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00:08.41 | jacky | I haven't seen it work |
00:08.46 | jacky | I tried and it doesn't nothing for me |
00:11.05 | MortimerHoughton | Too bad |
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05:45.47 | mobile_c | how do i make a plugin for kate |
05:47.16 | AndrewCrouthamel | mobile_c: I found this https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Kate/KTextEditor_Plugins |
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05:48.10 | AndrewCrouthamel | mobile_c: https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Kate/KatePluginTutorial |
05:48.22 | AndrewCrouthamel | I didn't read them over, so I don't know what the differences are between the two. |
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05:51.55 | Jucato | without looking into them: Kate plugins would only work on the Kate app. KTextEditor plugins could work on other programs that use KTE (KDevelop, etc). |
05:52.06 | Jucato | mobile_c: there's also a #kate channel (i hope that's the right one) |
05:52.35 | Jucato | yep, #kate it is |
05:56.39 | mobile_c | are there any other autocompletion plugins besides the default autocomplete |
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08:14.40 | guacamolee | does someone here know how to get sddm to display on my primary display? Rn i have extended display set for laptop display and tv and sddm always shows on the tv |
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08:51.20 | Thaodan | set it in xorg.conf.d? |
08:51.29 | Thaodan | sddm doesn't use kscreen |
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09:04.33 | guacamolee | never done anything with xorg.conf :/ I don't quite get it |
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09:20.35 | yann-kaelig | hello |
09:20.59 | yann-kaelig | kmail import gpg key doesn't work during the wizard account creation |
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09:22.36 | yann-kaelig | kmail wizard manual smtp/imap configuration doesn't work |
09:23.00 | yann-kaelig | there is no such option during the wizard configuration |
09:23.12 | leszek | yann-kaelig: which version? |
09:23.34 | yann-kaelig | kmail 5.9.1 |
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09:27.55 | yann-kaelig | kmail configuration > Setup for Sending and Receiving Messages > Can't remove my identity |
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09:28.45 | yann-kaelig | or at least I would like to clean everything about the account \ I have created, there is no such option |
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09:35.03 | leszek | yann-kaelig: leave the identity there just configure smtp and imap stuff in the accounts |
09:35.04 | yann-kaelig | I have removed .config/kmail2rc .config/kmailsearchindexingrc .local/kmail2 but kmail wizard is still able to find my user name and the email adress. What should I remove to get the same state as the first wizard start ? |
09:35.44 | leszek | yann-kaelig: thats akonadi you need to remove the stuff via settings accounts |
09:36.43 | leszek | also I am not getting why you want to get the first wizard if it is not working for you |
09:36.52 | leszek | just configure the accounts stuff should be enough |
09:37.04 | leszek | also the first wizard is something you can call manually from the settings menu aswell I guess |
09:37.55 | leszek | Settings -> Add Account |
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09:55.14 | yann-kaelig | kmail doesn't use the account name I have provided but instead use IMAP Account 2 as my account name, why ? |
09:56.48 | yann-kaelig | so now I have two identities in the identities settings, myname and myname#1, why ? |
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10:03.37 | yann-kaelig | I don't understand I have the exact same configuration as thunderbird, on thunderbird everything work great from the beginning and bonus thunderbird was ablt ot find the right conf by himself, but on kmail that doesn't work even after a manual conf |
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10:04.40 | leszek | yann-kaelig: anything we can help you with? |
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10:06.30 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
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10:11.37 | yann-kaelig | how can I get logs from kmail, that could help to find where is the problem |
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10:17.12 | gryffus | I have heard that KDE Telepathy is not recommended anymore or something like that. What should i use instead? Any recomendations? Is some replacement in development? |
10:18.44 | asturm | gryffus: well, it works, but it is unmaintained |
