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| 00:25.01 | qwidj | iwant to encrypt drive that contains home folder |
| 00:25.18 | qwidj | how can i be prompted for the encryption password upon login, is it possible |
| 00:25.27 | qwidj | sorry my question mark key isn't working |
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| 02:38.29 | kage | qwidj: what distro? |
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| 03:37.27 | qwidj | kage: Fedora |
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| 04:06.14 | kage | qwidj: are you wanting to encypt your home directory or your home drive? |
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| 04:13.04 | kage | qwidj: really I wouldn't encypt your home directory but just your sensitive documents. I think you would need to unencypt your home directory before you login so really you need to look into sometype kdm script |
| 04:14.18 | kage | Or I guess it's SSDM on newer versions of KDE |
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| 04:21.24 | kage | qwidj: I think the folks in #sddm can help you more then I can. |
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| 04:39.27 | Triffid_Hunter | hi all, my panels sometimes refuse to autohide, is there a known fix or a bug I can track somewhere? |
| 04:46.45 | DarinMiller | Triffid_Hunter: what version of plasma? |
| 04:47.13 | Triffid_Hunter | DarinMiller: 5.37.0 |
| 04:47.56 | DarinMiller | I think that's the frameworks version, alt+_spacebar then type kinfo |
| 04:48.54 | Triffid_Hunter | DarinMiller: oh right, 5.10.5 then |
| 04:49.06 | DarinMiller | Plasma in the 5.6 to 5.8 range had issues with Autohide and window can cover options. |
| 04:49.37 | Triffid_Hunter | I had some issues with the panels refusing to show, but that turned out to be because I had focus steal prevention cranked right up |
| 04:49.57 | DarinMiller | Hmmm, 5.10.5 should be fine. By chance is a window in task manager highlighted to indicate attention is needed. |
| 04:50.05 | DarinMiller | ? |
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| 04:50.32 | Triffid_Hunter | is that a thing? can I make it still autohide if there is one? |
| 04:51.48 | DarinMiller | For instance, Konversation will bring up the panel if someone addresses me directly. Once I give konversation focus, the panel goes away... |
| 04:52.25 | Triffid_Hunter | that's problematic.. sometimes I'm in the middle of something and don't want to break my workflow |
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| 04:53.18 | Triffid_Hunter | also it's really difficult to see which app icons on the panel want attention, they seem to look almost identical to ones that are simply on the current desktop |
| 04:53.30 | Triffid_Hunter | so I may simply have not noticed that that's happening |
| 04:53.50 | Triffid_Hunter | in kde4 I always had tons of problems with the panel flagging random apps for attention even when they didn't want any but this seems somehow different |
| 04:55.00 | Triffid_Hunter | so I suppose I'll keep an eye out both for the panel not hiding when something wants attention, and an option to make it autohide anyway even if something does want attention |
| 04:55.37 | DarinMiller | Due to previous issues with autohide (bugs have now been fixed), I use the "windows can cover" option, but I think the panel behaves the same with either option now. |
| 04:57.02 | DarinMiller | Not sure how to fix the issue you see. Sometimes I tap the super key and it will re-hide the panel on the 2nd tap. |
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| 05:18.56 | Triffid_Hunter | DarinMiller: super tap eh? I'll try that too |
| 05:19.33 | Triffid_Hunter | thanks |
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| 08:10.40 | granitosaurus | I'm having trouble with Konsole failing to display unicode since update from two months ago or so |
| 08:10.56 | granitosaurus | anyknow knows how it initiates encoding? |
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| 10:17.20 | fschutt | Please help, what's happening with my screen: https://i.imgur.com/BDMGFVb.jpg |
| 10:17.46 | fschutt | The fonts. Some weird shader is blurring everything, I can barely read the fonts |
