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| 02:03.02 | epicmetal | replaces baloo with recoll |
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| 02:26.18 | eiii_ | I'm using plasma 5.12.2 on Arch, and one of my desktops seems to be stuck on the default folder view/wallpaper setting. I can change its layout and wallpaper settings via the normal dialog and they seem to take, but as soon as I reboot my computer it goes back to the defaults. My other desktops are unaffected by this. Does anyone know how this problem could be solved? |
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| 02:34.14 | parxapple | does anyone knw where i can find a kde 2. |
| 02:34.16 | parxapple | 2.0* |
| 02:38.59 | epicmetal | replaces recoll with catfish |
| 02:43.02 | epicmetal | Who am I kidding, I'll go back to baloo |
| 02:43.36 | epicmetal | eiii_: multi-monitor? |
| 02:46.57 | eiii_ | epicmetal: yup |
| 02:47.40 | eiii_ | If it matters, the display that's affected is not my primary display. |
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| 03:02.23 | epicmetal | eiii_: I have a similar problem |
| 03:02.40 | epicmetal | eiii_: I seem to recall someone here saying it's a known bug |
| 03:02.50 | epicmetal | eiii_: I just logout/login and it works, no need to reboot |
| 03:02.57 | epicmetal | It's just random |
| 03:03.02 | epicmetal | (seemingly) |
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| 03:07.49 | eiii_ | We must be seeing different issues, neither rebooting nor logging out/in allows my desktop settings to persist. |
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| 07:53.14 | epicmetal | Does KDE override /etc/fonts/conf.d/ if I have "use anti-aliasing" set to "system settings" in KDE System Settings? |
| 07:53.36 | epicmetal | In terms of hinting, sub-pixel rendering, LCD filter... everything |
| 07:53.58 | epicmetal | I basically want /etc/fonts/conf.d/ to be honoured to the maximum extent possible |
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| 08:00.26 | epicmetal | brb |
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| 08:57.40 | epicmetal | What's a good non-fuzzy sans font for UI? |
| 08:58.54 | epicmetal | I can't get it as crispy as Segoe in Office 2016 on Windows |
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| 09:02.18 | harmathy | Use font hinting |
| 09:02.57 | epicmetal | harmathy: I've tried that... can't get it as nice. I think I need to pick a better font |
| 09:03.23 | epicmetal | harmathy: the only thing that looks remotely crispy are select monospace fonts but I don't want monospace for UI |
| 09:03.41 | epicmetal | Dina/Tamsyn/Tamzen/Hack/etc. |
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| 09:06.49 | harmathy | Try to use freetype 2.9 or freetype with infinality patches |
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| 09:08.01 | epicmetal | harmathy: I'm already using 2.9 |
| 09:08.15 | epicmetal | I really just think it's a font problem given that Dina looks amazing with my current settings |
| 09:09.00 | epicmetal | I've tried a ton of sans fonts, e.g. Overpass,Droid,OpenSans,Roboto,Selawik,Tahoma |
| 09:09.18 | epicmetal | And the Croscore set |
| 09:09.36 | epicmetal | Overpass/Roboto are probably the best but still lacking |
| 09:11.17 | epicmetal | They're pretty but they start to suck at smaller point sizes, something which Microsoft fonts don't seem to do |
| 09:11.32 | epicmetal | At least not Segoe |
| 09:12.26 | epicmetal | harmathy: what is your recommended hinting settings and with which sans font(s)? |
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| 09:18.47 | hateball | epicmetal: I'd use normal hinting and not full at any rate |
| 09:18.55 | hateball | full has some issues that might cause render issues |
| 09:19.08 | hateball | I've had some fonts not render at all :D |
| 09:19.42 | epicmetal | hateball: normal as in slight? |
| 09:19.49 | epicmetal | i.e. the default? |
| 09:20.15 | hateball | oh, maybe a locale issue... |
| 09:20.35 | hateball | I've got "none, slight, normal, full" |
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| 09:21.28 | epicmetal | hateball: normal == medium |
| 09:21.30 | Triffid_Hunter | epicmetal: I find issues with rendering at small point sizes can be fixed by lying about your monitor's DPI and using larger point sizes |
| 09:21.56 | epicmetal | Triffid_Hunter: I've set my actual DPI using DisplaySize in xorg.conf.d |
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| 09:23.11 | epicmetal | brb, restarting X11 |
| 09:23.48 | harmathy | epicmetal: Use a font designed for heay hinting, e.g. Vardana |
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| 09:24.20 | epicmetal | slight->medium doesn't change much |
| 09:24.29 | epicmetal | I'm 99% sure I just need the right actual font |
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| 09:26.35 | harmathy | slight and medium in fontconfig seem to be identcal https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/321857/why-is-xft-ignoring-font-settings |
| 09:27.00 | epicmetal | lol ok |
| 09:27.33 | epicmetal | why do people set X resources if they've already set fontconfig? seems redundant |
