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| 02:10.50 | PavelB | What's something I could for SUDO_ASKPASS to get a GUI password prompt? |
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| 02:58.24 | shadow98 | is there anyway to move my kde settings to another computer I am settting up. So I don't have to remember what I did to get everything I have setup? |
| 03:03.00 | JanKusanagi | you can copy Plasma's settings from ~/.config and ~/.local |
| 03:03.10 | JanKusanagi | and also for most other programs |
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| 10:33.08 | q9 | Hi, should it be possible to start a plasma-session (on wayland or X) without having a monitor connected or do I have to have at least Xvfb running? I want to use it mainly to run mpd an use the Monitor only from time to time. |
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| 12:27.40 | BluesKaj | Hi Folks |
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| 13:48.27 | Nomad_ | Anyone know a way to ducplicate KDE/Plasma widgets and desktop settings between activities? |
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| 13:51.14 | BluesKaj | Nomad_, use quicklaunch in the panel and add your fav apps to it |
| 13:52.09 | BluesKaj | no need for desktop icons |
| 13:52.43 | Nomad_ | I'm more thinking of things like wallpapers, widgets, etc |
| 13:52.49 | Nomad_ | I generally don't use desktop widgets |
| 13:54.26 | BluesKaj | Nomad_, then add the wallpapers to each activity with configure desktop in the context menu |
| 13:55.20 | BluesKaj | or each wallpaper rather |
| 13:55.29 | Nomad_ | BluesKaj: that's what I'm doing, doesn't get the widgets though. I've got 4-5 ( system performance ) I like to watch and manually configuring and placing them is annoying |
| 13:58.31 | BluesKaj | Nomad_, add widgets on each activity using the 3 stacked dashes in upper right or left corner depending onm your OS |
| 13:59.34 | BluesKaj | using an activity pager? |
| 13:59.39 | Nomad_ | BluesKaj: yep, I can do that manually, thats why I'm asking if the desktop can be cloned |
| 14:01.00 | BluesKaj | dunno, never thought of doing that |
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| 16:13.07 | ngraham | in what way? |
| 16:14.18 | ngraham | that's gonna be a bug in LibreOffice itself, not anything KDE-related |
| 16:14.23 | ngraham | please report it to them |
| 16:15.26 | ngraham | no |
| 16:15.49 | ngraham | LibreOffice uses its own custom user interface code |
| 16:16.58 | ngraham | you're welcome! |
| 16:17.34 | asturm | invisible user again? :p |
| 16:18.20 | BluesKaj | :-) |
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| 16:22.47 | ngraham | uploaded an image: Screenshot_20190224_092240.png (86KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/flTwJqACwBPRXTHYWgJNpRHQ > |
| 16:23.25 | asturm | how common is it to run plasmashell with PLASMA_USE_QT_SCALING, yet? |
| 16:24.41 | ngraham | David Edmundson will eat you if you do it :) |
| 16:24.47 | ngraham | I know a bunch of people do with no ill effects though |
| 16:24.50 | asturm | heh ;) |
| 16:24.58 | ngraham | probably best to and file bugs when you see them, so it can be made better |
| 16:25.18 | ngraham | Make sure you specifically mention that you're using `PLASMA_USE_QT_SCALING=1` for the purpose of ferreting out bugs in it, though |
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| 16:25.38 | asturm | I'm wondering if that'll fix libreoffice on hidpi |
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| 16:52.01 | xyquadrat[m] | kd7gs3: I think these are the main ones |
| 16:52.14 | xyquadrat[m] | Dell has the XPS developer edition |
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| 17:12.48 | thiago | the developer edition these days is the same HW, just without the windows tax |
| 17:13.15 | thiago | speaking from experience, the ubuntu that comes with it is no more optimised or guaranteed to work with anything than any other distro |
| 17:13.38 | thiago | and that's also for a developer edition laptop whose HW *was* different from the Windows version |
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| 17:39.07 | jason0597 | i'm using okteta for hex editing and i was wondering, is there a way to make the size selection print in hex instead of decimal? https://i.imgur.com/896ES2H.png |
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| 17:45.41 | Ryvius | #kde-neon is not responding so I'll try here too... I have trouble updating, pkcon update complains that kwin-common depends on kwin-data 4:5.15.0 but 4:5.15.1 will be installed. What do? |
| 17:48.20 | JanKusanagi | I'd say, wait, and try updating in a few hours |
