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| 00:21.53 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.12 and KDE Applications 18.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
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| 00:36.52 | fs0ciety | hi guys just wondering if there is a way to add padding to Konsole. Just so the text has padding at all margins? Is this possible with Konsole? |
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| 00:54.15 | SporkWitch | anyone else run into an issue with invisible system tray and taskbar entries? Some applications show, but others are invisible. Mousing over where they should be shows the preview, clicking interacts normally, but the icons themselves aren't shown. This is happening with third-party applications as well as bundled, such as System Settings and Dolphin |
| 00:54.37 | SporkWitch | no luck googling, just results for small icons, not missing ones |
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| 02:16.42 | SporkWitch | Anyone else running into an issue with panels not updating? After some time running, nothing on a panel (taskbar, system tray, clock) updates, it just freezes in its current state. Everything can still be interacted with, tooltips appear, popouts work, etc., it just stops actually showing anything new on the panel itself (eg mousing over a blank space next to an app shows the app that was loaded |
| 02:18.35 | SporkWitch | Looking around, it might be related to the compositor being disabled when i launched something in wine. Resizing the panel causes it to update and continue to update. |
| 02:19.10 | SporkWitch | Possible regression related to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353983 |
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| 07:55.59 | pihpah | What's the default terminal program in KDE Plasma 5? Can't find any. |
| 07:56.09 | pihpah | No xterm, no Konsole |
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| 08:00.31 | tosky | pihpah: the set of released packages which makes up Plasma does not include a terminal |
| 08:00.54 | tosky | pihpah: the KDE community produces Konsole, which is shipped as part of the bundle called KDE Applications |
| 08:01.03 | tosky | not sure why you wrote "no Konsole" though |
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| 08:04.54 | paddy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:11.21 | scx | Hello |
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| 08:12.20 | tosky | paddy: uhm, skype is really an web browser wrapper disguised as standalone program, created with a tool called Electron, so it may be an issue on its side |
| 08:13.11 | scx | Does org.kde.Platform provides python module? I don't see it. Should I intall Python 3 on my own? Is there any example how to build python-qt5 application? |
| 08:13.13 | lod__ | isn't there a new "real client"? |
| 08:13.47 | scx | [flatpak] |
| 08:14.54 | Tuju | if syslog has entries with string 'eter', what that means? |
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| 08:15.12 | Tuju | dolphin(16661)/(default) eter |
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| 08:16.51 | Tuju | I've feeling that at some point something truncated those log entries, maybe 'eter' is part of some word |
| 08:17.31 | tosky | lod__: it's that one (electron); the old one was native |
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| 09:38.10 | CaptainCrunch | On this boot of Arch, KDE all latest, allmost all my Desktop settings are gone. widgets, statusbar, background, settings. Shortcuts and autostart still work. Something deleted that. Never happened before. Is this a known thing? |
| 09:38.56 | CaptainCrunch | *There were no recent kde updates between boots |
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| 11:04.44 | johnny5 | I have an issue with discover...on first running it, I get this error: parley.knsrc: error initializing provider |
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| 11:05.18 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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| 11:11.00 | johnny5 | I have an issue with discover...on first running it, I get this error: parley.knsrc: error initializing provider ... I'm running Plasma v. 5.12.5 on Arch x64 |
| 11:11.18 | johnny5 | following that, I can search but nothing will install (it just sits at 0%) |
