 09:34.36 | [Lemmy] | yah but i'm used to most of those broken things having a microsoft logo on them o.0 |
| 09:34.53 | [Lemmy] | so telepathy is pretty much stllborn? |
| 09:35.13 | [Lemmy] | i mean wasnt that supposed to be the framework to end all messaging woes? |
| 09:36.09 | [Enrico] | [Lemmy]: it was, but it's not maintained any longer |
| 09:36.14 | asturm | telepathy is dead upstream |
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| 09:40.05 | [Lemmy] | thought so |
| 09:40.34 | [Lemmy] | i guess part of the reason's all them damn teens not knowing anything other than whatsapp :P |
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| 11:08.10 | Artigiano | https://www.artigianoveronese.it/ |
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| 11:32.14 | morbid1-M | Does KDE have any opt-in telemetry? Or we can only help by submitting bugs (in terms of everyday usage contribution)? |
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| 11:44.17 | morbid1-M | Also, would it be possible to integrate Basket into Kontact for notes? It's much more advanced than just yellow stickers |
| 11:45.10 | asturm | morbid1-M: basket is not a KDE project |
| 11:47.48 | asturm | they could make a kontactplugin though |
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| 11:56.04 | morbid1-M | Was it dropped when migrating to Qt5? It's still listed at store.kde.org |
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| 11:56.58 | asturm | morbid1-M: no, here is upstream of basket: https://github.com/basket-notepads/basket |
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| 11:58.06 | morbid1-M | <asturm "morbid1: no, here is upstream of"> > BasKet Note Pads - an system for organizing information in KDE. |
| 11:59.28 | morbid1-M | > <@_freenode_asturm:kde.org> morbid1: no, here is upstream of basket: https://github.com/basket-notepads/basket |
| 11:59.28 | morbid1-M | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:59.29 | morbid1-M | It mentions KDE in the first line :) |
| 11:59.35 | asturm | yes |
| 11:59.38 | asturm | but it is not a KDE project |
| 12:00.02 | asturm | it uses KDE Frameworks, but its upstream is not KDE |
| 12:00.08 | morbid1-M | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:00.09 | morbid1-M | It mentions KDE in the first line :) |
| 12:00.19 | morbid1-M | Ok, thanks |
| 12:00.47 | asturm | so, questions about basket features would have to be raised at the address I provided you with |
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| 12:01.16 | morbid1-M | Thanks |
| 12:01.33 | asturm | it would also help if they fixed their description |
| 12:01.59 | asturm | but alas, there's not much going on in that repository it seems |
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| 12:10.22 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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| 12:30.49 | sekisushai | hello, I'm having a trouble since yesterday with kmail / gmail account |
| 12:32.31 | sekisushai | my gmail account with imap settings refused to connect suddenly, so i deleted it in kmail and recreated a new one. When setting "imap.gmail.com" a web page open and asks to connect to gmail |
| 12:32.42 | sekisushai | with Akonadi Resources for Google Services |
| 12:34.36 | sekisushai | but after login in, it says "Sign in with Google temporarily disabled for this app" |
| 12:37.09 | CarlSchwan | <sekisushai "but after login in, it says "Sig"> This is a know "feature" from gmail, there is a workaround |
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| 12:38.15 | CarlSchwan | https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/cj7t7c/kmail_doesnt_let_me_sign_in_with_gmail/ |
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| 12:44.18 | brli-M | my gmail account (IMAP) under kmail get offlined today, any idea? (but looking at firefox gmail.com it seems fine and no warning message received) |
| 12:44.42 | asturm | time to jump ship |
| 12:45.13 | CarlSchwan | brli: go two comments above in the discussion |
| 12:45.36 | CarlSchwan | and I agree with asturm time to change your email provider ð |
| 12:46.25 | brli-M | hm, the situation is a bit weird, that I have three google accounts, but only one got dropped... |
| 12:47.49 | CarlSchwan | Since it's started one month ago, I suspect Gmail is dropping progressively each account or it's just because of the auth token refresh process |
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| 12:50.37 | morbidmind | You can create an app password and use PLAIN authentication in settings in Kontact |
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| 12:57.42 | morbidmind | Kmail* |
| 12:58.35 | brli-M | morbid: that was how this I add this account |