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| 10:35.09 | kishore96 | Someone tell him to look at the subpixel hinting settings if he comes back. |
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| 10:43.46 | oprypin | like who puts screenshots in a heavily compressed jpeg in $CURRENT_YEAR |
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| 11:45.51 | psychedelicious | What is the recommended way for typing Indian languages in KDE? Ibus / Fcitx etc?? |
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| 12:16.56 | physkets | Hi! |
| 12:17.02 | physkets | krunner categorizes 'djvu' files as images |
| 12:17.38 | physkets | while technically correct, such files are usually documents, and should be categorized as such |
| 12:17.44 | physkets | is that not so? |
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| 13:31.10 | shtrb | could it be that redshift had been installed without a widget ? |
| 13:31.17 | shtrb | and running |
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| 13:33.32 | shtrb | Either that or my screen descided to shift colors during work hour |
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| 13:56.13 | kishore96 | physkets: Yes. I'm not sure how to change that. You might want to experiment with moving the 'djvu' file association from the 'images' subsection to 'application'. |
| 13:56.45 | kishore96 | shtrb: IIRC, you can have it without a widget. |
| 13:57.56 | kishore96 | shtrb: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/redshift#Autostart |
| 13:58.14 | kishore96 | Check if it's installed and started by one of those methods. |
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| 14:00.25 | shtrb | thanks |
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| 14:18.38 | physkets | kishore96: Okay, I did that; but krunner still puts it under image. Do I have to mkae krunner/baloo refresh their cache? |
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| 14:22.01 | qwidj | kage: thanks |
| 14:22.16 | qwidj | yeah home directory |
| 14:22.19 | qwidj | separate partition |
| 14:22.40 | qwidj | thing is i wasn't sure to what extent the login screen is dependent on data found in ~ |
| 14:22.55 | qwidj | and where that separatino is, like when KDE begins trying to read from ~ |
| 14:23.01 | qwidj | i'll check out what you mentioned |
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| 14:50.13 | physkets | kishore96: also, I'm unable to delete the other entry under 'image'; It looks like only custom entries are deletable. |
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| 15:05.43 | kishore96 | physkets: That |
| 15:05.58 | kishore96 | That's probably because it |
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| 15:06.24 | kishore96 | physkets: *That's probably because it's defined systemwide by the mime-types package. |
| 15:06.50 | physkets | I see... hmm... so should I open a bug report? |
| 15:06.50 | kishore96 | Not sure if changing it would actually do the trick. |
| 15:07.26 | physkets | we could have '.djv' under image and '.djvu' under application/dacument |
| 15:07.38 | physkets | currently, both are under image |
| 15:09.10 | kishore96 | physkets: The bug would probably be against the mime-types definition (maybe try editing '/etc/mime.types' ?). I'm not sure if krunner or the system settings thingy can overwrite that. No harm in filing a bug report, just to get that cleared up, I guess. |
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| 15:11.12 | physkets | I've currently just deleted the 'filename patterns' under the image/vnd.jdvu |
| 15:11.26 | physkets | hmm.. funny thing, the fiels get re-populated automatically |
| 15:11.30 | physkets | I can't delete them |
| 15:13.32 | kishore96 | Interesting. |
| 15:14.00 | kishore96 | physkets: Is this in the system settings thing, or are you editing /etc/mime.types |
| 15:14.02 | kishore96 | ? |
| 15:14.19 | physkets | hmmm... I'd rather file a bug than edit it myself |
| 15:14.29 | physkets | so it's a gentoo package, eh? |
| 15:14.54 | kishore96 | Looks like it. xD |
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| 15:19.01 | kishore96 | physkets: https://github.com/ranger/ranger/issues/201 Looks like it's possible to override the system mime-types definition per user. You should probably file a bug against the system settings thingy too, since it should either overrider predefined mime types using that method, or it should give a warning that the type isn't editable. |
