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00:19.28*** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.13 and KDE Applications 18.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config
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04:58.02rydareis there a channel specifically for KDE NEON?
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05:04.45fysa#kde-neon :)
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05:07.10rydarethank you fysa
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10:48.19buovjagaI'm using Plasma 5.13 and trying to get Global menu working (to test if a LibreOffice bug is fixed). The way it is supposed to work nowadays is this, right? 1) Create empty panel 2) Add Global menu widget to panel 3) Restart any application to try it out. The thing is, the Global menu appears empty for me always. Tried rebooting as well.
10:48.41buovjagausing Arch Linux
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10:51.45Fulgenbuovjaga: create the application menu panel
10:55.42buovjagaFulgen: thanks for the tip. I created such a panel now and it appeared to have a Global menu by default, but it is still showing up empty
10:56.08buovjagaso it does not seem there is any functional difference vs. me creating an empty panel + adding the widget later
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10:56.28Fulgenstrange
10:56.54Fulgenwild guess: try a plasma restart
10:56.57buovjagawhen I bring my mouse to the top left corner, it shows a quarter shadow
10:57.08buovjagabut I already rebooted
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10:57.18Fulgenthen I'm out of ideas :o
10:59.27BOFH_orgHi all. I have a small issue with kmail. I'm trying to get a HTML signature attached. So far it looks fine in the compose window, but when I press send it complains about 'failed to transport message. invalid mime content'. When disabling the signature it sends fine
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11:00.26BOFH_orgthe html signature file *does* contain a mime-encoded picture, but it shows fine in a newly composed email.
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11:35.00BluesKajHowdy folks
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12:41.19lacrymol1gyjust killed the app that was on front and there's no redrawing
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13:52.55gt8ost4li need help when ever i try to transfer a filee to another windows im always disturbed by a file transfer dialog can anybody help me?
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14:03.15NeeknaimI have recently (2 months ago) installed manjaro kde. I noticed that even after installing the plasma-browser-integration, I don't get media buttons in the taskbar when playing videos from youtube (for example). Should I install the package "kmediaplayer" to get this functionality? Or any other package?
14:05.00toskyyou need to install a browser extension
14:05.06toskyfrom the browser extension manager
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14:22.07Neeknaimtosky: I have installed it. It is working because when I download a file, I see the progress in the system-tray notification area. I should add that even when I play videos in vlc, I don't get the system-tray embedded media player buttons.
14:23.59mortIs there a way to prevent konsole from zooming when I scroll while holding ctrl?
14:24.12mortI recently switched to konsole, and have been using ctrl+scroll a lot to scroll up and down in tmux
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14:26.53nggrahammort: Open Konsole > Settings > Edit Current Profile > Mouse > Uncheck "Allow Ctrl+scrollwheel to zoom text size"
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14:27.41gt8ost4lnggraham: what distro are you running?
14:27.48nggrahamKubuntu
14:27.48mortnggraham: awesome, thanks
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14:28.41gt8ost4lnggraham: am i the only one that gets the file transfer dialog here when moving files from dolphin?
14:29.02nggrahama dialog window or a square pop-up?
14:29.34morthow does konsole decide where to open links? I would like to open them with Firefox, but some links (for example, https://p.iotek.org/r53, which has a Content-Type: text/plain) apparently gets downloaded and opened with libreoffice, even though xdg-open opens it with firefox
14:30.42gt8ost4lit has options saying move here copy here link here
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14:32.22nggrahamby "file dialog", do you mean "pop-up menu with options for moving or copying?"
14:32.34gt8ost4lyes
14:32.37nggrahamif so, everyone sees that
14:32.40nggrahamit's built-in
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14:32.57gt8ost4lso you cant disable it
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14:33.05nggrahamnot to my knowledge
14:33.53gt8ost4lnggraham so you never get frustrated with it
14:34.02nggrahamI do a bit
14:34.13nggrahamI would support a way to turn it off
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14:35.26gt8ost4lnggraham i thought it was the notifications settings that would turn it off but it doesnt
14:35.41JanKusanagiyou can avoid it showing if you hold the key for the action you want
14:35.43hateballgt8ost4l: you mean if you drag and drop something a menu pops up?
14:35.49hateballyeah, what JanKusanagi said
14:35.51toskyNeeknaim: maybe the applet is just not shown and you need to enable it
14:36.03gt8ost4lhateball:yes
14:36.03toskyfrom the systray settings
14:36.08Neeknaimtosky: It seems that playing a video crashes the system-tray (locks it). When restarting I have an empty spot, a buffer, in the system tray which represent the media-player. Also in the "system tray settings", under "entries", some entries have no icons. Entries like media-player andkeyboad layout,.
14:37.01NeeknaimThe media player is enabled in the settings.
