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| 00:15.06 | darvan | Any ideas why I can't I alt-tab on CentOS7 w/KDE4 on second screen, but I can on my first screen, when I have my second screen setup as a separate KDE session? |
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| 01:26.49 | arvut | ok, weirdest thing, on new plasma upgrade (to 5.10.1), I can't move windows by dragging them to the left edge (to next workspace in that direction), but I can drag them up, right and down to workspaces there... is this a BUG? |
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| 04:45.36 | viscera | How do I disable the Present Windows animation? I still want the effect, just not the animation. |
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| 04:52.40 | thiago | Alt+F3, More, Window Manager settings |
| 04:52.44 | thiago | disable that effect |
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| 04:55.56 | viscera | thiago: you mean the Present Windows effect under Desktop Effects? |
| 04:56.27 | viscera | thiago: I don't see how to keep the effect but disable the animation |
| 04:57.47 | viscera | The animation chugs on this Core 2 Duo |
| 04:57.52 | viscera | Or at least looks wonky somehow |
| 04:58.14 | viscera | But I like/need the effect |
| 04:58.28 | viscera | I hope that makes sense... |
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| 05:07.16 | thiago | oh, you want the effect but without the animation? |
| 05:08.34 | viscera | thiago: yes please |
| 05:09.07 | thiago | I don't think there's a way |
| 05:10.12 | viscera | Ok thanks. It's not too bad it just looks strange on this system. |
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| 06:44.17 | nrpil | hello people |
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| 06:48.36 | nrpil | i have a question about accessing remote files |
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| 06:49.39 | dvogel[m] | Hi Using dolphin ? |
| 06:49.57 | nrpil | it seems i cannot play videos from my nas. i navigate to the folder with dolphin and click on a video |
| 06:50.15 | nrpil | dragon opens but does not play the video |
| 06:50.51 | nrpil | should be possible or not ?/ |
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| 06:52.10 | dvogel[m] | Should. I already did that using VLC reading from a samba share.what kind of share does your Nas do ? (Most probably samba). Maybe try with VLC ? |
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| 06:52.59 | nrpil | dvogel[m]: yep its a samba share. also tried it with fish:/// |
| 06:53.05 | nrpil | same result |
| 06:53.27 | nrpil | trying vlc now |
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| 07:07.30 | Defiance_ | nrpil: are you able to copy the file from the samba share to a local folder and then play it? |
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| 07:20.02 | nrpil | Defiance_: yes i am but i want to stream it if possible |
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| 07:22.34 | dvogel[m] | nrpil (IRC) Defiance_ (IRC) the question is: is dragon player able to do that ? Maybe is it trying to copy the file to a local temp for and then play from there. Any success with VLC ? |
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| 07:24.32 | nrpil | dvogel[m]: i think the kio framework should kind of mount the location to then let any application access the file |
| 07:24.43 | nrpil | i could be wrong ! |
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| 07:28.52 | dvogel[m] | nrpil (IRC) hmmm I just opened a PDF in okular from a samba share, had a quick copy job in the notification applet, copying to /tmp/okular-<number>.pdf |
| 07:28.52 | dvogel[m] | On the other end gwenview opens jpg files as is on the share |
| 07:31.42 | dvogel[m] | ok for others pdfs okular opens directly... sounds like there is a file size threshold |
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| 07:42.00 | nrpil | dvogel[m]: could be the same thing with videos. do you know where i can find more information about how kio works? i am an ex gnome user so i am used to gvfs |
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| 07:59.38 | dvogel[m] | nrpil (IRC) not sure if there is a end-user doc for Kio. You can look at the code at phabricator.kde.org/source/kio |
| 08:00.10 | dvogel[m] | you can also look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samba section automatic mounting |
| 08:00.36 | dvogel[m] | or last solution ping some of the people who committed to kio |
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| 08:04.49 | nrpil | dvogel[m]: will do, thanks ! |
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| 10:54.51 | new-nick | Hi there, |
| 10:55.51 | new-nick | I am trying to use KDE Connect. Have connect mobile device on Debian Hotspot but neither Android client nor KDE connect indicator detecting each other |
| 10:57.06 | new-nick | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:13.03 | d42 | debian hotspot? :v |
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| 11:20.13 | new-nick | d42: instead using router or dedicated network device, I use laptop wifi hotspot to connect Android to Internet |
| 11:20.49 | d42 | i see |