| 15:19.10 | kishore96 | *override |
| 15:19.40 | kishore96 | I'm not sure if that is ranger-specific, though. |
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| 15:23.34 | kishore96 | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30931/register-file-extensions-mime-types-in-linux |
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| 15:28.13 | physkets | I wrote to the maintainer of the package... lets see. |
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| 15:28.22 | physkets | the gentoo package |
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| 15:34.29 | shtrb | kidhore96 , that is crazy , I had to install the redshift app to get my screen back :-( |
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| 15:51.56 | physkets | your machine must've caught the blueshift disease... |
| 15:52.01 | kishore96 | lol |
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| 15:52.34 | kishore96 | How did redshift get installed, though? |
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| 15:52.55 | physkets | what distro? |
| 15:53.23 | shtrb | It was installed in the past and removed (I'm with Debian ) |
| 15:53.54 | physkets | ah, then it probably left some 'gamma' settings altered |
| 15:54.05 | shtrb | It was uninstalled few months ago ... |
| 15:54.22 | shtrb | the issue start just after a debian upgrade |
| 15:54.37 | shtrb | physkets , what is blueshift ? |
| 15:54.51 | physkets | I was just joking... |
| 15:55.02 | shtrb | oh |
| 15:55.15 | physkets | blueshifts and redshifts are opposite effects |
| 15:55.48 | physkets | relativistic doppler |
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| 16:24.00 | physkets | Does KDE have virtual-keyboards? Any that I can use to phonetically type in other languages? |
| 16:24.14 | shtrb | Iyes |
| 16:24.37 | shtrb | physkets , there is a virtual keyboard (kvkbd ) I have no idea what the other part of your question mean |
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| 16:25.53 | tosky | no, that's not useful anymore |
| 16:26.02 | physkets | oh :( why not? |
| 16:26.07 | tosky | the latest Plasma versions depends on another one |
| 16:26.19 | shtrb | which one ? |
| 16:26.35 | shtrb | kvkbd seem to be still working :) |
| 16:26.42 | tosky | qtvirtualkeyboard |
| 16:26.54 | physkets | how do I use it? |
| 16:27.09 | shtrb | install , and click ? |
| 16:27.22 | tosky | kvkbd is Qt4-only |
| 16:27.22 | physkets | I do have it installed. How do I call it? |
| 16:27.36 | shtrb | All praise Qt4 |
| 16:27.49 | tosky | I don't know how it works right now |
| 16:27.51 | physkets | I mean qt5-virtualkeyboard. How do I use it? |
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| 16:28.15 | tosky | and for non-latin languages there are the frontends for the usual input methods |
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| 16:28.36 | shtrb | If you are using anything other than US-Ascii prepare to have a fun day |
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| 16:29.25 | physkets | okay, but how do I use this qtvirtualkeyboard? |
| 16:29.35 | tosky | I understand what you mean, but the sentence is more correct if you say "other than Latin characters" |
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| 16:29.54 | tosky | I don't know how to use that |
| 16:29.58 | physkets | ah |
| 16:30.05 | tosky | I know that the lock screen integrates it |
| 16:30.17 | tosky | but I don't know if specific code was needed |
| 16:30.21 | tosky | https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2017/03/virtual-keyboard-on-lock-screen/ |
| 16:30.52 | physkets | ah... then KDE should have an app that uses it too! |
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| 16:31.41 | shtrb | I wonder what will happen with sddm if anyone needed a password in non "Latin" |
| 16:32.05 | tosky | physkets: https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtvirtualkeyboard-deployment-guide.html#loading-the-plugin |
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| 16:32.28 | shtrb | is sddm still connected to plasma ? |
| 16:32.29 | tosky | physkets: it's not a matter of having an application |
