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| 00:19.05 | GunqqerFriithian | ok with kde can you have certain things open when you log in and place them n specific workspaces |
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| 00:28.26 | jankusanagi_ | with Plasma? yes |
| 00:28.54 | GunqqerFriithian | next question: where do I find this functionality |
| 00:29.16 | jankusanagi_ | in Plasma's System Settings |
| 00:29.24 | jankusanagi_ | in the "Autostart" section |
| 00:29.33 | GunqqerFriithian | autostart that's what it's called! |
| 00:30.13 | jankusanagi_ | then, to have any window or application in a certain virtual desktop, right-click the titlebar of the target program, go to More actions â Special Application settings (or same with "window") |
| 00:30.39 | jankusanagi_ | and there you have all kinds of magic, including placing windows in desktop #X initially, or forced, etc |
| 00:30.50 | GunqqerFriithian | oh dammmnnnn |
| 00:30.53 | GunqqerFriithian | so many options |
| 00:30.59 | jankusanagi_ | this is also in System Settings, but it's way easier to do it this way |
| 00:31.39 | GunqqerFriithian | what if I want 4 konsole sessions on 1 workspace, and 2 on another? |
| 00:33.03 | Llamatron2112 | you can save a session to be restored at each start |
| 00:33.13 | GunqqerFriithian | oh that'd be much easier |
| 00:33.26 | Llamatron2112 | trying to remember where I saw that |
| 00:33.38 | GunqqerFriithian | yeah I vaugly remember something like that |
| 00:33.50 | Llamatron2112 | ha, start & stop , there's a desktop session tab |
| 00:34.48 | Llamatron2112 | 'sry it's translation from my french UI) |
| 00:35.00 | GunqqerFriithian | j'ammapel Gunqqer |
| 00:35.08 | Llamatron2112 | lol |
| 00:35.19 | GunqqerFriithian | I |
| 00:35.23 | GunqqerFriithian | m taking french 1 rn |
| 00:45.18 | GunqqerFriithian | where do I find the session management tab in the system settings? |
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| 00:46.28 | Llamatron2112 | it's in the same group than autostart |
| 00:47.26 | Llamatron2112 | there's a text search inthe config window, might be helpfull |
| 00:47.53 | GunqqerFriithian | ah wait found what I needed |
| 00:48.23 | GunqqerFriithian | how well will it react when I login with out my second monitor |
| 00:48.33 | GunqqerFriithian | (laptop) |
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| 08:26.17 | Cork | kwin keeps crashing for me a few times a day (seams to happen more when i switch desktops) but i can't find any crash reasons |
| 08:26.24 | Cork | where can one find why kwin crashed? |
| 08:27.36 | gagbo_work | You can launch kwin from a terminal and check output there when it crashes ? I don't know if kwin crashes mean all windows closing |
| 08:27.50 | gagbo_work | I had issues with plasmashell and this method worked well for me |
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| 08:30.03 | Cork | ya, i have it in a while loop right now, can't find anything that looks like a crash reason yet though :/ |
| 08:30.44 | Cork | restarted it in a screen might give me more scroll chance |
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| 08:42.20 | seijikun | Hey guys, I'm having a small problem. All my menubars are gone (File, Edit, View, ...) in KDE-applications (Konversation, Okular, KMail, Konsole, ...). |
| 08:42.39 | seijikun | This happened since the last update. Is this intended? And if so, how do I get them back? |
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| 08:44.30 | Jucato | changes like that are definitely never intentional. most likely something broke during the update. if you press Ctrl+M in the programs, does the menu bar return? |
| 08:45.20 | seijikun | @Jucato Ctrl + M does unfortunately nothing |
| 08:45.54 | Sho_ | It sounds like maybe the global menu is on ..? not sure |
| 08:46.13 | Jucato | was going to say, though i don't know where that settings is these days >.< |
| 08:47.29 | Jucato | seijikun: do you have any setting or customization (theme, etc) that puts the menu in the window title bar (or a global panel ala Mac)? |
| 08:47.32 | seijikun | I don't see a global menu. Or is it possible that it's on, but it's hidden? |
| 08:48.00 | seijikun | No, I'm using Breeze Dark with everything else on default. |
| 08:49.48 | seijikun | Directly after the updated, I tested the wayland session. It might be that this happened after I did that. |
| 08:50.09 | Jucato | ah hm ... i sadly have no experience with wayland. it could be, but not sure |
| 08:51.06 | seijikun | However, I'm currently in X11, and the menus are missing |
| 08:54.29 | Jucato | yeah. there could have been a setting that was triggered, but again i can't say for certain. |
| 08:55.36 | gagbo_work | When I had issues like I that, iirc I had to tinker with the "Application menu" button in the Window decoration settings |
| 08:55.36 | seijikun | Okay, thanks! I'll try if it was a setting by moving my home-folder and creating a new config then. |
| 08:56.29 | Jucato | would probably be easier to just look in the ~/.config folder than moving things en masse. or create a test user account first to check that it's not a system-wide thing |
| 08:56.44 | gagbo_work | try to add an appmenu button in the window decoration bar (like near the minimize/maximize/close buttons or whatever) and applying and removing it and applying |
| 08:56.58 | Jucato | gagbo_work's suggestion would be good to also check if global menu is enabled/working (mine's grayed out) |
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| 09:00.36 | seijikun | I'm in the Window Decorations menu, but aside form opening the small settings dialog for each of the themes, I can't seem to do anything in that menu. |
| 09:02.08 | Jucato | seijikun: there's a Buttons tab next to Theme |
| 09:03.27 | Jucato | https://imgur.com/a/m5m943Q |
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| 09:04.58 | seijikun | Ah, so I'm supposed to pull them in the titlebar rendered above. I didn't get that at first |
| 09:05.35 | Jucato | yep, good ol' fashioned drag and drop |
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| 09:06.42 | seijikun | Okay there's a button in the titlebar now, showing the menu of each of the applications. But how do I get this menu where it belongs now? (horizontally below the window title) |
| 09:07.45 | Jucato | seijikun: what gagbo_work said above. remove it again and click apply. |
| 09:08.39 | seijikun | It's gone again, but the menus are still missing, unfortunately |
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| 09:11.08 | Jucato | and Ctrl+M still doesn't return/hide them? odd. sorry i can't help more. no experience with the whole global menu thing (and quite puzzled why it would be enabled just with an upgrade) |
| 09:11.54 | seijikun | Okay, thank you again! I'll try with a fresh config |