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| 11:26.45 | new-nick | Will it not work on this way? |
| 11:27.50 | hateball | new-nick: the devices need to be on the same subnet for kde connect to work |
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| 11:27.57 | dvogel[m] | new-nick: I'm using this setup right now |
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| 11:28.36 | new-nick | dvogel[m]: this setup as kconnect or hotspot method> |
| 11:29.11 | new-nick | hateball: I think too but on Debian IRC, somebody direct me to use this way. |
| 11:29.26 | dvogel[m] | new-nick: my internet (ethernet) <-> laptop <-wifi-> android |
| 11:29.36 | dvogel[m] | on arch plasma 5.10 |
| 11:29.51 | new-nick | hateball: same subnet means via router rather than current setup I am trying ? |
| 11:30.38 | new-nick | dvogel[m]: superb. I am using Debian Gnome. Do u use KDE connect this method? does it works? |
| 11:31.45 | new-nick | my current setup: Internet (USB tethering) -- laptop -- WIFI hotspot -- Android devices(2) |
| 11:32.24 | hateball | new-nick: I mean that if your computer is on say 192.168.x.x, then the android device needs to be as well, and not use some routing nat |
| 11:32.31 | hateball | at least I think that is required |
| 11:32.38 | dvogel[m] | new-nick: I personnaly just created the wifi hotspot using NetworkManager, connected the phone to, and paired |
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| 11:41.58 | new-nick | hateball: No, computer is not connect to any network (192.168.x.x) Just mobile device and laptop. Any idea to make it works? |
| 11:42.44 | new-nick | dvogel[m]: I understand that. I am making clear, do you use KDE connect with current setup? |
| 11:42.58 | dvogel[m] | Yes |
| 11:43.05 | new-nick | Or you simply use computer hotspot to share one Internet connection ? |
| 11:43.17 | dvogel[m] | yes |
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| 11:44.00 | dvogel[m] | laptop connected to ethernet, creates wifi, phone connects to wifi |
| 11:44.02 | kishore96 | new-nick: That works for me (connecting to the laptop's shared wifi connection with my phone). |
| 11:44.59 | new-nick | So here, I am repeating to make me understand clearly. You connect mobile device to computer hotspot and KDE connect running on computer detects Android client app ? |
| 11:45.04 | new-nick | interesting |
| 11:45.18 | kishore96 | Yes. |
| 11:45.24 | new-nick | Hi kishore96, thank u for the input |
| 11:45.25 | dvogel[m] | yes |
| 11:46.07 | kishore96 | I've heard of people having problems if the versions of the android app and the version installed on the computer are mismatched. |
| 11:46.32 | new-nick | At least, I got hope now that I can make this method to work. But I am not sure why is not detecting. Both mobile client app KDE connect and KDE connect indicator |
| 11:47.04 | new-nick | I just installed both today. |
| 11:48.45 | kishore96 | new-nick: Have you allowed the required ports of your computer's firewall? |
| 11:48.59 | new-nick | Nope |
| 11:48.59 | kishore96 | *on |
| 11:49.35 | dvogel[m] | new-nick: maybe try to ping your android phone ? works for me |
| 11:49.41 | kishore96 | new-nick: You need to allow ports 1714:1764. |
| 11:50.03 | kishore96 | For tcp and udp. |
| 11:51.04 | kishore96 | new-nick: https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect#I_have_two_devices_running_KDE_Connnect_on_the_same_network.2C_but_they_can.27t_see_each_other This has instructions. |
| 11:51.21 | kishore96 | Assuming you are using ufw. |
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| 11:52.25 | new-nick | gufw |
| 11:52.36 | new-nick | yes, ufw |
| 11:52.54 | new-nick | I am checking the Web link right away |
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| 11:56.59 | new-nick | I have set Rules and reloaded |
| 11:57.07 | new-nick | still same |
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| 12:00.44 | kishore96 | new-nick: Try restarting kdeconnect on your computer? |
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| 12:10.19 | new-nick | dvogel[m]: I tried to ping |
| 12:10.26 | new-nick | --- 10.41.0.12 ping statistics --- |
| 12:10.26 | new-nick | 196 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 196559ms |
| 12:12.25 | dvogel[m] | new-nick: does that suggest there is an issue in the connection ? not sure how ufw affects pinging. Can you access the internet from your phone ? |
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| 12:12.56 | new-nick | yes. Internet access is there for mobile device |
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| 12:14.08 | dvogel[m] | did you create the connection using networkmanager ? (which -i think- is used by the gnome network applet) |
| 12:14.16 | new-nick | I connected 2nd Android mobile and result is From 10.42.0.1 icmp_seq=17 Destination Host Unreachable |
| 12:14.34 | new-nick | Gnome Network manager. yes |
| 12:15.01 | kishore96 | Can you disable the firewall and try? |
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| 12:19.05 | new-nick | I disable the firewall and still failed |
| 12:19.31 | new-nick | cant ping android ip or kde connect is not detectd |
| 12:19.38 | new-nick | :( |
