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| 00:36.09 | anarcho | Hello! How do I install a header theme in kmail? Thanks! |
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| 05:12.07 | icobgr | HI |
| 05:12.22 | icobgr | I have an issue with KMail 5.4.3 |
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| 05:15.34 | icobgr | there are some mails shown as new but when I select them I only see "Retrieving Folder Contents" |
| 05:15.46 | icobgr | and after that no mail I can see. |
| 05:15.51 | icobgr | only this. |
| 05:16.17 | icobgr | if a restart akonadi I can see other mails. But again those couple mails aonvokes same issue |
| 05:16.36 | icobgr | and I could not delete them because I have to select email to delete it. |
| 05:17.31 | icobgr | I have tried to delete entire folder content (where have such mails and other mails are not important) but delete does not happen |
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| 11:46.52 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 13:54.35 | Wazhai | Hey, I'm having a 100% repro plasma crash but some others don't, can you guys try it and tell me if anyone else gets a crash? I'm on Plasma 5.12.4. Steps: Open system tray settings (right click arrow in tray) > entries > change the visibility of something > press OK > crash |
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| 13:56.10 | Wazhai | https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/PyErkQ4Gx~SR1GUi5NI8NQ |
| 13:56.28 | Wazhai | I'm having some ??s even though I thought all the debug packages are installed |
| 13:57.29 | Wazhai | I was told "crash seems to be happening down in QV4, which uses a JIT, which unfortunately makes debugging difficult (the backtrace is indeed unhelpful regardless of -debuginfo)" |
| 13:57.50 | Wazhai | "may be worth reporting to bugs.kde.org (at least if it's reproducible)" |
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| 13:59.42 | Wazhai | Could this be the cause? "706 ../../include/QtQml/5.9.4/QtQml/private/../../../../../src/qml/qml/qqmlpropertycache_p.h: No such file or directory." |
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| 14:06.07 | Fuchs | Wazhai: known, in Qt |
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| 14:08.02 | Wazhai | ok, so already reported? I didn't look thoroughly |
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| 14:12.15 | Wazhai | and thx :) |
| 14:12.38 | Wazhai | this should be it https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-51525 |
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| 14:34.40 | franklin | I was wondering if it is a known issue that sometimes I can't copy-and-paste between konsole and firefox. openSUSE Tumbleweed, konsole 17.12.3, firefox 59.0.2. If I paste from konsole to kate or anything else first, then copy from kate, I can paste to firefox. |
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| 14:57.58 | Wazhai | is there a way to set the window drag mode of gtk applications to titlebar only? The setting in widget style is specific to KDE |
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| 17:03.19 | hebnem | I just had a terrible time trying to copy files from a samsung phone using standard usb/mtp. Finally found a post from over a year ago that shows the fix: source and dest windows need to be in the same instance window. This seems like it should be fixed. Can't ascertain whether it's covered by another bug report |
| 17:03.28 | hebnem | post in question: https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=119160 |
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| 17:30.11 | kishore96 | hebnem: If you can reproduce this reliably, you should file a bug here: https://bugs.kde.org/ |
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| 19:02.48 | ktecho | topic needs update to reflext kde applications 18.04. |
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| 19:31.55 | lsd | which disto has best connection suport team or w/e with kde team ? |
| 19:32.21 | lsd | kubuntu its obsolete , with major taskbar bug |
| 19:32.28 | lsd | debian still ? |
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| 19:35.17 | lsd | mint saying its last release with kde |
| 19:35.19 | lsd | so where to go |
| 19:36.29 | philectro | https://neon.kde.org/ |
| 19:36.39 | philectro | I don't know if that's reliable for daily use tho' |
| 19:36.44 | lsd | dont want to go back to paleoit with other guis |
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| 19:40.37 | lsd | testing will make it useful for daily use |
| 19:40.39 | lsd | :) |
| 19:41.11 | Scytale89 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:42.45 | lsd | last question this neon has 1 click button where u can switch drivers from open to closed? |
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| 19:43.59 | Scytale89 | you mean driver installation? |
| 19:44.37 | Scytale89 | as it's base is Ubuntu "ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" works for all available drivers |
| 19:44.38 | hebnem | lsd: try Manjaro? |
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| 19:46.00 | oprypin | i mean... compared to neon is probably an upgrade, but .... no |
| 19:46.37 | valorie | lsd: what "major taskbar bug" in Kubuntu? |
| 19:47.00 | valorie | I'm the release manager for Kubuntu and don't recall any conversation about such a bug? |
