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| 04:39.56 | la_putin_ | god wtf i change my berightness once and kde starts freaking out |
| 04:40.04 | la_putin_ | brightness* |
| 04:41.23 | la_putin_ | wtf it keeps reverting to low brightness |
| 04:44.07 | la_putin_ | changes it directly in power management |
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| 05:01.00 | epicmetal | Why is indexing disabled for a bunch of files I've told baloo to index? |
| 05:01.43 | epicmetal | e.g. pdfs in a folder that is explicitly specified in folders[$e] of baloofilerc |
| 05:02.11 | epicmetal | i've tried deleting the database and forcing reindexing. laptop is on ac. balooctl status says it is running and idle. |
| 05:02.15 | epicmetal | is this just buggy software or what |
| 05:02.43 | epicmetal | Can't figure out what I'm not doing |
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| 05:04.32 | epicmetal | Or is there a decent alternative to baloo |
| 05:04.45 | epicmetal | I'm basically at the point where if I can't get this working I have to ditch KDE again |
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| 07:23.19 | epicmetal | help me #kde, don't let me fall back to the Dark Side (TM) |
| 07:23.43 | epicmetal | does Vader breathing |
| 07:33.54 | Zren | epicmetal, does balooctl index /path/to/file work? |
| 07:34.40 | Zren | Toss up another terminal with `balooctl monitor` first too. |
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| 07:36.40 | epicmetal | Zren: balooctl index foo tells me "file(s) indexed", but nothing showed up in the "balooctl monitor" session. A subsequent "balooctl status foo" tells me that context indexing is done |
| 07:37.25 | Zren | `baloosearch filename` shows the file right? |
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| 07:38.15 | epicmetal | Zren: is it supposed to output something? All I get is "Elapsed: 1.xxx secs" |
| 07:39.52 | epicmetal | Zren: "balooctl status" says it has indexed 183/183 files but I have told it to index way more than that, even when allowing for the default filter |
| 07:40.20 | epicmetal | it just seems broken, like it just can't get through a certain percentage of its indexing job |
| 07:40.28 | epicmetal | and yeah, no output for the baloosearch |
| 07:43.20 | Zren | epicmetal, `baloosearch type:Document` show anything? |
| 07:44.03 | epicmetal | Zren: something like 9 documents |
| 07:44.17 | epicmetal | the tree in question has over 2600 files |
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| 07:44.51 | Zren | Toss up the monitor again, then try `balooctl check` |
| 07:45.51 | epicmetal | it is apparently indexing files. but i've done this before and it doesn't get the whole tree |
| 07:45.57 | epicmetal | let's see what happens this time |
| 07:47.03 | epicmetal | i've got a watch -n1 -- balooctl status running in the other window too |
| 07:47.17 | epicmetal | "indexing file content" "183/183 files" |
| 07:47.26 | epicmetal | not sure where it is getting this bizarre 183 number |
| 07:47.33 | epicmetal | it should say 2600+ |
| 07:47.51 | Zren | `baloosearch filename:.pdf` should find the pdfs btw |
| 07:48.05 | epicmetal | baloofilerc has folders[$e]=$HOME/.thingy/foo |
| 07:48.10 | epicmetal | i.e. the 2600 |
| 07:48.35 | Zren | aaaah |
| 07:48.46 | Zren | It's in a hidden folder |
| 07:48.49 | epicmetal | it gives me 4 pdfs |
| 07:48.58 | epicmetal | Zren: but it does some of it |
| 07:49.00 | epicmetal | just not all of it |
| 07:49.12 | epicmetal | i can't move the stuff out of the hidden because reasonos |
| 07:49.14 | epicmetal | reasons* |
| 07:49.30 | epicmetal | and just having folders[$e]=$HOME doesn't work. and i don't want to index *all* hidden files |
| 07:49.32 | Zren | https://community.kde.org/Baloo/Configuration |
| 07:49.43 | epicmetal | i've read that, what am i missing |
| 07:49.51 | Zren | index hidden folders=true ? |
| 07:50.05 | epicmetal | no, but it already is indexing *some* of the things in the hidden folder that i've explicitly told it to index |
| 07:50.11 | epicmetal | so how can it index some |
| 07:50.13 | epicmetal | but not the rest |
| 07:50.46 | Zren | were those the files manually added via `balooctl index filepath`? |
| 07:50.53 | epicmetal | some, not all |
| 07:51.00 | epicmetal | there's one i can see that i definitely never manually added |
