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| 00:55.23 | elvisthedj | Hi! I'm running konsole with TERM=xterm-256color, but if I create a shortcut to a terminal app and "Run In Terminal", it defaults to 8 colors. Starting Konsole and then running the app works fine. Does this skip .bashrc when you do a shortcut to a terminal app? I made a shortcut to "tput colors" and it says 8 |
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| 02:31.02 | anug | i thave this problem https://forum.manjaro.org/t/cannot-talk-to-klauncher-when-using-partitionmanager/17268/9 |
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| 05:47.14 | WalterKurtz | Hi everybody! I use KDE's biult in chat application on Kubuntu 16.04 LTS with XMPP accounts. The "audio call" and "video call" buttons are always inactive and I can't find a way make them active, or set the devices. Can anyone help me out? |
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| 06:14.33 | Tuxtoriel | WalterKurtz: which app is it? |
| 06:15.49 | WalterKurtz | It's a telepathy front-end as far as I know but strangely the help doesn's say too much about it. |
| 06:15.59 | Tuxtoriel | Does anybody know if it is possible to set up a shortcut to enable / disable the Gestures? |
| 06:16.17 | Tuxtoriel | hm⦠|
| 06:16.41 | WalterKurtz | It's on the tray out of the box. |
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| 06:17.18 | Tuxtoriel | « http://kubuntu.org/feature-tour/ > KDE Telepathy?» |
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| 06:24.50 | WalterKurtz | Yes it's KDE-Telepathy |
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| 06:28.54 | WalterKurtz | Tuxtoriel yes it's the application on the link above. But there's nothing but a screenshot. |
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| 06:36.16 | Tuxtoriel | WalterKurtz: There must be an addon to install. Checking it out ⦠|
| 06:36.40 | Tuxtoriel | (I mean an additional package to install) |
| 06:37.53 | Tuxtoriel | yes, «telepathy-kde-â¦Â» |
| 06:38.16 | Tuxtoriel | But which one, I don't know, I haven't installed them. |
| 06:38.54 | WalterKurtz | I check it but I think it's must be installed because chat works. |
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| 06:41.19 | WalterKurtz | As I expected: |
| 06:41.22 | WalterKurtz | kde-telepathy is already the newest version (15.04.20ubuntu1) |
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| 06:43.58 | WalterKurtz | It's a bit straange that KDE installs with this application on the tray by default, and no documentation for this, also no way to set it up. Only the basic functions are working. |
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| 06:45.09 | WalterKurtz | I didn't mentioned but, it's quite obvious that my webcam and microphone work OK with other applications. |
| 06:45.37 | WalterKurtz | So they are set properly. |
| 06:46.54 | WalterKurtz | In the past I was able to make video calls with Jitsi, so it's not a connection issue. |
| 06:47.25 | WalterKurtz | I just thought I use the built-in default application... |
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| 06:52.45 | WalterKurtz | Once again:it's very strange to me that KDE installs an application by default, which has so limited useability. |
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| 06:57.12 | Tuxtoriel | WalterKurtz: did you check out the list of packages starting with «telepathy-kde» ? (that's what I wanted to say ;·) ) |
| 06:57.39 | WalterKurtz | All of them are installed. |
| 06:59.59 | WalterKurtz | Does anybody use kde-telepathy at all? |
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| 07:01.49 | Tuxtoriel | ah, can't help further, sorry! |
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| 07:09.29 | WalterKurtz | Tuxtoriel: no problem. And thank you for trying so far. |
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| 07:16.55 | Tuxtoriel | you're welcome :·) |
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| 07:43.05 | Tuxtoriel | Did anybody try out the NEO 2 keyboard layout? I'm trying to, but it seams that I'm stuck on layer 4 -> « http://neo-layout.org/ > Ebene 4». |
| 07:43.15 | Tuxtoriel | Do you have the same happening to you? |
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| 08:59.24 | anug | i thave this problem https://forum.manjaro.org/t/cannot-talk-to-klauncher-when-using-partitionmanager/17268/9 |
