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| 00:18.30 | demlak | hi.. i want to have a two users with own desktop for each users logged in parallel. then i want to switch between those users and i want also a possibility to login via vnc to those two users.. both users should run simultaneously after systemboot. is this possible with kde? |
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| 00:29.53 | jankusanagi_ | I don't think that's up to Plasma |
| 00:29.58 | jankusanagi_ | more like a feature of X11 |
| 00:31.10 | jankusanagi_ | or rather, a feature of GNU |
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| 09:34.01 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
| 09:35.32 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 11:33.44 | JanKusanagi | "Expand search to bookmarks, files and emails" |
| 11:34.18 | JanKusanagi | assuming "application bar" means application menu, or application launcher :D |
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| 15:44.01 | Red_M | anyone able to help with a hard crash? |
| 15:44.17 | Red_M | I wasn't getting this on GNOME but I am now on Plasma |
| 15:44.56 | JanKusanagi | what's crashing? |
| 15:45.08 | Red_M | After a peroid of time my laptop completely freezes and is even unresonive to raising the elephant |
| 15:45.16 | Red_M | *unresponsive |
| 15:45.27 | Red_M | the screen is turned off |
| 15:45.39 | Red_M | as if the tty screne blank turned on |
| 15:45.53 | Red_M | but I have KDE and tty screen blanking turned off |
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| 15:46.49 | Red_M | I'm on debian |
| 15:47.19 | Red_M | KDE 5.8.6 |
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| 15:51.51 | JanKusanagi | Plasma 5.8.6 |
| 15:52.36 | JanKusanagi | so this happens after some time, even if you're actively using it? |
| 15:53.14 | Red_M | after the screen somehow powers off |
| 15:53.21 | Red_M | eg, closed lid |
| 15:53.27 | asturm | can you still ssh into it? |
| 15:53.31 | Red_M | nope |
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| 15:53.35 | Red_M | no network |
| 15:53.40 | Red_M | no tty switching |
| 15:53.48 | Red_M | no REISUB |
| 15:54.11 | Red_M | RJ45 doesn't even pick up a DHCP lease |
| 15:54.19 | JanKusanagi | Nvidia, Intel? |
| 15:54.22 | Red_M | yeap |
| 15:54.26 | Red_M | optimus |
| 15:54.30 | JanKusanagi | ah, so both |
| 15:54.34 | oprypin | xD |
| 15:54.35 | Red_M | with bumblebee |
| 15:54.35 | asturm | the cancer... |
| 15:54.42 | JanKusanagi | using which one, and which driver? |
| 15:54.44 | Red_M | properly configured |
| 15:54.53 | Red_M | should be on the Intel |
| 15:55.06 | Red_M | the nV card never kicks in unless I tell it to |
| 15:55.39 | Red_M | Intel driver iirc |
| 15:56.09 | Red_M | Mesa |
| 15:56.15 | Red_M | my apologies |
| 15:57.22 | JanKusanagi | so it stops responding when you close the lid, or when you open it up again? |
| 15:57.33 | Red_M | a time after closing the lid |
| 15:57.50 | Red_M | ssh sessions drop |
| 15:58.05 | Red_M | and the kernel log on disk shows no errors |
| 15:59.31 | JanKusanagi | you could try temporarily disabling compositing (alt+shift+f12) before closing the lid |
| 15:59.37 | oprypin | Red_M, regarding "I wasn't getting this on GNOME but I am now on Plasma" - is this also a different install? |
| 16:00.42 | Red_M | same install of debian 9.4 stable |
| 16:00.57 | Red_M | JanKusanagi: I'll give that a go |
| 16:01.57 | oprypin | Red_M, is this an old Lenovo laptop? are you using UEFI? |
| 16:02.27 | Red_M | W520 with UEFI |
| 16:02.49 | oprypin | yep sounds like it fits the bill |
| 16:03.05 | asturm | it's not going to standby, by chance? |
| 16:03.11 | oprypin | that's what i was thinking |
| 16:03.22 | oprypin | closing the lid sends it to sleep, but have you tried explicitly sending it to sleep? |
| 16:03.41 | oprypin | and then can it ever wake up? |
| 16:03.47 | Red_M | I don't have that configuredsaasdassas |
| 16:03.47 | Red_M | ~OA |
| 16:03.52 | Red_M | feck |
| 16:04.05 | Red_M | I don't allow the lid switch to do anything |
| 16:04.13 | oprypin | that's what you think |
| 16:04.17 | Red_M | no |
| 16:04.19 | oprypin | Red_M, Suspend should still work |
| 16:04.26 | Red_M | I can close it for 5 minutes and its fine |
| 16:04.38 | Red_M | but longer peroids seems to kill it |
| 16:04.43 | oprypin | ok please just Suspend on the laptop and let me know if waking up works |
| 16:04.51 | Red_M | but sleep and suspend work |
| 16:04.59 | Red_M | I actually use suspend a lot |