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| 09:25.41 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 09:45.41 | Cork | hmm kwin writes about a 1k lins of 'file:///usr/share/kwin/tabbox/present_windows/contents/ui/main.qml:89:21: QML RowLayout: Binding loop detected for property "height"' before it crashes... |
| 09:45.49 | Cork | anyone have an idea what can be the cause? |
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| 10:22.00 | zokiDimovski | Hi there. Anyone experiencing system tray problems, like hanging of the tray and Entries are not shown when trying to modify something? |
| 10:23.09 | zokiDimovski | This is on a fresh install: VGA: Intel HD Graphics 530, 4.17.0-2-MANJARO x86_64 bits, KDE Plasma 5.12.5 |
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| 11:23.37 | AmR|EiSa | And when I set QCommandLineOption.setFlags( QCommandLineOption::HiddenFromHelp ); it's not working And the I got Option text shown. And I try Find remove Option but I don't get it ??? |
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| 11:39.33 | zokiDimovski | I forgot to mention that I have to restart plasmashell so that the system tray is usable again. |
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| 11:52.30 | Llamatron2112 | zokiDimovski: yes it's when plasmashell crashes |
| 11:52.44 | Llamatron2112 | happens to me more or less often too |
| 11:53.09 | Llamatron2112 | you can have a notification to inform you when it crashes |
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| 11:55.56 | Llamatron2112 | wonder if it wouldn't be possible to automatically execute a script to reload it when it crashes, like gnome does |
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| 12:00.50 | zokiDimovski | Llamatron2112: yes. I already made plasma_restart - where I kill plasmashell and start it again. But still :) |
| 12:01.21 | Llamatron2112 | you have a lot of aplets going on ? might be a faulty one if it happens too often |
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| 12:03.39 | Llamatron2112 | I guess it could be a theme too |
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| 12:09.18 | jankusanagi_ | for the record, plasmashell usually restarts itself when it crashes |
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| 12:10.36 | Llamatron2112 | it does ? happens pretty often that for example notifications don't get updated and clicking them only shows the hidden notifications page, and usually killing and restarting plasmashell fixes it |
| 12:14.43 | jankusanagi_ | freezing is not crashing |
| 12:14.55 | jankusanagi_ | also, don't kill plasmashell if you can avoid it... |
| 12:15.03 | jankusanagi_ | if the process is responding, use kquitapp5 |
| 12:15.41 | shtrb | how is that better ? |
| 12:15.54 | Llamatron2112 | and how do I know if the process is responding ? |
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| 12:20.51 | jankusanagi_ | it's better to ask "please stop" than just killing someone... isn't it? |
| 12:21.23 | jankusanagi_ | I really hope your answer is YES xD |
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| 12:48.19 | shtrb | JanKusanagi, https://diaspote.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_d5b0e27c98d32a00f8e5.jpeg |
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| 12:48.58 | shtrb | jankusanagi_, https://diaspote.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_d5b0e27c98d32a00f8e5.jpeg |
| 12:49.28 | achillion | kill -9 all the things |
| 12:50.07 | shtrb | And then there are the undead (Z mode) |
| 12:50.54 | achillion | # reboot |
| 12:51.17 | achillion | sometimes I'll save everything I'm doing, close all programs and do a reboot just to get rid of a zombie |
| 12:51.23 | achillion | can't stand seeing them there :| |
| 12:51.24 | shtrb | kill the parent process (*) |
| 12:51.57 | achillion | well yeah, often the parent is init :P |
| 12:52.12 | achillion | not "often" but when it becomes a problem |
| 12:52.25 | shtrb | achillion, just another exuse to kill systemd` |
| 12:52.55 | achillion | oh no, let's not get into that now :) |
| 12:53.36 | shtrb | killing processes ? |
| 12:53.43 | achillion | no, systemd hate |
| 12:58.19 | zokiDimovski | Llamatron2112: I have only 2 applets. The same theme (arc-dark) on 2 other pc's without problems and the system tray does not hang. I'll try with different user and with breeze. |
| 12:58.48 | shtrb | There is no service units in plasma, for service unit is the little death that kills over and over. Without service unit, we die but once. |
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| 13:00.31 | zokiDimovski | jankusanagi_: will use kquitapp5, did not know it till now. tnx. |
| 13:00.46 | shtrb | so yeh , I don't see why killing plasmashell is worse than calling kquitapp |
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| 13:02.04 | GunqqerFriithian | So Im running the latest version of kde5 plasma, just recently had to reinstall everything and restored my backup of /home. Now the global menu widgit isn't appearing in my menu bar, and when I looked for it in the add widgit list it was not there either. How can I get my global menu back? |
| 13:02.36 | shtrb | Does the panel exist ? |
| 13:03.06 | GunqqerFriithian | I have my menu bar with cpu, time, etc |
| 13:03.21 | GunqqerFriithian | system trey, pager |
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| 13:04.02 | shtrb | You need to add "application launcher", you maybe be missing some packages (if the that is not there) |
| 13:04.12 | GunqqerFriithian | oh yeah I have that |
| 13:04.17 | GunqqerFriithian | missed it as it's on the far left :P |
| 13:05.00 | shtrb | how big is your screen ?! |
| 13:05.13 | GunqqerFriithian | 1600x900, I do have a spacer |
| 13:05.46 | GunqqerFriithian | (I am going for an OS X esque look) |
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| 13:06.22 | baaah | ayyy |
| 13:06.37 | GunqqerFriithian | lmao? |
| 13:06.40 | baaah | I finally gave KDE a try |
| 13:06.48 | GunqqerFriithian | Niiiceee |
| 13:06.54 | baaah | having flopped between lxde, openbox, and mate for over five years |
| 13:06.59 | baaah | and being a former windows user |
| 13:07.03 | baaah | damn KDE slick |
| 13:07.17 | baaah | little ugly, but its like using windows without all the bullshit of windows |
| 13:07.31 | GunqqerFriithian | but you can make it pretty |
| 13:07.33 | baaah | I forgot how nice Debian is, now Debian with KDE |
| 13:07.37 | GunqqerFriithian | and, more importantly, efficient |
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| 13:09.20 | baaah | I need to setup KDE connect |
| 13:09.25 | baaah | That's a major thing for me |
| 13:10.16 | baaah | GunqqerFriithian: So is there a python API to augment KDE |
