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00:21.13*** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.13 and KDE Applications 18.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config
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02:30.17madLyfengraham: that was off of a fresh reboot basically because my shit started crashing all around me.
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07:02.13outviHello. I experienced an abnormal behaviour while using Up/Down arrow key to slide in the app list in the KDE launcher. I'm a ubuntu user and reproduced it successfully on another computer with OpenSUSE.
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13:42.11sirriffsalothpHey! I'm trying to get the look and feel of my KDE going, but whenever I try to make the desktop icons colour a certain colour, it dictates as if I'm making "All Icons" choices.. Any ideas?
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13:46.59jankusanagi_what version of Plasma? I think those options have been removed by now
13:47.22sirriffsalothpjankusanagi_: how do I check this?
13:47.30jankusanagi_launch kinfocenter
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13:48.49sirriffsalothpjankusanagi_: where do I see the info on Plasma?
13:49.03jankusanagi_again, launch kinfocenter xD
13:49.07sirriffsalothpI did..
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13:49.22jankusanagi_well, first thing you see, should be version information
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13:49.31jankusanagi_Plasma version, Frameworks version...
13:49.36sirriffsalothpjankusanagi_: OS Version? Or KDE SC Version?
13:49.45jankusanagi_oh wow, wait
13:49.53jankusanagi_do you see "KDE SC" anywhere?
13:49.54sirriffsalothpMight be worth noting that this is a 14.04, KXStudio distro :)
13:49.57sirriffsalothpYes
13:49.57jankusanagi_are you on Plasma 4??
13:49.59jankusanagi_wow, ok
13:50.04sirriffsalothpKDE SC Version 4.13.3
13:50.04jankusanagi_VERY worth noting xDDD
13:50.09sirriffsalothpHaha, sorry :)
13:50.25sirriffsalothpSo, no plasma in other words I'm guessing
13:50.37jankusanagi_yes, Plasma 4
13:50.40toskyit's Plasma still ,but the old one (4.11.something)
13:50.45jankusanagi_just the previous generation
13:50.53jankusanagi_then no idea, but I'm not sure those "coloring icons" options worked back then
13:51.12jankusanagi_maybe they only applied to folderviews
13:51.24jankusanagi_anyway, it's not like I run that to check, sorry :p
13:52.44jankusanagi_you might want to just try a different iconset instead
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13:53.22sirriffsalothpIt worked before I swear.. just this morning, bah
13:53.36sirriffsalothpI'll reboot at some point and try, I'm so into these icons that I don't wanna switch them, hehe
13:53.38jankusanagi_oh...
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13:59.43sirriffsalothpjankusanagi_: would there be any point in updating plasma? :P
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14:01.52xyquadrat[m]Well, using software that is more than 4 years old is guaranteed to create problems eventually...
14:02.36jankusanagi_I can't imagine updating just Plasma on such an old system
14:02.44xyquadrat[m]sirriffsalothp (IRC): If you do have some spare time at some point, I would really recommend updating (unless you rely on one of the very few features from KDE Plasma 4 that are not in Plasma 5)
14:02.56xyquadrat[m]Sure, you'd need to update the whole system
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14:05.01sirriffsalothpI just tried to do a do-release-upgrade the other day, on a fresh install of 14.04, what a mess that was. I'll just hang tight and wait for KXStudio to release an updated version, he's working on it as we speak I think
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14:08.58toskysirriffsalothp: and remember that Ubuntu 14.04 is going out of support (from the Ubuntu point of view) in few months
14:09.42toskysirriffsalothp: my suggestion would be: collect whatever things are provided by KXStudio that you need and use (probably mainly few applications) and see which modern distribution provides them
14:10.53xyquadrat[m]You can actually add the KXStudio repositories to any modern Ubuntu
14:11.43sirriffsalothptosky: kxstudio is perfectly tailored as far as my studio-production needs are concerned, the aesthetics here are a second priority, hehe :)  True, xyquadrat[m], but that's just a load of extra fancy stuff I don't need (besides icons colouring at this point of course)
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14:12.31toskyyou can change the theme (I don't use breeze)
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15:18.24nauticalnexusIs there anyway to show mounted drives on the desktop like in macOS? Version of plasmashell is 5.13.4
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15:36.49ServiceRobotgood morning peeps
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15:36.58ScottPilgrimnauticalnexus: I don't think the Plasma shell is able to do that.