10:18.53 | asturm | gryffus: kopete works, but is unmaintained as well |
10:19.43 | gryffus | asturm: eh... so does exist some alternative? Is pidgin maintained and does it have a Qt gui? What happened to IM clients? :O I just don't get it |
10:21.35 | asturm | gryffus: everyone uses their phone these days |
10:22.01 | asturm | gryffus: psi has a Qt gui |
10:22.49 | gryffus | asturm: ok i will try psi then, thank you :) |
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10:23.29 | gryffus | it feels like an overkill to install an Android VM just to use IM on my computer :x |
10:23.53 | asturm | gryffus: well, do you have a problem with the existing IMs available? |
10:24.31 | gryffus | asturm: yes, i am trying to find some that supports OMEMO + Carbons for Jabber and that supports ICQ and skype networks |
10:24.55 | gryffus | OMEMO is not supported in (k)telepathy and i don't know if kopete supports it |
10:25.55 | leszek | yann-kaelig: akonadiconsole can give you a lot of output for the mail accounts and what might be wrong |
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10:35.35 | yann-kaelig | ok thx :) |
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10:41.43 | gryffus | asturm: PSI is not multiprotocol, it cannot connect to the Skype and ICQ networks :( |
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10:42.51 | gryffus | I feel i will just let GTK to my system and use pidgin :( |
10:43.40 | Triffid_Hunter | woah, icq is still around? |
10:44.55 | gryffus | Triffid_Hunter: why wouldn't be? Same as Yahoo messenger, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, etc .... |
10:47.30 | gryffus | Triffid_Hunter: it even has a Linux client: https://icq.com/linux/ |
10:47.52 | gryffus | Triffid_Hunter: https://github.com/mailru/icqdesktop |
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10:51.15 | Triffid_Hunter | last time I used ICQ was in the 90s.. it filled up with russian spammers pretty quickly and everyone left |
10:52.11 | gryffus | Triffid_Hunter: yeah you need to block messages from people not in your contacts, but this is the same for most of the networks. Jabber for example. |
10:52.31 | gryffus | Triffid_Hunter: and this is true from the begining of IM |
10:52.41 | gryffus | s/from/since |
11:00.33 | BCMM | gryffus: as far as I know, nothing connects to the skype network |
11:00.58 | Triffid_Hunter | often not even skype.. :/ |
11:01.10 | gryffus | BCMM: yes it does: https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/tree/master/skypeweb |
11:01.34 | gryffus | BCMM: even KDE telepathy supports it |
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11:02.58 | gryffus | BCMM: it even supports file transfers |
11:03.50 | BCMM | gryffus: ah, i hadn't seen how advanced that had got. does it do voice and video? |
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11:05.32 | gryffus | BCMM: It should according to changelog, but i have never tried |
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11:09.49 | gryffus | BCMM: https://www.fossmint.com/skype4pidgin-is-a-plugin-that-enables-you-to-use-skype-with-pidgin/ |
11:10.14 | asturm | it's just running skype though, doesn't it? |
11:10.22 | asturm | it's not like this is an open protocol |
11:10.46 | gryffus | asturm: no, this is not the Skype API connector that we used to use before Microsoft acquired Skype |
11:11.10 | gryffus | asturm: you do not need to install skype itself for it to work... |
11:11.34 | BCMM | asturm: there used to be a plugin that did that, but i think they took away the api for that |
11:11.51 | BCMM | asturm: this one scrapes the skype web interface basically |
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11:11.59 | gryffus | asturm: yes |
11:12.04 | gryffus | guys, these are 3 years old news (at least) ... Is Facehook now standard even in Open Source world? :x :( this is so sad... |
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11:14.37 | asturm | gryffus: there is nothing opensource with facebook iirc |
11:15.06 | gryffus | asturm: exactly... |
11:15.20 | asturm | then I don't understand the comment |
11:15.44 | gryffus | asturm: that it is sad that even people into Open Source use these kind of networks |
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11:15.58 | asturm | they are people, they talk to other people |
11:16.33 | achillion | GNU/Humans |
11:16.39 | gryffus | asturm: well.... Many of my friends are pissed of at me because i refuse to talk to them via these networks and i still send SMS rather :D |
11:17.06 | achillion | Ah yes, SMS. Technology at its finest. |
11:17.16 | gryffus | And i some kind of expected that it would be common here |