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| 07:51.36 | epicmetal | 2 of 4 shown PDFs were manually added, the other 2 weren't |
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| 07:52.34 | Zren | `balooctl config ls hidden` |
| 07:52.45 | epicmetal | "no" |
| 07:53.36 | epicmetal | i could theoretically change a code dependency and move it out of the hidden dir, come to think of it |
| 07:53.46 | epicmetal | it's kinda gross though |
| 07:53.50 | epicmetal | i'd rather just fix baloo |
| 07:54.01 | epicmetal | but at this point i'm desperate |
| 07:54.13 | Zren | Try and let it index hidden folders.. |
| 07:54.25 | epicmetal | ok one sec |
| 07:55.46 | epicmetal | Zren: the "indexed x / y files" count is sane now for y |
| 07:56.06 | epicmetal | how on earth did it partially index the hidden dir without this setting though |
| 07:56.13 | epicmetal | seems bizarre |
| 07:56.33 | Zren | Maybe it scanned 1 file before realizing it shouldn't? |
| 07:56.40 | epicmetal | it was more than one |
| 07:56.44 | epicmetal | it was like 100 in total |
| 07:56.46 | Zren | iunno |
| 07:57.09 | epicmetal | so i've got $HOME/foo symlink to $HOME/.thingy/foo, can't i just make baloo follow $HOME/foo? |
| 07:57.22 | epicmetal | god did i even try that, hmm |
| 07:57.38 | epicmetal | i.e. $folders[$e]=$HOME/foo |
| 07:58.37 | epicmetal | Zren: what does it mean when balooctl status is saying "indexing file content" but it is also saying "indexed 2600 / 2600 files"? |
| 07:58.50 | epicmetal | i.e. shouldn't the left number be lower given the fact that it is currently indexing |
| 07:59.03 | Zren | it doesn't just index the filenames |
| 07:59.22 | epicmetal | so the count is for filenames, but the content count is not displayed in balooctl status...? |
| 07:59.36 | Zren | it's probably indexing the... metadata maybe on the second pass? |
| 07:59.40 | epicmetal | hmm |
| 07:59.48 | Zren | Or the text content of plain text files |
| 08:02.23 | epicmetal | it is apparently currently indexing a 1.5MB jpg |
| 08:02.27 | epicmetal | has been sitting on it for a few minutes |
| 08:02.35 | epicmetal | no CPU |
| 08:02.48 | epicmetal | still "indexing file content" |
| 08:03.16 | epicmetal | index size hasn't incrased |
| 08:03.19 | epicmetal | incrased* |
| 08:03.22 | epicmetal | increased* |
| 08:08.17 | epicmetal | so it seems kinda broken still, even with the hidden files bool as true |
| 08:09.22 | Zren | hmmm, `balooctl config set contentIndexing no` |
| 08:09.35 | epicmetal | but i want content indexing... |
| 08:09.52 | epicmetal | i've run your command though |
| 08:10.05 | Zren | ah |
| 08:10.16 | epicmetal | and have run another balooctl check |
| 08:10.21 | epicmetal | not sure what the point of this test is though |
| 08:10.35 | epicmetal | indexer is running; idle |
| 08:10.37 | epicmetal | nothing in monitor |
| 08:10.52 | epicmetal | probably because it was failing on the content, and all the filename indexing is done |
| 08:11.30 | epicmetal | Zren: p.s. thanks for your help so far, i appreciate it |
| 08:11.51 | epicmetal | just making sure i'm not crazy and it's actually not working |
| 08:12.16 | epicmetal | any other suggestions? i'm going to turn on contentIndexing again now and run another check |
| 08:12.34 | Zren | I haven't really looked much into baloo |
| 08:12.45 | epicmetal | Zren: what do you use for content indexing if anything? |
| 08:12.51 | Zren | I don't |
| 08:12.59 | Zren | besides file search sometimes |
| 08:13.02 | Zren | with dolphin |
| 08:13.04 | epicmetal | i've tested recoll and catfish and they're not as good |
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| 08:13.20 | epicmetal | so far, gnome does it well and everything else either has UX issues or plain doesn't work |
| 08:13.30 | epicmetal | ok |
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| 08:15.43 | epicmetal | doing one more test before i give up |
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| 08:20.58 | epicmetal | tried reverting to defaults, deleting the DB and pointing to the symlink... still barfs on that JPEG |
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| 08:38.07 | Zren | https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=1500653&product=frameworks-baloo |
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| 08:38.21 | Zren | https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=frameworks-baloo |
