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| 01:00.59 | charlton_ | Question: I'm still on kde3.5 guys... because kde4 and now kde5's panel is inferior to kde3.5 |
| 01:01.23 | charlton_ | I'm also running Gentoo linux, so keeping a 3.5 system going is becoming more and more difficult. |
| 01:01.42 | charlton_ | Today my update finally broke in ways I don't know how to fix. |
| 01:03.26 | charlton_ | So my question is: is there a panel like/based on kicker (kde3.5 panel) out there, that can be used with kde5 or openbox? |
| 01:03.49 | charlton_ | My main feature request for the kde5 panel is: thumbnail images in the pager. |
| 01:04.09 | charlton_ | or at least scaled desktop wallpaper images in the pager. |
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| 01:10.59 | spacecase | Does kmail not support office365-hosted email? |
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| 01:13.42 | themill | spacecase: it does as an imap resource |
| 01:14.01 | spacecase | the imap part works just fine, but there seems to be no way to send mail |
| 01:14.14 | spacecase | smtp seems broken with some extra broken on top |
| 01:16.03 | spacecase | haven't really found any useful info online, nothing relating to 18.04, one pissed off guy, and some posts about the EWS plugin that should make it all work but doesn't seem to. Trying to figure out whether it's a fact of kmail, a distro thing, or something else and ultimately get it working |
| 01:18.40 | spacecase | seems like around 2014 everyone became horribly misguided and stopped using desktop mail clients :\ |
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| 02:33.17 | themill | spacecase: sending via authenticated SMTP works fine too |
| 02:33.33 | spacecase | it doesn't, that's the issue |
| 02:33.57 | themill | *sigh* |
| 02:34.03 | themill | It does, you need to configure it correctly. |
| 02:34.19 | themill | smtp.office365.com, port 587, TLS, LOGIN |
| 02:34.26 | spacecase | point me to some instruction that would, if you would, please |
| 02:34.30 | spacecase | that's exactly how I have it set up |
| 02:34.48 | themill | wrong username? |
| 02:34.54 | spacecase | nope |
| 02:35.01 | spacecase | name@domain |
| 02:36.38 | spacecase | "failed to transport message. connection to server lost" |
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| 05:20.29 | kyan | How to make dragged tabs not turn into a new window in Konsole? It's really annoying because if I'm not extremely careful when switching tabs, it does that. Thanks. |
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| 05:39.25 | Triffid_Hunter | kyan: use shift+left/right to switch instead of clicking ;) |
| 05:40.19 | kyan | mm, that's handy. Not so sure how well it will hold up with more than a few tabs, but cool, thanks! |
| 05:41.05 | Triffid_Hunter | kyan: configure shortcuts, you can set whatever keys you like.. there's shortcuts for first tab, second tab, etc but they seem to have no default key |
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| 05:42.18 | kyan | ty. It would still be nice to have a way to disable the new window thing, though. |
| 05:42.33 | kyan | I guess it might need a patch |
| 05:42.59 | kyan | finds C++ overwhelming to read and understand |
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| 05:44.49 | kyan | thanks! |
| 05:46.33 | kyan | tried several times to port an app to Qt5/KF5, gave up after several hours each time without making any progress :P |
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| 06:26.19 | someone__ | Hi, Is it possible to save text file with password by using kate ? |
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| 06:44.14 | hateball | someone__: well plaintext itself has no such function |
| 06:44.39 | hateball | so you would need to save in a different format that supports it (not sure if Kate supports that) or use gzip or something |
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| 06:47.08 | someone__ | Ok, thanks |
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| 06:49.09 | napterk | Hi, from time to time akonadiserver it taking a hughe amount of ressource. Sometimes it is that much that it is impossible to use the system further and I have to kill the akonadi process. |
| 06:49.31 | napterk | Anyone experience this as well? Is there a way to inspect the problem further? |
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| 07:58.56 | philluminati | I have this bug where clicking maximise only mximises the window to a small area of the screen. Horizontally it's maximised but vertically it isn't. This is when I have a laptop with a second exteernal monitor attached. The rest of desktop does function as expected and there's no wierdness like overlapping displays afaict |
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| 07:59.27 | philluminati | Any ideas guys? When a window isn't maximised it can happily sit in the lower section of the desktop. the background renders ok there etc.. |
| 08:00.00 | philluminati | is there a setting controlling what size a maximised window should be, that needs editing? |