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| 09:23.33 | anug | i thave this problem https://forum.manjaro.org/t/cannot-talk-to-klauncher-when-using-partitionmanager/17268/9 |
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| 09:38.35 | kishore96 | anug: Check this out. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=224266 |
| 09:39.20 | anug | kishore96, ok |
| 09:41.03 | anug | able to solve it by using kdesu |
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| 09:58.46 | BrainWork | hi, im using kde 4.4.12 and it's exhibiting some odd behaviour when copying files. i'm copying images and videos to my phone via mtp using dolphin, and the speed and graph arent working right |
| 09:59.20 | BrainWork | it only re-calculates at the end of each file, like it's a blocking operation, so for 99% of the time it says "0 B/s" for speed, and an empty graph, although its copying a lot, quickly. |
| 09:59.23 | BrainWork | is this a known issue? |
| 09:59.56 | BrainWork | it doesnt do this when copying over the network from local, or when copying local files |
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| 11:30.05 | raghukamath | hey guys in the recent plasma changin keyboard to indic language layouts is broken, Can anybody help to diagnose the problem. Which packages affect the keyboard layout. doesn an update in xorg trigger it? I have filed a bug report here -> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381352 and it will help me add information to it |
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| 11:30.25 | raghukamath | strange thing is newer plasma in neon don't have this problem |
| 11:31.25 | raghukamath | i tested arch and tumbleweed both have this problem, but neon works fine |
| 11:49.11 | eagle | is there a way to use sddm with breeze-dark before login? |
| 11:49.15 | Tuxtoriel | raghukamath: I use it daily and for me it works :·) (manjaro) |
| 11:51.37 | raghukamath | Tuxtoriel: i'll test manjaro, may be the update which breaks it isn't there yet in maanjaro. this has become a mystery to me, to find out which package breaks it |
| 11:52.00 | raghukamath | Tuxtoriel: the input doesn't work only for indian keyboard layouts |
| 11:52.04 | raghukamath | rest work correctly |
| 11:52.45 | raghukamath | if you add a indian input layout with any variant, the language switched dissapears from the panel, and even the keyboard shortcut don't work |
| 11:53.01 | raghukamath | meanwhile it works correctly with other languages |
| 11:53.14 | Tuxtoriel | tests with indian layout |
| 11:56.56 | Tuxtoriel | Strange it is, I can add it to my list, but when I select that language, it is not triggered, and the layout (as well as the displayed layout) stays the same (not updated). |
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| 11:59.34 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 12:01.17 | raghukamath | Tuxtoriel: exactly same behavior that i was telling |
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| 12:01.57 | raghukamath | Tuxtoriel: it stays on the current one i.e. us keyboard layout for me, the osd is triggered but it only stays in us |
| 12:02.11 | Tuxtoriel | yep. |
| 12:02.17 | raghukamath | Tuxtoriel: also "setxkbmap in" doesn't work |
| 12:02.17 | Tuxtoriel | Bug reproduced. |
| 12:02.46 | raghukamath | it complains "Error loading keyboard description" |
| 12:02.49 | Tuxtoriel | yep : «Error loading new keyboard description» |
| 12:02.52 | Tuxtoriel | :·) |
| 12:02.53 | raghukamath | yes |
| 12:03.13 | Tuxtoriel | Maybe it's just the layout description file that's missing. |
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| 12:03.47 | raghukamath | the xkb guys had moved the indian layout details in base extra, if you read the bug report I mention it there |
| 12:04.14 | raghukamath | but i manually copied the base and evdev files from older working install, it didn't work. |
| 12:04.46 | raghukamath | do wee need to recompile keyboard symbols when something is changes in the files? |
| 12:06.00 | raghukamath | and the change that i mention was there from february 2017 |
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| 12:21.10 | Tuxtoriel | raghukamath: well, don't know much about how those so I'm a little bit lost in those files. But all I can say is I've got both. And if you've got questions, I'm still here for ~10 minutes. :·) |