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| 13:10.32 | baaah | I've decided to stop doing Java development and try python finally |
| 13:10.34 | GunqqerFriithian | I have no idea, Im stumbling my way through all of this :P |
| 13:10.38 | baaah | same |
| 13:11.07 | GunqqerFriithian | most of my experience is just googling everythig |
| 13:11.53 | baaah | I haven't even done that |
| 13:12.03 | baaah | I've just brute forced most of my way so far and broken nothing |
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| 13:12.18 | baaah | I just wish the login screens weren't so ugly :> |
| 13:12.38 | GunqqerFriithian | yeah the ubuntu login screen is meh |
| 13:12.40 | baaah | Realistically KDE will probably replace mate for me |
| 13:12.47 | GunqqerFriithian | I should change it, but I don't see it enough to care |
| 13:12.54 | baaah | mate worked, but was hideous and quirky |
| 13:13.03 | baaah | Budgie... oh god |
| 13:13.13 | baaah | I was waiting for the QT re-write that isn't coming. |
| 13:13.21 | baaah | like thanks... |
| 13:13.21 | GunqqerFriithian | hannah montana linux best linux |
| 13:13.28 | baaah | >not justing bieber linux |
| 13:13.37 | GunqqerFriithian | dem fitin words |
| 13:13.37 | baaah | >not ubuntu satanic edition |
| 13:13.47 | baaah | fite me irl |
| 13:13.57 | baaah | I'll fucking install Gnome on your PC |
| 13:14.04 | maxcell_ | I put my soundCard 1 as default on KDE and the applications still pick up the Headphone, why/ |
| 13:14.07 | baaah | laughs maniacally |
| 13:14.18 | GunqqerFriithian | sudo dd if=/dev/qrandom of /dev/sd* bs=1M |
| 13:14.22 | GunqqerFriithian | wold that even work? |
| 13:14.23 | GunqqerFriithian | would* |
| 13:14.45 | GunqqerFriithian | missed an = rip |
| 13:15.02 | baaah | yes |
| 13:15.02 | shtrb | GunqqerFriithian, only the first 32 MB |
| 13:15.12 | baaah | but why qrandom and not urandom? |
| 13:15.15 | JanKusanagi | "qrandom"? random or urandom, yes |
| 13:15.43 | GunqqerFriithian | qrandom (if the maintaner would ******** maintain it) gets quantom random bits |
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| 13:15.52 | baaah | GunqqerFriithian: use urandom |
| 13:16.05 | GunqqerFriithian | QUANTOM RANDOMNESS! |
| 13:16.15 | baaah | Use a hardware RNG |
| 13:16.19 | baaah | :^) |
| 13:16.27 | baaah | I might build one |
| 13:16.37 | GunqqerFriithian | still only psudo random :P |
| 13:16.39 | baaah | Use americium as my source for radioactive decay |
| 13:17.03 | shtrb | dev/urandom need extra arg for over 32 MiB |
| 13:17.13 | baaah | since when? |
| 13:17.22 | GunqqerFriithian | yeah that's news to me |
| 13:18.52 | shtrb | since the mid 2010s (example https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/7/23/850 ) |
| 13:20.10 | shtrb | use iflag=fullblock , or cnn for some random data |
| 13:20.25 | GunqqerFriithian | just yesterday I nuked a drive with urandom, it was 500GB |
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| 13:22.26 | baaah | ^ |
| 13:22.41 | baaah | GunqqerFriithian: Yesterday I wrote a python script for face tracking |
| 13:23.00 | baaah | It was slow. Last night I hacked away at it with opencv instead of face_recognition (neural networks) |
| 13:23.03 | GunqqerFriithian | yesterday I installed an SSD in my laptop |
| 13:23.55 | baaah | nice |
| 13:23.55 | baaah | I broke my windows 10 install yesterday |
| 13:23.57 | baaah | Windows 10 has this habit of shoving it's bootloader onto the second drive... |
| 13:24.00 | GunqqerFriithian | was it you, or windows that broke it? |
| 13:24.01 | baaah | for no reason. |
| 13:24.05 | baaah | me |
| 13:24.15 | GunqqerFriithian | wow that is surprising |
| 13:24.17 | baaah | Windows thinks it should decide where it's bootloader goes |
| 13:24.22 | baaah | Unless you use UEFI |
| 13:24.31 | GunqqerFriithian | another reason to never use windows |
| 13:24.47 | baaah | I love Windows 7. 10 is really pissing me off |
| 13:24.55 | baaah | I only keep it for games these days |
| 13:25.20 | baaah | I can't wait to re-build my desktop with a ryzen APU and just go with Debian or Ubuntu |
| 13:25.38 | baaah | I love me some rock solid Linux installs that never break |
| 13:26.21 | GunqqerFriithian | my linux installs never break with out me being the idiot who caused it |
| 13:26.34 | Llamatron2112 | maxcell_: had a similar issue, it might be the because the output is chosen depending on the role of the application, there's a setting for that somewhere in the control panel, the phonon options |
| 13:26.50 | baaah | GunqqerFriithian: FrankenDebians are fun |
| 13:26.52 | baaah | :^) |
| 13:27.02 | baaah | especially if you break systemd |
| 13:27.48 | maxcell_ | Nice Llamatron2112 worked thanks |
| 13:28.00 | GunqqerFriithian | the only time an install breaking was not my fault was the first time I installed it and the drive I had was shot to hell |
| 13:28.14 | baaah | What distro? |
| 13:28.18 | GunqqerFriithian | manual fsck just to boot every time |
| 13:28.21 | baaah | I've been a Debian guy for years |
| 13:28.23 | GunqqerFriithian | ubuntu 16.04.04 LTS |
| 13:28.27 | baaah | noice |
| 13:28.31 | Llamatron2112 | maxcell_: and if you want to change an application's output it didn't seem to remember for me, until I put default.pa in .config/pulse/ |
| 13:28.34 | baaah | I love Ubuntu but not the bloat |
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| 13:28.44 | GunqqerFriithian | still what I'm using now, I'm waiting for 18.04.01 to come out before I update to it |
| 13:28.44 | baaah | That's why I usually use debian |
| 13:30.06 | maxcell_ | Llamatron2112: for me the notification sound was always too loud even if the volume was low, so i put "flat-volumes = yes" on /etc/pulse/daemon.conf |
| 13:31.28 | tosky | maxcell_: that usual lead to sound spikes at the wrong time (like on notifications), and at least Fedora disabled by default |
| 13:32.14 | maxcell_ | flat volumes lead to sound spikes/ wasnt the other way around/ |
| 13:32.43 | tosky | maxcell_: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1265267 |
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| 13:34.15 | maxcell_ | oh tosky thanks |
| 13:34.23 | maxcell_ | so i will put it on flat volumes NO |
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| 13:34.37 | maxcell_ | its a ears reaper that **** |
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| 13:36.14 | Llamatron2112 | ya mine is set to "no", probably done it myself as there's a commented "yes" line below, even if I don't remember |
| 13:37.17 | maxcell_ | probably the case Llamatron2112 |
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| 13:41.34 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.12 and KDE Applications 18.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
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| 14:24.01 | yann-kaelig | elo. |