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| 17:53.03 | Ryvius | Alright thanks, bye |
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| 19:14.43 | domson | Hi everyone! Does anyone know how the ksmserver obtains the session configs from the various applications? |
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| 19:37.21 | JakeSays | so does anyone know how to enable X tcp connections? |
| 19:43.08 | xyquadrat[m] | JakeSays: This should be DE-agnostic, right? |
| 19:43.29 | JakeSays | xyquadrat[m]: you would think, but apparently it's not. |
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| 19:46.23 | xyquadrat[m] | JakeSays: According to this german blog (https://linux-blog.anracom.com/tag/x11-tcp-6000/) you'd need to edit the /etc/sddm.conf file |
| 19:46.56 | xyquadrat[m] | And add `ServerArguments=-listen tcp` |
| 19:47.08 | JakeSays | xyquadrat[m]: i did that. didn't work. |
| 19:47.44 | JakeSays | xyquadrat[m]: i'll try it again tho. maybe i made a typo or something. |
| 19:49.15 | xyquadrat[m] | If that doesn't work I don't know any further |
| 19:49.22 | xyquadrat[m] | Not an expert on the topic |
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| 20:02.37 | JakeSays | xyquadrat[m]: i had it slightly different, but after changing it to match the post it still doesnt work. |
| 20:02.58 | xyquadrat[m] | Hmm, sorry I don't know why that doesn't work |
| 20:03.04 | xyquadrat[m] | Maybe file a bug against SDDM |
| 20:03.33 | JakeSays | i keep finding hints that it's hardcoded to not support tcp connections. |
| 20:03.38 | JakeSays | which.. boggles the mind |
| 20:04.05 | JanKusanagi | JakeSays: so if you look at the parameters used to launch your running Xorg process |
| 20:04.10 | JanKusanagi | is the "-listen tcp" there? |
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| 20:04.18 | JakeSays | "-nolisten tcp" is there |
| 20:04.25 | JanKusanagi | I have that one as well |
| 20:04.36 | JanKusanagi | (but I've never messed with it one way or another) |
| 20:04.50 | JanKusanagi | maybe that one is applied after yours, reverting it |
| 20:04.55 | xyquadrat[m] | Yeah, "-nolisten tcp" is the default |
| 20:04.56 | JanKusanagi | or maybe yours is never really applied |
| 20:05.12 | xyquadrat[m] | But generally it should be possible to modify it, it's even in the SDDM man page |
| 20:05.29 | JakeSays | wait.. lol i have sddm.conf in the wrong place. |
| 20:05.35 | JanKusanagi | maybe you could test that by adding different parameters for Xorg in your "ServerArguments" line |
| 20:05.41 | JanKusanagi | ok, that explains things xD |
| 20:05.52 | JakeSays | i had it under /etc/sddm |
| 20:05.56 | JakeSays | instead of /etc |
| 20:06.21 | JakeSays | no clue why it's in etc. |
| 20:06.22 | JakeSays | silly |
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| 20:10.41 | xyquadrat[m] | Hm, that could be distro dependent |
| 20:15.58 | JakeSays | well that still didn't do it |
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| 20:19.59 | stoned | Hello I am on kde kubuntu 18.04 |
| 20:20.25 | stoned | I have turned off every single notifications setting in kde but kmail still gives me notifications and some text to speech is reading it out loud every few minutes |
| 20:20.28 | stoned | it's very annoying. |
| 20:20.34 | stoned | I can't figure out how to turn this off for 3 days now |
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| 20:21.13 | stoned | Why is KDE doing text to speech on kmail notifications? How to turn it off? |
| 20:21.50 | asturm | that is certainly no default setting, I don't even know where to switch that on |
| 20:22.37 | stoned | I have turned off every single audio notification |
| 20:23.28 | stoned | Still, it wants to read outloud new mail notifications and who it is from and the subject line |
| 20:23.31 | stoned | it's bloody annoying |
| 20:23.48 | stoned | I ahve looked through every single setting I could possibly go through |
| 20:23.56 | stoned | WHY IS THIS HAPPENING!? |
| 20:24.12 | stoned | all the accessibility options are also off |
| 20:24.19 | JanKusanagi | KMail has a setting for "new mail notification", IIRC |
| 20:24.24 | JanKusanagi | just turn that off |
| 20:24.26 | stoned | It's off! |
| 20:24.47 | JanKusanagi | do you have a screenshot of the setting you mean? |
| 20:25.24 | stoned | It's in kmail menu, configure notifications |
| 20:25.25 | stoned | everythign is off |
| 20:25.35 | stoned | there is no audio notification at all. I turned them all off manually one by one. |
| 20:25.37 | stoned | Still it wants to read. |
| 20:25.54 | stoned | The problem isn't he notification |