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| 16:32.35 | tosky | shtrb: it was never connected to plasma |
| 16:33.02 | shtrb | oh , but it was forced on me because of newer plasma version |
| 16:33.02 | tosky | it is recommended by the Plasma team, but it's an external project |
| 16:33.52 | physkets | What do you mean when you say that it isn't a matter of having an app? |
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| 16:34.56 | asturm | shtrb: whatever is 'forced' on you is done by your distribution, but you can pick any other DM of your choice |
| 16:35.28 | shtrb | you are correct |
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| 16:35.57 | tosky | physkets: it's something that should work regardless of the application - do you want to create another text editor just to have that keyboard, or do you have it working with your existing kate instance? |
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| 16:39.12 | physkets | tosky: I mean that there should be a virt keybord that can (i) show keys from other languages that I can click and use with my mouse, and (ii) translate phonetically, my key-presses into the script of a chose language. |
| 16:39.33 | physkets | the second is a stretch, but the first should already be possible |
| 16:40.00 | tosky | physkets: so the point is how to integrate that keyboard provided by Qt |
| 16:40.12 | tosky | no need to create a new one |
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| 16:40.51 | physkets | yep |
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| 16:42.14 | physkets | Shouldn't an on-screen keyboard be an 'Accessibility' feature? |
| 16:42.37 | physkets | even windows has something like that |
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| 16:50.31 | Leoneof | hi, how to fix kdeconnect cannot pair, "Error trying to pair: This device cannot be paired because it is running an old version of KDE Connect." |
| 16:50.47 | Leoneof | using Debian buster, android 6 |
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| 16:56.20 | physkets | Install a newer version of it, Leoneof ? |
| 16:57.01 | Leoneof | physkets: i installed from google latest version, and now from f-droid older version, still same message |
| 16:57.39 | physkets | are you sure that is the old one? You are running Debian... |
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| 16:58.28 | physkets | what are the versions of KDEConnect on your phone and machine? |
| 17:00.17 | Leoneof | physkets: kdeconnect v1.0 , kdeconnect-android v1.6.3 |
| 17:00.47 | Leoneof | oh wait |
| 17:00.50 | physkets | so which is the old one |
| 17:00.54 | Leoneof | kdeconnect v 1.0.3-2 |
| 17:00.57 | Leoneof | :] |
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| 17:03.44 | tosky | Leoneof: I'm on testing and I see my phone (kdeconnect on the phone is 1.6.6) |
| 17:04.04 | Leoneof | oh :| |
| 17:08.14 | Leoneof | tosky: i deleted/purged app and data on android, and debian too, then installed again from google play, still same problem |
| 17:10.44 | tosky | Leoneof: I wonder why you get 1.6.3 on Android and not 1.6.6 |
| 17:10.49 | tosky | it should not matter though |
| 17:11.43 | Leoneof | tosky: well, because it's said my kdeconnect is old, I thought it would work with 1.6.3 :| |
| 17:12.00 | Leoneof | however, i'm running 1.6.6 now |
| 17:12.21 | kishore96 | It might be that the one on your computer is old. |
| 17:12.29 | kishore96 | *too |
| 17:12.58 | Leoneof | kishore96: but it's working with tosky, same version O_O |
| 17:13.50 | tosky | and it's not just an old phone; I paired a new phone 2 weeks ago |
| 17:14.14 | physkets | tosky: what the version of kdeconnect on your computer? |
| 17:14.20 | physkets | *is |
| 17:14.43 | tosky | physkets: uhm, almost the same as Leoneof: 1.0.3-1 |
| 17:14.48 | physkets | oh |
| 17:14.56 | Leoneof | i have 1.0.3-2 |
| 17:15.01 | tosky | Leoneof: it does not exist |
| 17:15.05 | tosky | not on Debian |
| 17:15.12 | tosky | not until this morning at least |
| 17:15.58 | physkets | then how did you install it, and why did you install an older version? |
| 17:15.59 | tosky | not even now: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kdeconnect |
| 17:16.12 | tosky | Leoneof: did you mix the repositories with ubuntu or other sources? |