| 14:24.22 | yann-kaelig | Good job guys. Last kde update and plasmashell no more overlaoding my cpu |
| 14:24.25 | yann-kaelig | :) |
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| 14:31.33 | dolphin__ | hello, please help me. I have installed KDE Connect on Xfce. It is not working. |
| 14:31.47 | dolphin__ | I am not able to browse the files on my android phone. |
| 14:32.05 | dolphin__ | getting this error message. "A folder named /home/sh/.cache/kioexec/krun/11235_0/ already exists." |
| 14:32.16 | dolphin__ | when I click on Browse this Device option on KDE Connect on my laptop. |
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| 14:43.08 | Cork | can someone see something usefull here https://paste.debian.net/plain/1028794 ? |
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| 14:43.24 | Cork | kwin keeps crashing every few minutes and it starts to drive me bonkers |
| 14:48.10 | pepo | Cork, if the X server dies, it is usually a driver issue. Without a full backtrace, we cannot tell for sure, though. |
| 14:48.37 | Cork | the backtrack is quite full of junk, but i have it so give me a min |
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| 14:50.16 | Cork | pepo: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1028797 |
| 14:50.52 | Cork | (i run kwin in a loop to have a somewhat working desktop that is why it repeats) |
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| 14:52.26 | Cork | (you can search for ===========================CRASH=================================== to find where it restarts) |
| 14:53.24 | dolphin__ | any solutions? |
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| 14:54.39 | Cork | dolphin__: i would try closing connect and move the cache folder for kioexec |
| 14:55.14 | Cork | though i don't use kde connect, but the cache should normally not be something that should cause problems if you remove |
| 14:55.21 | dolphin__ | Cork, how to do that? |
| 14:55.43 | Cork | just mv the ~/.cache/kioexec folder |
| 14:56.25 | dolphin__ | I didn't get you. |
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| 15:00.26 | dolphin__ | move where? |
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| 15:03.32 | Cork | dolphin__: just move it so it doesn't exist on that path location |
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| 15:03.41 | pepo | Cork, that's not a backtrace. You probably would need to use gdb and set a breakpoint at the X error handler. |
| 15:03.44 | Cork | you can remove it too, as it is just cache, but... |
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| 15:04.07 | Cork | pepo: gdb for x or kwin? |
| 15:04.49 | pepo | kwin |
| 15:06.04 | pepo | off for some work, hopefully someone else can help |
| 15:06.12 | dolphin__ | It didn't solve the problem. |
| 15:07.02 | Cork | pepo: k, thx for the help |
| 15:07.48 | Cork | dolphin__: hmm, donno, it sounds like two programs are competing for the same path, might be running two connect? donno |
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| 15:09.22 | dolphin__ | ok |
| 15:12.00 | maxcell_ | guys, there is any way to remove screen tearing on KDE when you aren't using composite/ |
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| 15:28.21 | jankusanagi_ | my question would be why they want to use Plasma without compositing xD |
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| 15:31.48 | Smithe | Question, does dolphin when connecting to sftp servers use the confs in ~/.ssh/config? |
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| 16:34.32 | Walakea | it is really trivial, but is there a way for Konsole not to display dimensions at startup? |
| 16:35.40 | Walakea | or during changing the window size |
| 16:36.08 | Dwarf | In Konsole it seems irssi bold doesn't appear as bold. Any irssi users facing the same problem? |
| 16:39.27 | Dwarf | Also, is there a hotkey to reset the zoom level? My search yielded no results |
| 16:39.56 | jankusanagi_ | Walakea: it's in the profile settings, that is, for each profile |
| 16:42.43 | Walakea | thank you, up next: Kate -> Ctrl + {backspace, delete} delete word until underscore, or more generally, is there a way to change the behaviour of Ctrl + arrows? |
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| 17:15.33 | daddesio | sddm seems to not be working for me at the moment. The service starts, but the screen is just hung on the last few boot messages ([ OK ] Started blahblah service.) Ctrl+Alt+x to another tty works fine. are there any logs I can check? |
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| 17:22.49 | daddesio | "dmesg -i | grep -i sddm" shows various segfaults in libQt5Core.so.5.5.1. |
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| 17:25.36 | daddesio | Yeah, I believe the sddm process crashes with that segfault and is restarted, going into an infinite loop. The segfault is at the same RVA each time |
| 17:26.20 | daddesio | segfault at 0 ip blahblahblah423 (the blahblah changes, but the last 3 digits are always the same) |
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| 17:36.14 | Walakea | is KDE actually portable across other Unix-like systems? |
| 17:36.31 | jankusanagi_ | Qt 5.5.x?? wow |
| 17:36.32 | Fuchs | yes, there are e.g. FreeBSD ports |
| 17:36.47 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma and other software _by_ KDE runs on FreeBSD, yes |
| 17:37.01 | Fuchs | quite a lot of it also runs also on OSX and Windowsw |
| 17:37.03 | Fuchs | -w |
| 17:37.10 | jankusanagi_ | and could run on Haiku |
| 17:37.11 | Fuchs | so not only Unices or half-Unices |
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| 17:38.27 | jankusanagi_ | there's at least a chunk of Frameworks 5 available in Haiku Depot =) |
| 17:38.46 | Walakea | i guess that is good enough, and how is it with systemd, is it just optional? |
| 17:39.09 | Fuchs | logind is needed by very few packages and that can be replaced by something compatible |
| 17:39.11 | Fuchs | so: yes |
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| 17:47.53 | Walakea | i haven'ŧ been monitoring the wayland situation, i know Gnome is fully ported, is KDE as well? |
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| 17:51.21 | Fulgen | Walakea: no, it works with Wayland, but there still are bugs |
| 17:54.12 | daddesio | alright, I installed debugging symbols and I get the same backtrace as these guys: https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/599 |
| 17:55.04 | daddesio | QObject::connect -> SDDM::Auth::Private::setSocket -> ... Basically, sddm (at least the ancient version in Ubuntu 16.04) segfaults if it's unable to connect to xorg. |
| 17:56.37 | daddesio | so... anyone know where xorg logs are stored? :P |
| 17:57.22 | daddesio | nvm I'll google it |