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| 09:01.41 | epicmetal | Zren: thanks, i'll see if my issue is raised. gotta go, the gf is here. thanks for your help |
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| 10:43.54 | vadimt | Hi, I noticed that on Wayland, X11 apps get scaled up. Can I turn that off, and can I turn it off per-application? |
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| 11:09.22 | tx | Hey guys |
| 11:09.32 | tx | despite reconfiguring SDDM (in plasma) to use a custom wallpaper |
| 11:09.44 | tx | it still uses an eye-blinding blue background when I am not logged in (cold boot) |
| 11:09.45 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
| 11:09.48 | tx | how do I get around this |
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| 11:53.42 | Tuju | what is the binary name for System Activity? |
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| 11:56.27 | LazyGnoll | Tuju: systemmonitor |
| 11:56.39 | LazyGnoll | part of the plasma-workspace |
| 11:56.47 | Tuju | yess, now it started! thanks. |
| 11:58.02 | Tuju | it never starts from ctrl+Esc when you need it. i don't know why. |
| 11:58.56 | Tuju | in my case i come to desktop and open it, system is swapping heavily. |
| 11:59.11 | Tuju | systemmonitor shows that it's kmail & Co |
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| 11:59.48 | Tuju | pulseaudio's (that thingy that passes audio through) size is decent +6GB. |
| 12:00.14 | Tuju | selecting Kmail's File -> Quit makes the window disappear, but binary is still eating the memory. |
| 12:00.41 | Tuju | Someone even made a bug report about that some 10 or 20 years ago. Still hanging around strong. |
| 12:01.08 | Tuju | If Kmail would be a woman, she would get raped a lot when Quit doesn't mean quit. |
| 12:02.00 | Tuju | A true enduser desktop is something where user needs to know what is a process, how to kill them and where all them memory went. |
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| 12:33.27 | la_putin | wtf |
| 12:33.58 | la_putin | u hv a fked up way of thinking |
| 12:34.10 | asturm | la_putin: some people lack nuance |
| 12:34.57 | Tuju | la_putin: you mean Quit should do something else than 'just quit'? |
| 12:35.17 | Tuju | or 'audio eating all memory is just fun'? |
| 12:35.57 | Tuju | of course pulseaudio has nothing to do with kde. |
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| 12:49.49 | Tuju | LazyGnoll: I can't find that systemmonitor from Fedora's desktop menus, either it's not there or I just can't find it. |
| 12:50.58 | LazyGnoll | it probably doesn't have a menu entry |
| 12:51.10 | LazyGnoll | since it's expected to show up on a hotkey. you can create one though |
| 12:51.40 | Tuju | yep. And for some reason when system starts running out of mem, ctrl+Esc stops working. That's where I normally start it. |
| 12:52.15 | Tuju | same with alt+f2, that dies way too often too. |
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| 12:54.32 | LazyGnoll | you can add it via kmenuedit or just pin it to taskbar then |
| 12:55.00 | shevchuk | Hello. Is there a way to disable akonadi mail dispatcher agent? After I delete it from akonadi console, but after akonadictl stop & start it is there again. |
| 12:55.04 | LazyGnoll | oh it doesn't seem to be very pinnable, huh |
| 12:55.47 | Tuju | LazyGnoll: i try it, thanks |
| 12:56.09 | tx | Are we talking about ksysguard? |
| 12:56.43 | LazyGnoll | systemmonitor. but yeah, I forgot about ksysguard |
| 12:56.45 | Tuju | Hmmm.... kmenuedit (could not find it from menu, so started with alt+f2): "Unable to contact khotkeys. Your changes are saved, but they could not be activated." |
| 12:58.57 | Tuju | but it worked just fine. |
| 12:59.00 | asturm | Tuju: kmenuedit is started by rightclick on application launcher |
| 12:59.40 | Tuju | what is 'application launcher' ? |
| 12:59.50 | tx | KDE's 'start menu' |
| 12:59.55 | Tuju | not K-menu? yes? |
| 12:59.55 | asturm | the thing you refer to as 'menu' |
| 13:00.24 | Tuju | yes, there it is |
| 13:01.01 | Tuju | i used to finetune my desktop quite a lot but then new releases make such turbluence that i more or less gave up with that |
| 13:01.29 | Tuju | these days i'm just happy if basic apps work and I get +20 konsoles open to work |
| 13:04.36 | la_putin | lol |