15:37.30ScottPilgrimgood morning
15:37.36ServiceRobotdoes anyone here theme their kde install?
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15:38.39ScottPilgrimI have a little bit, with custom KDM greeter and everything, but not recently
15:39.00ServiceRobotdo you understand how the kde panel works, specifically the system tray?
15:39.33ScottPilgrimI know that it is just a plasmoid embedded in a panel
15:40.10ServiceRobotwell certain applications don't display the correct system tray icons for the theme I use
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15:40.31ServiceRobotif it helps, the apps that don't display the icons correctly are gtk apps
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15:42.02ScottPilgrimah, I suppose they are probably picking their icons based on gtk settings, or those particular applications don't have a suitable graphic for that theme
15:42.23ServiceRobotexcept they do. they display correctly on xfce4-panel (I'm an xfce migrant)
15:42.39ServiceRobotI also set the theme in the GNOME Application Style settings
15:43.18ServiceRobottheme is Numix Circle, fallback theme is Numix
15:45.53toskyand does it work with themes?
15:46.33ServiceRobotwhat specifically?
15:47.05toskyanyone else :)
15:47.21ServiceRobot?
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15:47.53ScottPilgrimHave you tried testing anything out outside of KDE, using something like Stalonetray?
15:47.55toskyif it works with icon themes different from Numix*, it may be an issue with the Numix theme, otherwise it may be an issue elsewhere
15:48.08ScottPilgrimoh right, you said it works in XFCE
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15:48.30egyptian_hi - how do i get kde to tile?
15:48.33ServiceRobotit works fine with the theme itself. the icons display fine in the menus
15:48.45ServiceRobotit's the system tray where the problem lies
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15:49.52toskyServiceRobot: that does not automatically rule out an issue with the theme
15:50.07toskyI would double check just to be sure
15:50.16ServiceRobotyou think the theme itself is the problem?
15:50.27toskyI said that it *may*
15:50.30ServiceRobothow would I check?
15:50.38toskychange the icon theme for gtk applications
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15:50.46ServiceRobotto what?
15:50.52toskyanything else?
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15:51.00toskytry everything that you have installed
15:51.13toskyand restart the Plasma session after each change, just in case
15:51.33toskydid you change also the main icon theme, or just the icon theme for Gnome/Gtk+ applications?
15:51.41ServiceRobotalright, I'll need another theme. I'll be back in a minute or two
15:51.52ServiceRobotthe main icon theme for kde and gtk are set to numix circe
15:51.54ServiceRobot*circle
15:52.24toskyI would try to change both, at least to Breeze and breeze for gtk
15:52.36toskywhich is the default theme
15:52.51ServiceRobotI don't think breeze would effect the icons of gtk apps? they're all default
15:52.51toskyegyptian_: that's about KWin, which does not support it natively; there are few kwin scripts that you can get from kwin settings
15:53.00ServiceRobotya, if it's the default theme the icons would be default
15:53.09ServiceRobotthey already show as default on the system tray
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15:54.08toskyServiceRobot: so the problem is that the icons shown are the default ones from the application, not the version included in the theme?
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15:54.27ServiceRobotno
15:54.35ServiceRobotthey don't show the theme at all in the system tray
15:54.39ServiceRobotjust their appstream icon
15:54.54toskyisn't it what I wrote?