11:18.03 | achillion | SMS is annoying though and for a lot of people it still costs money |
11:18.12 | achillion | and there's no support for groups |
11:18.23 | achillion | so what problem are you solving exactly? |
11:18.23 | gryffus | achillion: well, i even use OTR on SMS (for the one friend that i forced to use it also) :D |
11:19.04 | gryffus | achillion: i'm just discussing.... But at first i just wanted to know if there is some KDE IM in development |
11:19.40 | achillion | right |
11:19.42 | achillion | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
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11:20.36 | radice | gryffus: it happens to me too, it appears that wazzapp hide sms or something |
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11:28.09 | yann-kaelig | well, any idea why I can't move my Inbox messages to trash ? |
11:28.53 | yann-kaelig | the trash option is not available |
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11:57.48 | yann-kaelig | serously you should be ashamed to deliver a software like that. It's bug after bug and bugs |
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12:00.16 | gryffus | yann-kaelig: i do not have a problem with akonadi / kontact / kmail.... And i have a mailbox with filters and many subfolders and over 500 000 emails ... everything just works so i cannot help you sorry... but i don't think anyone should be ashamed for akonadi or any other open source software. After all they are doing it for free (mostly) |
12:01.04 | gryffus | yann-kaelig: maybe if you described your problem little more, maybe even with screenshots and be a little more patient, somebody will help you |
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12:05.06 | yann-kaelig | it's about kmail. Something is wrong with manual configuration. Then going to Setting > Setup for Sending and Receiving Messages kmail automatically recreates the folder with their subfolders inbox/sent/... and now the trash option is available. But now each time I want to move an inbox message to the trash all my messages disapear |
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12:05.39 | yann-kaelig | First I have removed the folder then Setting > |
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12:08.01 | gryffus | if you want to use custom folder for trash, you need to configure it in settings, either in identity settings or in account settings |
12:08.24 | gryffus | you should not remove an "active" folder - i can imagine it can break your akonadi DB |
12:08.37 | gryffus | but it is just a guess |
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12:09.42 | achillion | the recreation of folders sounds like it's just downloading the IMAP directory structure. IIRC, that can be disabled as well (haven't used KMail in a while) |
12:09.50 | softmetz | hi. is there a way in plasma to NOT show any notifications if i am on a particular activity? |
12:09.50 | achillion | are the folders disabled? |
12:11.05 | yann-kaelig | I have done this before, checkes the folder which is by default set to local folder. This is not working the trash is grey, not available. If I set the trash folder to my account it is the same the trash is not available. As I said, I have to remove the folder from the main kmail window, let kmail to recreates the folrder with subfolders to get the trash available |
12:11.20 | gryffus | achillion: no, trash and other similar folders are only local by default |
12:11.21 | yann-kaelig | checked the trash folder* |
12:11.49 | achillion | gryffus: oh those. Right. My bad. |
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12:24.19 | yann-kaelig | about gpg key. Wizard failed to import my gpg key, and in kmail settings > Setup for Sending and Receiving Messages > Modify > Cryptography > There is no option to import a key but only ( no key or generate a new pair ) So is it possible to import a key or not ? |
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12:30.13 | [Enrico] | yann-kaelig: try using kleopatra or kgpg to import your key in the gpg keychain |
12:31.36 | [Enrico] | yann-kaelig: should appear in kmail after that |
12:32.13 | yann-kaelig | I installed use kleopatra, my key is imported in kleopatra. Should I have to activate something else ? A deamon or something else |
12:33.05 | [Enrico] | yann-kaelig: check your key is properly trusted and that you have both private and public. Can you sign a file with kleopatra. Be aware I said signing not encrypting |
12:34.16 | yann-kaelig | yes, this is the first question kleopatra asked me after I imported the key, trust ultimate and both private and public key are here |
12:35.59 | yann-kaelig | Certif,sign as primary key and Encrypt as subkey |