14:37.10hateballgt8ost4l: eg if you want to MOVE something, hold shift while you drag
14:37.19hateballand ctrl for copy
14:37.22NeeknaimAlso networks and touchpad have no icons... weird.
14:37.43NeeknaimI just noticed that now.
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14:43.33pholthausHey folks, does anyone know if I can change the default logout options in plasma? I.e., I want to have a hibernate option instead of suspend (to RAM)
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14:45.43thiagoin the menu? It's there for me.
14:45.59thiagoor did you mean in ctrl+alt+del?
14:46.21[Enrico]pholthaus: not all distributions are enabling hibernate as it's, unfortunately, very broken
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14:46.39[Enrico]or, at least, very unreliable
14:47.25pholthaus[Enrico]: yeah I agree that it probably shouldn't be there by default. But it works quite well on my system so I want to test it out a little more
14:47.48[Enrico]pholthaus: you have to check how to enable hibernate for your distro
14:48.09[Enrico]pholthaus: Plasma will show you the option for hibernating if the system supports it
14:48.52pholthaus[Enrico]:
14:48.53pholthauscat /sys/power/state
14:48.54pholthausfreeze mem disk
14:49.03pholthausshould be possible with my system I guess
14:49.30pholthaus[Enrico]: how does plasma determine whether it is supporteD?
14:50.00[Enrico]pholthaus: you might not have permission to trigger hibernate with your user
14:50.23[Enrico]pholthaus: I think plasma simply asks via dbus
14:50.45pholthaus[Enrico]: okay thanks I'll check that
14:51.15gt8ost4li have one more problem Baloo search doesnt search at all
14:51.33[Enrico]pholthaus: I think the property is org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate but am honestly not entirely sure :)
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14:51.44gt8ost4li tried in the documents but still nothing
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15:04.26pholthaus[Enrico]: I didn't completely check the dbus thing but something that I noticed is: krunner has a hibernate option that actually does the job. Only the logout screen doesn't have it. It only shows suspend (which sleeps)
15:04.53pholthausSo I am assuming that I just need to somehow find out how to reconfigure these buttons.
15:05.11[Enrico]pholthaus: I don't think they show up in that window
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15:05.33[Enrico]pholthaus: you have to hit a different menu to hibernate. If you use the kickoff menu you can find it there, in the "leave" section
15:07.25pholthaus[Enrico]: yeah the option is in the menu but not the logout screen. Out of a habit I always press ctrl alt del to logout and just want hibernate to appear there.
15:09.04[Enrico]pholthaus: bummer, I have no idea how to change that. I always use krunner
15:09.07[Enrico]sorry
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15:09.32pholthaus[Enrico]: no worries, I will dig around. but I think it's more or less not possible (or a very well hidden config file option)
15:09.44pholthaus[Enrico]: just thought maybe someone here knows a neat little trick
15:09.54[Enrico]I never saw a config option to change that as far as I can remember
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15:52.52Neeknaimtosky: Can you think of a way to fix this?
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15:56.12toskyNeeknaim: first I would check if it's a problem with the user settings by trying a new user
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15:56.21toskyand then, check with the distribution if there are updates
15:56.24toskyI haven't seen it
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16:21.19jfmcarreiraheyy guys
16:21.32jfmcarreirais it pssible to have two kde sessions run in two different X session
16:21.35jfmcarreiraone for each monitor?
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16:24.36asturmjfmcarreira: afaik that is not supported in a long time
16:24.38DrunkRhino[m]Anyone here use https://github.com/rliang/kwin-dynamic-virtual-desktops ?
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16:28.15jfmcarreiraasturm: why not? :( i would like to have fully indepent screens with different virtual desktops
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16:31.36asturmjfmcarreira: iirc it's a giant hack that simply no one is testing/fixing for
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16:32.27jfmcarreiraso there is no alternative for using different virtual desktops in different monitors
16:32.54asturmwhy do you need different X sessions for that?
16:33.57jfmcarreiraasturm: idk
16:34.14asturmjfmcarreira: plasma supports virtual desktops just fine?
16:34.15jfmcarreiraasturm: i am looking for a solution to have different things in different screens
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16:34.27jfmcarreiralike one screen with 2 desktops and other with 4 for example
16:34.48asturmmaybe if you combine activities with virtual desktops?
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16:35.02jfmcarreiracan i have different activities in each screen?
16:35.18asturmhm no idea there
16:35.54jfmcarreirai think you cant
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16:50.29jfmcarreiraasturm: that why i thouht that multiple desktop session would be the solution
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21:02.37herlimenezesHi, for all. I had to reinstall f27, after installation, I cannot use two monitors. What can I do?
21:02.58herlimenezesI am working in a KDE environment
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