| 20:26.06 | stoned | the problem is that KDE is doing text to speech reading on the notification from kmail |
| 20:26.19 | stoned | I don't get audio bells or anything when the popup shows up |
| 20:26.21 | JanKusanagi | the setting I mean is not in a list of notifications, it's a different thing |
| 20:26.30 | stoned | Do you understand my issue? |
| 20:26.42 | stoned | It's not a notificiation issue per se, Its' that notification is being read by text to speech or something |
| 20:26.53 | JanKusanagi | so your issue is with Kmail notifications, or with all of Plasma's notifications? |
| 20:27.01 | asturm | maybe some accessibility daemon is running? |
| 20:27.13 | stoned | Please sir, I'm severely agigatged and dont make me repeat myself. |
| 20:27.31 | JanKusanagi | ok, then I'm done |
| 20:27.38 | stoned | Ok. |
| 20:27.38 | asturm | stoned: you're receiving free support, so don't get agitated |
| 20:27.45 | stoned | What do you want me to do |
| 20:27.51 | stoned | 3 days of fcucking tryign to solve this issue |
| 20:27.58 | stoned | I'm ah uman being who gets frustrated |
| 20:28.05 | ngraham | have some patience and manners :) |
| 20:28.08 | stoned | you can't support people who are frustrated with IT problems |
| 20:28.10 | stoned | GET OFF OF FREENODE |
| 20:28.14 | stoned | maybe suppor tisn't your cup of tea |
| 20:28.21 | stoned | mayve you're not patient enough. |
| 20:28.24 | asturm | neither capitals nor multiple exclamation marks are getting you anywhere |
| 20:28.27 | ngraham | is anyone here an admin? :) |
| 20:28.32 | stoned | you don't get special brownie points for supporting like a dick. |
| 20:28.37 | JanKusanagi | man, that nick is starting to make sense... |
| 20:28.40 | ngraham | time for the banhammer, methinks |
| 20:28.44 | stoned | Now attack the nick. |
| 20:28.48 | stoned | Go on. |
| 20:28.51 | stoned | Show us you true colors |
| 20:28.55 | JanKusanagi | it's 4:20 somewhere... |
| 20:28.57 | stoned | show us how your mother raised you. |
| 20:29.01 | stoned | Go on boy. |
| 20:29.08 | JakeSays | grabs the popcorn |
| 20:29.13 | stoned | Try to get one over on some frustrated guy on irc |
| 20:29.22 | stoned | say mroe things like popcorna nd cause more psychological harm |
| 20:29.28 | stoned | your parents raised a real fine human, huh? |
| 20:29.29 | stoned | :) |
| 20:29.32 | stoned | douchebag |
| 20:29.39 | JakeSays | adds a cold diet coke |
| 20:29.42 | stoned | Eventually, I'll figure out my problem. |
| 20:29.52 | stoned | Trolls like you can go fuck yourselves and your whore mothers. |
| 20:29.57 | stoned | you stupid mother fucker |
| 20:30.12 | JakeSays | someone should wash your mouth out with soap, little boy |
| 20:30.15 | stoned | what's the worste that happens, I get banned from here? |
| 20:30.18 | stoned | I give zero fuxks |
| 20:30.21 | stoned | go on egg me on |
| 20:30.23 | stoned | say more shit |
| 20:30.30 | stoned | continue trolilng me and making me mad |
| 20:30.34 | stoned | keep destorying the channel peace |
| 20:30.36 | stoned | you douchebag. |
| 20:30.56 | JakeSays | no need to say anything. you're doing fine on your own. |
| 20:31.01 | stoned | as are you. |
| 20:31.05 | stoned | one cannot clap with one hand. |
| 20:31.09 | stoned | :) |
| 20:31.22 | stoned | Either you can grow up and stop being a troll or... you can keep it up. |
| 20:31.32 | JakeSays | i haven't witnessed a tantrum like this in some time. |
| 20:31.49 | stoned | I haven't witnessed such shitty human beings in some time. |
| 20:31.59 | stoned | I haven't witnessed humans whose parents truly didn't give a shit about them. |
| 20:32.01 | asturm | JakeSays: you haven't kept up with Trump news then |
| 20:32.05 | stoned | It's been a while. |
| 20:32.13 | JakeSays | asturm: yes, indeed i haven't |
| 20:32.20 | stoned | I'm gonna let him keep trolling. |
| 20:32.21 | asturm | JakeSays: those are more fun |
| 20:32.34 | JakeSays | asturm: those are depressing. |
| 20:32.48 | asturm | JakeSays: aw but then I don't have to live over there ;) |
| 20:32.52 | JakeSays | they would be fun if he weren't "leading" the country. |
| 20:33.19 | stoned | I'll come back later when the trolling cunts are not around |
| 20:33.22 | stoned | or I'll get banned |
| 20:33.28 | stoned | either way, I give zero sh its |
| 20:33.37 | stoned | worse come to worst, I'll remove this piece of shit software called kamil |
| 20:33.40 | stoned | and be done with it. |
| 20:33.45 | *** mode/#kde [+o tosky] by ChanServ |
| 20:33.46 | stoned | That's the problem with stupid foss devs |
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| 20:33.50 | stoned | can't make a softwware worth a fuck. |
| 20:33.52 | stoned | morons. |
