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| 00:07.14 | livingbeef | Can I set dolphin (17.08) to use one-click-open? I have "open files and stuff" to one-click, but that doesn't work. |
| 00:07.59 | livingbeef | (in general KDE settings, I don't see anything about single-click in dolphin settings) |
| 00:08.22 | thiago | yes. Set it globally and dolphin will obey. |
| 00:08.34 | thiago | I've had it like that for 8 years |
| 00:09.00 | livingbeef | Well, my dolphin seems to be somewhat rebellious. |
| 00:09.02 | thiago | system settings > mouse > single click to open files and folders |
| 00:09.27 | thiago | close all dolphin windows |
| 00:10.38 | livingbeef | Yep, I've got that set. It seems it was set like that by default, but it does not work. |
| 00:13.48 | jankusanagi_ | I've had it like that since forever, too, working fine |
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| 00:55.16 | _jam | I want to set a compose key. on my old keyboard it was the "menu" key, but my new laptop does not have that. What does it mean in the settings for this "3rd level of <key>"? |
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| 01:01.00 | _jam | oh, i see, it's like a second shift key |
| 01:01.57 | _jam | hmm, too bad I can't use one of the shift keys for that |
| 01:12.15 | thiago | well, he can, but only if he had waited to get an answer |
| 01:13.42 | jankusanagi_ | that's probably the #1 user problem xD |
| 01:13.47 | kishore96_ | My keyboard layout is a bit weird now. I have caps lock as esc, two shifts as caps lock, and left alt and meta swapped. |
| 01:13.55 | kishore96_ | I'm not sure why I did the latter. |
| 01:13.59 | argonel | hums a Pete Seeger tune |
| 01:14.31 | thiago | kishore96_: you must've swapped shift and caps |
| 01:14.57 | thiago | check the third tab of the Keyboard entry in system settings |
| 01:15.02 | kishore96_ | Nah. There's a setting for caps to be activated if both shifts are pressed simultaneously. |
| 01:15.11 | kishore96_ | That's all intentional. :P |
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| 01:27.41 | _jam | not sure what I did, but the setting "use caps as esc" is no longer working :/ |
| 01:32.06 | _jam | weird interaction with some 3rd level something...ok. giving up on that |
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| 02:10.42 | elec64 | tosky: ok |
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| 03:00.42 | lrb | What is "Hybrid Suspend" and how's it different from regular suspend? The search terms I've been using are bringing up how-to articles rather than details on what they are. |
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| 03:09.10 | argonel | irb: also known as "pm-suspend-hybrid" |
| 03:13.12 | lrb | Thanks argonel. That was what I needed to search for |
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| 04:30.03 | kdesus | did something break in kde to stop handling suspend key? "systemd-logind[702]: Suspend key pressed" and nothing happens. |
| 04:31.47 | jankusanagi_ | there are settings in Plasma to choose what to do when that key is pressed |
| 04:31.51 | jankusanagi_ | did you check them? |
| 04:35.58 | kdesus | Ya, I know. It's an option in KDE Daemon and Power Management. It's set in KDE Daemon. The issue arose after my latest update yesterday (day before?) I think. |
| 04:36.42 | argonel | anything useful in the output of journalctl -u suspend.target? |
| 04:41.17 | kdesus | Ya, there was *1* instance of "Reached target Suspend", "Unit not needed anymore", "Stopped target Suspend" AFTER the reboot for the update. |
| 04:42.48 | kdesus | oh wait, I know which time that was. I rebooted NOT because of the update, but because suspend wasn't working. When I got to the login screen, sleep worked there, but not AFTER I'm logged in. |
| 04:44.38 | kdesus | one other change I made because of X is using evdev instead of libinput. |
| 04:44.47 | kdesus | (different issue) |
| 04:44.50 | argonel | how about systemd-inhibit --list |
| 04:45.36 | kdesus | upwer is paused, powerdevil is blocked (because of kde), screen locker is delayed. |
| 04:46.13 | argonel | does powerdevil say handle-suspend-key? |
| 04:46.38 | kdesus | yes, but it's blocked, so it wouldn't matter though would it? |