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| 13:08.34 | shevchuk | shevchuk, answering my own question in case anyone else needs it: to disable akonadi agent autostart, one should edit its .desktop file in /usr/share/akonadi/agents/ removing Autostart from X-Akonadi-Capabilities |
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| 13:10.50 | shevchuk | happy as akonadi without unneeded agens uses just 50mb ram in total |
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| 13:15.08 | Tuju | shevchuk: what that does then? |
| 13:15.47 | Tuju | i just had to kill kded5 since it was eating my machine, not sure did it come back and do i miss it |
| 13:16.27 | LazyGnoll | I think kded usually comes back after crashed but not if you kill it manually |
| 13:16.35 | LazyGnoll | it should be in the process tree if it is running |
| 13:17.10 | LazyGnoll | it's responsible for lots of stuff including global hotkeys I think, so that's why some stuff might have been broken after you've killed it |
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| 13:17.27 | LazyGnoll | it generally shouldn't use too many resources and if it does it's probably a rather important bug |
| 13:17.50 | Tuju | i killed it after noticing that desktop is more or less lobotomized again |
| 13:18.16 | Tuju | my problem is that i don't boot or log out from system |
| 13:18.35 | LazyGnoll | you can just start it again by running "kded5" |
| 13:18.40 | Tuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.14 | Tuju | yep, it's not running.... it started - no idea is it happy or not. |
| 13:19.15 | tosky | not even after updates of Frameworks or Plasma? |
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| 13:19.39 | Tuju | tosky: I don't install any updates since I know that runtime breaks then. |
| 13:19.55 | Tuju | once I've my work in state that I could reboot, i install updates and do it. |
| 13:20.02 | LazyGnoll | application sessions are a great thing but too bad it's not very popular |
| 13:23.22 | LazyGnoll | *cough cough* I think windows is getting those while linux is getting rid of those |
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| 14:33.15 | AppAraat | wtf, sometimes the Alt hotkey context menu item for Konsole open link is "y" and sometimes it's "l" |
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| 15:26.16 | JanKusanagi | probably when appearing over different things, with different items |
| 15:27.30 | AppAraat | it happens with links |
| 15:28.08 | JanKusanagi | but there's probably some menu item different, getting auto-assigned one letter over the other |
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| 15:29.06 | AppAraat | that's the thing, there wasn't an extra item :S |
| 15:29.31 | JanKusanagi | not necessarily extra, just one of them having different text |
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| 15:30.57 | JanKusanagi | FWIW, my Konsole doesn't give that menu item *any* accelerator :D |
| 15:31.41 | AppAraat | dang well |
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| 15:32.08 | AppAraat | JanKusanagi: can you try and see if you can make a shortcut for copying a link (by right-clicking that context menu item) and whether it persists? |
| 15:32.49 | vadimt | Something weird just happened. I've got a 4K monitor and am running Wayland. At the start everything looked normal and in readable fonts. Suddenly everything changed to a tiny font size that's unreadable. Is there some kind of hotkey that does that? It's not zoom, because there's no scrolling |
| 15:32.51 | JanKusanagi | I tried that yesterday, and no |
| 15:33.00 | AppAraat | oh damn that was you, sorry :p |
| 15:33.10 | AppAraat | I changed the nick coloring lol |
| 15:33.11 | JanKusanagi | yep, that was me =) |
| 15:33.13 | JanKusanagi | np |
| 15:33.33 | AppAraat | vadimt: perhaps DPI settings changed |
| 15:33.35 | JanKusanagi | I also might have been "jankusanagi_" at the time |
| 15:33.45 | AppAraat | ah yes that's true |
| 15:34.01 | vadimt | AppAraat: why would they change at runtime, though? |
| 15:34.02 | JanKusanagi | did icons and everything else also get smaller? |
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| 15:34.26 | vadimt | yup, everything is smaller |
| 15:34.40 | AppAraat | dunno, I don't run Wayland yet ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 15:34.43 | JanKusanagi | might be something related to the Qt scaling thing |