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| 12:22.30 | Tuxtoriel | Could you test the «German (Neo 2)» layout please? I just wanted to try out, but I can't do anything but level 4 keys (« http://neo-layout.org/ > Ebene 4») |
| 12:22.56 | Tuxtoriel | Do you have the same bugK |
| 12:23.10 | Tuxtoriel | s/bugK/bug? |
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| 12:29.39 | raghukamath | Tuxtoriel: i am currently on an Opensuse leap machine so can't check |
| 12:29.56 | raghukamath | everything works correctly in this machine |
| 12:30.36 | raghukamath | this problem happens in openSUSE tumbleweed and Arch linux , basically distros which have newest plasma |
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| 12:33.51 | Tuxtoriel | raghukamath: ok. Could you still check it on Leap, to see if the Neo2 layout works there? |
| 12:34.24 | raghukamath | Tuxtoriel: sure |
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| 12:35.10 | Tuxtoriel | thanks :·) |
| 12:35.57 | Tuxtoriel | I'll be back soon, see you! |
| 12:36.52 | raghukamath | Tuxtoriel: it works |
| 12:36.57 | raghukamath | which keys do you want me to test |
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| 12:55.03 | Tuxtoriel | raghukamath: back! :·) but I gotta go. So you mean, you can type letters and everything normally? |
| 12:55.15 | raghukamath | Tuxtoriel: yes |
| 12:55.35 | raghukamath | do you want me to test some keys which dont' work for you |
| 12:56.11 | Tuxtoriel | Well, it's essentially any letter :·) |
| 12:56.19 | Tuxtoriel | I'm stuck on layer 4 |
| 12:56.49 | Tuxtoriel | Have to go right now. But good to know, thanks! :·) I will troubleshoot that later. See you! |
| 12:57.08 | raghukamath | ok |
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| 13:03.31 | rasmi | Hi, I'm missing the KTimeTracker program using kde5. Am I missing something? Or this program is not ported to kde5? |
| 13:05.10 | tosky | rasmi: ktimetracker was not ported to the Frameworks 5 libraries, no (there is no kde5) and I think it won't be ported |
| 13:05.42 | rasmi | tosky: why not? |
| 13:06.01 | rasmi | Is there are any substitute> |
| 13:06.05 | rasmi | ? |
| 13:07.07 | asturm | rasmi: there was no one maintaining it |
| 13:07.49 | asturm | ...and the rest of kde-pim-5 had to move on |
| 13:10.08 | rasmi | Sad to hear. But it better then "it cannot be done anymore, because of new kde-pim-5 architecture". |
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| 13:11.10 | tosky | I think it had issues even before |
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| 13:17.01 | asturm | I don't think it had a lot of ties to kde pim other than being in the same repository |
| 13:17.29 | asturm | so theoretically one might pick it from old repository and port it standalone |
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| 13:27.13 | rasmi | Hm, it needs investigating, I think. I'm do not know anything about internals of kde and kde-pim, but I've noticed that kde-pim now have something caleed "plugins". May be it's worth to try implement such functionallity as a plugin? |
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| 13:32.10 | rasmi | Also, one thing that I've flummoxed by, is the "time tracker" view in korganaizer. It's something legacy now, right? |
| 13:35.12 | tosky | where exactly? |
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| 13:35.48 | rasmi | tosky: korganizer -> view -> timespent |
| 13:35.58 | tosky | it's part of korganizer |
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| 13:36.44 | tosky | based probably on its information |
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| 13:37.49 | tosky | "The Timeline view shows all events for the selected timespan in a gantt view. Every calendar is displayed in a separate line." |
| 13:37.52 | rasmi | Well, it sound like I need to dig into the documentation of korganizer... Right now I'm really not sure, how this view can be used. |
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| 13:38.18 | rasmi | Ah, okay! Many thanks. |
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| 13:39.24 | shtrb|work | speaking of korgnizer , Is there a saner option to get office365 calendar than publishing a public calendar file and adding a link to it ? |
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| 13:48.22 | anug | can i install the proprietary driver? http://i.imgur.com/gchp3q4.png |