| 09:27.47 | harmathy | Keep also in mind, that hinting has implications, see http://www.antigrain.com/research/font_rasterization/ |
| 09:28.04 | epicmetal | defenstrates himself |
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| 09:30.50 | epicmetal | oh, so gtk+ stuff might look different to qt stuff because of pango... |
| 09:31.13 | epicmetal | this is all too hard |
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| 10:09.47 | Elvanor | Hello. I have a problem with Baloo. It seems to be stuck and no longer indexing files. |
| 10:10.06 | Elvanor | elvanor@taniquetil ~ $ balooctl status |
| 10:10.08 | Elvanor | Baloo File Indexer is not running |
| 10:10.09 | Elvanor | Indexed 51485 / 731453 files |
| 10:10.35 | Elvanor | If I issue a balooctl restart, it tells me: Failed to register via dbus. Another instance is running |
| 10:14.17 | hateball | Elvanor: suppose you could try disabling it altogether |
| 10:14.25 | hateball | and then re-enabling and starting |
| 10:14.30 | Elvanor | I am on Gentoo Linux and using baloo 5.40 |
| 10:14.50 | Elvanor | @hateball let me try |
| 10:15.28 | Elvanor | balooctl enable gives me the same error |
| 10:15.32 | Elvanor | Failed to register via dbus. Another instance is running |
| 10:15.39 | Elvanor | balooctl disable worked though |
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| 10:21.54 | Elvanor | now I even have: |
| 10:21.55 | Elvanor | elvanor@taniquetil ~ $ balooctl status |
| 10:21.57 | Elvanor | Baloo Index could not be opened |
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| 10:27.13 | hateball | hmmm. |
| 10:27.22 | hateball | this is beyond my knowledge I am afraid |
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| 11:43.32 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 12:31.42 | Guest47250 | Hi, anyone knows how to connect sftp with Key File (ppk) in Krusader? |
| 12:34.30 | Guest47250 | ?? |
| 12:34.33 | Guest47250 | nobody? |
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| 12:36.45 | asturm | Guest47250: this is IRC, so be patient |
| 12:37.04 | Guest47250 | you're right sorry |
| 12:37.17 | Guest47250 | you're right, sorry |
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| 12:42.55 | brli_ | hi there |
| 12:47.48 | brli_ | I'm upgrading from qupzilla to falkon, and I recall there are plenty migration magic while upgrading softwares from kde4 to p5. |
| 12:48.23 | brli_ | So, I'd like to contribute some for falkon also, as there are a few difference between qz and falkon |
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| 12:49.36 | asturm | brli_: I recall hearing that migration works by moving the .config folder of [recent versions of] qupzilla to falkon. you can contact nowrep in #kde-devel |
| 12:50.06 | brli_ | asturm: yes, I'm pinging him on #qupzilla |
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| 12:50.57 | ltosky[m] | brli_: this is unrelated to the migration to kf5, because qupzilla was Qt5 already and Falkon does not use Frameworks |
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| 12:51.12 | brli_ | ltosky[m]: yes, I understand |
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| 12:52.25 | ltosky[m] | about the current status, it's described here: http://davidrosca.blogspot.com/2018/02/falkon-300-released.html |
| 12:52.50 | ystein | Bugzilla question: A visual bug with the Task Manager's Alternative Widget switcher should be filed against plasmashellâpanel or plasmashellâtask manager? |
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| 14:14.55 | epicmetal | What's the difference between "first run=false" and "balooctl check"? |
| 14:16.03 | epicmetal | I'm guessing there's a technical difference (drop and recreate the whole database, versus only indexing files not listed in database) |
| 14:16.17 | epicmetal | But the effect should be the same (all candidate files indexed) |
| 14:16.19 | epicmetal | Right? |
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| 14:17.29 | epicmetal | p.s. I seem to have found that "better" sans font that works at low DPI: Arimo |
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| 15:20.00 | fb5003 | hi |
| 15:20.21 | fb5003 | Is there anyone that can give me some help with NetworkManagerQt? |
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| 15:27.44 | jankusanagi_ | just ask |
| 15:29.47 | fb5003 | Ok, thanks |
| 15:30.27 | fb5003 | The documentation for Device::setAutoconnect() says: |
| 15:30.29 | fb5003 | "If false, manual intervention is required before the device will automatically connect to a known network, such as activating a connection using the device, or setting this property to true." |
| 15:31.15 | jankusanagi_ | ok... |
| 15:31.36 | fb5003 | I suppose this means that by setting autoconnect to true the device should connect to an available connection which does not have autoconnect=false |
| 15:32.02 | fb5003 | I just disabled my wifi connection via nmcli |
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| 15:32.35 | fb5003 | and run a simple program that iterates over the interface and once it finds the wifi interface just sets autoconnect to true |
| 15:32.38 | jankusanagi_ | hm, this is probably better suited for #kde-devel |
| 15:32.46 | fb5003 | Ooh |
| 15:32.54 | fb5003 | K |