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| 18:14.46 | daddesio | Turns out it's a driver issue with the radeon driver on MacPros. It *randomly* doesn't work and nobody knows why. https://askubuntu.com/questions/947581/x-org-error-in-kubuntu-on-macpro |
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| 18:55.36 | Joerg-Neo900 | I just ipgraded from KDE4 to KDE5. I guess I have a ton of questions gow to configure it so it acts like my 15 years grown evolutionary KDE(1...4). First one: how to get classical start menu? |
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| 18:55.53 | Joerg-Neo900 | how to* |
| 18:56.44 | Joerg-Neo900 | second one: isn't there a taskbar pastebin miniprogram anymore? |
| 18:58.44 | Dwarf | Joerg-Neo900: Right click the application launcher and choose "alternatives" |
| 18:58.51 | Dwarf | You can then select a more classical version |
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| 19:00.47 | jankusanagi_ | **Plasma 4 to Plasma 5 |
| 19:00.48 | jankusanagi_ | =) |
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| 19:01.30 | Joerg-Neo900 | Ohh it already IS "the classical" menu |
| 19:01.39 | Joerg-Neo900 | :-/ |
| 19:01.44 | jankusanagi_ | also, one had to get used to widgets (plasmoids) already on Plasma 4, so that part is the same in Plasma 5 |
| 19:02.25 | jankusanagi_ | if you're using "Application Menu" (not Application Launcher), yes, that's the closest to "the classical menu" |
| 19:02.41 | Joerg-Neo900 | the menus have scrollbars instead of multiple panes, how to change that? |
| 19:03.01 | Joerg-Neo900 | it's unbearable |
| 19:03.36 | jankusanagi_ | I don't have that issue here |
| 19:03.38 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: you'll have to approach that with at least some open-mindedness |
| 19:03.45 | asturm | otherwise your migration will fail |
| 19:03.51 | jankusanagi_ | I guess you need 232093829839283 icons inside a category, or really smal resolution |
| 19:04.07 | Joerg-Neo900 | I guess that doesn't matter |
| 19:04.40 | asturm | there's also 'plasma-simplemenu' that is not part of the standard plasma-5 shipment |
| 19:04.41 | jankusanagi_ | also, right-clicking things and going into their settings often helps |
| 19:05.05 | Joerg-Neo900 | I'm sort of aware of that, from using this stuff almost two decades |
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| 19:06.10 | Joerg-Neo900 | took me a year to get colored icons in systray again. Now they are back to stupid B&W |
| 19:07.53 | Joerg-Neo900 | asturm: any hints on that? |
| 19:08.02 | jankusanagi_ | well, you can't expect to start with Plasma 5.12, after 13 releases without your input, and have it be exactly what you like XDD |
| 19:08.02 | asturm | on what? |
| 19:08.18 | asturm | do you need advice on how to change an icon theme? |
| 19:08.21 | Joerg-Neo900 | that = plasma-simplemenu |
| 19:08.36 | Joerg-Neo900 | yes that too, in systray |
| 19:08.58 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: I gave you the name, should be enough to make you fire up a search in your package manager or get-new-widgets dialogue |
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| 19:10.13 | Joerg-Neo900 | umm aha. Well when you say I have to find out whether it's a package or a plasma extensionm or a setting ot the hell klnows what then thanks, I guess google is my friend |
| 19:11.58 | Joerg-Neo900 | jankusanagi_: if plasma5 err kde5 would migrate my settings then there was no need for any input from my side |
| 19:12.21 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: it's a completely different thing |
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| 19:13.12 | Joerg-Neo900 | errrr |
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| 19:16.12 | jankusanagi_ | your input to _developers_ of Plasma |
| 19:16.24 | jankusanagi_ | it's been ages since Plasma 5.0 |
| 19:16.37 | jankusanagi_ | and you've started to use it now... so obviously they don't have your input |
| 19:16.56 | jankusanagi_ | it would be simply amazing if, by chance, Plasma 5 was exactly what you want |
| 19:17.30 | Joerg-Neo900 | well I still can set systray clock to show date in ISO formatm so what's the fundamental problem it didn't migrate that setting? Alas it seems I can't set the font any more in systray clock which is a regression in my book |
| 19:18.06 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: widgets are completely rewritten |
| 19:18.12 | Joerg-Neo900 | I would be happy if plasma5 would just be same like plasma4, feature and settings wise |
| 19:18.17 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: and qt5 does a lot of things different. |
| 19:18.21 | jankusanagi_ | that would make it... Plasma 4 |
| 19:18.22 | jankusanagi_ | xD |
| 19:18.40 | Joerg-Neo900 | so feature kill is progress? |
| 19:19.08 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: porting effort is |
| 19:19.13 | Joerg-Neo900 | and my input "NOOO on't kill this feature, I want it!" is needed for devels? |
| 19:20.04 | jankusanagi_ | asturm said it best, 20 minutes ago... "you'll have to approach that with at least some open-mindedness otherwise your migration will fail" |
| 19:20.11 | jankusanagi_ | yes, developers don't read minds |
| 19:20.40 | jankusanagi_ | and work's done by people, not by magic |
| 19:20.52 | Joerg-Neo900 | I gave enough input to make KDE4 ok, without regressions KDE5 would be OK too |
| 19:21.06 | jankusanagi_ | what's "KDE5"? |
| 19:21.13 | asturm | :) |
| 19:21.31 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: sad you've been missing in all that time of plasma-5 development then |
| 19:21.47 | jankusanagi_ | what you call "regressions", many people call enhancements |
| 19:22.14 | Joerg-Neo900 | a feature kill is never an achievement, though Gnome thinks different |
| 19:22.50 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: you're implying features are killed intentionally |
| 19:22.50 | jankusanagi_ | if you say so... |
| 19:23.25 | Joerg-Neo900 | asturm: I give you the benefit of doubt here |
| 19:23.31 | jankusanagi_ | killing a feature that confuses people, or makes people sometimes lose data, or something like that, is a great achievement, as you said "in my book" |
| 19:23.48 | Joerg-Neo900 | can I change the font and fontsize of systray clock? |
| 19:24.19 | asturm | 'configure digital clock' |
| 19:24.29 | asturm | you can at least change the font |
| 19:24.32 | Joerg-Neo900 | no fiont setting |
| 19:24.46 | asturm | old version, maybe? |
| 19:25.03 | Joerg-Neo900 | Opense Leap 42.3 |
| 19:25.09 | asturm | old. |
| 19:25.11 | jankusanagi_ | the font style setting has been there for as long as I can remember |
| 19:25.25 | asturm | dunno, as I'm always on latest |
| 19:25.26 | jankusanagi_ | telling Plasma and Frameworks versions helps |
