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03:59.41strixdiowhat's the channel for kde plasma mobile?
04:00.15strixdioif there is one..
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04:31.19JanKusanagiyou could start by going to #plasma
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12:34.31asturmcould someone with >=qt-5.9 confirm they have shadow around popup menus in e.g. dolphin?
12:35.04asturm(or have not)
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12:46.31oprypinasturm, i have shadow around popup menus
12:46.56asturminteresting.
12:48.40oprypinChromium somehow doesnt have shadows even from its main window
12:49.04asturmoprypin: I take it you run Qt-5.10 already?
12:49.13oprypinsame for Steam - I suppose it's about title bar + borders
12:49.15oprypinasturm, sure
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12:49.31asturmI'll have to check with my other system then...
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12:55.40demmasturm: I don't have them on wayland, they do show on X (Qt 5.10.1)
12:56.06asturmI don't have them on X w/ 5.9.4...
12:56.15asturmand same for another user
12:56.26asturm(not that I would have noticed that)
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13:28.59EtuaMy distribution is newest Manjaro.
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13:30.53BluesKajHi folks
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13:37.04justJanneIf I’d want to fix a bug in KDE’s Application Dashboard, where would I do that? Never done that before, and can’t find the source. Specifically, Application Launcher renders SVG icons, but Application Dashboard can only render PNG icons, not SVG icons
13:41.50asturmjustJanne: for Plasma related questions you can go to #plasma
13:42.22asturmmost people are active during euro worktime hours though
13:43.14justJannewell, that’s good, cause I’m in EU (specifically DE) myself – and it’s DE worktime hours right now :)
13:43.28asturmwell... it's saturday :p
13:43.35justJannewell, good point
13:43.42justJanneI tend to forget that (working remotely)
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16:02.37yann-kaeligelo. Hopw can I install plasmadesktop theme but not in the /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/ folder ?
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16:10.12cbergis there an option to switch to the virtual desktop where an app window resides when clicking on its tray symbol? right now when the window is minimized, it brings it to the current desktop, and if it's not minimized on a different desktop then nothing happens
16:10.27KottizenHi everyone. My school runs Ubuntu 16.04.4 and I would like to use KDE instead of Xfce, but I have no root access. What would be the easiest way to reach my goal under those circumstances?
16:10.32cbergI thought I've seen this option but can't find it, and now I'm not sure anymore if it exists
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16:12.24JanKusanagidownloading Plasma's source code and installing it in a user-writable place? :D
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16:13.33KottizenJanKusanagi: There are no pre-compiled packages that I could download?
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16:35.34JanKusanagiKottizen: download, yes... from your own distribution
16:35.40JanKusanagibut install by regular means...
16:35.57JanKusanagiwell, I guess you can always decompress the .deb files :D
16:36.24JanKusanagimaybe Apt can install to a user's home, no idea
16:36.48JanKusanagihave fun: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=plasma-desktop   =)
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16:37.34JanKusanagiif Apt has a way to install to a user's home, then I guess you don't need to manually download anything
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16:59.12mplavsichello everyone, can someone tell me why my keyboard behaves weirdly while on wayland? For instance, if I press some keys, then a filter of all the applications shows app and it is really annoying. On xorg is all normal
17:01.56mplavsicActually I find the filter useful, but it shouldn't be invoked when I try to press ~ or ^ (now I did copy paste)
17:03.02mplavsic(I am using Arch Linux, with a Swiss German keyboard)
17:05.36JanKusanagiI don't know what that "filter of all the applications" is
17:05.46JanKusanagibut there's probably a global shortcut set for it
17:05.58JanKusanagithat you can change or disable in Plasma's System Settings
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17:19.59cbergwow the panel crashes a lot...
17:20.10cbergat least it reloads quickly
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17:31.44bings[m]Do you have any custom widgets on the panel?
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17:33.16cbergbings[m]: no pretty much all standard
17:35.44bings[m]Ok, they can cause it to crash. I had a weather widget that was causing it all the time
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18:36.31JanKusanagijust for accuracy, there's no "panel crashing"; if the panel(s) disappears, that's the plasmashell process crashing
18:36.40JanKusanagi(and usually respawning again)
18:37.09Fulgen_only if Konqi doesn't crash aswell :P
18:40.15cbergyeah I figured that out too from looking at the logs
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18:41.12cbergbut it always happens during interactions with the panel for me
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18:55.40JanKusanagiwell, it's one of the common ways of "making plasmashell do something" :D
18:55.52JanKusanagiinteracting with plasmoids on the desktop could do it just as well
18:56.30JanKusanagior it could do it by itself, in case of, for instance, a misbehaving plasmoid with a timer to do something every X seconds, say, a cpu monitor, or a weather widget
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19:44.53Q-collectivehi all! I'm wondering: I have this calculator button on my keyboard and was wondering if I could bind it to kcalc in KDE. Can't find the option to start a new application with it in the preferences, so is this at all possible?
