| 00:00.26 | JanKusanagi | well, they don't need to be made by KDE; probably any Qt-based program would respect proper floating-point scaling |
| 00:00.52 | CuCHulaind | Copy |
| 00:07.23 | CuCHulaind | JanKusanagi, My toolbar icons on the left (pinned programs) are the size I want, presumably from when I configured it and increased the vertical size, the icons on the right are smaller however (wifi, battery power, etc), how do I inrease the size of these? |
| 00:08.02 | JanKusanagi | I guess the ones on the right are the ones _inside_ the system tray |
| 00:08.24 | JanKusanagi | and I don't think you can make them bigger (beyond what the global scaling does) |
| 00:08.28 | CuCHulaind | IC |
| 00:08.50 | JanKusanagi | some of them are regular plasmoids that you could add by themselves to the panel, _outside_ the system tray |
| 00:09.09 | JanKusanagi | then they would be like any other icon on the panel (presumably, like the ones you "have on the left") |
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| 00:09.21 | JanKusanagi | I'm assuming you're calling the panel "toolbar" |
| 00:09.28 | CuCHulaind | sorry, yes |
| 00:10.03 | JanKusanagi | for the future, "toolbars" are something used inside programs, usually right below the menu bar |
| 00:10.04 | CuCHulaind | BRB |
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| 00:10.23 | CuCHulaind | Understood. Been around windows users too much |
| 00:10.38 | JanKusanagi | AFAIK, "toolbar" means that on mswindows too =) |
| 00:11.06 | JanKusanagi | what in Plasma Desktop we call "a panel", they call "a task bar" |
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| 00:11.22 | CuCHulaind | Task bar is what I was looking for |
| 00:12.32 | JanKusanagi | well, in Plasma we have panels xD |
| 00:13.10 | JanKusanagi | the default panel has a "task manager" widget, but you can have more panels, with or without a task manager widget |
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| 00:26.14 | CuCHulaind | JanKusanagi, you mentioned earlier changing the DPI setting. The DPI setting in the fonts section? What does this do exactly? |
| 00:27.52 | JanKusanagi | it changes the relationship between what's a "font point" and what's a pixel on screen |
| 00:28.06 | CuCHulaind | ok |
| 00:28.09 | JanKusanagi | DPI means dots-per-inch |
| 00:28.38 | JanKusanagi | so it affects how many pixels will be used to "fill" a physical inch of the screen surface, so to speak |
| 00:29.22 | JanKusanagi | however, if you're going to use "global scaling" you should probably not change font DPI settings, or not by much |
| 00:30.46 | CuCHulaind | Reading up on it now (72 pt = 1" etc) |
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| 09:07.01 | ricks_ | Hello. I am interested in using a rolling release based distro for KDE, any suggestions? I come from Gentoo if that helps any. |
| 09:07.54 | ricks_ | Opensuse's installer doesn't play well with my hardware, apparently |
| 09:08.07 | lod__ | arch |
| 09:08.28 | ricks_ | Can I do a chroot install without an existing arch install? |
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| 09:09.40 | lod__ | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_existing_Linux |
| 09:09.51 | ricks_ | Sweet! Thanks lod__ |
| 09:12.45 | lod__ | you're welcome |
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| 13:22.46 | Yukinoroh | hello |
| 13:23.30 | Yukinoroh | has anyone ever had trouble with dead keys? gtk applications handle them fine but not qt-based one. I'm missing something but I am not sure what |
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| 13:37.10 | jankusanagi_ | do you have an example? |
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| 13:49.54 | thiago | Yukinoroh: no, dead keys have been working fine since 2001 |
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| 13:50.45 | thiago | what is the xkb_symbols line in setxkbmap -print's output? And what combination are you pressing? |
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| 14:56.27 | Yukinoroh | thiago: still right now they are only working in gtk-based applications... what could I be missing? |
| 14:57.48 | Yukinoroh | thiago: https://pastebin.com/qgGEcR08 |
| 14:58.49 | Yukinoroh | thiago: any french-canadien deadkey combinations |
| 14:59.04 | Yukinoroh | like ^a = â, ¸c = Ä |
| 14:59.15 | Yukinoroh | I mean, ¸c = ç |