| 15:34.58 | JanKusanagi | there's an environment variable for that |
| 15:35.16 | JanKusanagi | what does "echo $QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR" say? |
| 15:35.21 | vadimt | thing is it happening while using the desktop |
| 15:35.23 | JanKusanagi | on a Konsole window, I mean |
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| 15:36.07 | vadimt | JanKusanagi: says 0 |
| 15:37.22 | JanKusanagi | same here, but that's normal here (1920x1080) |
| 15:37.37 | JanKusanagi | it would be interesting to know what it said when things were normal |
| 15:38.32 | vadimt | ok, here's another weird thing I noticed. My desktop background used to cover the screen. Now it takes up 1/4th, and right button clicks only work on the part with the wallpaper |
| 15:38.44 | JanKusanagi | the "Displays" section in System Settings has a Scale Display button for this |
| 15:39.05 | JanKusanagi | weird :D |
| 15:39.18 | JanKusanagi | there's a reason why Wayland is not the default yet :p |
| 15:40.17 | vadimt | JanKusanagi: oh, I know it's unstable. I figure somebody's got to test it out, though |
| 15:40.35 | JanKusanagi | yep, that's important |
| 15:40.46 | JanKusanagi | as long as the user knows what the situation is =) |
| 15:41.13 | AppAraat | and is able to reproduce the situation which does not meet expectations |
| 15:48.08 | vadimt | the trouble with reproducing it is that the event was quite random. I seem to have got things back to rough normality by changing scale to 2x in the display settings. I'm not sure what that setting is supposed to be for though, as it doesn't look like the entire display is getting scaled up |
| 15:48.32 | vadimt | it looks like before: KDE is smooth and using the 4K capabilities, while X11 apps are scaled up by 2X |
| 15:49.52 | vadimt | also compositor is going slightly nuts now |
| 15:50.04 | AppAraat | >event was quite random |
| 15:50.05 | AppAraat | I know that feel |
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| 15:53.42 | JanKusanagi | well, Plasma and Qt-based applications will use that setting properly |
| 15:54.01 | JanKusanagi | programs based on something else will probably not be as accomodating :D |
| 15:54.12 | vadimt | what does it mean for qt apps? |
| 15:54.20 | JanKusanagi | ? |
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| 15:56.03 | vadimt | I mean, what does setting scale to 2X in "display and monitor" do? |
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| 15:58.17 | JanKusanagi | I imagine it sets that QT_AUTO_blahblah environment variable that Qt-based programs (which includes the Plasma Desktop) will respect |
| 15:58.41 | JanKusanagi | what does "echo $QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR" say now? |
| 15:59.23 | vadimt | still 0 |
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| 15:59.55 | JanKusanagi | ok, might be a different variable, or a proper setting in a config file |
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| 17:03.35 | vadimt | Question, which is the process that under Wayland handles the K menu, taskbar and such things? |
| 17:05.40 | tosky | plasmashell, exactly like under Xorg |
| 17:07.17 | thiago | plasmashell |
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| 17:08.12 | AppAraat | plasmashell |
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| 18:42.17 | tsaka__ | any way to control the volume of one kde machine from another over local network? |
| 18:42.27 | tsaka__ | with the vol app, not terminal |
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| 18:51.01 | AppAraat | KDE Connect? |
| 18:51.35 | AppAraat | otherwise, you should do some PulseAudio trickery to be able to do that using volume control |
| 18:54.04 | JanKusanagi | aah, I remember when plasmoids could be shared over the network... =) |
| 18:54.35 | JanKusanagi | that was never used much, apparently; would be exactly what you want now xD |
| 18:54.48 | AppAraat | how did that happen? X over SSH? |
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| 19:06.03 | JanKusanagi | I don't know the transport, but I doubt it had anything to do with X |
| 19:06.17 | JanKusanagi | after all, there was Plasma on the other end, too |
| 19:06.29 | JanKusanagi | so the means to render the plasmoid were there |
| 19:06.49 | AppAraat | ah |