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19:46.27JanKusanagiprobably, yes
19:46.40JanKusanagijust edit the applications menu, and each program there can have a shortcut to launch it
19:47.11JanKusanagiwhen setting the shortcut, you could use, say, ctrl+alt+c, but you'll probably be able to set it to that "multimedia key"
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20:00.56Q-collectiveJanKusanagi: ah, thanks! That got me on the right track. After I found out that "kde menu editor" is opened via kmenuedit, it was a breeze.
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20:22.24kutsuyaIn dolphin, how do I make a symbolic link of a file?
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20:36.36cbergkutsuya: for me it's in the right click menu - create new - basic link to file or directory
20:37.44kutsuyacberg, I see it now. Thanks!  was doing it on the cmdline   heh
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20:41.05kutsuyait's not very GUI....   I should be able to just right click the file and may a symlink
20:41.09kutsuyaback to cmdline
20:41.16kutsuyamay/make
20:41.21JanKusanagiQ-collective: easier to right click Plasma's menu icon, but OK :D
20:41.57Q-collectiveah, missed that
20:42.02Q-collectiveoh well
20:42.23JanKusanagikutsuya: so what's the problem with what cberg said?
20:42.28kutsuyacurrently... I have to type in the file name, and type in the location to put the symlink
20:42.59kutsuyaso it works
20:43.31JanKusanagiyou can also just drag whatever file to whatever place, and select "Link here" in the menu that pops up
20:43.46kutsuyaoh...checking it out
20:43.50JanKusanagi(once you let go of the mouse button, "dropping")
20:45.02kutsuyaJanKusanagi, thanks :)
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21:16.46JanKusanagiyw!
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21:28.02CorvetteZR1hello.  i'm on plasma 5.12, for some reason animations like box flip for desktop switching and wably windows, stopped working suddenly.  compiz is still working though because i still have transperacy effects
21:28.15CorvetteZR1how can i find out what the issue is?
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21:28.34oprypinCorvetteZR1, sorry... compiz? hopefully you mean compositing in general
21:28.38CorvetteZR1using gl2.0 rendering; i tried switching to xrander and 3.1, same issue
21:28.50CorvetteZR1yes, compositing in general :)
21:29.20oprypinCorvetteZR1, well, go to "Desktop Effects" and see what that says
21:29.21CorvetteZR1OpenGlIsNotsafe is set to false...
21:30.20oprypin"Wobbly Windows" should be in the list and have something written for it
21:30.41oprypinmaybe it's unchecked, maybe it has some error, or maybe it's not in the list!
21:30.55CorvetteZR1hmm, it's gone now.  but in workspace switching, desktop cube animation is still selected
21:31.35oprypinCorvetteZR1, there's the option "Exclude desktop efects not supported by the compositor"
21:32.00oprypinit's in the weird menu button near the search input field
21:32.09oprypintry it out and see if that comes back
21:32.35oprypinrendering should be opengl
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21:36.42CorvetteZR1will check that now...
21:37.35CorvetteZR1yea, it's back now! :D
21:37.39CorvetteZR1thanks oprypin
21:37.46oprypinCorvetteZR1, what's back
21:37.49CorvetteZR1well, it's back i the list anyway
21:37.51CorvetteZR1wobbly
21:38.02oprypinyeah but i dont think it will work  if it's "not supported by the compositor"
21:38.25oprypinwhat state are your video drivers in?
21:38.36CorvetteZR1i actually checked there before, but i thought those were checkboxes and they were unchecked...but it's highlighted
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21:38.56CorvetteZR1but it was working fine yesterday before i compiled chromium
21:39.03CorvetteZR1then all of a sudden they stopped working
21:39.12CorvetteZR1i'm using intel drm drivers in freebsd 11.1
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21:42.22CorvetteZR1yea, even though i selected it, it's not working
21:42.35CorvetteZR1so weird...why it just stop?  i rebooted a few times too
21:43.04oprypindammit, KDE started hiding all application menus
21:43.09CorvetteZR1it wouldn't bother me so much if it didn't work before, but the fact it was working and just decided to stop is what's bugging me
21:43.28oprypinI had to remove the stupid menu button from title bar, and then manually press Ctrl+M in every application to re-enable menus
21:43.33oprypinI have no idea how to make it stop
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21:47.49CorvetteZR1yea, your right...i get no menu in dolphin too
21:47.57CorvetteZR1i didn't even notice that before
21:48.11CorvetteZR1i think this might be part of the problem i'm having with compositing:  info: [drm] GMBUS [i915 gmbus dpb] timed out, falling back to bit banging on pin 5
21:48.21CorvetteZR1info: [drm] GMBUS [i915 gmbus dpb] timed out, falling back to bit banging on pin 2
21:49.40CorvetteZR1oh, nm...apparently that's normal
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21:53.14oprypinCorvetteZR1, no, for Dolphin that is expected. you get the "Control" menu
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