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| 08:32.45 | Krisostoomus | https://imgur.com/a/kMTEtfm |
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| 09:11.30 | gagbo | Hello, if I want some *.colors files to be picked up by system-settings in appearance > Colors, where should I put them ? ~/.kde/share/colors ? |
| 09:11.41 | gagbo | ~/.kde/share/config/colors* |
| 09:11.59 | gagbo | I have the same question with "Desktop theme" |
| 09:11.59 | Fuchs | gagbo: .local/share/color-schemes/ |
| 09:12.04 | Fuchs | on more recent systems, that is |
| 09:12.20 | Fuchs | .kde is mostly dead and replaced by XDG conformant .config and .local |
| 09:12.36 | gagbo | Thank god it makes stuff easy |
| 09:12.52 | gagbo | I'm on beta 13 so it should be fine |
| 09:12.57 | gagbo | Desktop themes go there too ? |
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| 09:26.34 | Llamatron2112 | I'm having some weird bug with plasma: when I drag'n'drop a graphical component, or some UI elements(for example the applications to send them to a given sound card in the pulseaudio applet), even if I'm on a zone where it should be valid drop spots I have the red "forbidden" symbol on my mouse cursor and droping doesn't work, there's a few valid spots but they seem to be random pixels here and there on the area, I have to really move my |
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| 09:28.13 | Llamatron2112 | & I'm using plasma 5.12.5 on arch |
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| 10:42.35 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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| 11:02.42 | MrCircuitMatt | hello. I'm running KDE plasma version 5.12.5 with KDE Frameworks v. 5.46.0 on manjaro linux. Question: Are shared printers supposed to pop up in kde print dialogs automatically? I see my printer in firefox but not in okular or kate |
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| 11:08.25 | MrCircuitMatt | by shared printer I mean a printer in my network (not on the local machine) that is being advertised by cups |
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| 11:46.46 | MrCircuitMatt | OK never mind it was not a KDE problem. I hate printing. Thank you and all the best! |
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| 12:44.08 | dougie | Anyone know of a Qt-based terminal that supports tiling, like Tilix? |
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| 12:51.34 | dougie | Got Tilix to look better on KDE by disabling CSD. Not a big deal if there's not a comparable Qt terminal. |
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| 13:30.23 | crmlt | Hello, any QT graphical deb packages installer for KDE? |
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| 13:51.02 | Fuchs | crmlt: muon and discover, I guess? |
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| 13:52.29 | BuddyButterfly | hi |
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| 13:52.57 | BuddyButterfly | need help related to permissions in kde desktop. have come a long upgrade session from kubuntu trusty. |
| 13:53.21 | BuddyButterfly | currently i am not able to open system settings from desktop. only from command line via root it is possible. |
| 13:53.50 | BuddyButterfly | on desktop i am getting the error "no view found so nothing to display" or the like. |
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| 13:54.23 | BuddyButterfly | I am having some other issues but they all seem permission related. |
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| 13:58.56 | JanKusanagi | you could try moving ~/.config/systemsettingsrc to another location |
| 13:59.08 | JanKusanagi | and removing ~/.cache/systemsettings |
| 13:59.27 | JanKusanagi | also, you could check some of the modules individually |
| 13:59.52 | BuddyButterfly | JanKusanagi: tnx., ok, slowly.... ;-) will check your hints first... |
| 14:00.11 | JanKusanagi | 'kcmshell5 --list' will give you a list of available modules |
| 14:00.19 | JanKusanagi | the list should be rather long |
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| 14:23.58 | BuddyButterfly | ok, first m oved .cache/systemsettings... |
| 14:24.09 | BuddyButterfly | shall I restart then? |
| 14:24.23 | BuddyButterfly | or logout and re-login? |
| 14:25.47 | BuddyButterfly | jankusanagi_: just moving the systemsettings did not help |
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| 15:36.01 | jfmcarreira | heyy guys |
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| 15:36.34 | jfmcarreira | I am using kde in a machine with the home location in a nfs share. How can i change cache location so i can improve performance? |
| 15:46.41 | BuddyButterfly | jfmcarreira: ist there a separate option where you can specify fscache? |
| 15:46.47 | BuddyButterfly | and there is a fscached? |
| 15:47.08 | BuddyButterfly | if i remember correctly, the location is then configurable. |
| 15:48.27 | BuddyButterfly | jfmcarreira: you should also switch atime off in nfs and increase window size. |