| 15:01.09 | Yukinoroh | I am in xchat, it does work, firefox works, thunderbird too, all software works but progs like k3b do not, until recently skype didn't work either, now it does |
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| 15:05.13 | dorirod-M | hello recently installed Kubuntu 18.04.2 LTS and I've run across a weird issue. If I leave /home mounted on the same FS as / I can login fine, but I would like to move /home to a different partition, and I attempt to login with an account whose home is on that partition plasmashell crashes. I've tried creating a brand new account and also copying the /home/<user> from root which works, and it still doesn't work. I'm not on |
| 15:05.13 | dorirod-M | that system right now,but if anyone can think of anything to try please let me know. Thanks |
| 15:06.06 | dorirod-M | btw, that partition works fine on previous 16 LTS version of Kubuntu so no corruption of FS or partition |
| 15:07.00 | jankusanagi_ | do you have any details of the crash? can you run plasmashell from a Konsole window? |
| 15:07.38 | dorirod-M | the apps run, but none of the UI is available, at some point I was able to run firefox and konsole, but now they're gone and I can't bring them up |
| 15:07.56 | dorirod-M | if I retry launching plasmashell it just crashes again |
| 15:08.13 | jankusanagi_ | the interesting part would be to see what the output of plasmashell in the Konsole window is |
| 15:08.42 | SGOrava | maybe wrongly mounted directory |
| 15:08.58 | dorirod-M | currently not sure how I can launch konsole from the same session |
| 15:09.24 | dorirod-M | I used the same mount options from v16 LTS that I have on that same system |
| 15:09.26 | jankusanagi_ | see if you can make KRunner appear with alt+space |
| 15:09.35 | jankusanagi_ | or with alt+f2 |
| 15:09.49 | dorirod-M | alt+f2 doesn't bring up anything, haven't tried alt+space |
| 15:10.32 | jankusanagi_ | assuming you use Plasma on Xorg, you can probably login to a tty and launch "DISPLAY=:0 konsole" on it |
| 15:10.41 | jankusanagi_ | (if KRunner doesn't work) |
| 15:10.55 | dorirod-M | jankusanagi_: thanks, hadn't thought of that |
| 15:11.35 | jankusanagi_ | you can also try ctrl+esc to launch "System Activity" |
| 15:11.53 | jankusanagi_ | which among other things, has a Tools menu with a "Konsole" option |
| 15:15.46 | thiago | Yukinoroh: please launch xev and press the <dead_circumflex> key. What does it show? You should see something like: |
| 15:15.51 | thiago | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:25.17 | Yukinoroh | thiago: https://pastebin.com/z985pJW9 |
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| 15:27.16 | thiago | what's your locale? see output of "locale" command |
| 15:27.43 | Yukinoroh | thiago: https://pastebin.com/dmuUaKnq |
| 15:28.06 | Yukinoroh | I use French and Japanese daily |
| 15:28.14 | Yukinoroh | and living in Japan |
| 15:28.26 | Yukinoroh | so for that reason I have a Japanese locale |
| 15:28.59 | Yukinoroh | but keyboard is french-canadian |
| 15:29.09 | Yukinoroh | this setting has never been a problem in gnome/gtk |
| 15:29.21 | Yukinoroh | but countless times a problem in kde/qt :( |
| 15:32.03 | thiago | it might be your compose map that has a problem |
| 15:32.26 | Yukinoroh | where is that located? |
| 15:32.53 | thiago | /usr/share/X11/locale/ja_JP.UTF-8/Compose |
| 15:33.28 | thiago | mine here just includes the en_US.UTF-8, which does have the mapping for <dead_circumflex> <a> |
| 15:33.31 | Yukinoroh | all I see in that file is include "/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose" |
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| 15:33.47 | thiago | same here |
| 15:34.20 | Yukinoroh | yeah as I said the dead keys are working fine in gtk applications, but not kde/qt based ones |
| 15:35.12 | Yukinoroh | is it possible that kde applications require a french canadian locale to use a french canadian keyboard? |
| 15:36.07 | thiago | no, UTF-8 should suffice |
| 15:36.35 | thiago | can you test a pure X application, like xterm? |
| 15:36.47 | thiago | Gtk has its own, internal handling of the compose map. |
| 15:37.39 | Yukinoroh | xterm has a different behaviour, the dead keys get eaten |
| 15:37.45 | Yukinoroh | as in kde applications I would see ^a |
| 15:38.01 | Yukinoroh | but in xterm the ^ gets eaten, never appears and the a has no hat |