| 17:16.32 | tosky | physkets: the problem is the opposite |
| 17:16.47 | tosky | my system use the last version provided by Debian ever |
| 17:16.48 | Leoneof | oops, sorry, it's 1.0.3-1, how I did see 1.0.3-2? |
| 17:16.53 | Leoneof | tosky: ^ |
| 17:16.55 | tosky | ooook :) |
| 17:17.11 | tosky | then... I don't know |
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| 17:35.00 | feep | hi |
| 17:35.05 | feep | how do I turn off semantic analysis in kdevelop? |
| 17:35.43 | feep | I have highlight semantic problems off but I still get annoying "problem in semantic analysis" popups that get in my way and distract me |
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| 17:39.40 | feep | is there a patch to turn it off, I'm willing to rebuild kdevelop because of how incredibly annoying these bogus non-errors are |
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| 18:35.16 | systemmm | Hi, I`d like to hear from kde lovers. Why kde is better then GNOME? or Why do you love KDE? |
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| 18:37.24 | oprypin | just look at videos of GNOME and you will see |
| 18:37.31 | baizon | systemmm: i dont love kde, tried both. KDE is more usable for me then gnome so i picked it :) |
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| 18:41.54 | shtrb | systemmm , it's like beef everyone have their own preferences. |
| 18:42.55 | systemmm | oprypin, is the layout that you doesn`t like or the gnome apps? |
| 18:43.29 | systemmm | shtrb yes, of course, I am just trying to listem others to form my opinion |
| 18:44.01 | shtrb | If you go to food festival do you listen to others or taste it yourself ? choose what suite you best |
| 18:44.13 | shtrb | also plasma and not KDE |
| 18:44.27 | oprypin | oh jesus christ |
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| 18:44.58 | systemmm | I tasted both |
| 18:45.05 | systemmm | For 1 mouth each |
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| 18:45.19 | systemmm | I can`t dicide what I am going to use |
| 18:45.54 | tosky | but then asking others can only complicate things |
| 18:45.59 | tosky | try to use both a bit more |
| 18:46.11 | shtrb | Are you using PIM ? |
| 18:47.05 | systemmm | What is PIM? |
| 18:47.05 | shtrb | compare kontact to evolution and see what you like more (you can install each on the other system) , but kontact is better integrated with plasma and evolution with gnome |
| 18:47.16 | shtrb | personal information managment |
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| 18:47.29 | shtrb | email , contacts , address , calendars etc |
| 18:48.21 | oprypin | shtrb, you're saying that as if the average person has any interest in these abominable products |
| 18:48.40 | systemmm | I am going to install cinnamon and compare kate with gedit, dolphin with nautilus, gmd3 with ..... |
| 18:49.37 | shtrb | orpypin , ok what very daily products you are going to show to the average user ? |
| 18:50.16 | oprypin | Dolphin, Kate, Okular, Gwenview, Konversation |
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| 18:50.50 | oprypin | Ark, Yakuake, Klipper |
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| 18:51.24 | shtrb | other than dolphin all can be simply installed on gnome (without too many stuff ) |
| 18:52.10 | oprypin | k |
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| 18:54.01 | systemmm | What do you think about gnome moral? |
| 18:54.19 | systemmm | About user side |
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| 19:02.18 | tosky | systemmm: it's not relevant for this channel |
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| 22:25.25 | anticupidon | just found out that akademy 2017 was held in Almeria, where i live....i just did't know... |
| 22:26.33 | anticupidon | bummer, i wanted to help somehow |
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| 22:41.01 | NanoSector | hey, I have installed a plasmoid but whenever I add it to the panel or the desktop, it doesn't want to load. plasmoidviewer gives me a blank window as well. any ideas how to find out why this happens? |
| 22:41.48 | jankusanagi_ | does it have any configuration available? |
| 22:42.13 | NanoSector | how can I check? |
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| 22:47.48 | jankusanagi_ | right-click on it |