| 04:46.50 | argonel | does it say "block" or "blocked"? |
| 04:46.56 | kdesus | "block" |
| 04:47.34 | argonel | that means powerdevil is doing the blocking |
| 04:47.40 | argonel | not that powerdevil is blocked |
| 04:48.14 | kdesus | ahhh, good to know. (no idea what it was previously before the update) |
| 04:48.58 | kdesus | yup, that was an update along with all of the other kde stuff the other day. |
| 04:50.54 | argonel | ok, so its probably bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389991 |
| 04:51.54 | kdesus | excellent argonel, good find. |
| 04:55.20 | kdesus | is it preferred to have kde_daemon or powerdevil handle these events? |
| 04:59.25 | argonel | iiuc the config options need to move from [kded5] to [org_kde_powerdevil] |
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| 05:12.14 | kdesus | ya. I'm just peeking around on the interwebs to see if there is a "why" to what happened. I know I didn't touch a thing. Also seeing if I should even bother keeping powerdevil. |
| 05:13.28 | thiago | does the system suspend if you do "systemctl suspend" ? |
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| 05:14.51 | kdesus | All I saw about the "why" is https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/57548?string=powerdevil&project=1&type%5B0%5D=&sev%5B0%5D=&pri%5B0%5D=&due%5B0%5D=&reported%5B0%5D=&cat%5B0%5D=&status%5B0%5D=open&percent%5B0%5D=&opened=&dev=&closed=&duedatefrom=&duedateto=&changedfrom=&changedto=&openedfrom=&openedto=&closedfrom=&closedto= but not really a "why", just a bug at this point. (btw, arch is my dist) |
| 05:16.13 | thiago | looks like there's a shortcut conflict |
| 05:16.41 | kdesus | thiago, I haven't tried it (don't want to given that I'd lose my IRC connection) but I'm pretty sure... yea, it's what argonel pointed me to with their kde bug link. |
| 05:18.01 | thiago | given it suspends before you log in, I'd say it's suspending correctly, but not triggering it |
| 05:38.24 | kdesus | welp, opted to switch the settings in kde, set myself as a watcher for that bug and going to give it a go. If I disappear, it's all good and tnx. |
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| 08:22.42 | netsrot | Hi, does kde have rain as desktop effects option? |
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| 08:26.47 | annadane | i would love that if it did |
| 08:26.51 | annadane | please say it does |
| 08:26.56 | annadane | i'm going to look it up right now |
| 08:27.12 | netsrot | thanks |
| 08:27.34 | annadane | apparently not D: |
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| 08:28.12 | netsrot | I have only found drops inpact on screen in compiz. I'm looking for rain falling more like the matrix screen saver. |
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| 10:53.25 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
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| 11:46.53 | livingbeef | Any idea why xterm wouldn't work with fullscreen mode? It is not a problem in mate. |
| 11:47.39 | livingbeef | Borderless+maximize can emulate that to a degree, but that doesn't take care of panels |
| 11:48.16 | livingbeef | (it was in 5.11 btw) |
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| 11:51.47 | livingbeef | Alternatively, if I could convince konsole to use bold terminus characters for bold text, that would work too |
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| 13:21.56 | jankusanagi_ | "xterm -fullscreen" works here |
| 13:22.05 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma 5.12.1 |
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| 13:27.52 | daytonb | This should be a simple question. I see the shortcuts for "Toggle Present Windows (all desktops)" are "Ctrl+F10" and "Launch (C)". What is "Launch (C)"? |
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| 13:33.31 | daytonb | By the way this is Fedora 25 with KDE Plasma 5.8.4 |
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| 13:44.00 | livingbeef | jankusanagi_: ah, I didn't know about that. I was trying to use the KWin's "switch to fullscreen" thing. |
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| 13:45.12 | livingbeef | a bit annoying, not being able to use KWin's shortcut, but it will do |
