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| 09:45.39 | ychaouche | Hello #kde |
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| 09:52.47 | ychaouche | I need to disable external drive automounts and I don't know where to start. Any help appreciated. |
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| 09:54.01 | ychaouche | ah ok found it under System settings > Removable devices |
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| 10:47.36 | isomari_ | greetings, how can I force wndows to open on active screen in dual screen setup? |
| 10:48.02 | achillion | Could use a catch-all rule |
| 10:48.22 | achillion | See Settings > Window Management > Window Rules |
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| 10:49.21 | achillion | Can't remember if there's a setting for this. Can't find one right now anyway. |
| 10:52.07 | achillion | isomari_: hm, now that I think about it, active screen might be an issue. |
| 10:52.24 | achillion | Since in rules you can specify screen number, but active screen changes... |
| 10:53.10 | achillion | That said, for me it looks like new windows do open on the active screen by default |
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| 11:00.43 | isomari_ | achillion: but that's not happening for me. I have a laptop and an external monitor. the externall monitor has 2 inputs. 1 I use for the laptop 2nd screen and the other for another system. If, the external is on the other system and I on app on the laptop, it often goes to the external monitor which may be currently showing another system. |
| 11:01.02 | isomari_ | i hope that's not confusing. |
| 11:01.10 | achillion | No I think I get it |
| 11:01.48 | isomari_ | so it's annoying to have to have to switch the monito to the second input. |
| 11:02.02 | achillion | is it possible the active screen at the time is the other one though? For instance, might there be a window on the other screen that has focus making it the active screen? |
| 11:03.06 | isomari_ | possible but unlikely seeing that I rarely use it at work. At home it's only the laptop and the external which is always visible. |
| 11:03.15 | achillion | isomari_: so back to the original suggestion, you could force new windows to always open on screen 1, regardless of whether it's the "active" one or not. |
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| 11:03.40 | isomari_ | that may work but would be a pain in the neck when I'm home. |
| 11:03.41 | achillion | another workaround might be to bind a key for "window to next screen" and just hit it whenever a focused window is there (it's a pretty useful shortcut in general :) ) |
| 11:04.04 | isomari_ | that sounds promising. |
| 11:04.17 | achillion | I use it a lot |
| 11:04.47 | isomari_ | How would that work? Trying to siwtch it on the pager does not work. That would have been ideal. |
| 11:05.55 | isomari_ | is there any tool that lists all open windows and allows you to move them? |
| 11:07.04 | achillion | well the alt tab switcher shows all open windows (or can be made to), so I guess you would select the window from the other screen, hit the next-screen shortcut, and it would move to the visible screen |
| 11:07.27 | isomari_ | I'll look into that. Thanks |
| 11:08.17 | achillion | I wonder if it would be simpler to disable the second screen when you're not using it |
| 11:08.26 | achillion | unless I guess that might mess up your panel layouts? |
| 11:08.43 | isomari_ | achillion: because onec in a blue moon I need it. :-) |
| 11:08.48 | achillion | right |
| 11:09.32 | isomari_ | which brings me to another issue. If I boot my laptop without a second monitor, my panels are superimposed. |
| 11:09.47 | isomari_ | very disturbing |
| 11:10.24 | isomari_ | sometimes even my wallpapers get switched. |
| 11:10.30 | achillion | heh |
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| 11:10.36 | achillion | it's not an easy problem, I guess |
| 11:11.05 | isomari_ | not at all. But I live with it. overall I love plasma. Nothing is perfect. |
| 11:11.05 | achillion | back when I had similar work layouts, I gave up on having panels on the second screen |
| 11:11.14 | isomari_ | hmmm |
| 11:11.42 | isomari_ | Would activites help? I never used them before. |
| 11:12.05 | achillion | I think they might. I haven't used them either. I imagine it's possible to have a single screen activity and a dual screen one |
| 11:12.35 | isomari_ | I think it's time to dig into that. I've been putting it off for years. |
| 11:13.40 | achillion | Sounds like fun :) |
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| 11:14.12 | isomari_ | Thanks for your help. gotta run ..... |
| 11:14.17 | achillion | later |