| 15:38.21 | Yukinoroh | SDL applications like SecondLife does that too |
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| 15:39.34 | Yukinoroh | yeah, behaves like secondlife... japanese input is not inside the line , appears in a separate box |
| 15:39.43 | Yukinoroh | that,s a different behaviour, but also a problem :P |
| 15:42.23 | Yukinoroh | I was thinking scim could be eating the dead keys... or perhaps the scim-qt part |
| 15:43.10 | Yukinoroh | but I tried googling and tried some "export" before the commands, to not use scim... I am not sure I am trying it right |
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| 15:51.41 | Yukinoroh | thiago: read above, I did test xterm |
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| 16:00.56 | thiago | ah, it can be your input method |
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| 16:01.16 | Yukinoroh | thiago: is there a way to turn it off just for one command? |
| 16:01.36 | thiago | yes |
| 16:01.40 | Yukinoroh | how? |
| 16:01.46 | thiago | try setting QT_IM_MODULE=xim |
| 16:02.00 | Yukinoroh | you mean QT_IM_MODULE=xim xterm ? |
| 16:02.03 | thiago | though if pure X apps are workign, XIM is probably at fault too |
| 16:02.34 | thiago | QT_IM_MOUDLE for Qt applications. I don't know how to configure XIM. |
| 16:02.41 | thiago | Sorry, that's an area I have no expertise with |
| 16:02.57 | Yukinoroh | QT_IM_MODULE=xim xterm also does not work |
| 16:03.40 | Yukinoroh | basically scim you can turn it on or off |
| 16:04.01 | Yukinoroh | it is off now and I can turn it on with ctrl+space æ¥æ¬èª to type japanese |
| 16:05.28 | thiago | try QT_IM_MODULE=comppose kwrite |
| 16:06.23 | thiago | never mind, xim == compose for Qt |
| 16:06.47 | Yukinoroh | I don't have kwrite |
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| 16:06.49 | thiago | what is QT_IM_MODULE set in the environment for you? |
| 16:06.56 | Yukinoroh | how do I check that? |
| 16:07.03 | thiago | echo $QT_IM_MODULE |
| 16:07.14 | Yukinoroh | it says xim |
| 16:07.21 | Yukinoroh | maybe because I just changed it? |
| 16:07.37 | thiago | open a new shell and check it |
| 16:07.58 | Yukinoroh | ah, in a new shell it says nothing |
| 16:08.01 | Yukinoroh | blank line |
| 16:10.40 | Yukinoroh | sorry |
| 16:10.41 | Yukinoroh | it says xim |
| 16:10.47 | Yukinoroh | I think I had a typo |
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| 18:11.19 | gloin | I've got a broken notification that won't clear. There's no process name, just an activity slider and a pause button that does nothing. Rebooting doesn't fix it. Is there a datafile somewhere I can delete this random weird line from? Other notifications are working fine. |
| 18:12.06 | Dwarf | Nice nickname/ |
| 18:12.18 | gloin | Same :) |
| 18:13.13 | gloin | Here's what I mean: https://i.imgur.com/xSVaYUw.png |
| 18:13.35 | gloin | Clicking the arrow selector to the right just causes it to point down instead of to the right and nothing else happens. |
| 18:15.04 | gloin | heh |
| 18:15.25 | gloin | issuing akonadictl stop fixed it - I got "action failed" and then the notification went away |
| 18:15.32 | gloin | has not been loving akonadi :( |
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| 18:22.07 | Guest53436 | hello, is there easy way to have proxy set in one user account and no proxy in other? |
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| 18:22.47 | Guest53436 | like, proxy for work user and when im home i login as other and have no proxy set |
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| 18:26.31 | SGOrava | Guest53436: have you checked Proxy setting in SystemSettings ? |
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| 18:27.13 | SGOrava | you can also configure proxy in NetworkManager and connect with proxyConnection at work and normal at home |
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| 18:33.29 | Guest53436 | ok im dumb, i thought i had it set in SystemSettings, but it was in YaST2 actually |
| 18:33.46 | Guest53436 | so i guess it works as i want by default |
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| 18:35.13 | Guest53436 | cant see proxy settings inside NN though |
| 18:35.35 | Guest53436 | anyway, thanks X-D |
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| 18:54.15 | Itoma-M | What verison of the Linux kernel comes with the latest version of KDE neon (user edition)? |