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| 19:48.39 | lsd | https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=268045 |
| 19:48.53 | lsd | just step back to follow situation |
| 19:49.01 | tosky | Scytale89: KDE Neon and Debian testing covers different use cases |
| 19:49.19 | lsd | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393151 |
| 19:49.22 | lsd | orginal one |
| 19:49.25 | tosky | lsd: we have packagers for all distribution around, so this question is not going to get a lot of proper answers here |
| 19:49.49 | tosky | lsd: my suggestion is to focus on resolving specific bugs, especially if they shows only on some distribution because they use older packages |
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| 20:54.55 | E5ten[m] | plasma won't work for me at all on 4.15 or 4.16, like booting into my usual kde-openbox session leaves me with just the openbox session, and normal plasma leaves a black screen with a cursor, ditto for sddm. I think the issue might be related to nouveau, but the prop drivers don't work for me so I can't test, has anyone heard of or had a similar issue and knows of a possible fix? |
| 20:56.11 | oprypin | what exactly is this 4.15? |
| 20:57.31 | E5ten[m] | oh sorry, kernel version |
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| 21:40.06 | jankusanagi_ | but you can boot with an older version of Linux, can't you? |
| 21:40.33 | jankusanagi_ | Nouveau works great here with Linux 4.14.x |
| 21:42.06 | jalcine | lsd: it's not a bug, there's a high chance this was fixed in a later version |
| 21:42.10 | jalcine | oh they're gone |
| 21:42.12 | jalcine | >_< |
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| 21:46.15 | E5ten[m] | I'm here, and that's what I'm doing right now, using the lts kernel |
| 21:46.20 | E5ten[m] | but I don't want to do that |
| 21:46.58 | E5ten[m] | I want to use the up to date kernel, which is why I was asking if anyone had solutions, booting with an older kernel isn't a solution, it's a band-aid |
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| 21:47.55 | oprypin | "prop drivers don't work for me" is a pretty bad problem |
| 21:48.05 | oprypin | might as well just throw away the gpu |
| 21:48.12 | oprypin | i dont see that claim often |
| 21:49.02 | E5ten[m] | I'd use a better computer and GPU if I could |
| 21:49.50 | E5ten[m] | not an option currently, and the prop drivers *really* don't work, like I'm forced to use 340xx, and I got past one problem but the second one had 3 solutions online and none of them worked |
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| 21:50.08 | oprypin | maybe you can use the integrated GPU, if any? |
| 21:50.57 | oprypin | i mean at this point the culprit is pretty obvious, it's the old gpu forgotten by maintainers |
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| 21:58.52 | E5ten[m] | yeah see that's the problem, this abomination is a macbook air from 2010, with an *nvidia iGPU* |
| 21:59.07 | oprypin | E5ten[m], should've started with that |
| 21:59.28 | oprypin | then we could just give up without trying |
| 21:59.39 | E5ten[m] | :( |
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| 22:00.26 | oprypin | so yeah, using the lts kernel should be the least of your worries |
| 22:00.38 | oprypin | to extend the life of this for another year and move on |
| 22:02.43 | E5ten[m] | I might be stuck with it for more than a year sadly |
| 22:02.59 | E5ten[m] | I just don't understand why it works with an older kernel when nouveau and mesa etc. stay the same |
| 22:03.17 | oprypin | but they don't stay the same |
| 22:03.30 | oprypin | nouveau is in the kernel |
| 22:05.52 | E5ten[m] | then what's the separate package for https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?name=xf86-video-nouveau? |
| 22:08.14 | oprypin | E5ten[m], i looked it up and it seems like it's basically a way of using nouveau for 2d rendering in xorg |
| 22:09.39 | E5ten[m] | oh |
| 22:09.51 | jankusanagi_ | nouveau has several pieces, in Mesa, in Linux, and the Xorg DDX driver |
| 22:11.14 | jankusanagi_ | and I doubt support for your old card is being dropped from Nouveau |
| 22:11.16 | E5ten[m] | then I guess I have to find out what version of it switched to not working for me and look for similar issues |
| 22:11.26 | oprypin | yeah maybe worth reporting |
| 22:11.32 | jankusanagi_ | can't you use Linux 4.14? |
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| 22:12.51 | E5ten[m] | I don't want to |
| 22:13.12 | E5ten[m] | obviously I can, but if I'm able to find the issue and fix it I'd greatly prefer that |
| 22:13.28 | jankusanagi_ | well, I meant in the meantime |
| 22:13.53 | jankusanagi_ | because finding the problem, reporting it, getting it fixed and getting the fix to you, won't be a matter of a couple of days... |
| 22:15.09 | E5ten[m] | I've been using 4.14 since 4.15 hit repos, I can wait |
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| 22:57.23 | dh--_ | So I just tried to install kde neon and the installation froze at 93%, kde was unresponsive except for the installer window but pretty sure it was hung after waiting 20 minutes. |
| 22:59.28 | dh--_ | last status message: Restoring previously installed packages... 93% |
| 23:00.19 | oprypin | install Arch, it doesnt hang during installation |
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| 23:18.00 | jankusanagi_ | #kde-neon |
| 23:19.34 | dh--_ | oh, thanks |
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