| 11:14.19 | achillion | yq |
| 11:14.23 | achillion | you're welcome* |
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| 11:23.34 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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| 13:30.53 | cqs | is it possible to set 'permanent notifications' in plasma? so they keep open until user appears active? |
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| 13:32.45 | SanskritFritz | cqs: the time is set by the application, but there is a history maintained by plasma in the tray |
| 13:33.21 | SanskritFritz | cqs: but it is possible if you set the time. |
| 13:33.54 | SanskritFritz | meaning it is your notification, for example from kdialog |
| 13:34.40 | cqs | i can see nothing like a time setup for not. |
| 13:35.17 | SanskritFritz | kdialog --passivepopup "Hello" 300 |
| 13:35.49 | SanskritFritz | this way the notification will stay up for 300 seconds |
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| 13:37.45 | cqs | i see |
| 13:38.01 | cqs | will check whether e.g. kontact has something like that |
| 13:38.30 | Fuchs | for what part of kontact do you need persistent notifications? |
| 13:38.45 | Fuchs | if kmail or akregator: note that both support both a tray icon and a counter in the taskmanager |
| 13:39.09 | cqs | cool |
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| 13:39.31 | Fuchs | also the notifications are currently being rewritten, |
| 13:39.40 | Fuchs | so chances are that you can do whatever it is you plan doing in the next version of plasma |
| 13:40.40 | cqs | amazing |
| 13:41.05 | Fuchs | yes, isn't it |
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| 15:02.31 | ilmaisin | hello |
| 15:02.59 | ilmaisin | if i want to report a bug againts kde's flatpak runtime, is an issue at invent.kde.org enough or should i use bugs.kde.org? |
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| 15:12.23 | ilmaisin | https://invent.kde.org/kde/flatpak-kde-runtime/issues/1 i made yesterday one issue there but there doesn't seem to be many bug reports at invent |
| 15:16.26 | JanKusanagi | no idea... maybe ask in #kde-devel |
| 15:17.07 | JanKusanagi | you could also check if there's a "flatpak" product (or similar) available on bugs.kde.org |
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| 15:19.58 | efm | hello. How do I disable vlc audio play back controls in the KDE lock screen in kubuntu 18.04 |
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| 15:20.45 | JanKusanagi | if only for VLC, you should disable VLC's MPRIS interface |
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| 15:21.11 | efm | I would prefer to have a lockscreen that didn't allow device control. |
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| 15:21.27 | JanKusanagi | if you don't want any program to put media controls in Plasma's lock screen, then go to Plasma's system settings |
| 15:21.29 | efm | so, not just for vlc |
| 15:21.35 | JanKusanagi | to the Screen Locking section |
| 15:23.31 | efm | I apologize, but I can't find 'plasma' in the kde system settings. The screen locking config I can find, doesn't mention anything that looks like what I want. |
| 15:24.12 | efm | "lock screen automatically" "require password" "keyboard shortcut" |
| 15:24.18 | efm | "appearance" |
| 15:24.24 | JanKusanagi | there's no "Kde system settings", the environment is called Plasma Desktop |
| 15:24.59 | JanKusanagi | in the Screen Locking section of Plasma's system settings, appearance tab, there's a "show media controls" checkbox |
| 15:25.43 | ilmaisin | JanKusanagi: ok, thx |
| 15:27.06 | efm | I apologize, but I don't know how to get to 'the screen locking section of plasma's system settings, appearance tab' |
| 15:27.29 | efm | System Settings: Appearance: |
| 15:27.49 | efm | Workplace theme; Colors; Fonts; Icons; Application Style |
| 15:27.59 | efm | So I'm in the wrong place |
| 15:28.03 | BluesKaj | kmenu>favs>system settings |
| 15:28.24 | JanKusanagi | just use the search field in Plasma's system settings |
| 15:28.34 | JanKusanagi | bug you _were_ there before |
| 15:30.01 | efm | "Configure Sreen Locking" does not contain anything mentioning 'show media controls' |
| 15:30.38 | BluesKaj | there should be an "appearance" tab |
| 15:30.57 | efm | "show media controls" from the kmenu does not return any results |
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| 15:31.16 | efm | System Settings: Appearance: |
| 15:31.19 | jankusanagi_ | connection broke |
| 15:31.20 | efm | Workplace theme; Colors; Fonts; Icons; Application Style |
| 15:31.23 | jankusanagi_ | last I said: |
| 15:31.26 | jankusanagi_ | just use the search field in Plasma's system settings |