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| 19:16.28 | la_putin | how can i make my audio mono |
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| 19:16.58 | la_putin | or with both L+R channeled panned to either L or R |
| 19:17.02 | la_putin | channels* |
| 19:17.26 | la_putin | cus my headphones only work on the right side |
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| 19:34.36 | boggy | hey guys, how do i hide my username from the lock screen (and shouldnt the screen go blank first after the inactivity period, it just shows the lock screen) |
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| 19:39.53 | guest07 | is this a place where one can ask questions about dolphin? |
| 19:43.09 | JanKusanagi | you can |
| 19:43.51 | JanKusanagi | la_putin: right-click the volume control in the system tray to go to Audio Volume Settings |
| 19:44.10 | JanKusanagi | there, the audio volume category, the Advanced tab |
| 19:44.26 | JanKusanagi | you can select a Mono profile for your sound card |
| 19:44.43 | la_putin | i dont have that |
| 19:44.52 | la_putin | i only have stereo |
| 19:44.58 | AppAraat | lol the wonderful world of Linux audio :p |
| 19:45.15 | JanKusanagi | might be a sound card (or sound card driver) limitation |
| 19:45.18 | JanKusanagi | I have many profiles |
| 19:45.22 | guest07 | Is there any way of making large thumbnails in dolphin. Now up to a certain size the thumbnails are fine but when enlarged past that point it changes to an icon for pdf files in particular |
| 19:45.25 | JanKusanagi | including 5.1, which I use |
| 19:45.38 | JanKusanagi | I've never had any problems with audio in GNU |
| 19:45.41 | guest07 | Version 15.12.3 |
| 19:45.54 | guest07 | dolphin-plugins and kdegraphics-thumbnailers installed |
| 19:45.59 | asturm | wow. for real? |
| 19:46.02 | JanKusanagi | wow, 15.x... |
| 19:46.20 | JanKusanagi | no idea guest07, I don't have such an old version on any machine |
| 19:46.29 | JanKusanagi | are you using the "preview" mode? |
| 19:46.35 | guest07 | is that an old version? |
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| 19:46.38 | JanKusanagi | very |
| 19:46.43 | guest07 | hmmm |
| 19:46.48 | AppAraat | I have Dolphin |
| 19:46.48 | JanKusanagi | considering the 15 stands for 2015 |
| 19:46.49 | asturm | aeons ago... |
| 19:46.50 | AppAraat | Version 17.12.2 |
| 19:46.54 | guest07 | but it used to be the case I had no problems |
| 19:46.56 | JanKusanagi | and current is... â |
| 19:47.12 | JanKusanagi | so, again, are you using the "preview" mode? |
| 19:49.16 | tsaka__ | AppAraat: how do it with KDE connect? |
| 19:49.42 | tsaka__ | I have setup pulseaudio over network, so I can see the audio card of the other computer |
| 19:49.51 | AppAraat | tsaka__: there's multimedia control in the app |
| 19:50.04 | tsaka__ | but changing the volume only works if audio is being stream from one PC to another |
| 19:50.04 | guest07 | for the machine I'm on right now, the distro doesn't have anything newer: "dolphin is already the newest version (4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1)" |
| 19:50.30 | asturm | well. |
| 19:50.33 | AppAraat | guest07: what distro are you on? |
| 19:50.36 | asturm | that's not even frameworks-based. |
| 19:50.42 | guest07 | yes I'm using preview mode but it won't display large previews |
| 19:50.47 | guest07 | smaller ones are fine |
| 19:51.00 | guest07 | right this second it is zorin |
| 19:51.19 | asturm | it is probably a matter of thumbnailers not installed for kdelibs4 |
| 19:51.20 | guest07 | but I have many differend distros on different machine with the same problem |
| 19:51.38 | guest07 | what thumbnailer |
| 19:51.44 | AppAraat | guest07: try it with a live KDE Neon UE |
| 19:51.55 | guest07 | Neon UE? |
| 19:52.13 | AppAraat | yes, Neon User Edition - https://neon.kde.org/download |
| 19:52.29 | guest07 | It works with much older versions |
| 19:52.48 | guest07 | ok |
| 19:52.53 | guest07 | that may take a while |
| 19:53.09 | guest07 | limited resources right now |
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| 21:19.17 | ArsenArsen | why does KDE freeze on some apps |
| 21:19.46 | asturm | ArsenArsen: please define what is freezing, KDE is a community |
| 21:20.13 | ArsenArsen | stops updating screen |
| 21:20.17 | ArsenArsen | only cursor works |