15:55.09ServiceRobotoh
15:55.11ServiceRobotsorry, misread
15:55.16toskynp :)
15:55.18toskyjust to be sure
15:55.32toskyso the numix theme includes an app icon for them, but it's not picked up
15:55.45ServiceRoboton kde it isn't. which is strange
15:55.52toskyPlasma, but yeah
15:55.55ServiceRobotit is picked up in the menus, search, etc
15:56.04ServiceRobotonly place it isn't is the system tray
15:56.29toskyI'd try to switch icon theme anyway with another theme that provides the icon for those gtk applications, but I'm not sure about the coverage of breeze
15:56.43toskyjust to be totally sure about the theme itself
15:56.54ServiceRobotwell I originally used breeze and the icons remained unaffected as well
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15:57.30toskyit could be a bug in plasma too, but then knowing that the replacement works with some icon theme but not with another, or that it does not work even with the default one, is an helpful information
15:57.32toskyoh
15:57.46toskybut maybe breeze did not cover those applications
15:57.52ServiceRobotthat's my assumption
15:57.58ServiceRobotI have not tried it with other themes
15:59.16toskyif you end up opening a bug report (after checking that it does not exist yet), remember to provide all the details about the affected components, including version numbers,
15:59.23toskyand which applications are affected
15:59.56ServiceRobotright, but something tells me it's a configuration problem. It may have to do with libappindicator
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16:00.07ServiceRobotfor instance, nextcloud-client actually does show the correct icon for the theme
16:00.14ServiceRobotbut nextcloud-client is a qt app
16:00.22ServiceRobotthe ones that don't display correctly are all gtk
16:00.55paul-riot is gtk right? because the tray icon doesn't display right in kde
16:01.19ServiceRobotriot.im client?
16:01.24paul-yea
16:01.29ServiceRobotnever used it
16:01.50ServiceRobotit's an electron app no?
16:02.00Fuchsit is, yes
16:02.13paul-yea it is, i would use another matrix client but none of the alternatives have full encryption support or video/audio calling
16:02.48ServiceRobotI'm stuck with discord since that's what everyone uses. I think the icon doesn't work with numix either but then again it also shows default icon in xfce
16:03.02ServiceRobotso that's unrelated
16:03.59paul-it would be cool if kde had a native matrix client
16:04.03ServiceRobotI have a feeling it has to do with libappindicator/xembed
16:04.20ServiceRobotbecause the gtk apps I use I think only support xembed icons
16:04.38ServiceRobotthough the panel has an integrated sni xembed proxy
16:04.46ServiceRobotso I don't know what the issue is
16:04.51paul-idk either
16:04.53AndrewCrouthamelpaul-: Konversation is working on it
16:04.56AndrewCrouthamelpaul-: There is also Quaternion
16:05.06Sho_nheko too
16:05.10AndrewCrouthamelalthough it is not KDE, just Qt
16:05.29paul-do they support encryption or audio calls?
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16:06.52AndrewCrouthamelDunno, haven't looked at Quaternion closely
16:07.20ServiceRobotbut I don't want to file a bug report until I know for a fact it's a known issue
16:07.27ServiceRobotgoogle turns up nothing
16:09.09paul-also i've tried searching, but QT4 based apps don't support display scaling, right?
16:09.25ServiceRobotI say purge anything that isn't qt5
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16:10.02AndrewCrouthamelCorrect, to my knowledge
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16:10.21paul-I'm working on migrating from Amarok, but I'm too used to it :P
16:12.55toskyAndrewCrouthamel: paul- if you look at the theme integration, "just Qt" is more than enough
16:13.22toskyin fact Frameworks is a set of libraries on top of Qt, and the theme integration system comes from Qt
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16:13.42toskyPlasma provides an own integration plugin; there is a default one for gtk+ environments in Qt
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16:25.09ngrahamQuaternion is very... baisic in its functionality
16:25.24ngrahamIt does not yet support video or audio calling
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16:41.55madLyfengraham: that file association bug doesnt happen on p5.13 for me.
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16:42.23ngrahamGood, it must be fixed there, then!
16:43.12madLyfedo you remember this bug i reported? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398816
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16:47.15ngraham'fraid there's not much I can do to help there. The code in question is too low-level for me, and I don't even use multiple monitors
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16:47.50RusFellerHello! I'm sorry, if this is not the right channel for my question, but I have a small problem: I use Kate 18.04.3 and when I open new tab/file, this tab/file appears from left, but in all other apps, from right.
16:48.42RusFellerI tried to find something about this in the configuration, but nothing. Can anyone tell me the direction?
16:48.45RusFellerThanks.
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16:49.39JanKusanagiI don't know the answer, but yes, good place to ask
16:50.25JanKusanagiyou mean that when you open a file or start a new empty one, the tab for it appears the first on the left, instead of the last on the right (or at least, right next to the current one)?