| 15:31.29 | jankusanagi_ | bug you _were_ there before |
| 15:31.32 | jankusanagi_ | you mentioned the "appearance" tab |
| 15:31.43 | jankusanagi_ | inside that tab, there's the "shoe media controls" option you want |
| 15:31.57 | jankusanagi_ | might be slightly different in your older version of Plasma, but not much different |
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| 15:33.03 | efm | The only options under Appearance, within System Settings are |
| 15:33.09 | efm | Workplace theme; Colors; Fonts; Icons; Application Style |
| 15:33.18 | jankusanagi_ | just use the search field |
| 15:33.25 | efm | there is no 'show media controls' |
| 15:33.25 | jankusanagi_ | just search for "Screen Locking" |
| 15:33.49 | jankusanagi_ | please run KInfoCenter and tell us your version of Plasma |
| 15:34.00 | jankusanagi_ | maybe in your version there was no option to disable that yet... |
| 15:34.12 | efm | KInfoCenter: command not found |
| 15:34.39 | Fuchs | efm: what distribution? |
| 15:34.46 | efm | Kubuntu 18.04 |
| 15:34.51 | jankusanagi_ | just use the search field in the application launcher |
| 15:35.07 | jankusanagi_ | if you want to run the command from a console window, the command is not in caps |
| 15:35.08 | Fuchs | plasmashell --version would work, but I more assume a lack of certain packages |
| 15:35.49 | Fuchs | and the lockscreen kcm there is not under appearance |
| 15:35.52 | Fuchs | but rather desktop behaviour |
| 15:35.59 | efm | plasma 5.12.7 |
| 15:36.01 | Fuchs | you can use the search (top right) in system settings |
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| 15:36.58 | efm | "Configure Sreen Locking" does not contain anything mentioning 'show media controls'. It has 'lock screen automatically' 'require password' 'keyboard shortcut' 'lock screen on resume' |
| 15:37.05 | efm | and an an appearance tab |
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| 15:37.44 | Fuchs | might be a too old plasma for having that |
| 15:37.47 | jankusanagi_ | if the option isn't anywhere inside the Screen Locking module, it's probably just something that was added later |
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| 15:38.09 | jankusanagi_ | I'm about to confirm with my Mageia 6 VM, which still has Plasma 5.12.x |
| 15:38.13 | jankusanagi_ | just a minute |
| 15:38.19 | Fuchs | they are configurable since 5.12.7: |
| 15:38.29 | Fuchs | or should be, according to the internets, hmm |
| 15:38.33 | efm | If the option to disable audio playback control from the lockscreen isn't available, why is audio playback control from the lockscreen enabled ? |
| 15:38.36 | Nomenclatura | Hi. anybody has had any luck setting up global proxy for plasma/kde ? |
| 15:39.07 | jankusanagi_ | simple, because that was added initially as an interesting feature |
| 15:39.24 | jankusanagi_ | only later someone might have complained that they didn't want there, and the option to remove it was added |
| 15:39.28 | Fuchs | anyway, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1127086/disable-display-of-media-controls-on-lock-screen-showmediacontrols-on-kde-plas has a fix, scroll down a bit |
| 15:39.41 | Nomenclatura | I have been trying to set it up but everything kde fails proxy connection. akonadi, konversation, the get new, etc |
| 15:39.42 | efm | and by the way, I do appreciate all of your help. if i sound in any way upset, it is with the tool, and not with your help |
| 15:40.04 | efm | you are all being very kind and helpful |
| 15:40.11 | jankusanagi_ | well, besides the fix Fuchs mentioned, just know that newer versions of "the tool" have what you want |
| 15:41.15 | jankusanagi_ | yep, indeed my Mageia6 VM doesn't have that option |
| 15:41.27 | jankusanagi_ | so it might have been added in Plasma 5.13 or later |
| 15:41.41 | Fuchs | 5.12 |
| 15:41.44 | Fuchs | but there was a bug |
| 15:41.44 | jankusanagi_ | not much later, probably... to me, it's been there for ages |
| 15:41.50 | Fuchs | so it wouldn't show there, despite it should |
| 15:41.57 | Fuchs | anyway, the above works around that |
| 15:41.59 | jankusanagi_ | (Mageia 7 has Plasma 5.15.x) |
| 15:42.03 | Fuchs | oh huh |
| 15:42.11 | Fuchs | then it should show, but the above would still work around that |
| 15:42.55 | jankusanagi_ | huh? efm has Plasma 5.12 |
| 15:43.30 | jankusanagi_ | and my Mageia6 VM also has Plasma 5.12, and also doesn't have the option to remove "media controls", just like efm's Kubuntu |
| 15:44.53 | efm | Fuchs: that looks like what I want, but I haven't quite got it to work yet. |
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| 15:46.51 | Nomenclatura | just install windows |
| 15:47.13 | Nomenclatura | lol no |
