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00:33.48gustawhoHello there! I've been learning how to build plasmoids and my first attempt resulted in "Plastweet", something similar to "Twitter for Mac" (I think that's what it's called). You can check it here http://github.com/gustawho/plastweet
00:34.09gustawhoThere's a lot to be done yet, but if you have any suggestions, please, let me know
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01:45.45valoriegustawho: you might want to join #plasma for more feedback
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02:05.36koz_I'm getting strange Alt-Tab behaviour on KDE; when I do that, sometimes the window I alt-tab to fails to render properly, leaving the old window in place, or only partially redrawing.
02:05.41koz_This doesn't happen consistently either.
02:05.52koz_Any idea what settings I could fiddle with to stop this happening?
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02:18.45Hawkmanwhat's this package for? https://i.imgur.com/UDuP1sQ.png
02:20.24Hawkmankoz_; i'm thinking, graphics drivers
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02:22.53koz_Hawkman: That's... surprising, but OK.
02:23.10koz_Main weirdness is the inconsistency of it - it only happens sometimes, when the stars align.
02:24.22Hawkmanhmm
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02:25.36Hawkmankoz_; what distro?
02:25.47koz_Hawkman: Arch Linux.
02:26.08Hawkmanthats not my specialty. sorry
02:26.16koz_Hawkman: No worries - thanks for responding anyway.
02:26.18Hawkmanbut i'll help you look
02:26.36koz_Hawkman: Where should we begin?
02:27.55Hawkmanwhen did you install arch?
02:28.19koz_Uhh, a while ago? I don't remember exactly.
02:28.27Hawkmanand what drivers did you install?
02:28.33koz_I use Nouveau.
02:28.48koz_(before you ask - my card reclocks to its highest frequency and is stable)
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02:30.34Hawkmanwhich nvidia card do you have?
02:30.44koz_GeForce GTX 680.
02:38.04Hawkmankoz_; i'm researching
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02:50.31Hawkmankoz_; did you nvidia driver before using nouveau?
02:51.14Hawkmani found people that said nouveau increases compatibility but causes some screen tearing
02:55.57koz_What exactly is screen tearing?
02:57.03Hawkmankoz_; most common in games, when the next frame is rendered halfway or in parts
02:57.30koz_So the thing I'm getting (where an alt-tab only partially-renders the target window) would be considered tearing?
02:59.00Hawkmanif it's like this,
02:59.01Hawkmanhttps://iwf1.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Nvidia-tearing.jpg
02:59.03Hawkmanthen yes
03:02.31koz_No, that's not what it's like.
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03:02.51koz_It's like, you get the toolbar of one window and the body of a different window at the same time after an alt-tab.
03:02.54koz_For several seconds if not more.
03:03.04koz_Sometimes passing the mouse over it redraws it properly, sometimes now.
03:03.08koz_s/now/not/
03:05.31Hawkmanwhat's the cpu and ram usage when the tearing occurs?
03:05.42koz_I haven't checked - let me find out.
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03:06.12Hawkmancpu and ram specs too plz
03:06.57koz_OK, just happened, nothing out of the ordinary. 16G of RAM, clocked at 1600MHz; CPU is an Intel Core i3-4160, with 2 cores (4 threads) at 3.6GHz.
03:07.14koz_('nothing out of the ordinary' - no spiking of RAM or CPU use out of the ordinary)
03:07.20koz_s/-/=/
03:10.56HawkmanSo far I think there are 2 possibilities. 1: the graphics card has hardware damage (likeliness depends on its age), or 2: Nouveau doesn't work well with your setup (More plausible).
03:11.20koz_I would sooner suspect 2; 1 would imply I'd get (for example) weird degradation on games, which doesn't happen.
03:11.32koz_I'll ask the Nouveau devs if anyone's reported any KDE issues to them.
03:12.04Hawkmanalright
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06:09.39kishore96Can someone confirm that the 'bookmarks' runner in krunner doesn't work any more?
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06:15.25kishore96Never mind. It's a browser issue.
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09:17.50pdobrogostHi all!
09:18.51pdobrogostWhy clicking "Setup NAP network" in bluetooth system settings module does nothing?
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10:01.50david89Hello. I have a couple domains I want to exclude from my configured proxy. I have set http{s}_proxy and no_proxy environment variables and they seem to work (ie. git is respecting no_proxy). I would like to do the same thing with akonadi, but it doesn't seem to be working. Am I missing something?
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10:11.11pdobrogostdavid89: Try setting NO_PROXY (uppercase) in addition to no_proxy.
10:11.36pdobrogostdavid89: https://superuser.com/q/944958/664
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10:29.43david89pdobrogost: Does this mean anything? https://github.com/KDE/akonadi/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=no_proxy&type=
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10:32.05pdobrogostNot much as it probably uses some other kde libs for networking.