| 21:20.51 | un214 | weird; I've seen the KDE window manager crash but that would affect all apps if it did |
| 21:21.12 | ArsenArsen | yeah, all apps |
| 21:21.19 | ArsenArsen | the screen fully stops updating |
| 21:21.22 | ArsenArsen | well, other than the cursor |
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| 21:21.58 | un214 | sounds like a hung WM; good luck with that |
| 21:22.12 | ArsenArsen | I just restart SDDM usually |
| 21:22.19 | ArsenArsen | Is there a log somewhere? |
| 21:23.27 | un214 | when I want a log I start X manually than KDE redirecting stdout to a log file |
| 21:23.38 | ArsenArsen | I can't do that right now :/ |
| 21:24.06 | un214 | well if it already hung it's too late anyway |
| 21:25.22 | ArsenArsen | yea |
| 21:25.32 | ArsenArsen | Does SDDM dump a log anywhere? |
| 21:25.46 | un214 | I'm pretty sure the answer is no |
| 21:26.00 | ArsenArsen | Damn |
| 21:26.02 | asturm | ~/.config/share/xorg-session.log |
| 21:26.03 | ArsenArsen | Thought so |
| 21:26.14 | asturm | (throw in sddm in there) |
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| 21:26.53 | un214 | I don't have a ~/.config/share |
| 21:27.20 | asturm | sorry, it was ~/.local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log |
| 21:27.57 | ArsenArsen | yeah thought so |
| 21:28.03 | ArsenArsen | miight be overwritten already |
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| 21:42.25 | Celmor | not using KDE but using dolphin, is this the best place to ask about it? |
| 21:42.44 | Celmor | getting "Unable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Error loading '/usr/lib/qt/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so'." |
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| 21:52.19 | thiago | Celmor: can you ldd that file? |
| 21:52.47 | Celmor | https://ptpb.pw/kZrz |
| 21:53.11 | thiago | have you done any system updates recently? |
| 21:53.17 | Celmor | I just did a full system update (pacman -Syu) so not sure what's missing |
| 21:53.35 | Celmor | dolphin didn't work before either though |
| 21:53.58 | thiago | you need to restart kdeinit then |
| 21:54.05 | Celmor | what's that? |
| 21:54.05 | thiago | run in a shell: kdeinit5_wrapper kdeinit5 |
| 21:54.29 | Celmor | do I need to close other QT/KDE applications first? |
| 21:54.51 | thiago | no |
| 21:55.28 | Celmor | alright, now it works, thanks |
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| 21:55.41 | thiago | you're welcome |
| 21:57.26 | rindolf | thiago: hi |
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| 21:58.20 | rindolf | thiago: thanks for helping Celmor |
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| 22:18.36 | chcknrub | the screen saver doesn't work |
| 22:18.56 | asturm | what screensaver? |
| 22:19.14 | chcknrub | in kde 5.12.2 |
| 22:19.19 | chcknrub | screen locking |
| 22:19.21 | asturm | there is no screensaver |
| 22:19.32 | asturm | so what's happening? |
| 22:19.43 | chcknrub | i left it over night |
| 22:19.59 | chcknrub | how to debug it? |
| 22:20.05 | asturm | so what's happening? |
| 22:20.16 | chcknrub | i have to manually trigger it |
| 22:20.35 | asturm | locking? or unlocking? |
| 22:20.40 | chcknrub | ctrl + alt + l |
| 22:20.45 | chcknrub | yup.. |
| 22:20.58 | chcknrub | how does it get triggered? |
| 22:21.23 | asturm | do you happen to have upgraded something during your session? qt5, kf5...? |
| 22:21.40 | chcknrub | latest kde neon.. |
| 22:21.53 | asturm | during your session |
| 22:23.08 | x7C3 | plasma's been exhibiting odd behaviour recently, i have special application rules for a terminal emulator to always start fullscreen on monitor #2 |
| 22:23.16 | x7C3 | but at startup, it always starts on the first one |
| 22:23.46 | chcknrub | yup.. the application is on the first monitor, the pop is on the 2nd monitor... |
| 22:23.54 | x7C3 | pop? |
| 22:24.09 | chcknrub | any input or dialog box |
| 22:24.17 | x7C3 | is that a known bug? |
| 22:25.15 | chcknrub | i'm using latest kde neon.. |
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| 22:26.31 | chcknrub | how to debug the screensaver? |
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| 23:58.00 | CorvetteZR1 | hi. on my laptop krdc does not have optior for rdp, only vnc is avaiable |
| 23:58.19 | CorvetteZR1 | i have freerdp and rdesktop installed. what am i missing to have rdp in krdc? |