| 19:25.36 | Joerg-Neo900 | maybe I'm just blind, quite usual problem ;-) |
| 19:25.39 | jankusanagi_ | telling whateverdistributionyouuse version doesn't help much |
| 19:25.58 | asturm | jankusanagi_: iirc it is plasma-5.8 lts there while we are at least on 5.12.5 or 5.13 branch |
| 19:26.45 | Joerg-Neo900 | oooh got it - blinf indeed |
| 19:26.49 | Joerg-Neo900 | sorry |
| 19:26.57 | Joerg-Neo900 | font yeah, size no |
| 19:28.14 | Joerg-Neo900 | asturm: I'd provide the version if I knew where to find it |
| 19:28.31 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: kinfocenter, plasmashell -v, ... |
| 19:28.32 | Joerg-Neo900 | it's obviously not under "Help -> KDE" anymore |
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| 19:28.35 | asturm | (your package manager) |
| 19:28.53 | jankusanagi_ | of course not, KDE is people |
| 19:29.04 | jankusanagi_ | people don't usually have versioning =) |
| 19:29.21 | jankusanagi_ | sometimes people reinvent themselves after a breakup or something, and call themselves 2.0 |
| 19:29.25 | jankusanagi_ | but not often :D |
| 19:29.27 | asturm | jankusanagi_: well, with hereditary first names... |
| 19:29.28 | Joerg-Neo900 | NFC which running gag you want to tell me |
| 19:29.33 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: you could argue... |
| 19:29.52 | asturm | meh, your same-first-letter is inconvenient |
| 19:31.20 | Joerg-Neo900 | tbh I wouldn't know where to find PLASMA version under KDE4 either. but at least I found the KDE version (no idea if people had versions a few years back) |
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| 19:31.58 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: some history: https://dot.kde.org/2013/09/04/kde-release-structure-evolves |
| 19:32.35 | Joerg-Neo900 | I hoz other fish to fry right now. This is my prifessional workstation and I urgently miss the pastebin miniprogram |
| 19:32.45 | Joerg-Neo900 | got* |
| 19:33.18 | jankusanagi_ | asturm clearly said: " Joerg-Neo900: kinfocenter, plasmashell -v, ..." |
| 19:33.26 | Joerg-Neo900 | actually I miss all miniprograms in control bar |
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| 19:34.22 | jankusanagi_ | I don't know what "the pastebin miniprogram" is, but not having it might be an openSUSE decision |
| 19:34.40 | asturm | it certainly is part of Leap 15 |
| 19:34.51 | asturm | (clipboard?) |
| 19:35.44 | Joerg-Neo900 | ot's an icon in control bar (ohmy why did I chose German when upgrading?) where you can drag&drop texts and pictures and get an URL of a pastebin service in clipboard |
| 19:36.20 | jankusanagi_ | ok, so "miniprogram" = plasmoid? |
| 19:36.27 | Joerg-Neo900 | yep |
| 19:36.33 | asturm | yeah, that's the super awkward translation... |
| 19:36.43 | asturm | some things would not need translation imo. |
| 19:36.46 | jankusanagi_ | I have a "quich share" plasmoid |
| 19:36.51 | jankusanagi_ | that sounds like what you want |
| 19:36.55 | Joerg-Neo900 | yes!!! |
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| 19:38.23 | Joerg-Neo900 | alas no "quick*share" even in "download new plasmoids" |
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| 19:41.44 | Joerg-Neo900 | ohmy, all my hotkeys are gone as well |
| 19:42.38 | jankusanagi_ | well, if you don't have that plasmoid |
| 19:42.44 | jankusanagi_ | is certainly a openSUSE issue |
| 19:42.48 | jankusanagi_ | I have it here in Mageia =) |
| 19:43.45 | Joerg-Neo900 | I don't think I could switch ditros 5 times a day (or minute) depending on the feature needed rith at the moment |
| 19:43.50 | asturm | might be simply a missing package. |
| 19:44.13 | Joerg-Neo900 | I guess when I knew where, I could download the package and install locally |
| 19:44.15 | jankusanagi_ | in Mageia, it's included in kdeplasma-addons |
| 19:44.41 | jankusanagi_ | but one cannot expect to have everything ready and customized to their taste in 5 seconds |
| 19:44.46 | jankusanagi_ | things take time |
| 19:45.13 | Joerg-Neo900 | that'S why I didn't upgrade since suse13.2 |
| 19:45.15 | asturm | quickshare plugin is conditional build-time on libpurpose |
| 19:45.42 | Joerg-Neo900 | I knew it will take me out of business for 2 weeks |
| 19:46.10 | jankusanagi_ | well, whenever one decides to upgrade, one cannot expect the machine to read their mind |
| 19:46.26 | jankusanagi_ | testing things on separate or virtual machines helps... |
| 19:46.38 | jankusanagi_ | doing some reading beforehand... |
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| 19:47.43 | Joerg-Neo900 | came he hoping for help to make that one week. Sorry I'm not planning to rant, but sometimes it's just hard to not vent ;-) |
| 19:48.29 | Joerg-Neo900 | nah, actually upgrade went smoother than expected |
| 19:48.37 | jankusanagi_ | I couldn't rant or vent about amazing stuff given to me for free |
| 19:48.42 | jankusanagi_ | must be me... |
| 19:48.43 | pepo | how does the size of the clock font take you out of work for weeks? It was made automatic in Plasma 5, because there were issues with fixed font sizes in Plasma 4. |
| 19:49.05 | Joerg-Neo900 | pepo: missing hotkeys do, for example |
| 19:49.53 | Joerg-Neo900 | on the rationale regarding fontsize: I want time twice as large as date |
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| 19:50.33 | Joerg-Neo900 | or a missing pastebin plasmoid |
| 19:50.33 | jankusanagi_ | ah, you would have been happy with Plasma 5.6 or so |
| 19:50.40 | jankusanagi_ | too bad you weren't using it then xD |
| 19:51.03 | jankusanagi_ | quickshare plasmoid exists |
| 19:51.16 | Joerg-Neo900 | well maybe I actually am on plasma5.6, this is ancient opensuse leap 42.3 |
| 19:51.20 | Joerg-Neo900 | ;-) |
| 19:51.27 | asturm | I said already, Plasma-5.8 LTS |
| 19:51.31 | jankusanagi_ | well, asturm mentioned |
| 19:51.34 | jankusanagi_ | well, that â |
| 19:51.36 | Joerg-Neo900 | asturm: aah thanks |
| 19:51.40 | asturm | but you can find out whenever you actually want |
| 19:51.49 | jankusanagi_ | also mentioned to run kinfocenter... |
| 19:52.10 | Joerg-Neo900 | yes, but knowing my plasma version is not really what bothers me right now |
| 19:52.19 | pepo | The Leap version isn't the problem, though. You can installer newer KDE software on 42.3. |
| 19:52.31 | jankusanagi_ | well, if you WANT HELP, you should know what you're using |
| 19:52.37 | Joerg-Neo900 | ok |
| 19:52.56 | Joerg-Neo900 | igh, no terminal plasmoid |
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| 19:54.21 | xyquadrat[m] | For what would you need a terminal plasmoid? Genuinely interested |
| 19:54.56 | Joerg-Neo900 | to click it to open Konsole |
| 19:55.00 | xyquadrat[m] | You could just lauch konsole with some fancy window rules instead if you need to |
| 19:55.19 | asturm | who opens konsole when they have yakuake... |