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11:01.51kiao2938Hi everyone, i am currently playing around with bash scripts and searching for something like kdialog --progressbar but instead of an dialog i want a progress bar in the system tray. i already tried to use "qdbus --literal org.kde.kuiserver /JobViewServer org.kde.JobViewServer.requestView" but this does not work either.
11:02.49kiao2938is there a an easy way to show a progress bar in system tray?
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11:06.57BluesKajHowdy folks
11:08.00kiao2938hi
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11:23.42yann-kaeligHi. How can I see only current desktop applications on the panel, instead of all desktop
11:24.08hateballyann-kaelig: rightclick the panel and go into settings
11:24.38hateballscroll down and tick the box for only show current desktop
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11:29.20yann-kaeligHi hateball. Well right click on the panel I can see panel options > panel settings > more settings. OR task manager settings but I don't see any "only show current desktop"
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11:29.56hateballyann-kaelig: it would be settings for task manager yes
11:30.35hateballscroll down and there should be a "filter" section
11:30.40hateballwith like 4 checkboxes
11:31.11hateballI have swedish locale maybe I have the wrong translations in my head
11:31.40yann-kaeligha! lol I didn't see tha I can scrool down ...
11:32.02yann-kaeligtoo much option kill the options
11:32.06yann-kaelig:)
11:32.20yann-kaeligthx
11:32.23hateballthat's kinda the whole idea with plasma ;p
11:32.24hateballchoice
11:33.14yann-kaeligyes that a good idea, but it's only my opinion that coudl be a little optimized , my case is a good example of what can happend
11:33.17yann-kaeligbut thx
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11:33.35hateballI personally think the window could be expanded to full size by default
11:33.46hateballfew people use 320x200 screens any more
11:33.47yann-kaeligI agree
11:33.51yann-kaeligright
11:34.02ellenhey everyone. screen locking options aren't showing up in this system. any ideas how to fix it? thanks https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/vwRZQJVA/Screenshot_20171129_093149.png
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11:36.36yann-kaeliganother idea could be for example to use the wasted place in the left colomn and for example move the filters option as a new menu in the left General,  Filters, keyboard shortcuts
11:37.23hateballyann-kaelig: can always leave an RFE here https://bugs.kde.org :)
11:38.19yann-kaeligok thx hateball.  I will work on this and create a draft with gimp.
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11:39.16hateballyann-kaelig: good luck !
11:39.55yann-kaeligor take a time to learn the code source and it myself ^^
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11:39.58hateballyann-kaelig: the window itself can be resized to hide the scrollbars, and it remembers the size
11:40.03yann-kaeligmake*
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11:40.58ciscellen: check if you have kscreenlocker, libKScreenLocker5, or depending on distro, the package kde-config-screenlocker
11:41.18ellencisc: ohh okay, thank you
11:41.54yann-kaelighateball: I'm testing the option remember > right click > more option > special application settings > size and position > remember the position BUT that doesn't work everytime. Sometime the position is lost but the option is activated
11:43.59yann-kaeligalso from the same settings, size > remembre is not very good, because for example on dolphin all windowz take teh same size and it's visualy not good
11:45.36yann-kaeligI mean all windows from a same application take the size of the parent windows
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11:51.21yann-kaeliggood thing is now kde is stable and tha very good point
11:52.11ellenthat worked cisc, thanks a bunch :)
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11:56.41yann-kaeligCan I hide the description shown from each software in the apllication launcher. I'm in the KDE menu editor but I don't see anything like that for now
11:58.56toskyyann-kaelig: there is setting in the application launcher
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11:59.46toskyyann-kaelig: uh, no, I stand corrected: you can't from the application launcher; you can from the "application menu" (aka the classic menu)
12:00.03toskyit's not something you want to do from the menu editor; it's a rendering option
12:00.22toskyso it depends on the program that displays the menu
12:01.43yann-kaeligha, sorting application by name is a little mroe interesting
12:01.45yann-kaeligmore
12:02.17yann-kaeligfrom application laucnher settings
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12:34.09ciscellen: sure
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13:44.39toxicity[m]Has somebody also the issue that plasma wayland keeps crashing with an alternative app menu?
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14:03.23dorschhi, is it possible to use a different number of workspaces on each activity?