12:38.16 | [Enrico] | yann-kaelig: so can you actually sign a file? Also did you self signed your own key? I think that's required |
12:38.49 | gryffus | Ok, back to running Miranda IM in Linux via Wine... Feel like back in the 90's :x |
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12:41.38 | yann-kaelig | [Enrico]: Yes Ican sign a file. I also start a kleoptra test, everything passed. Self signing my key ? Never been asked by that from kleopatra |
12:42.33 | [Enrico] | yann-kaelig: I never said it will ask for it :) |
12:43.25 | [Enrico] | yann-kaelig: IIRC you have to certify you own key |
12:43.51 | [Enrico] | yann-kaelig: double click on the key -> certifications |
12:44.54 | [Enrico] | and yeah this is confusing as hell |
12:45.21 | yann-kaelig | Ok , the answer by kleopatra is, the key wasalready certified by the same certificate |
12:45.40 | [Enrico] | yann-kaelig: oh and, obviously, the email address associated with the key must match the one you configured in kmail |
12:46.04 | yann-kaelig | ha! that not the case |
12:46.10 | [Enrico] | yann-kaelig: well you can |
12:46.46 | [Enrico] | email address must match, it's like x.509 certificates from websites. You cannot use a certificate for somewebsite.example.com to certify for anotherwebsite.example.com |
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12:47.49 | yann-kaelig | interesting, I learned something today. So i have to create a key for each email adress I own by myslef, that crazy ^^ |
12:48.34 | [Enrico] | yann-kaelig: no you don't. Just associate multiple email addresses to one key |
12:48.52 | [Enrico] | personally I do two keys. One for work, one for personal stuff |
12:49.37 | [Enrico] | yann-kaelig: just edit your key and add email addresses |
12:50.42 | yann-kaelig | [Enrico]: ok, I understand now what's for the add email address. |
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12:53.20 | yann-kaelig | [Enrico]: how am I supposed to add the new address. Should I leave a space between each address, or add a symbol like , between each address ? |
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12:54.35 | yann-kaelig | [Enrico]: for example myaddress@one.org, myaddress@two.org, myaddress@three.org OR myaddress@one.org myaddress@two.org myaddress@three.org ? |
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13:05.46 | yann-kaelig | I propose to improve kleopatra when it comes to adding a new email address to the own key . "Add email address" should offer a new field in which the user could add the email address. How to integrate this new address to the key will be the work of the software. |
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17:51.54 | physkets | Hi! |
17:52.11 | physkets | I have a small gripe with single clicks |
17:52.18 | physkets | opening stuff |
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17:53.07 | physkets | There was a .crt file that I accidentally clicked, |
17:53.15 | physkets | and it imported all the certs in it |
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17:53.50 | linuxica | Hi! |
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17:54.25 | physkets | Now I don't know what certs from amongst all my imported ones, came from this |
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20:19.23 | magyar | hi, I've migrated from kde 4 to kde5 and lost all my kwallet data, how can I recover the info? |
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20:29.11 | achillion | magyar: I know I'm not answering your question, but I've seen a few people say they've only upgraded recently and I wonder why people stuck with 4 for so long. |
20:29.25 | achillion | Distro upgrade? |
20:31.15 | magyar | achillion: yep, i think I fixed it by enabling migration in kwalletrc file |
20:32.45 | achillion | Well... I'm glad that was solved even though I did nothing to help :D |
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22:25.07 | D-rex | i just installed arch + kde on my laptop. everything loads fine but sddm doesnt show until I move the mouse via the touchpad can't figure out why |
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23:21.27 | Delvien | Touchpad settings are not persistant after sleeping |
23:22.02 | Delvien | anyone know a fix? |
23:23.39 | energizer | something seems wrong with the scaling https://i.imgur.com/Lky9rkS.png |
23:23.39 | AndrewCrouthamel | Oh hey I just ran into that and wasn't sure if it was just my Bluetooth mouse or what. Good to know |
23:23.45 | energizer | that menu is truncating |
23:24.49 | AndrewCrouthamel | I can probably set something up but it may take me a day or so |
23:29.39 | AndrewCrouthamel | nggraham: I flagged it in Phab |
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