| 11:11.30 | johnny5 | installing via pacman (on the commannd line) works fine |
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| 11:18.59 | Mayzie | johnny5: Have you installed packagekit-qt5? |
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| 11:22.25 | johnny5 | mayzie: yes |
| 11:23.29 | Mayzie | No clue then, sorry. It works fine for me on Arch. |
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| 12:31.05 | MessedUpHare | johnny5: try running it from the cli with plasma-discover |
| 12:31.11 | MessedUpHare | that might tell you what's wrong |
| 12:31.24 | johnny5 | ok, one moment |
| 12:32.19 | johnny5 | got a lot of things...the first thing is that it can't open flatpak-backend ("no such file or directory") |
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| 12:34.29 | MessedUpHare | that's an optional backend (it depends if you want to use flatpak or not, shouldnt be essential) |
| 12:35.30 | johnny5 | ok |
| 12:35.47 | johnny5 | next, I get a couple missing config groups (ksysguard.knsrc and servicemenu.knsrc) |
| 12:36.02 | MessedUpHare | i've got that too - and mine works |
| 12:36.14 | johnny5 | alright |
| 12:36.16 | MessedUpHare | I wonder if they've somehow made the optional dependancy of flatpak, required |
| 12:36.30 | johnny5 | it nets sets the backend to PackageKitBackend |
| 12:36.51 | MessedUpHare | so does mine.. |
| 12:37.03 | MessedUpHare | does searching in the GUI still not work? |
| 12:37.10 | johnny5 | then StaticXmlProvider: neither uploadurl nor nouploadurl given |
| 12:37.30 | johnny5 | then kns error: "/etc/xdg/kwordquiz.knsrc" "Error initializing provider" |
| 12:37.42 | johnny5 | then I get the same error for a bunch of other .knsrc files |
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| 12:39.14 | johnny5 | then a bunch of type errors |
| 12:39.44 | johnny5 | then a time-out trying to load from data.kstuff.org/cgi-bin/hotstuff-provider?site=kalzium |
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| 12:41.54 | MessedUpHare | Are you on some sort of restricted internet connectivity? |
| 12:42.03 | MessedUpHare | library/univercity/corp? |
| 12:42.14 | johnny5 | nope |
| 12:42.25 | johnny5 | and using pacman through the CLI works fine |
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| 12:44.03 | MessedUpHare | looks to me like it's most likely not being able to get to it's plugin provider url |
| 12:44.17 | MessedUpHare | i'm not sure what protocol/port it'l be trying to use, though |
| 12:44.53 | tosky | johnny5: kstuff.org is long gone; do you have an old version of those applications? |
| 12:45.28 | johnny5 | tosky: nope...this is a fresh arch install (installed plasma on wednesday) |
| 12:45.42 | tosky | uh |
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| 12:46.08 | tosky | let me check one thing |
| 12:46.08 | johnny5 | is there a way to update where plasma is looking for things? |
| 12:46.38 | tosky | it's not plasma |
| 12:46.50 | tosky | this is each application defining its own provider |
| 12:47.06 | tosky | also, kalzium, kwordquiz and so on are not part of Plasma |
| 12:47.34 | johnny5 | gotcha |
| 12:49.52 | MessedUpHare | unless you really want them, i'd remove kdeedu and kdegames groups - sudo pacman -R kdeedu kdegames |
| 12:50.33 | johnny5 | haha yeah, no problem doing that |
| 12:50.37 | tosky | but even with that error, it should not impact discover functionality |
| 12:50.52 | MessedUpHare | that much is true... |
| 12:50.55 | johnny5 | that cleared out a lot of the errors |
| 12:51.13 | MessedUpHare | but it might make us able to "see the wood for the trees" |
| 12:51.23 | johnny5 | now I get an invalid backend for ksysguard.knsrc and servicemenu.knsrc, which are then discarded, and that's it |
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| 12:53.09 | johnny5 | going to try installing something |
| 12:53.10 | MessedUpHare | what do you get if you go to the "settings" page |
| 12:53.33 | johnny5 | shows the 3 main arch repositories, plus flatpak |
| 12:53.43 | MessedUpHare | .. that's good |
| 12:54.12 | johnny5 | so this is interesting...trying to install something, I'm getting Qt errors |
| 12:54.21 | johnny5 | file:///usr/lib/qt/qml/QtQuick/Controls.2/org.kde.desktop/ToolBar.qml:37: ReferenceError: is is not defined |
| 12:58.17 | johnny5 | so I think what's happening is that it's actually working, but it's not updating the status/percentage |