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| 15:51.02 | efm | the fix Fuchs suggested doesn't seem to work |
| 15:51.38 | efm | I've edited the kscreenlockerrc to add "showMediaControls=false" |
| 15:52.23 | efm | both directly (by editing the file) and indirectly, with kwriteconfig5 --file kscreenlockerrc --group Greeter --group LnF --group General --key showMediaControls --type bool false |
| 15:52.28 | jankusanagi_ | I think the fix involves much more than that |
| 15:52.30 | efm | I have rebooted |
| 15:56.23 | efm | Ok, I have tested, and if I play audio with the lock screen on, the audio controls do not show up. |
| 15:56.28 | efm | So that's what I wanted. |
| 15:56.44 | efm | There is still no option in the Screen Locking config to disable the audio controls. |
| 15:56.53 | efm | Thank you! |
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| 15:59.26 | efm | jankusanagi_ Fuchs thank you both |
| 15:59.38 | Fuchs | very welcome, glad to hear it worked |
| 16:01.03 | jankusanagi_ | yw |
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| 19:07.12 | Ribs | Hello. Does anyone have experience compiling kmymoney? |
| 19:08.05 | asturm | Ribs: it regularly builds fine here yes |
| 19:08.36 | Ribs | I'm able to build it, but I'm struggling with some of the optional dependencies |
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| 19:08.53 | Ribs | and I'd like to include them if possible |
| 19:09.15 | asturm | does your distribution not package them dependencies? |
| 19:09.30 | Ribs | probably. but I want to compile from source |
| 19:09.35 | Ribs | as I'm packing it myself |
| 19:09.52 | Ribs | packaging, not packing, sorry |
| 19:10.22 | asturm | and you're building locally or creating packages for your distro that then install to system? |
| 19:10.40 | Ribs | I'm building a flatpak, specifically |
| 19:10.57 | Ribs | it's working great, but I know that it's missing features that others would want |
| 19:11.23 | asturm | I'm useless with flatpak though |
| 19:11.28 | Ribs | me too :) |
| 19:11.35 | Ribs | this is literally my first flatpak |
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| 19:12.35 | Ribs | You basically give it source files and flatpak does the compiling for you |
| 19:12.48 | Ribs | I'm hoping to get it uploaded to flathub or similar, eventually |
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| 19:55.54 | Ribs | Got it! |
| 19:56.12 | Ribs | unusually Gentoo had the answer, as they already fixed the bug |
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| 20:13.17 | asturm | Ribs: which one? |
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| 20:28.23 | Ribs | asturm, line 32 of this link: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/net-libs/aqbanking/aqbanking-5.7.8.ebuild |
| 20:28.38 | Ribs | turns out the failure was caused by compiling with more than one core at a time |
| 20:28.43 | Ribs | so dropping it down to just one fixes it |
| 20:29.09 | Ribs | I figured out how to do that with flatpak and it compiled, although it was a slower than normal obviously. |
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| 21:33.04 | Azimoth | Hi, I'm trying to figure out why KDE browser integration is not working with my Firefox 66.0.3. I have installed the package as well as the browser extention but fail to narrow down where things go wrong... |
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| 21:33.27 | Azimoth | Any ideas/suggestions? |
| 21:33.32 | jankusanagi_ | the question was actually better worded before, Plasma Browser Integration |
| 21:33.33 | jankusanagi_ | xD |
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| 21:33.52 | Azimoth | jankusanagi_: I wanted to include a little more information :D |
| 21:34.33 | Azimoth | ok, for my PLASMA Browser Integration^^ |
| 21:35.06 | jankusanagi_ | but in your question in #plasma you said "Plasma Browser Integration", which already was the correct name xD |
| 21:35.59 | Azimoth | Hi, anyone available to help me figuring out why my firefox browser integration doesn't work? ;P |
| 21:37.54 | Azimoth | jankusanagi_: so you were rather advising me to repeat my question here, than having an idea what might cause my problem? |
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| 21:38.36 | jankusanagi_ | yes, sorry for not being clear about that |
| 21:38.42 | jankusanagi_ | I've never even tried PBI xD |
| 21:38.48 | jankusanagi_ | it's really not something I'm interested in |
| 21:39.02 | jankusanagi_ | I'm happy having the browser being _very_ separate from my Plasma Desktop :D |
| 21:39.20 | Azimoth | np, I just feel like I'm missing something obvious... from the right point of view... |