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| 19:55.30 | GunqqerFriithian | what's yakuake? |
| 19:55.31 | jankusanagi_ | Yakuake >>>>> all |
| 19:55.38 | xyquadrat[m] | So you want a shortcut? |
| 19:55.49 | asturm | that said, there is a konsole profiles widget if launching it is all you want |
| 19:56.11 | Joerg-Neo900 | to click it to open Konsole |
| 19:56.19 | jankusanagi_ | so you want... an icon? |
| 19:56.21 | Joerg-Neo900 | >>[11.06.18 21:55:23] [D-Bus] Fehler: Das Skript âping-ibotâ ist nicht auffindbar.<< arrgh |
| 19:56.33 | jankusanagi_ | yes, "arrgh" indeed... |
| 19:57.07 | xyquadrat[m] | Well you can simply change you r desktop type to folder view or whatever it is called |
| 19:57.16 | Joerg-Neo900 | jankusanagi_: I had an idon in control bar, yes |
| 19:57.27 | jankusanagi_ | what's "control bar"? |
| 19:57.33 | xyquadrat[m] | And then drag n drop konsole to the desktop which should create a nice icon |
| 19:57.35 | jankusanagi_ | you can put launchers wherever you want |
| 19:57.38 | asturm | panel? |
| 19:57.47 | jankusanagi_ | you can also open Konsole via keyboard shortcuts |
| 19:57.55 | jankusanagi_ | you can also run Yakuake |
| 19:58.02 | jankusanagi_ | there are like 3 million options... |
| 19:58.11 | Joerg-Neo900 | my take on translating "Kontroll Leiste" |
| 19:58.27 | GunqqerFriithian | after using unity for so long I now and ctrl slt t bound to opening a konsole window |
| 19:58.32 | jankusanagi_ | it would help if you run your desktop in English while you ask for help.... |
| 19:58.52 | xyquadrat[m] | Yeah the translations can be misleading sometimes |
| 19:58.58 | Joerg-Neo900 | if you tell me how to change KDE lang to English, I won't sound as weird anymore |
| 19:59.11 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma's system settings are quite self-explanatory |
| 19:59.17 | Joerg-Neo900 | k |
| 19:59.25 | asturm | Joerg-Neo900: so you don't have konsole profiles widget? |
| 19:59.35 | xyquadrat[m] | You can simply search for konsoe in the app launcher and drag it to the panel |
| 19:59.36 | jankusanagi_ | note: I'm not english-native, this is not a "english over all the things!!" issue |
| 19:59.59 | jankusanagi_ | or right-click konsole â add to desktop or â add to panel |
| 20:00.07 | xyquadrat[m] | Systemeinstellungen -> Regionaleinstellungen |
| 20:00.08 | jankusanagi_ | again, 3 million ways to do things |
| 20:00.17 | Joerg-Neo900 | now if only I knew the german name (and position in that new startmenu) of Plasma's system settings |
| 20:00.27 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma's system settings have a beautiful search field |
| 20:00.43 | jankusanagi_ | you can just run systemsettings5 |
| 20:00.49 | asturm | jankusanagi_: my way or the highway! :) |
| 20:01.04 | xyquadrat[m] | "Systemeinstellungen' |
| 20:01.15 | Joerg-Neo900 | aaah "Einstellungen", not system anymore |
| 20:01.18 | xyquadrat[m] | That's the name in german IIRC |
| 20:01.19 | jankusanagi_ | my way which I haven't told you which one it is, or the highway!! =) |
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| 20:01.28 | Joerg-Neo900 | yeus[m]: yep |
| 20:01.33 | Joerg-Neo900 | xyquadrat[m]: ^^^ |
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| 20:20.41 | Joerg-Neo900 | h,,. I managed to set panel / plasma to english. I added a second panel on top of screen and have a task manager in there (removed the one in bottom panel). Alas now after restart no windows show in task manager and the Konversation window is shifted up under the top panel so no menus of Konversation visible, wile at bottom of supposedly maximized window there's a "gap" of same size to bottom panel |
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| 20:22.23 | Joerg-Neo900 | Alt+LMB doesn't work to drag the konversation window down and obviously I can't grab it on hidden/covered title bar |
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| 20:24.38 | Joerg-Neo900 | starting kate - same effect. even worse: window with focus doesn't come to front |
| 20:24.58 | jankusanagi_ | well, alt+LMB works fine for dragging; something's broken in your system |
| 20:25.10 | Joerg-Neo900 | yes |
| 20:25.17 | Joerg-Neo900 | any suggestions? |
| 20:25.22 | jankusanagi_ | also, panels have settings, like "windows can cover" and such |
| 20:25.34 | Joerg-Neo900 | those are correctly set |
| 20:25.53 | johnnyfive | KDE uses magic strings similar to the kernel, correct? So that plugins/modules/whatevs are known to be compatible with kde? |
| 20:26.09 | jankusanagi_ | what? |
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| 20:27.44 | johnnyfive | Who is that "what?" directed at? Me? |
| 20:29.28 | jankusanagi_ | yes |
| 20:29.46 | johnnyfive | Which part is not understood so I can clarify? |
| 20:30.24 | jankusanagi_ | well, to be honest, I didn't understand much of the whole message |
| 20:30.38 | jankusanagi_ | what do you call "magic strings", and what are you actually asking about them? |
| 20:30.50 | jankusanagi_ | and as usual: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 20:31.18 | jankusanagi_ | environment variables, maybe?? |
| 20:31.25 | johnnyfive | The kernel has a magic string called vermagic which describes compatibility between modules, requiring them to be built against the same version of the kernel |
| 20:31.35 | johnnyfive | Not trying to be preachy, just covering what I know |
| 20:31.57 | johnnyfive | AFAIK KDE does something similar, correct? |
| 20:32.30 | jankusanagi_ | I think this is a question for #kde-devel |
| 20:32.38 | johnnyfive | Roger, ty |
| 20:32.38 | rdieter | johnnyfive: not in general (as far as I know), but... Qt5 does have something similar for plugins |
| 20:34.29 | rdieter | (maybe my memory is faulty, nvm, this seems to contradict that a bit, http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/deployment-plugins.html ) |
| 20:34.41 | johnnyfive | ty rdieter |
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| 21:01.00 | Joerg-Neo900 | please excuse the silly question, I just want to make sure I'm not doing nonsense, so: how do I add the Task Manager to panel? |
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| 21:03.37 | rdieter | Joerg-Neo900: easist (imo) is to add a "default panel", that one includes all the standard widgets already, including task manager |
| 21:03.45 | jankusanagi_ | right-click the panel â add widgets |
| 21:04.09 | jankusanagi_ | or right-click the desktop â add widgets â drag to panel instead of desktop |
| 21:04.09 | Joerg-Neo900 | rdieter: thanks |
| 21:04.28 | Joerg-Neo900 | jankusanagi_: thanks |
| 21:05.03 | jankusanagi_ | widgets need to be unlocked of course |
| 21:05.57 | jankusanagi_ | another way, click the "hamburger menu" symbol at the very right of the panel, and while the panel is in "edit mode", there's a "add widgets" button |