| 12:58.32 | johnny5 | 'cause it's gone from "installing 0%" back to "installed" |
| 12:58.45 | johnny5 | and the program installed |
| 13:00.28 | MessedUpHare | so now it works - and you can go about ignoring it and just using pacman like all the rest of us |
| 13:00.55 | tosky | or help fixing the packagekit backend for arch :) |
| 13:01.07 | johnny5 | lol |
| 13:01.42 | johnny5 | well, thanks very much for the help! |
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| 14:22.57 | scx | Hi. Is there any app in KDE that use Qt5 and Python3? |
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| 14:23.28 | scx | I am looking for example json file for flatpak. |
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| 14:28.35 | scx | I already cloned this: git://anongit.kde.org/flatpak-kde-applications |
| 14:29.01 | scx | but not found any json, that has something to do with python or py.*qt :/ |
| 14:29.53 | scx | Does KDE have any PyQt5 app? |
| 14:31.14 | demm_ | scx: krita uses PyQt5 |
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| 14:33.18 | demm_ | scx: openshot uses Qt5 & PyQt5 & has a flatpak |
| 14:33.23 | scx | demm_: Are you sure? https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=13729555 |
| 14:33.54 | demm_ | scx: yes, I'm sure, it is not mandatory yet, but it certainly uses it |
| 14:34.16 | scx | demm_: ok, openshot is fine |
| 14:34.21 | scx | thanks for help |
| 14:34.31 | demm_ | scx: see https://github.com/KDE/krita/blob/master/cmake/modules/FindPyQt5.cmake |
| 14:35.05 | scx | it even have sip and pyqt modules. It is what i am looking for: https://github.com/flathub/org.openshot.OpenShot/blob/master/org.openshot.OpenShot.json |
| 14:35.18 | scx | has* |
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| 15:03.38 | OnkelTem | KwalleetManager stopped working on Ubuntu 17.10 after todays update |
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| 15:07.25 | OnkelTem | When I run 'kwalletmanager' it takes ages before its window appear |
| 15:07.36 | OnkelTem | then it's empty. I cannot do anything there |
| 15:07.42 | grahamperrin[m] | Dolphin on FreeBSD-CURRENT, I can connect to some SMB servers but not others. |
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| 15:08.01 | grahamperrin[m] | There's an immediate 'Timeout on server' banner in Dolphin. |
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| 15:08.41 | grahamperrin[m] | Any ideas? (I Googled, can't find anything quite like this.) |
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| 15:09.41 | mike-zal | OnkelTem: open kwalletmanager through terminal and see what issue is there, google it, something is missing in your installation or kwalletmanager is corrupted. |
| 15:09.43 | fs0ciety | hi guys was wondering if its possible to pad the outer area of konsole. is this possible |
| 15:09.59 | OnkelTem | mike-zal: there is not info in there terminal |
| 15:10.12 | OnkelTem | Only one message is there: Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) |
| 15:10.34 | OnkelTem | Then I created a new wallet and now it just doens't respond |
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| 15:43.34 | scx | Flatpak offer KDE Platform (Runtime and SDK) in two version: 5.9 and 5.10. However, latest KDE release is 5.45. That means, that flatpak runtime/sdk is pretty old, right? Or I am missing something? |
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| 16:38.17 | o_a | Hello, all. I'm running the latest Kubuntu on Wayland (I think it's Plasma 5.12.4 or .5), and it seems to work fine, but there's a weird problem: pressing any dead key brings up krunner. Can anyone confirm this? |
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| 18:04.28 | lsd_ | whats the channel related to most important thing aka plasma |
| 18:04.33 | lsd_ | kde-plasma? |
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| 19:56.47 | sav | hello all. is it possible to find here Developers of Falkon Browser? |
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| 22:09.30 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.12 and KDE Applications 18.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
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| 22:12.59 | muesli | hey rindolf |
| 22:13.57 | rindolf | muesli: perhaps try a mailing list\ |
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