| 16:05.05 | oprypin | cool cool, then nevermind me |
| 16:05.12 | Red_M | but I'll give them a go again anyway |
| 16:06.01 | Red_M | Suspend works fine |
| 16:07.51 | Red_M | Hibernate as well |
| 16:08.40 | Red_M | asturm: no, it does not respond to any keystrokes or button presses other than a hard shutdown |
| 16:09.39 | Red_M | what is really odd is that I switch to a tty, close the lid, leave for hours and come back, then it is fine |
| 16:09.52 | Red_M | I do the same thing while on KDE and it hard crashes |
| 16:10.57 | oprypin | Red_M, i had this problem for a long time: when suspending or turning off my laptop, it would turn off the screen and stay fully powered but completely unresponsive. the fix? reinstall in non-UEFI mode. so if you get desperate, that's what you can try. |
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| 16:11.24 | Red_M | I do have an exactly same sized SSD that I could try this on |
| 16:11.50 | Red_M | I kinda like the UEFI |
| 16:12.10 | pinaraf | whaaaaa, first time I see someone saying that :) |
| 16:12.16 | Red_M | well |
| 16:12.18 | Red_M | GPT |
| 16:12.37 | oprypin | pinaraf, is buggy firmware |
| 16:12.43 | pinaraf | more seriously, I understand, the BIOS was no longer usable, but UEFI is definitely not going the right way :( |
| 16:13.17 | asturm | Red_M: GPT is not related to UEFI at all |
| 16:13.36 | Red_M | Can't boot from GPT in BIOS iirc |
| 16:13.45 | asturm | my X200s was happily booting from GPT with a regular BIOS. |
| 16:13.50 | Red_M | huh |
| 16:13.55 | oprypin | asturm, in the year 2011 it was :D |
| 16:13.57 | Red_M | its been a while |
| 16:14.02 | oprypin | see: buggy firmware |
| 16:14.13 | pinaraf | Red_M: it was mostly a windows restriction |
| 16:14.25 | pinaraf | microsoft said «GPT implies UEFI» |
| 16:14.39 | asturm | oprypin: that would be around the same generation as W520 |
| 16:14.41 | Red_M | I'll try a reinstall on this other SSD if turning off the compositor doesn't fix it |
| 16:15.02 | Red_M | well |
| 16:15.05 | oprypin | i have no idea what the compositor could have in common |
| 16:15.51 | Red_M | reinstall in BIOS, I did slightly screw up moving my OS over from the old HDD since it was slightly larger |
| 16:16.10 | Red_M | and moving luks partitions is no fun |
| 16:16.19 | Red_M | well |
| 16:16.21 | pinaraf | use the --force, luks |
| 16:16.25 | pinaraf | (sorry, I had toâ¦) |
| 16:16.29 | Red_M | shrinking them |
| 16:16.36 | Red_M | then copying them |
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| 16:18.33 | Red_M | anyway, I'll ask a bit more later if this suggestion doesn't fix it |
| 16:18.42 | Red_M | it is late and I need sleep |
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| 16:22.08 | asturm | pinaraf: yeah you can't use dual boot then. but who cares |
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| 16:43.50 | Tomasu | lots of overwriting and misplacing of characters goign on.. but running the thing inside tmux "fixes" it |
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| 16:59.05 | minot | btw what happened to the dragon? |
| 16:59.15 | minot | konqi I think? |
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| 17:01.28 | gallaecio | I want to report an issue with the community.kde.org â phabricator.kde.org integration. |
| 17:01.28 | gallaecio | Which component should I choose in bugs.kde.org? |
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| 17:07.48 | JanKusanagi | nothing happened to Konqi AFAIK |
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| 17:19.02 | BCMM | Konqi got redesigned in 2013. The KF5 version of Konqi was drawn in Krita, which is kind of nice. |
| 17:19.15 | BCMM | he's still there in About dialogs |
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| 17:20.15 | minot | (: |
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| 18:32.04 | amukherjee | Hi! I just switched to KDE with Plasma 5.12.3 on Arch, right? I'm having an issue where hitting super-tab to switch activities works, but if I let go of the key combo too quickly, the pane on the left side of the screen stays open and it's excessively difficult to close (without just super-tab'ing out and into the activity again, and slowly releasing the button) |
| 18:32.11 | amukherjee | Anyone seen that before? |
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| 18:32.38 | amukherjee | the pane being the activity list pane |
| 18:34.24 | amukherjee | I did do a small customization in the settings to make animations faster... maybe it's playing with that... let me revert that and see |