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14:37.39delightHi there does anyone know if there are possibilites to use fish:// inside dolphin with a socks proxy ? I tried with tscocks dolphin, but it didn't work for me :-(
14:38.14delightDynamicForward ssh Socks Proxy
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14:49.16edotenseihello guys
14:49.19edotenseineed a bit of help
14:49.48hateballasking a question is step 1
14:49.56edotenseity
14:50.01edotenseiis just about panels
14:50.16edotenseii messed something in the options and now i cant figure out what
14:50.38edotenseiwhen i run a program i dont have that large kida iacon that tells me what is runninmg
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14:50.54edotenseiif i run firefox there would bve a large square showing firefox
14:51.08edotenseinow there nothing onyl widgets i added
14:51.32hateballsounds like you removed the task manager widget from the panel
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14:53.12edotenseii added the icons only taks manager
14:53.13edotenseiis that it
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14:53.50edotenseialso those icnons are way to small
14:54.00edotenseibut i could not find the way to make them larger when i pin them
14:54.09edotenseithose options ive seen on the we are not working
14:54.14hateballthey scale with the size of your panel I think?
14:54.20hateballI dont use icons so cant say
14:54.47edotenseithey do but id really have to make a huge panel which beats the point
14:55.04edotenseilike the icons that i added as widgets
14:55.11edotenseiare just the right size
14:55.29edotenseibut those widgets dont react if the program is actually runiing
14:55.38edotenseinow i dont know how to remove those widgets
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14:57.56leszekedotensei: yeah widgets of launchers are bigger than the icons only taskbar pinned apps
14:59.25edotenseiwell it suks that i cant chage it
15:02.12edotenseiwell ive fugured out how to remove those widgets
15:02.12leszekI don't think its technically trivial to do this
15:02.40edotenseithere was a solution to chage the size of those in the file that is in the config
15:02.46leszekyou need some margins for progressbar and multiple counter
15:02.58edotenseibut when i opened the file there was only a fewe line of code
15:03.08edotenseiand the file was not xml but something else
15:03.17leszeknot sure what you mean
15:03.23edotenseiill show you in a sec
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15:03.51leszekof course you can try editing the sourcecode in qml but it will break other stuff I fear
15:04.18edotensei~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
15:04.23edotenseii need to open that file
15:04.27edotenseiands change size in ther
15:04.35edotenseibut that file i guess used to be xml
15:04.58edotenseinow its qml and there are no lines of code that i can relate to the icon size
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15:06.21edotenseii foudn the options to change icons size in the icons menu in settings
15:06.35edotenseibut it seems i need to reset the pc for the change to work
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15:50.41delightdoes someone know a GUI tool that can do sftp over a socks proxy ? prefareable kde
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16:18.49kishore96If it's just simple file transfer, Dolphin has fish support, which IIUC, will transfer the files over ssh.
16:19.50delightkishore96: I know about fish but I could not get it working over a socks proxy
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16:27.02delightkishore96: its fine I still can use ssh / sftp /rsync on command line by calling it with tsocks ssh etc. but it would have been really nice to have a graphical tool that could use a Socks Proxy ... tsocks dolphin didn't do the trick for me :-(
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17:03.02delightwhere would I issue a bug about dolphin ? can someone hint me on that please ? thnx
17:03.43tsaka__Hello. I have 2 computers with Fedora 27 on a LAN. I can control the volume of one computer from the other using ssh and the pactl command. Is there any way to do it with GUI instead? For example, a volume slider for the other computer
17:04.03delightssh -X ?
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17:04.47delighttsaka__: and than simply start your favorite gui to controll your pulse
17:05.20tsaka__delight: any examples of such GUIs=
17:06.48delighthttp://bfy.tw/FIWS <<< probably
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17:07.23delighte.g. pavucontrol
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17:14.05tsaka__delight: good try, but no cigar .. "ssh -X; pavucontrol" gives me a window "Establishing connection to PulseAudio.. Please wait" have waited minutes now
17:14.59delighttsaka__ that command can't work ... try man ssh
17:15.51tsaka__it's just shorthand for 2 commands. first i do "ssh -X othermachine.local", then wait for connection, then type pavucontrol
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17:17.47delighttsaka__: weird
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18:41.03kishore96delight: https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=dolphin
18:41.31kishore96Dolphin bugtracker.
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20:53.09irishman2020any way to customize kde plasma/dolphin  to make an audible notification when a file transfer is complete?
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22:45.18shevchukHello. I have a problem with Meta (Win) key not opening app launcher. I'm using fullscreen app dashboard, Alt+F1 is working, but not Meta. I'm on 17.10 with kubuntu-backports, so Plasma 5.11.3. It stopped working in September I think (I was o 17.04 without kubuntu backports back then). On my other computers with clean 17.10 + kubuntu backports install it does work, so it's something with my setup, but I'm not sure know where should I
22:45.19shevchukstart to figure what's causing the problem. Any ideas?
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23:08.05shevchukTried resetting all keyboard shortcuts to default, and then reassigning Alt+F1 to app launcher, no effect: Alt+F1 works, Meta doesn't
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23:27.17shevchukHm... it actually works for some time after reboot. For a minute maybe. Then stops working. I will check if other apps affect this
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