| 22:49.23 | NanoSector | nothing happens |
| 22:49.38 | NanoSector | right click on it in the widget add menu you mean? |
| 22:50.24 | jankusanagi_ | if you drag the plasmoid to the desktop, an empty plasmoid appears, or nothing appears? |
| 22:50.29 | NanoSector | nothing happens |
| 22:50.41 | jankusanagi_ | ah, then forget the right-clicking thing :D |
| 22:50.45 | NanoSector | :P |
| 22:51.22 | NanoSector | it shows up in the system tray settings as well and is enabled |
| 22:51.24 | NanoSector | but you guessed it |
| 22:51.27 | NanoSector | nothing happens in the system tray |
| 22:51.43 | jankusanagi_ | I imagine you could quit plasmashell and start plasmashell from a Konsole window, to see debug info when you try to add it |
| 22:51.53 | NanoSector | that's a good one |
| 22:52.13 | jankusanagi_ | or play with kdebugdialog5 and enable debug messages for the plasmashell process |
| 22:52.49 | NanoSector | "trying to show an empty dialog" |
| 22:55.02 | NanoSector | there's no mention of this specific plasmoid in the regular plasmashell log |
| 22:55.18 | NanoSector | it'sthis one by the way: https://github.com/Martchus/syncthingtray |
| 22:56.38 | NanoSector | i love how you can murder the shell by the way and Plasma still stands, lol |
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| 23:02.46 | NanoSector | meh, i guess it's no biggie. i can always drop a web browser widget pointing to my localhost syncthing and get nearly the same thing, lol |
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| 23:17.06 | swiftarrow | Hi people! I've been running Linux Mint KDE for a while, but have found that I don't need all the "bling" that KDE comes with. |
| 23:17.25 | swiftarrow | Any suggestions on a light-weight KDE? |
| 23:17.33 | swiftarrow | distro |
| 23:17.35 | swiftarrow | ? |
| 23:21.06 | NanoSector | if you want to go really light, lxqt is basically KDE Essential Edition |
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| 23:22.00 | jankusanagi_ | no, it's not xD |
| 23:22.29 | swiftarrow | First time I'm hearing about KDE Essential Edition... |
| 23:22.32 | jankusanagi_ | swiftarrow: you can remove or disable the parts of Plasma's "bling" you don't want or need |
| 23:22.47 | jankusanagi_ | swiftarrow: that's not a thing, NanoSector was joking |
| 23:22.49 | NanoSector | it's not literally that but it is comparable to plasma and pretty barebones |
| 23:23.06 | jankusanagi_ | comparable to Plasma? no way :D |
| 23:23.12 | swiftarrow | jankusanagi, yes, I 'm aware of that. |
| 23:23.12 | NanoSector | not in functionality, no |
| 23:35.20 | M_aD | swiftarrow 380 to 490 mb of ram usage light enough? |
| 23:35.31 | swiftarrow | woow.. |
| 23:35.39 | M_aD | Try Kaos |
| 23:35.42 | swiftarrow | which is that? |
| 23:35.47 | swiftarrow | ok |
| 23:36.33 | swiftarrow | @M_aD, you use Kaos? |
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| 23:37.40 | M_aD | From time to time, it's a gtk free, pure kde plasma, Qt focused distro |
| 23:38.15 | swiftarrow | Can I run GTK apps on it? |
| 23:38.21 | swiftarrow | Gnucash being the main one |
| 23:38.43 | M_aD | Read the info on their site ;) |
| 23:38.55 | swiftarrow | Right, lol |
| 23:39.38 | M_aD | Getting late here so I'm off to get some sleep |
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| 23:43.07 | swiftarrow | good night, and thanks! |
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| 23:51.38 | kiroma | How do I describe KDE to a friend? |
| 23:51.55 | swiftarrow | do they use windows, mac or some other linux? |
| 23:52.14 | kiroma | They started using Ubuntu recently. |
| 23:52.17 | jankusanagi_ | KDE is a community of people, maybe you want to describe Plasma? =) |
| 23:52.26 | kiroma | No, I want KDE. |
| 23:52.47 | jankusanagi_ | ah, then: KDE is a world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators and facilitators who are committed to Free Software development. This community has created hundreds of Free Software applications as part of the KDE frameworks, workspaces and applications. |
| 23:53.07 | kiroma | Nice. |
| 23:53.35 | jankusanagi_ | it's right there in the About KDE dialog :D |
| 23:54.49 | kiroma | Oh, right. Well thanks anyways. |
| 23:55.36 | jankusanagi_ | np |