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| 20:33.59 | JakeSays | LOL |
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| 20:34.06 | JakeSays | yay! |
| 20:34.08 | asturm | hrhr |
| 20:34.08 | tosky | I think it was enough. |
| 20:34.12 | JakeSays | some people's kids |
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| 20:34.42 | JakeSays | ok so i need to do an strace on starting xorg to see who is setting -nolisten |
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| 20:35.25 | tosky | JakeSays: uh, is it a Debian-based system? I may remember something about this |
| 20:36.00 | JakeSays | tosky: kubuntu |
| 20:36.02 | JakeSays | so yeah |
| 20:36.04 | tosky | or maybe someone already asked about this, and there was not an easy answer |
| 20:36.19 | JakeSays | tosky: i've been trying for two days to get rid of -nolisten |
| 20:36.23 | JakeSays | nothing works |
| 20:36.33 | JakeSays | i even grep'd root for nolisten. lol |
| 20:36.45 | JakeSays | had -noluck |
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| 20:37.24 | JakeSays | the only thing i've found is to ditch sddm and go with lightdm |
| 20:37.35 | JakeSays | but i've had enough trouble getting kde to work |
| 20:37.54 | tosky | the login manager and the desktop are unrelated |
| 20:38.03 | tosky | but on the other hand lightdm is basically gone |
| 20:39.09 | JakeSays | tosky: well, that's what i thought too, but everything seems to point to sddm being the culprit. |
| 20:39.35 | JakeSays | which makes sense since it start's x |
| 20:42.14 | JanKusanagi | thanks tosky xD |
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| 20:45.27 | JakeSays | tosky: any ideas? |
| 20:45.42 | JanKusanagi | my /etc/sddm.conf.rpmnew has this: |
| 20:45.48 | JanKusanagi | #ServerArguments= |
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| 20:45.49 | JanKusanagi | # Arguments to be passed to the X server. Default value is "-nolisten tcp". |
| 20:45.57 | JakeSays | yeah |
| 20:46.01 | JanKusanagi | under a [X11] section |
| 20:46.04 | JakeSays | i changed mine to -listen tcp |
| 20:46.36 | JakeSays | i've tried it under [X11] and [XDisplay] |
| 20:46.54 | JakeSays | i'm half tempted to build a custom sddm |
| 20:47.28 | JanKusanagi | with quotes, I guess... xD |
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| 20:48.50 | tosky | JakeSays: oh, this me be relevant: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=875721 |
| 20:50.08 | JakeSays | tosky: oh interesting |
| 20:51.00 | JakeSays | personally i don't think its a bug. i think it's someone trying to play security god. |
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| 20:59.19 | JanKusanagi | the problem seems to be that the "-listen tcp" parameter is not applied in the end, not that the auth doesn't work, if I understood this correctly |
| 20:59.53 | JanKusanagi | that is, in the process list, X (or Xorg, or whatever the process name is there) has "-nolisten tcp" and doesn't have "-listen tcp" |
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| 23:36.11 | inahd | so i'm thinking to install a kde instance again... was hoping to get some clarity on things |
| 23:36.37 | asturm | inahd: you mean Plasma? |
| 23:36.44 | inahd | i suppose |
| 23:37.31 | inahd | whats the differenc |
| 23:37.38 | asturm | inahd: KDE is a community |
| 23:37.44 | asturm | Plasma is a desktop |
| 23:37.58 | inahd | ,hmmm |
| 23:38.13 | inahd | and what's with neon? |
| 23:38.54 | asturm | that's a Repo-installable-like-a-distro on top of Ubuntu |
| 23:39.30 | inahd | interesting! |
| 23:40.18 | JanKusanagi | Plasma rocks =) |
| 23:40.38 | inahd | it's weird for me... i like plasma as an environment, but some of the ksoftware is kind of not my bag |
| 23:41.11 | asturm | well you can always use whatever applications you like |
| 23:41.41 | asturm | and plenty of people use KDE applications without running Plasma |
| 23:42.12 | inahd | i haven't seemed to find a sweet spot with that |
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| 23:43.02 | inahd | been using xfce for the most part, for a while now |
| 23:44.40 | inahd | i actually installed manjaro gnome, which is proving very difficult on the gnome side |
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| 23:58.25 | inahd | i really wish it was easier (safer) to install multiple DE's |
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| 23:59.07 | inahd | i have this dream of DE's being like snapshots that can be loaded more cleanly somehow |
| 23:59.17 | inahd | if that makes sense |
| 23:59.19 | asturm | I'm not sure what's the problem |
| 23:59.59 | inahd | i always seem to break things |