| 18:35.00 | amukherjee | yep... that was it |
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| 18:35.35 | amukherjee | nevermind, spoke too soon |
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| 18:38.34 | ShalokShalom | there is a translation bug in Dolphin |
| 18:38.34 | ShalokShalom | Unlock toolbar = Lock toolbar |
| 18:38.35 | ShalokShalom | German |
| 18:38.46 | ShalokShalom | good night |
| 18:39.26 | asturm | great... |
| 18:39.52 | amukherjee | welp, dropped activities and switched to virtual desktops. solved my problem (shrug) |
| 18:39.57 | amukherjee | sorry for the spam |
| 18:40.16 | jankusanagi_ | I wouldn't call that spam :D |
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| 18:40.45 | amukherjee | eh, it ended up being me talking to myself :P |
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| 19:54.51 | emimull | Hi. I have some problems with my keyboard. Not sure if this is KDE-related. Anyhow, I bought an american laptop, set my keyboard layout to Norwegian. Now, in Norwegian, there's usually the > and < keys to the right of the bottom-left shift key. On the American keyboard, these ones are missing, so I have no way of typing them. Is it possible to add a custom definition, e.g. fn + z types '<'? |
| 19:56.42 | oprypin | emimull, specifically for "fn": no |
| 19:57.11 | emimull | i would be willing to accept alt + z :) |
| 19:57.52 | emimull | or even shift + z (as i rarely start a sentence with Z) |
| 19:58.00 | oprypin | better just switch to US layout lol |
| 19:58.13 | emimull | but then i can't write æøå :) |
| 19:58.46 | oprypin | that would be alt+q alt+l alt+w |
| 19:58.57 | oprypin | anyway |
| 19:59.10 | oprypin | emimull, have you tried the key that has | \ on it? what does it produce |
| 20:00.06 | oprypin | anyhow... Custom Shortcuts > Edit > New > Global Shortcut > Send Keyboard Input and off you go |
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| 20:07.07 | emimull | Uhm, adding the action '>' produces '<', the opposite :O |
| 20:07.48 | genterminl | kmymoney-9999.ebuild has EGIT_BRANCH="5.0" when I would expect it would be master. Is this a typo, or do I miss something? |
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| 20:08.36 | genterminl | kmymoney-5.0.9999.ebuild seems identical, but this makes sense to have branch 5.0. |
| 20:09.45 | oprypin | emimull, you're correct. it presses the same button that you press but without shift :p |
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| 20:09.56 | oprypin | emimull, so make it "Shift+<" |
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| 20:13.25 | asturm | genterminl: fixed, even though you reported in the wrong channel :p |
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| 20:15.44 | genterminl | asturm - sorry - where should I have reported, so I get it right next time? |
| 20:15.59 | asturm | genterminl: #gentoo-kde of course ;) |
| 20:16.12 | asturm | thanks for reporting |
| 20:16.17 | genterminl | oops. |
| 20:16.41 | genterminl | It drove me crazy for a while because a patch proposed on the KMM mailing list wasn't applying, and I couldn't figure out why :-) |
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| 20:34.31 | JyZyXEL | i wonder if it could be possible to have different taskbar icons for firefox/chrome running on different profiles |
| 20:34.53 | j605 | sure |
| 20:35.04 | j605 | just use different .desktop files for them |
| 20:35.22 | j605 | and you can specify Icon in the file |
| 20:35.46 | j605 | I use different icons for netflix, normal and nightly profiles :) |
| 20:36.08 | JyZyXEL | wow that's really cool if it really works like that |
| 20:39.49 | JyZyXEL | nope, works like i expected, it uses the default mozilla firefox icon in the taskmanager |
| 20:40.03 | JyZyXEL | the Icon is just for the desktop file itself |
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| 20:44.56 | JyZyXEL | i think you would need to have actual different firefox binaries |
| 20:47.44 | j605 | I think that is built into the binary, check xprop |
| 20:49.09 | JyZyXEL | oh yeah, it is |
| 20:50.08 | JyZyXEL | some kind of wrapper program that changes it, could exist |
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| 23:29.10 | andreb | good day all. |
| 23:29.27 | andreb | i am having issues with dnsmaq not ignoring an inerface i want it to listen too |
| 23:29.31 | andreb | can anyone help ? |
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