16:51.08RusFellerYeah, exactly. New tab appears first on the left.
16:51.24madLyfengraham: i have found a way around the issue i think, with limited testing, but its not a fix. when i log out or reboot normally see this: https://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=115196 the monitor options no matter what settings i choose for displays order or primary, it just always resets to that. well if i click  on that menu to 'unify monitors' nothing happens but if i go into the display settings and unify monitors, then
16:51.24madLyfe'deunify' them, i can set my monitors any way i like and it will persist across logouts and reboots.
16:52.17RusFellerAny behavior in which the new one will be on the right - will be perfect, but I just don't find, where I can configure it.
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17:23.28RusFellerWell, I'm not 100% sure, but for me problem in this line of code: https://github.com/KDE/kate/blob/master/addons/tabswitcher/tabswitcher.cpp#L145
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17:27.20ngrahamRusFeller: Please feel free to file a bug
17:27.40RusFellerngraham, I'm trying to fix it first on my machine
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17:28.07ngrahammadLyfe: Thanks for adding that extra info to the bug report!
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17:32.35madLyfei hope im not being a huge PITA with the bug report. its annoying. i know other ppl have it but to get them to come over and post in the bug report is also a PITA.
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17:36.41stratocaster7Mageia and Plasma 5.12.2 & 5.13.4 - When I set the screenlocker to show a slideshow the locker crashes after some hours or even a day or two.
17:37.24stratocaster7I don't see a bug report about this but does anyone here know anything of it - or should I look to my distro? I happens on all five of my machines.
17:38.02stratocaster7The only log thing I recognize is - kscreenlocker_greet[23187]: kf5.kpackage: No metadata file in the package, expected it at: "/usr/share/mga/screensaver/"
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17:42.17stratocaster7Oh, by "crashes" I mean that you can no longer unlock the screen. You can't even click in the password field and the button is unresponsive. Have to go to console and reboot.
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17:45.16toskystratocaster7: given that path in the error message, I would maybe ask to the Mageia packagers on whather the theme is correct
17:46.19stratocaster7tosky: Thanks. I've been talking with them but I'll ask about that specifically.
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17:58.28moosnatI've got a patch out for Firefox upstream that seems to make native Qt dialogs work, thanks to KDE's implementation of xdg-desktop-portal
17:59.36AndrewCrouthamelmoosnat: Is this different from SuSE's method?
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18:01.34Gamayunmoosnat: Oh wow! I will be so grateful if that goes through!
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18:03.10moosnatAndrewCrouthamel: I just learned about SuSE's patches, and they simply patch it to use KDE dialogs instead. My patch uses the FreeDesktop portals standard that opens dialogs out-of-process over D-Bus
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18:03.56rdietermoosnat: nice, hopefully they (upstream) will seriously consider it
18:05.14moosnatrdieter: It's required for sandboxed flatpak, so I think it has a reasonably good chance. Additionally, it's a pretty small patch with no new dependencies, since GTK 3.20 and later have an API for it
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18:15.22moosnatUnrelated: is there a bug related to XWayland scrolling in Plasma 5.13? On my KDE laptop, I'm experiencing some scrolling weirdness in Firefox
18:16.29AndrewCrouthamelmoosnat: Ah, nice. Hopefully that gets accepted since it's generic.
18:16.37moosnatI don't experience similar behaviour on my PC with Gnome.
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18:17.08moosnatAndrewCrouthamel: I agree, so fingers crossed!
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18:24.23AndrewCrouthamelBookmarking that. (https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D7033 for those interested)
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18:36.28moosnatAndrewCrouthamel: As you can see, it just uses GTK APIs to access the portal. A dev in #gtk+ on gnome IRC told me that all a user should need to do is set GTK_USE_PORTAL=1 to force it to use the portal.
18:37.05moosnat(environment variable GTK_USE_PORTAL)
18:37.27AndrewCrouthamelWhat's portal?