| 18:54.22 | Itoma-M | version* |
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| 18:59.25 | asturm | the linux kernel? |
| 18:59.45 | asturm | ah, the question is that way |
| 18:59.53 | makr8100 | 4.18 |
| 19:00.04 | makr8100 | https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kdeneon and look for the package "linux" |
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| 19:00.45 | Itoma-M | What? |
| 19:01.06 | Itoma-M | Ah thanks |
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| 19:03.07 | makr8100 | somehow I just found out about kde neon earlier today, but my guess is the update repos would get you up to 5.x |
| 19:03.19 | makr8100 | maybe |
| 19:03.22 | makr8100 | idk for sure |
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| 19:29.09 | Itoma-M | Yeah I need at least 4.17 (I think) to be able to boot on my Ryzen mobile CPU |
| 19:29.49 | Itoma-M | I would install Parabola, but I can't boot into the install media because of the out of date kernel |
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| 19:39.32 | zChris2 | Why does it show as black when i have chosen breeze ? |
| 19:39.34 | zChris2 | https://i.imgur.com/qjQAKVq.png |
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| 20:17.39 | leemox | Hi! I see that the file properties in Dolphin are not displayed until the file is indexed. This does not apply to external devices, where indexing is turned off. Is this a known problem? How I you fix it? |
| 20:19.13 | leemox | *How I can fix it? |
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| 22:12.16 | legodude | hi folks, are higher or lower priority numbers for Wifi networks "better" |
| 22:15.23 | d42 | legodude: tooltip says higher is better :V |
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| 22:32.14 | mattfly | how can i start certain application on certain desktop? |
| 22:35.52 | d42 | mattfly: once or always? :^) |
| 22:36.44 | mattfly | both |
| 22:36.49 | mattfly | always |
| 22:37.34 | d42 | you can do the always thing if you hit alt+f3 on window -> more actions -> application settings |
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| 22:43.13 | mattfly | is there a way that i can request all the openned windows and set them to keeep on the desktop they are and save their starting commands? :P |
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| 22:43.37 | mattfly | because the default session saving option isnt working |
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| 23:11.55 | dorirod-M | hello, having a weird issue with launching kde on kubuntu 18 LTS, it works fine if I leave the /home directory under '/' partition and file system, if I switch to a different partition (same user, even re-created /home/<user> kde won't run properly, plasmashell dies I think. Anyone have any idea as to what it might be? The partition that I want to use as /home runs fine in kubuntu 16 lts, same mount options |
| 23:13.06 | dorirod-M | is there some way I can run it in debug mode to see what's failing/crashing? |
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| 23:14.35 | dorirod-M | d@lexx:~$ mprotect failed in ExecutableAllocator::makeExecutable: Permission denied<br /> |
| 23:14.36 | dorirod-M | *** stack smashing detected ***: <unknown> terminated<br /> |
| 23:14.37 | dorirod-M | KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/bin/plasmashell from kdeinit |
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| 23:25.25 | dorirod-M | does anyone have any ideas as to how I can troubleshoot this? |
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| 23:39.00 | jankusanagi_ | maybe some dangling .Xauthority or something? |
| 23:39.16 | jankusanagi_ | did you get to launch Konsole and then launch plasmashell inside it? |
| 23:40.24 | dorirod-M | jankusanagi_: yes I w as able to, not sure it's much use, I'll post pastebin |
| 23:42.14 | dorirod-M | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VNNdvXMNHD/ |
| 23:43.07 | dorirod-M | I don't think it's .Xauthority as I started with a fresh /home/ directory (only thing is where it's located) |
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| 23:46.37 | jankusanagi_ | have you tried launching it with just "plasmashell &" ? |
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| 23:49.53 | dorirod-M | jankusanagi_: yeah, same result |