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| 14:05.25 | jankusanagi_ | well, it's XTerm setting itself as "not fullscreenable" when started normally... |
| 14:05.59 | jankusanagi_ | daytonb: I think "Launch (C)" refers to one of those "multimedia keys" present on some keyboards |
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| 14:06.11 | jankusanagi_ | (and different on each keyboard xD) |
| 14:06.33 | jankusanagi_ | like "Refresh", "Back", "WWW", "Sleep"... |
| 14:07.03 | jankusanagi_ | but if you don't know what key that is, just change it to one you like, that's the whole point =) |
| 14:07.21 | shtrb | The magnificent tool network manger is, decided to apply power management over bluetooth devices (powering it off when over battery). Is there a way to adjust or disable bluetooth power management just from plasma or I need to search distribution specific settings ? |
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| 14:23.58 | sithlord48 | with KDE libs 5.43 (Qt 5.10.1) when using k3b every time i try to copy medium (i would think if tried to burn too) i get a dialog saying that the drive is open by various programs , kwin, krunner , plasmashell and a few others . can this be confirmed and can we do something about this prompt that comes up on each copy opperations |
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| 14:46.27 | jankusanagi_ | KDElibs died on 4.14.x |
| 14:46.38 | jankusanagi_ | KDE Frameworks is a different thing =) |
| 14:47.43 | sithlord48 | @jankusanagi_ yes frameworks... |
| 14:52.38 | jankusanagi_ | very weird that _kwin_ would be mentioned as using a drive xD |
| 14:52.50 | jankusanagi_ | I imagine udisks2 has gone crazy |
| 14:53.18 | sithlord48 | bash is also on teh list |
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| 15:06.19 | jankusanagi_ | well, bash makes sense |
| 15:06.22 | jankusanagi_ | kwin does not :D |
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| 15:09.51 | bsz | hi, what's the current status of hw acceleration on KDE/Wayland with NVIDIA graphics? I remember it was broken some time ago, has there been any change? |
| 15:10.11 | sithlord48 | pretty sure that is 1005 on nvidia |
| 15:10.19 | sithlord48 | **100%** |
| 15:11.23 | jankusanagi_ | it depends on what you mean by "nvidia graphics" exactly |
| 15:11.40 | jankusanagi_ | don't expect the _proprietary_ driver to run Wayland any time soon |
| 15:11.49 | jankusanagi_ | but you could probably have some success with Nouveau |
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| 15:17.45 | danci1973 | Help... My Amarok recently stopped playing streams - it still plays local files. If I run it as a different user on my machine, it works normally... |
| 15:18.34 | danci1973 | I already tried deleting all files / directories with 'amarok' in the name from my $HOME, I also tried wiping /tmp - but none of that helped. |
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| 15:19.35 | jankusanagi_ | does it show any informational messages if you run it from a Konsole window? |
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| 15:21.19 | jankusanagi_ | also, did you look at ~/.kde{4}/share/apps/amarok? |
| 15:22.35 | danci1973 | jankusanagi_: It doesn't show any messages that look 'relevant'... |
| 15:23.29 | danci1973 | jankusanagi_: What should I be looking at in ~/.kde{4}/share/apps/amarok ? I did remove it at some point (but by then it wasn't working anyway). |
| 15:23.49 | jankusanagi_ | ah, if you removed the whole directory, then nothing :D |
| 15:24.51 | jankusanagi_ | maybe you changed Phonon backends? (Qt4 editions, of course) |
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| 15:25.11 | jankusanagi_ | I doubt that would affect streams, as long as local files work, but who knows... |
| 15:25.15 | danci1973 | jankusanagi_: There is one line that I have no clue what it means: 'Calling appendChild() on a null node does nothing.'. |
| 15:25.15 | jankusanagi_ | depending on codecs... |
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| 15:26.48 | danci1973 | jankusanagi_: I haven't intentionally changed anything, but the problem appeared after I updated my distro (OpenSuSE 42.3) and rebooted the system - but updates were only LibreOffice and similar stuff. |