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18:38.01moosnatAndrewCrouthamel: https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/wiki/Portals
18:38.48moosnatIt's basically a D-Bus API designed for filtering system access from sandboxed applications
18:39.31moosnatThere exists a portal implementation for both GTK and KDE
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18:50.48ngrahamit'll allow the Flatpak version of Firefox to display a KDE file chooser instead of the GTK one
18:50.51ngraham(eventually)
18:51.34moosnatngraham: or with the GTK_USE_PORTAL env var set to 1. I plan on testing this when I get home this evening, where I have a laptop with KDE Plasma.
18:51.43ngrahamfirst this needs to be fixed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1466360
18:52.18ngrahamcould be an easy fix if you already have a Firefox dev environment set up
18:52.20ngrahamI'm sure they would accept a patch for that, too
18:53.06moosnatI actually did submit a patch for this: https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com//D7033
18:53.44ngrahamlol, today, even!
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18:53.49ngrahamfantastic
18:53.56ngrahamyou could mark it as fixing https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1466360
18:54.24ngrahamWhile you're at it, wanna do the same for Thunderbird?
18:54.25ngrahamhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1466327
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18:55.05moosnatI don't use Thunderbird (right now), but I can have a look.
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18:56.42ngraham👏
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18:59.48moosnatI use both Gnome and KDE Plasma daily. It'll be very nice to have Firefox feel native in both environments
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19:09.03lamefunCan I say a bad opinion please? About KDE, GNOME, Linux, everything...
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19:11.07lamefunWell, since noone answers... they're free as in beer yet proprietary as in freedom.
19:11.09ngrahamlamefun: that would be more on the side of lameness than fun
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19:12.29dodge-lintHi. I use manjaro with KDE and I'd like to have notifications when my diskspace is running low. how could I best achieve this? any good panel widgets or similar?
19:12.30lamefunngraham: yeah, no one likes this opinion wherever I state it, except just 1 forum...
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19:13.33ngrahamdodge-lint: I'm pretty sure it already does that. I know I've seen a low diskspace notification in my Neon, VM where I'm chronically low on space
19:13.42ngrahamyour definition of "low" may not be the same as its own, though
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19:14.51lamefunGNOME is working to change that though and become Free software with capital F, I'm curious if there is simlar work done in KDE.
19:15.34dodge-lintngraham: well. my root partition just went to 100% full without any notification.
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19:16.30nicofeelamefun: What makes KDE non-Free?
19:17.16dodge-lintngraham: do you know what generates the notifications on your neon install? maybe I just need to activate some service...
19:17.47lamefunnicofee: if there's something I need in a program, I usually can't just right-click the program, click edit, and add it...
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19:18.09lamefunnicofee: in GNOME, for some apps at least, you can fire up GNOME Builder, enter Git URL and start editing
19:18.13ngrahamdodge-lint: Yikes, that's no good. Maybe poke around in System Settings > Notifications
19:19.08lamefunFor system core it got worse though, I tried their new BuildStream, and it started compiling GCC from scratch, too long...
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19:19.51ngrahamlamefun: So you want the development workflow to be easier?
19:20.11dodge-lintngraham: indeed. there is an Event Source called "KDE Free Space Notifier Daemon".
19:20.28dodge-lintpopup message is enabled, but there was no warning for me.
19:20.41dodge-lintMaybe it won't work with LVM?
19:20.52lamefunAnd there's this new stupid fashion in GNOME, to compile *dynamic* code into binary -_-...
19:21.25toskydodge-lint: from systemsettings, Startup & Shutdown, Background Services, in the Startup services list
19:21.44ngrahamdodge-lint: Sounds like a bug. I wou;d encourage you to file it!
19:21.50toskydodge-lint: there should be a "Free Space Notifier"
19:21.56toskydodge-lint: is it enabled?
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19:22.24dodge-linttosky: Free Space Notifier running
19:22.31ngrahamlamefun: This is the #kde room; we're not affected by what GNOME is doing. But we would be interested in your opinion regarding what *we* should be doing
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19:23.16toskyI don't know that code, but: do you have more partitions? Did just one partition (home? System) fill up?
19:23.45ngrahamoh actually I know what this might be
19:23.57ngrahamyes, do you have a separate /home partition?
19:24.09dodge-linti have 3 partitions in one LVM-group. /, /home, and swap
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19:24.22ngrahamAha!