| 15:32.56 | fb5003 | Sorry |
| 15:33.02 | jankusanagi_ | no problem :D |
| 15:33.12 | fb5003 | I just saw that this channel was listed in the lib page |
| 15:33.23 | jankusanagi_ | developes hang out in here too, but this is more for user support |
| 15:33.41 | fb5003 | This thing is pissing me off a lot! I think it is working for modem but not for wifi. |
| 15:33.51 | fb5003 | Anyway, going to write there. Thanks again :) |
| 15:33.58 | jankusanagi_ | =) |
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| 16:31.59 | tleydxdy | Hi, I was wondering why my meta key suddenly wont open application menu any more |
| 16:33.03 | tleydxdy | it's working when I installed kde, and sometimes it will stop working and comeback at random.... |
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| 16:34.12 | jankusanagi_ | AFAIK, that hack is handled by Kwin |
| 16:34.25 | m_tadeu | hi...dolphin is not showing png previews, even with the images preview settting on...any idea why? |
| 16:34.31 | jankusanagi_ | but I have that disabled, so I've never seen it stop working :D |
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| 16:34.55 | jankusanagi_ | m_tadeu: how big are the file sizes? |
| 16:35.20 | m_tadeu | ~250k |
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| 16:36.01 | jankusanagi_ | ah, then I doubt that's the reason |
| 16:36.18 | jankusanagi_ | (there's a setting to not show previews for files bigger than X MiB) |
| 16:37.01 | m_tadeu | remote previews |
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| 16:38.03 | jankusanagi_ | there's a general setting too |
| 16:38.08 | jankusanagi_ | or at least, there used to be :D |
| 16:39.51 | m_tadeu | can't find a setting for that....but jpg are being previewed |
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| 16:44.07 | jankusanagi_ | yeah yeah, and the default is on the >1 MiB range anyway, not the case for your ~250 KiB files |
| 16:44.54 | jankusanagi_ | cause must be something else... an upgrade on libpng that makes Dolphin (and the used KF5 pieces) need rebuilding, maybe |
| 16:45.13 | jankusanagi_ | did this work for you previously? |
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| 16:45.39 | m_tadeu | not sure....I had the plugin disabled |
| 16:47.13 | tleydxdy | eh, alt+f1 also aren't bringing the application menu up |
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| 16:57.02 | jankusanagi_ | you can right-click the menu button, go to its settings and verify that said shortcut is really assigned |
| 16:57.29 | jankusanagi_ | if it is, kglobalaccel might not be running (that handles many global shortcuts, probably this one too) |
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| 17:40.06 | tleydxdy | aha |
| 17:40.10 | tleydxdy | worked |
| 17:40.24 | tleydxdy | so the system is mapping meta to alt f1? |
| 17:40.45 | tleydxdy | still don't know why it goes away randomly |
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| 17:44.48 | sergio | is ~/.config/autostart-scripts still a thing ? |
| 17:44.56 | sergio | my scripts stopped working recently |
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| 18:16.40 | user00 | present windows and show desktop grid, probably other kwin features, stopped working (nothing happens on shortcut press), would be gratefull for any pointers on how to find the issue (plasmashell 5.12.2, distro: manjaro 17.1.6) |
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| 18:21.04 | JanKusanagi | not sure, sergio, but I've seen others having that same problem |
| 18:21.31 | JanKusanagi | you can add your scripts as regular autostart programs, pointing to your script, that would work |
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| 18:22.37 | JanKusanagi | tleydxdy: no, activating the applications menu by pressing "super" (or meta, or whatever you want to call it) alone is a Kwin thing, but it's not key mapping |
| 18:22.59 | JanKusanagi | user00: do those features work via mouse+hot corners? |
| 18:23.12 | user00 | no they don't either |
| 18:23.31 | JanKusanagi | maybe compositing is disable |
| 18:23.32 | JanKusanagi | d |
| 18:23.40 | JanKusanagi | do you have transparencies and other effects? |
| 18:25.24 | user00 | The present windows / show desktop grid settings are enabled under desktop effects, how would i go about checking if compsiting is disabled? |
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| 18:28.28 | user00 | alt+tabbing seems to be different as well |
| 18:30.49 | user00 | seems like most things under desktop behauviour > desktop effects stopped working |
| 18:32.28 | user00 | yup it seems to have been the compositor was disabled |
| 18:32.31 | user00 | no idea why |
| 18:32.37 | user00 | thank you alot. |
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| 19:43.18 | ArsenArsen | does /etc/plasma/startup get activated after pulseaudio is loaded? |
| 19:43.32 | ArsenArsen | and does /etc/plasma/shutdown happen before pulseaudio shuts down |
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| 19:55.24 | JanKusanagi | I don't even have such a path... |
| 19:55.35 | JanKusanagi | probably best to ask your distribution |
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