| 15:27.24 | danci1973 | jankusanagi_: And by 'updated' I mean only regular updates, not a major distro update... |
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| 15:55.04 | twobitsprite | Not sure if this is a KDE issue or not, but I'm running Debian with KDE in Virtualbox on a Windows host, and whenever I press Win+L while vbox and Konsole have keyboard focus, this gets displayed in my terminal https://imgur.com/a/j7gU4 (the top prompt is all that was there before, the 3 lines starting with "::1", the new prompt, and the "sl" typed on the prompt were added after hitting Win+L) |
| 15:55.50 | twobitsprite | I've searched through all the KDE and Konsole keyboard shortcuts and I don't see anything assigned to Win+L |
| 15:56.05 | twobitsprite | (Or Meta+L) |
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| 16:18.19 | jankusanagi_ | that's a GNU Bash thing, not a Konsole thing |
| 16:18.36 | jankusanagi_ | ah no, sorry |
| 16:18.38 | jankusanagi_ | wrong thing |
| 16:18.57 | Perigee | I just saw this the other day |
| 16:19.08 | Perigee | Do you have a key assigned to the Screen Locker |
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| 16:19.24 | jankusanagi_ | for the record, those lines are contents from the /etc/hosts file |
| 16:20.47 | Perigee | System Settings > Desktop Behavior > Screen Locking > Keyboard shortcut |
| 16:20.50 | Perigee | Anything there? |
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| 16:24.10 | jankusanagi_ | I don't think that has anything to do with it |
| 16:24.33 | jankusanagi_ | twobitsprite: if you edit your Konsole profile, there's a keyboard section matching keys to "terminal inputs" |
| 16:24.56 | jankusanagi_ | maybe switching to another preset would avoid that (but change other things...) |
| 16:25.02 | Perigee | jankusanagi_: I can reproduce it right now |
| 16:25.05 | jankusanagi_ | but there's something you can investigate |
| 16:25.26 | jankusanagi_ | reproduce what? |
| 16:25.35 | Perigee | his problem |
| 16:25.49 | jankusanagi_ | sure |
| 16:25.53 | jankusanagi_ | so can I on a real machine |
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| 16:26.03 | jankusanagi_ | but I doubt that has anything to do with the lockscreen |
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| 16:26.32 | Perigee | All I'm saying is if I configure a keyboard shortcut for the screen locker as Win+L, the issue goes away |
| 16:26.38 | Perigee | if I clear it, it comes back |
| 16:26.56 | jankusanagi_ | sure, but then you're overriding a problem with another |
| 16:27.11 | Perigee | Yeah I'm sure its a symptom of something |
| 16:27.21 | jankusanagi_ | Kwin will take the super+L combo and lock the screen, so the Super+L won't reach Konsole |
| 16:27.28 | jankusanagi_ | but I think that's even worse xD |
| 16:27.34 | Perigee | :P |
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| 16:28.10 | Perigee | Well let me know if oyu find the root of it :) |
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| 16:54.28 | yann-kaelig | Dolphin panel is not able to save my change done on devices section. |
| 16:55.15 | yann-kaelig | hiden devices are no more hidden nex time I start dolphin. Is it a known bug ? |
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| 17:20.57 | amsharma | anyone else facing issues with corrupted akregator feeds? https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/7yo97a/corrupted_akregator_feeds/ |
| 17:21.07 | asturm | yes |
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| 17:46.21 | kichawa | hi, when i start typing plasma was crashed |
| 17:46.33 | kichawa | i deleted baloo folder and reboot the machine |
| 17:46.36 | kichawa | still the same |
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| 18:04.43 | kichawa | i found this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363136 |
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| 18:06.39 | asturm | kichawa: so the bug is known, you should subscribe to the bug and hope for a quick fix |
| 18:07.47 | asturm | I see a review is pending already |
| 18:08.16 | asturm | kichawa: alternatively disable the bookmarks runner to see if that is the culprit |