| 12:59.11 | morbidmind | That's weird. Standard auth didn't work for me, so I did this and it work. It was this weekend |
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| 13:02.17 | brli-M | anyway, I think I'll have to workaround it for the moment by using the web interface... |
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| 14:42.18 | morbidmind | Since KDE accepted Matrix as communication, it would be nice to have some link to it on the main page. Maybe next to social media icons on the bottom? |
| 14:42.19 | morbidmind | The first mention of it is under "Get Involved" and it links to #freenode_#kde-welcome:matrix.org which is hosted on Matrix.org homeserver, and not KDE's one. And they have a long term plan of killing that main server for people to use their own. |
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| 14:50.41 | Fuchs | I think it fits well there, among with the other real time communication protocols. The main page also doesn't promote other tools used, such as the mailing lists, the forums, phabricator/gitlab or the likes |
| 14:50.52 | Fuchs | the link, however, sounds like something that should be fixed |
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| 15:01.37 | morbidmind | <Fuchs "the link, however, sounds like s"> It's not about the link, whole room needs to be migrated to KDE's homeserver |
| 15:03.30 | CarlSchwan | Isn't the room hosted in freenode anyway? |
| 15:04.32 | JanKusanagi | the IRC side of it, is |
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| 15:05.49 | Fuchs | CarlSchwan: it is, yeah, but it might still need migration on the Matrix side, I don't closely follow the Matrix side, tbh. I thought it was long time ago migrated |
| 15:05.57 | Fuchs | potentially something for #kde-matrix-support, then |
| 15:09.12 | morbidmind | <Fuchs "potentially something for #kde-"> Is that group IRC only? It's not listed in the room directory. Would be ironical :) |
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| 15:12.33 | Fuchs | I have no idea as I avoid Matrix as good as I can, but my best guess would be: no, it's also available from Matrix |
| 15:12.55 | Fuchs | technically all rooms on freenode are bridged unless matrix is blocked, so it should be joinable |
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| 16:42.08 | apadgett-M | Hi |
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| 18:43.42 | jilocasin | afternoon everyone |
| 18:44.08 | jilocasin | Does anyone know how to *stop* scroll bars from disappearing? Thanks. |
| 18:44.14 | devalot | Does anyone know of a plasmoid or app that will indicate workspaces with WM_URGENT windows? I don't want a full task list, just windows that are demanding attention. |
| 18:45.13 | devalot | jilocasin: I believe that's something you can tweak in the system settings. |
| 18:46.17 | jilocasin | devalot: yea, I was hoping so, but _where_? |
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| 18:47.55 | JanKusanagi | scrollbars disappearing where? |
| 18:48.24 | JanKusanagi | sounds like it must be a Breeze thing, certainly not an issue with Oxygen... |
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| 19:03.45 | jilocasin | JanKusanagi: When the scroll bars aren't selected they disappear, when you hover over them they thicken up. |
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| 19:04.37 | JanKusanagi | but the scroll bars where? |
| 19:04.44 | JanKusanagi | inside Dolphin, for instance? |
| 19:05.40 | jilocasin | JanKusanagi: Inside dolphin, eclipse, LibreOffice, System Settings, everything |
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| 19:06.26 | JanKusanagi | well, at least inside Dolphin, that's up to the Qt theme you're using, which is probably de default Breeze |
| 19:06.32 | JanKusanagi | they certainly don't disappear with Oxygen |
| 19:06.43 | JanKusanagi | so it's a theme-dependant thing |
| 19:07.29 | jilocasin | JanKusanagi: Everywhere except xfce-term for example. |
| 19:08.10 | jilocasin | JanKusanagi: Yes, I only have breeze and breeze dark (currently using breeze) |
| 19:09.14 | JanKusanagi | well, in the kind of themes I mean (application style) there's no such thing as "breeze dark", it's just "breeze" with whatever palette you want to use... like if you want all yellow tones |
| 19:10.07 | JanKusanagi | anyway, you can check that with Oxygen, Fusion or other Qt application styles the scrollbars don't have that issue |
| 19:10.24 | JanKusanagi | then you can look at all the Breeze style settings to see if there's any option regarding that |
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| 19:33.28 | jilocasin | JanKusanagi:Switched to Oxygen, now some stay and some don't |
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