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| 16:03.00 | rdieter | jfmcarreira: environment variable, XDG_CACHE_HOME (defaults to ~/.cache) |
| 16:04.53 | rdieter | jfmcarreira: additional reading, https://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html#variables |
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| 16:12.44 | jfmcarreira | Hard questions. I will try to check that out |
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| 16:21.12 | jfmcarreira | rdieter: can i change XDG_CACHE_HOME to any location |
| 16:21.16 | jfmcarreira | ? |
| 16:21.54 | rdieter | jfmcarreira: yes, preferably a local disk (than something nfs-mounted) |
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| 16:24.47 | jfmcarreira | rdieter: is it required between boots? |
| 16:27.00 | jfmcarreira | rdieter: how do i change kde enviroment vars? |
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| 17:03.13 | Sri_Designer | https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2018/ starting now ⢠see your next kde hardware |
| 17:03.47 | asturm | will they fix their broken keyboards? that's the question. |
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| 17:27.01 | jankusanagi_ | not on Mr Cook's life |
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| 17:37.34 | rdieter | jfmcarreira: you need to always set it (as long as you want it used). one way to set it, create a shell snippet ~/.config/plasma-workspace/env/xdg_cache_home.sh containing something like: export XDG_CACHE_HOME=/var/tmp/${USER}.cache in |
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| 17:40.35 | rdieter | (minus the "in" at the end) |
| 17:41.41 | rdieter | the startkde script sources items in ~/.config/plasma-workspace/env/ when you start your plasma session |
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| 19:50.52 | Dwarf | pepo: Did you check my screenshot? It's very much bigger than two character cells I'm afraid. More like... 50. Or more. |
| 19:51.16 | pepo | Wayland? |
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| 20:27.29 | jfmcarreira | rdieter: thank you. is the cache required between boots or may i use tmpfs? |
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| 20:28.23 | ArchAntergosKDE | hello #kde, I'm trying to write a script to change my desktop wallpaper, to that end I'm trying to test this bit of code I foudn online: |
| 20:28.24 | ArchAntergosKDE | https://paste.pound-python.org/show/g8amYKtN6PxSQmC8Pr73/ |
| 20:28.33 | ArchAntergosKDE | but it doens't seem to do anything |
| 20:28.39 | ArchAntergosKDE | any ideas why? |
| 20:29.02 | ArchAntergosKDE | and before you ask yes I did change the path to point to a real file |
| 20:29.41 | rdieter | jfmcarreira: tmpfs is ok, but it could grow big mind you |
| 20:29.57 | JanKusanagi | jfmcarreira: it's not "required", but for some stuff (like Marble) it could mean downloading tons of data every time |
| 20:30.43 | ArchAntergosKDE | turns out I had to unlock widgets |
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| 20:31.00 | ArchAntergosKDE | anyone know how to unlock and relock widgets via script? |
| 20:31.01 | jfmcarreira | JanKusanagi: thanks for the info. I remmeber now that the local disk is an ssd so no worry about not being in RAM |
| 20:32.17 | rdieter | ArchAntergosKDE: if the filename doesn't actually change, I don't think it'll try reloading it |
| 20:33.05 | rdieter | ArchAntergosKDE: you may need some similar plasma javascript code for that too, I'll see if I can find the key(s) that change |
| 20:33.22 | ArchAntergosKDE | yeah I'm aware of that part, was just testing to see if I could get it to work at all |
| 20:33.41 | ArchAntergosKDE | I also need to figure out how to do each of my two monitors seperately |
| 20:34.18 | rdieter | yeah, it adds a [General] section with immutability=2 to plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc (typically found in ~/.config) |
| 20:34.50 | rdieter | ArchAntergosKDE: and if I recall, I don't think separate wallpaper per screen is supported |
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| 20:39.08 | ArchAntergosKDE | rdieter: uh oh, that would be a show stopper |
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| 20:41.31 | ArchAntergosKDE | searching in plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc I couldn't find any lines with "immutability=2" |
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| 20:43.27 | ArchAntergosKDE | oo I did find the section with the image I set |
| 20:43.30 | rdieter | ArchAntergosKDE: that's the only line that changed for me when I set "lock widgets" <shrug> |
| 20:43.30 | ArchAntergosKDE | looks like : |
| 20:43.31 | ArchAntergosKDE | [Containments][2][Wallpaper][org.kde.image][General] |
| 20:43.45 | ArchAntergosKDE | oh I see when you locked widgets |
| 20:46.26 | ArchAntergosKDE | hmm actually that file is a bit confusing there are instances of the current wallpaper all over |
| 20:46.39 | ArchAntergosKDE | is there a guide somewhere for reading this file |
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