| 21:39.43 | jankusanagi_ | I only know you need two pieces, the "Plasma part" and the browser extension for whatever browser you use |
| 21:39.50 | jankusanagi_ | beyond that... |
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| 21:40.23 | Azimoth | I only know that these two can be insufficient in some cases... qed^^ |
| 21:40.25 | jankusanagi_ | maybe you need to enable a plasmoid for it in the system tray, or add a plasmoid for it in a panel |
| 21:40.51 | Azimoth | jankusanagi_: before the reinstall it showed up automatically (that's how I learned about it^^) |
| 21:42.27 | jankusanagi_ | you said you used Gentoo, right? did you ask in their channel/s? |
| 21:42.55 | jankusanagi_ | maybe it's one of those "USE flags"? 𤷠|
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| 21:44.31 | Azimoth | jankusanagi_: yes, this is one of my suspicions, but so far there was noone there to answer this question... kernel questions are usually answered the quickest ;) |
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| 21:52.03 | yann-kaelig | Hi. I'm testing kate with html markup but I can not find on kate how to get lines like in this picture on notepadd++ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/assets/images/notepad4ever.gif |
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| 22:28.55 | yann-kaelig | look liek there is a bug because Scrollbar Minimap for exampel doesn't work for me |
| 22:29.00 | yann-kaelig | on kate |
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| 22:29.41 | yann-kaelig | all adveanced editor features doesn't work |
| 22:30.41 | JanKusanagi | what's that screenshot supposed to show? |
| 22:31.25 | yann-kaelig | it's a picture to show what I'm looking for, These lines on the left , do not know the exact naming for this on kate |
| 22:31.45 | JanKusanagi | ah, that's code folding |
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| 22:32.29 | yann-kaelig | ok, so on kate it's suppose to be sshortvut as F9, but I get nothing just an empty column |
| 22:32.34 | yann-kaelig | shortcut |
| 22:33.20 | yann-kaelig | same minimap doesn't work, but the option is enable |
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| 22:34.52 | JanKusanagi | well, both code folding and minimap work here... |
| 22:35.00 | yann-kaelig | strange |
| 22:35.42 | yann-kaelig | version installed her 19.04.0 |
| 22:35.45 | yann-kaelig | here |
| 22:36.00 | JanKusanagi | same here |
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| 22:51.46 | yann-kaelig | really weird. When I start kat efrom the command line I get kf5.kio.core: "Could not enter folder tags:/." do not know if that could be the problem |
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| 22:52.19 | JanKusanagi | it's not, I get that from some programs |
| 22:52.44 | JanKusanagi | that's probably just because I have Baloo disabled |
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| 23:15.47 | aditsu | hi, after a recent kde update, my dolphin windows don't have preview panels anymore, what could be the reason? |
| 23:16.04 | aditsu | Gentoo / dolphin-18.12.3 |
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| 23:20.50 | aditsu | ah, apparently I need semantic-desktop |
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| 23:36.48 | JanKusanagi | that sounds like more of a Gentoo packaging question :D |
| 23:37.01 | yann-kaelig | well, evidently folding doesn't work for html language |
| 23:37.08 | JanKusanagi | it works here |
| 23:37.24 | JanKusanagi | at the very least for <div> and <table> blocks |
| 23:37.29 | yann-kaelig | I found folding working for C, XML but not on html |
| 23:37.40 | yann-kaelig | 2s |
| 23:38.46 | yann-kaelig | that right that work with div |
| 23:39.49 | yann-kaelig | but I don't like how folding works on kate. notepad++ folding view is really better with line draw |
| 23:40.19 | yann-kaelig | can't believe that kate has nothing like that |
| 23:45.06 | JanKusanagi | the block is highlighted, I really don't see the problem |
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| 23:53.27 | yann-kaelig | the problem comes from the fact that the learning is easier for the beginner with an instantaneous visualization wiht lines draw. |
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| 23:54.51 | JanKusanagi | well, I suggest you take your feedback politely to the developers |
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| 23:56.52 | yann-kaelig | I am afraid that I will get the same answer than yours without understanding the pedagogical aspect |
| 23:57.55 | JanKusanagi | so this is an exercise in futility... |
| 23:58.01 | yann-kaelig | yes :) |
| 23:58.08 | JanKusanagi | thanks for wasting my time |
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