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| 18:15.08 | kichawa | asturm: how can i do that? |
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| 18:16.42 | kichawa | anyway |
| 18:16.43 | kichawa | balooctl status |
| 18:16.43 | kichawa | Baloo is currently disabled. To enable, please run balooctl enable |
| 18:17.03 | kichawa | I have disabled it 2 reboots ago |
| 18:17.30 | asturm | kichawa: that bug isn't talking about baloo |
| 18:17.46 | asturm | kichawa: you can enable and disable runners via krunner settings |
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| 18:19.01 | thiago | the crash happens inside sqlite |
| 18:19.25 | thiago | I have several of those core dumps too |
| 18:20.36 | kichawa | yep if I disable bookmarks i krunner, i can find everythink |
| 18:20.48 | kichawa | but still there is a problem with finding in KDE manu |
| 18:20.50 | kichawa | *menu |
| 18:23.00 | kichawa | ok i found it |
| 18:23.11 | kichawa | i need to disable searching in bookmarks |
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| 18:57.04 | twobitsp1ite | jankusanagi_: looks like most of the key mappings there are in the \eXXX form... any idea what Meta-L might look like in that form? |
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| 19:33.19 | maldoinc | Hey. Quick question. I have a patch with some proposed changes for one of the plasma applications. Is there some place to discuss my proposed changes with other plasma members whether it would be of interest to fully develop this feature and also perhaps get feedback along the way. Would a Phabricator Maniphest be the right tool for this? |
| 19:34.24 | Perigee | You can ask in #kde-devel, but I would suggest submitting it through Phabricator. There it will be assigned to the application and be reviewed/commented by those responsible. |
| 19:34.36 | thiago | if you have a working patch, even if initial, you can upload it and add people to the discussion |
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| 19:34.57 | thiago | if the discussion is a bit long, maybe join the application's mailing list and ask there |
| 19:35.22 | Perigee | maldoinc: https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/development#Submitting_your_first_patch |
| 19:36.21 | maldoinc | I've already contributed stuff in the past, just this one is a bit of a quasi-working prototype and mostly looking for feedback. I'll go with a standard phabricator differential then, thanks. |
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| 19:56.20 | Marquel | morning. i'm trying to get kf5 to run on an ancient athlonxp (yes, i know, it's a mummy and i should be grateful that piece of hardware from before beinning of time still actually boots, much less runs current software), yet when compiling syntax-highlighting from source, cmake errors out with a segfault in libpcre2 - did i do something horribly wrong? |
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| 21:17.57 | illkitten | When I click on the screen rotation widget, it will not enable. Am I missing a plugin? |
| 21:20.02 | illkitten | Arch Linux and Kde plasma 5.12 |
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| 21:33.35 | jankusanagi_ | Marquel: isn't that i686? why are you building it yourself? |
| 21:39.04 | Marquel | jankusanagi_: easier than to set it up new ;) |
| 21:39.08 | Marquel | jankusanagi_: and yes. |
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| 21:40.03 | jankusanagi_ | easier than just installing a i686 distribution which includes it? O_o |
| 21:40.14 | jankusanagi_ | we have different definitions for "easy" :D |
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| 21:45.59 | Marquel | jankusanagi_: yes. |
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| 23:50.25 | ix3 | How does KDE connect, well, connect? |
| 23:50.40 | ix3 | WIFI? It obviously isn't bluetooth... |
| 23:50.52 | adomas | yes wifi |
| 23:53.03 | jankusanagi_ | it can probably work over ethernet, which makes more sense than it seems, since it can be used to connect 2 PC's =) |
| 23:55.04 | cberg | afaik the kde connect devices just have to be on the same network |
| 23:56.34 | jankusanagi_ | yes, probably |