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| 13:48.29 | metalhead33 | Hello everyone |
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| 13:48.54 | metalhead33 | Not sure if it is a KDE-specific question or not, but my Gentoo Linux with KDE Plasma is not respecting my file association of .spc files correctly. |
| 13:49.28 | metalhead33 | I keep altering the settings in a desperate attempt to get .spc files recognizes as audio files to be played by Audacious, but to no avail. In the file manager Dolphin, they are still considered plain text files. |
| 13:50.09 | asturm | anug: use the package manager provided by your distribution |
| 13:50.48 | tosky | anug: it depends on your video card |
| 13:50.56 | anug | asturm, im using manjaro kde |
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| 13:51.11 | tosky | metalhead33: how do you change the settings? |
| 13:51.42 | metalhead33 | By going into the KDE settings, going to "Applications", and to "File Associations" |
| 13:52.00 | metalhead33 | then I look for .spc, and I either add it to x-vgm or create a new type for it |
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| 13:52.10 | metalhead33 | Whichever I do, Dolphin keeps misidentifying it as plain text. |
| 13:52.11 | anug | i can install from that window or use octopi? |
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| 13:52.56 | tosky | metalhead33: dolphin (and many other applications) simply uses the shared MIME info database (with customizations like the one that you defined) |
| 13:53.14 | tosky | so maybe the extension is not enough |
| 13:53.24 | metalhead33 | allright, so I gotta edit /etc/mime* then |
| 13:53.34 | metalhead33 | oh wait, I already did, and still no change |
| 13:53.37 | asturm | anug: so that's a question for manjaro channels |
| 13:53.54 | anug | asturm, ok wait |
| 13:54.26 | tosky | metalhead33: no /etc/mime*; shared-mime-info |
| 13:54.35 | metalhead33 | oh right, thanks |
| 13:55.31 | anug | i get this error during boot http://imgur.com/a/hc3NO |
| 13:55.44 | metalhead33 | how do I edit shared-mime-info? |
| 13:55.44 | anug | is it because of video driver? |
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| 14:05.16 | metalhead33 | Using mimeopen recognizes the SPC file as audio. Only Dolphin keeps insisting that it's plain text. |
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| 14:11.09 | tosky | metalhead33: what does kmimetypefinder5 says about that file (command line, pass the file path as parameter) |
| 14:11.40 | anug | how to check updates |
| 14:11.44 | metalhead33 | it says text/plain |
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| 14:12.40 | metalhead33 | Even though I clearly changed the file association settings in the system settings |
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| 14:16.48 | metalhead33 | tosky: http://i.imgur.com/o88HMz4.png http://i.imgur.com/IiPfI6d.png |
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| 14:17.24 | tosky | metalhead33: so the extension is not enough |
| 14:17.46 | metalhead33 | If I rename them to .vgz, they will work fine |
| 14:20.25 | metalhead33 | https://superuser.com/questions/1172793/spc-file-association exact same problem |
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| 14:26.47 | yeehi | Kmail problem: Everything is pale grey or greyed out |
| 14:27.04 | yeehi | I can read the subject lines, just |
| 14:27.38 | anug | how to check for updates |
| 14:27.55 | yeehi | the body of the message is fine, once it has been opened. The mail needs expansion all the time, and if I expand it, and then change the sort by date, it becomes unexpanded again |
| 14:28.42 | yeehi | anug use apper |
| 14:28.52 | yeehi | go to the K in bottom left |
| 14:28.55 | yeehi | then system |
| 14:29.19 | yeehi | then you will see the green arrow "Software Management" |
| 14:29.36 | anug | yeehi, i have octopi |
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| 14:30.00 | yeehi | That is a bit more complicated, as i don't have it in front of me |
| 14:30.07 | yeehi | you need to look at top left |
| 14:30.11 | yeehi | and do a synchronise |
| 14:30.37 | yeehi | Then at the bottom, there are a couple of icons you can click, iirc |
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| 14:31.05 | yeehi | you could try asking in #parabola - they will surely know |