19:24.26ngrahamyes, this is a bug, let me go find it...
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19:25.51ngrahamhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340582
19:27.22nicofeelamefun: What does any of this has to do with software freedom?
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19:28.14dodge-lintngraham: oh wow. that report is 4 years old already. Thanks for digging it out
19:28.17ServiceRobothey y'all. sorry I couldn't get back sooner. system tray is still being stupid
19:28.38ngrahamdodge-lint: oh, it's only still a baby
19:28.50ngrahamsome bugs could apply for a driver's license at this point
19:29.11lamefunnicofee: I believe that the GNU free software definition contains a major framing error.
19:29.21ngrahamnot sure if any are old enough to drink alcohol in the USA though 😝
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19:30.35dodge-lint:-D yeah. I'm still waiting for konsole to get text-reflow. That request is even older.
19:30.47ngrahamlamefun: What does this have to do with KDE?
19:31.08ngrahamdodge-lint: yeah, you and me both...
19:31.18ngrahamhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196998
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19:31.35dodge-lintngraham: I see you marked a duplicate of the disk-space bug just today. that's why you knew it so well :-D
19:32.22dodge-lintany Idea what to do about disk-space notifications in the meantime?
19:32.56lamefunMy free software definition: a program is free software *to a person* if it is both *legally viable* (which GNU definition addresses) and *psychologically viable* (which it does not) for that person to study/modify/redistribute it.
19:34.00oprypinthe only software that will reliably classify as that  is software you wrote yourself
19:34.11lamefunI'm cursion what KDE has on this front; GNOME has explicitly acknowledged this problem at least partially
19:34.44lamefunoprypin: this is why in my world software freedom is not a boolean but an unquantifiable soft property.
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19:39.45ngrahamdodge-lint: actually I marked a dupe of it because I came across it while looking for the original that I knwe I remembered from somewhere...
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19:40.23ngrahamfor now, there's no workaround other than putting your home directory on your / partition. It's just a bug that needs to be fixed
19:40.40ServiceRobotalright, so I did a bit of testing with different icon themes. the icons in the system tray are correct with papirus-icon-theme. but with numix they are not
19:40.56ServiceRobotso it's a theme issue I think. but it doesn't make much sense
19:41.08ngrahamlamefun: I think what you are attempting to say is that it should be easier to hack on software, and we would agree with you on that
19:41.27ngrahamin fact, it's a big part of one of KDE's major goals. See https://phabricator.kde.org/T8484
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19:42.04nicofeeFwiw, you can do about the same thing you described for Gnome builder in KDevelop
19:43.19ngrahamnicofee: I keep getting this feeling that the day I start using KDevelop, I'm going to exclaim, "Oh my god, why didn't I do this a year ago!?"
19:43.48lamefunnicofee: Does it fetch dependencies for you?
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19:45.13nicofeeI'm not an expert on this. There are multiple ways to achieve this
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19:49.50AciD`hey guys, I read that in kwin 5.13 you now have a blur effect. I cannot find that in the effects settings. Do you need to install a particular package (under Debian) to get those?
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19:53.43Sho_There's been a Blur effect since 5.0
19:53.53Sho_(actually even in 4.x)
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19:57.31lamefunAlso... maybe luddites tell true after all?
19:59.23lamefunOn an Intel GPU... Compiz = smooth, KWin = smooth, GTK 3 and Qt Widgets = smooth, GTK 4 last I tried it = choppy, Qt Quick = choppy...
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20:01.01lamefunAny known remedy?
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20:17.55moosnatlamefun: I think you're talking about "practical software freedom"
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20:19.59moosnatand I agree that many of our communities don't do enough to make it feasible for people to contribute. I like hearing about Gnome's flatpak-based development workflow, since that's gonna make it way easier to contribute.
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20:21.27moosnatI'd like to point out some communities that are pushing for this, though: it's very easy to get a Firefox development environment working on most popular distributions, and the Rust community is fantastic for contribution.
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23:46.33SourceSlayerHello
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23:57.36kromsDoes KDE allow virtual desktops to switch on a specific monitor?  The other monitors would stay on the main desktop.
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