| 21:11.42 | Joerg-Neo900 | kbd dead s [2 |
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| 21:23.53 | Joerg-Neo900 | haha, there's an icon "DE" for "IBus Panel" in systray. I dared to "quit" and that obviously gave me kbd mapping "NULL" aka "no characters or anything types", though ctrl+v still worked |
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| 21:28.33 | Joerg-Neo900 | ok removed the top-of-screen panel and added task manager to bottom panel, now (after session restart) I see window title bars again and also buttons in taskswitcher |
| 21:31.52 | yann-kaelig | nice joke with the lazy option |
| 21:31.58 | yann-kaelig | :) |
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| 21:55.26 | Joerg-Neo900 | headdesks |
| 21:58.04 | Joerg-Neo900 | quickshare is only "quickshare" when you have plasma set to EN_en, in DE_de it's (sorry I forgot) "schnelles Filesharing" OWTTE |
| 21:59.22 | Joerg-Neo900 | *maybe* OT in here, but: why is my IRC client losing connection when I switch X11 session to a new user? |
| 21:59.25 | jankusanagi_ | makes sense |
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| 22:00.18 | Joerg-Neo900 | on ctrl+alt+F7 I come back to a Konversation that's disconnected and reconnects the very moment I return to this session |
| 22:00.35 | Joerg-Neo900 | systemd? |
| 22:00.47 | Joerg-Neo900 | and friends |
| 22:01.52 | Joerg-Neo900 | or a "feature" of this "new" thing for network management, that replaced KNetworkManager? |
| 22:02.59 | Joerg-Neo900 | or is this just me and my broken system once more? |
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| 22:24.56 | Joerg-Neo900 | WAAAH! Konqueror lost all bookmarks |
| 22:25.45 | Joerg-Neo900 | now that is... a killer |
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| 22:28.19 | tosky | Joerg-Neo900: they are not lost, probably "just" not imported, but you can copy the file from the old location (~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml) to the new one (~/.local/share/konqueror/bookmarks.xml) |
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| 22:51.58 | Joerg-Neo900 | ooh, you probably made my week. I already assumed they will be existent at least in btrfs snapshot of 24h ago, but pointing to the location and mentioning "import" will make the difference |
| 22:54.28 | Joerg-Neo900 | indeed, made my day |
| 22:54.34 | Joerg-Neo900 | jr@saturn:~> l ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml |
| 22:54.35 | Joerg-Neo900 | -rw-r--r-- 4 jr users 63 Dez 27 2012 /home/jr/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml |
| 22:54.37 | Joerg-Neo900 | jr@saturn:~> l ~/.kde4/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml |
| 22:54.38 | Joerg-Neo900 | -rw-r--r-- 1 jr users 1175033 Jun 10 22:16 /home/jr/.kde4/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml |
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| 22:55.37 | jankusanagi_ | tosky makes many people's days =) |
| 22:55.50 | jankusanagi_ | a true daymaker! |
| 23:00.57 | Joerg-Neo900 | indeed worked like a charm. would you know if I can copy konqueror settings/config in a similar way? |
| 23:01.24 | jankusanagi_ | the settings are supposed to be imported automatically |
| 23:01.25 | Joerg-Neo900 | tosky: ^^^ |
| 23:01.31 | jankusanagi_ | at least for most programs by KDE |
| 23:01.59 | Joerg-Neo900 | hmm, konqueror doesn't show a bookmark bar at least |
| 23:02.10 | jankusanagi_ | there's a message printed about it on first startup, if you run it from a terminal |
| 23:02.17 | Joerg-Neo900 | no big thing if that's the only setting that got lost |
| 23:02.24 | jankusanagi_ | maybe Konqueror doesn't, or brings the settings but not the bookmarks |
| 23:02.32 | tosky | I don't remember if it was implemented for Konqueror |
| 23:02.45 | jankusanagi_ | do you have keditbookmarks installed? |
| 23:02.45 | tosky | but if the bookmarks are not there, config may be in the same status |
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| 23:03.18 | Joerg-Neo900 | yep. prolly since konqueror is in zombie state for all I can tell |
| 23:03.38 | Joerg-Neo900 | or did it see maintenance lately? |
| 23:05.09 | tosky | not much |
| 23:05.23 | Joerg-Neo900 | settings->show_bookmark_toolbar, done. I wonder what else I got configured in konqui |
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| 23:07.47 | Joerg-Neo900 | prolly worh looking at .kde4/*/apps/konqueror/*rc or somesuch, and copy it to ~/.local... same way like bookmarks |
| 23:08.32 | hal529 | When exec'd in 'konsole', some apps' output -- in this specific case, running webpack -- overwrites progress lines. |
| 23:08.32 | hal529 | I.e., instead of "25% blah blah" on one line, "26% blah blah" on the next, it overwrites ALL the progress, 0-100%, on the one line. It doesn't happen with ALL the output from the app -- just some. |
| 23:08.41 | hal529 | I want to see ALL the output , with linefeeds preserved. Other apps' term output (e.g., term in PhpStorm IDE) doesn't clobber those linefeeds. |
| 23:08.41 | hal529 | There's gotta be a konsole setting to set/prevent this; terminal output What & where is it? It's "in here" _somewhere_ ... |
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| 23:20.32 | Joerg-Neo900 | tosky: could you help me out with the new location for ~/.kde4/share/config/konquerorrc in ~/.local(?) |
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| 23:24.34 | pepo | rc files are in .config/ not .local/ |
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| 23:31.37 | tosky | Joerg-Neo900: as pepo wrote: config maps to ~/.config |
| 23:31.47 | Joerg-Neo900 | ooh yeah, just foiund out, using find :-) thanks |
| 23:43.25 | GunqqerFriithian | so running plasma, global menu isn't showin gup in the widgit list to add to menus/what ever |
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| 23:53.14 | GunqqerFriithian | if anyone has any ideas or help to offer ping me |
| 23:53.54 | jankusanagi_ | you might need a specific package from your distribution to have that plasmoid available |
| 23:54.04 | jankusanagi_ | hm |
| 23:54.16 | jankusanagi_ | maybe not... Mageia has it in "plasma-workspace" |
| 23:55.48 | jankusanagi_ | GunqqerFriithian: see this list of files http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/d2f0fdd763c4d38ce7baf2f8b1d100d0/files |
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| 23:56.35 | jankusanagi_ | in Mageia's case: /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.appmenu |
| 23:57.00 | jankusanagi_ | if you have other plasmoids in that ./plasmoids/ directory, you should have that one |
| 23:57.21 | jankusanagi_ | if not, your OS might have that in a separate package |
| 23:57.30 | jankusanagi_ | I'll assume you're not on an ancient version of Plasma... |