| 14:31.28 | anug | yeehi, ill check there |
| 14:31.31 | yeehi | if nobody is there, the #chakra people are very kind |
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| 15:00.55 | spektorfamily | how do I check my plasma version? |
| 15:01.18 | tosky | spektorfamily: plasmashell -v, or run kinfocenter |
| 15:01.35 | spektorfamily | cool thanks |
| 15:01.54 | spektorfamily | so Im running Linux Mint KDE and would like to update to plasma 5.9 or 5.10 |
| 15:02.02 | spektorfamily | I need to add a repo? |
| 15:02.59 | tosky | I would ask into Linux Mint channels |
| 15:03.30 | spektorfamily | alright, thanks |
| 15:04.05 | anug | mint just released 18.1 kde with plasma 5.8 |
| 15:04.12 | anug | they are very behind |
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| 15:07.00 | spektorfamily | If i want an up to date KDE, should i switch to KDE Neon? |
| 15:07.11 | spektorfamily | Neon has 5.10? |
| 15:08.20 | anug | manjaro kde has 5.10 |
| 15:09.21 | tosky | spektorfamily: try the live... |
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| 15:26.40 | asturm | 5.10.3 works great btw |
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| 15:30.21 | asturm | ok, copying from smb:/ raises dolphin load to 30%, but does not make it a runaway process... |
| 15:31.00 | intrac | hi, can anyone confirm if baloo-xattr-check-{04af3c ... } files are from the baloo indexer? |
| 15:31.12 | intrac | I'm getting a build up of them on an sdcard |
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| 15:39.08 | intrac | assuming it is the indexer, which looks likely. it's this sort of issue which made me walk away from the kde/kdesktop |
| 15:39.56 | intrac | leaving junk data on partitions outside of the user's home config files or /tmp isn't on. |
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| 16:46.17 | alex88 | hi there, is there a channel for kde neon support? |
| 16:49.30 | asturm | alex88: #kde-neon I guess |
| 16:49.36 | alex88 | thanks |
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| 17:13.26 | physkets | Hi! |
| 17:13.49 | physkets | I have a monitor connected to my laptop via HDMI |
| 17:13.58 | physkets | My plasma keeps breaking, |
| 17:14.14 | physkets | in that every no-and -then, when I login, |
| 17:14.24 | physkets | I see only a wallpaper and the mouse |
| 17:14.34 | physkets | all my widgets have dissapeared |
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| 17:14.38 | physkets | and I can do nothing |
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| 17:14.58 | physkets | does any oneknwo how I might be able to fix things |
| 17:15.15 | physkets | THis has been happening for a while now |
| 17:15.40 | tosky | does it work with a new user? |
| 17:15.41 | physkets | I was able to get back my regulat desktop by logging in and logging out |
| 17:15.44 | physkets | but today, |
| 17:15.53 | physkets | I did so about 1 times |
| 17:15.57 | physkets | to no avail |
| 17:16.06 | physkets | Any help? |
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| 17:32.46 | oprypin | physkets, i was getting that previously i think. i only know a workaround |
| 17:33.10 | oprypin | alt+space or alt+f2 whatever it is nowadays; type killall plasmashell; plasmashell |
| 17:35.37 | physkets | oprypin: I see... I'll try that the next time I log onto KDE; thanks |
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| 17:39.37 | physkets | oprypin: Yep!! THat seems to bring it back |
| 17:39.49 | physkets | Any idea what the issue might be? |
| 17:39.58 | physkets | is there a bug report on this? |
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| 19:15.38 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.10 and KDE Applications 17.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
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| 19:27.24 | Anatzum | Is it possible to use the keyboard shortcuts for clementine and have it show up on the lock screen? Amarok and Audacious do this. Since clementine is a fork of an older amarok is there any particular reason it doesn't? I'm on arch so not sure if that has anything to do with it. |
| 19:28.04 | oprypin | wait what? there are things that can show up on the lock screen? |
| 19:28.33 | oprypin | clementine is not kde fwiw |
| 19:28.55 | asturm | oprypin: mpris |
| 19:29.02 | Anatzum | Not sure if was in 5.9 or in 5.10 but media player shows up on lockscreen now. |
| 19:29.07 | asturm | 5.10 |
| 19:29.26 | oprypin | too bad i was sold on an evil online streaming service |
| 19:30.03 | Anatzum | since audacious works with it and its even further from kde then clementine i was just curious if its just me that its not working for or its just like that. |
| 19:30.39 | tosky | "Media controls on lock screen" -> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.10.0.php |
| 19:30.50 | tosky | new in Plasma 5.10, and as hinted it uses MPRIS |
| 19:31.17 | oprypin | Anatzum, asturm is saying "mpris" - that's what makes it tick, if clementine wants to implement that, it'll work |
| 19:32.22 | tosky | it would be strange if clementine did not implement it |
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| 22:01.54 | vvande | I'm using KDE 4.14 and Plasma 4.11 and the clock plasmoid skips seconds. |
| 22:02.30 | vvande | Actually it's jerky - has a slight delay every 5 seconds or so. |
| 22:02.36 | vvande | How to fix? |
| 22:13.47 | oprypin | vvande, something there needs to be replaced |
| 22:13.56 | oprypin | like the OS or the whole computer |
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| 22:14.45 | M_aD | vvande: which distro? |
| 22:14.45 | oprypin | as i understand the implementation of the clock in kde 4 what it does is "update the display, sleep 1 second, repeat" |
| 22:15.53 | M_aD | KDE 4.14 and plasma 4.11 sound so old right now :) |
| 22:15.53 | oprypin | so, since the interval ends up being more than 1 second, it's broken by definition, but the weaker your computer is, the more often it will be delayed |
| 22:16.14 | oprypin | no such problem in plasma 5 btw |
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| 22:25.58 | vvande | oprypin: latest OS, just updated |
| 22:26.08 | vvande | FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE |
| 22:26.46 | vvande | M_aD: nothing more recent available :( |
| 22:27.15 | vvande | plasma 5 is not available yet |
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| 22:28.34 | LazyGnoll | KDE 4.14 is like 4 or 5 years old |
| 22:28.36 | vvande | my computer is not very powerful, I5-2400 3.10GHz w/ 16GB ram |
| 22:29.06 | vvande | LazyGnoll: perhaps for Linux |
| 22:30.15 | M_aD | powerfull enough imo |
| 22:30.22 | LazyGnoll | I'd assume i5 should be more than enough for something as simple as clock to work properly, yeah |
| 22:30.47 | vvande | quad core should run a clock, yes |
| 22:31.08 | vvande | I din't have a clock problem in 1987 |
| 22:31.11 | vvande | lol |
| 22:31.44 | vvande | What's relevant here, is that upon my recent update, this problem went away for a day or two. But it's back. |
| 22:31.45 | LazyGnoll | that could be a video driver/compositing related problem or just a bug of some sort |
| 22:32.04 | vvande | I've had the problem for some years now. |
| 22:32.18 | vvande | it's just that it went away for a short while that I got hope again |
| 22:32.43 | oprypin | I described the core problem, it can't go away, it can just be made worse. what makes the delay worse is a mystery, undeniably |
| 22:32.43 | vvande | LazyGnoll: video driver eh? Interesting |
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| 22:33.22 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.10 and KDE Applications 17.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
| 22:33.33 | vvande | I thought it had to do with Firefox being heavily loaded, because I do that. But turns out to not be the cae. |
| 22:33.40 | vvande | case |
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| 22:34.31 | LazyGnoll | it's just a wild guess, you can try enabling/disabling desktop effects and see if it changes anything |
| 22:34.49 | vvande | as an experiment, it's worth a try - thanks |
| 22:35.10 | vvande | I'll do that in a bit. |
| 22:37.02 | vvande | BTW, there's a (presumably) related problem; when I click the desktop to get my app menu, there's a delay, and hoovering over sections there's a 2 second delay before sub-menus display. |
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| 22:41.32 | vvande | hmm, desktop effects doesn't make any difference. |
| 22:42.00 | vvande | I'm going to take this to the FreeBSD forum since it's probably OS specific. |
| 22:42.07 | vvande | Thanks guys :) |
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