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| 12:26.35 | dvogel[m] | new-nick: super strange. is your wifi in access point mode ? (should since you have internet connection on the phone ...) |
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| 12:28.53 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
| 12:29.00 | Captain_Haddock | Hi |
| 12:30.42 | Captain_Haddock | Kubuntu user: After a recent upgrade, my plasma desktop appears to have been corrupted. While I could recreate my start bar, the K-menu shortcut is now wonky. I used to have Meta + A as my shortcut, but I'm unable to set it to that now. |
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| 14:48.37 | apoli | anyone know how to fix decryption errors in kwallet? |
| 14:49.50 | oprypin | apoli, if someone knew how to generically fix any error, those wouldn't be there in the first place |
| 14:50.01 | oprypin | i.e. you have to be more specific when asking for help |
| 14:50.10 | apoli | sorry about that |
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| 14:51.19 | apoli | when trying to create a wallet and using GPG encryption, an error screen displaying "Error when attempting to decrypt the wallet <wallet name> using GPG." appears |
| 14:52.34 | oprypin | do you have the option of nuking any wallet-related data you may currently have? |
| 14:52.41 | apoli | the keys are there, and they are recognized/selectable when creating the wallet, but after that it fails |
| 14:52.46 | apoli | yeah |
| 14:54.23 | oprypin | well, the files are ~/.config/kwallet* ~/.local/share/kwalletd/* |
| 14:54.45 | oprypin | i'd expect that to help, if not, then your system is somehow broken :| |
| 14:54.54 | oprypin | sorry, i only have the crude solution |
| 14:55.01 | oprypin | keep in mind that you will lose stored passwords |
| 14:55.25 | apoli | no worries, I've already nuked the wallets and os a few times trying to fix this |
| 14:55.31 | apoli | might as well try again |
| 14:56.14 | tomaz | apoli: amazing work on discover today <3 |
| 14:56.56 | oprypin | apoli, damn.. it's probably something about the GPG part, it's not widely used. could be something like a missing component or incompatibility with GPG settings |
| 14:57.35 | apoli | yeah I've messed around with that too. Tried with just gpg2 as well as kleopatra |
| 14:57.39 | apoli | nothing |
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| 15:03.24 | apoli | ironically, the GPG method worked on a friend's system with essentially the same base as mine |
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| 15:38.39 | kishore96_ | I've used the GPG wallet in the past, and it worked for me. :shrug: |
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| 15:47.33 | apoli | rip |
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| 15:55.42 | jfmcarreira | heyyy guys |
| 15:55.54 | jfmcarreira | what do i have to do to add FN functions to KDE |
| 15:56.00 | jfmcarreira | which module controls it? |
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| 15:59.23 | kishore96_ | jfmcarreira: AFAIK, that should be detected automatically. |
| 16:00.42 | kishore96_ | You might want to play around with the options in settings > imput devices > keyboard > keyboard model |
| 16:01.24 | jfmcarreira | wireless toggle works |
| 16:01.27 | jfmcarreira | but touchpad dont |
| 16:01.49 | jfmcarreira | actually i am using now KToshiba to detect them and it is not working also :S |
| 16:01.56 | jfmcarreira | but it used to work in the past |
| 16:07.11 | kishore96_ | jfmcarreira: Try selecting the 'Toshiba satellite blah blah' option in the keyboard model. |
| 16:08.02 | jfmcarreira | kishore96_: LOL it is the first time i am being aware of that |
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| 16:10.46 | jfmcarreira | changng that does not changes anything |
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| 16:46.58 | apoli | quick update, nuking everything didn't work (regarding the kwallet decryption error). Thanks for the help though |
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| 17:48.01 | Kayden | Hello. I'm trying to configure KMail 5.5.2 on Archlinux to use an external text editor when composing messages. I've done this for ages but had to switch machines, and I can't for the life of me find the option... |
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| 18:45.23 | luke-jr | my Alt-Tab randomly stopped working overnight.. any ideas for troubleshooting? I already tried restarting KWin; Alt-F2 works fine |
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| 18:45.41 | luke-jr | Alt-Tab seems to go to xev and Konsole (if they have focus) |
| 18:46.01 | luke-jr | system settings still show Alt-Tab as the set shortcut; clearing, apply, re-setting, applying doesn't help |
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| 18:50.12 | luke-jr | what program handles this? |
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| 18:51.40 | kishore96_ | AFAIK, it is kwin. |
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| 18:53.14 | thiago | luke-jr: it is kwin |
| 18:53.23 | thiago | just note that the executable is called "kwin_x11" |
| 18:53.30 | luke-jr | hmm, anything more I can do when restarting it didn't help? |
| 18:53.47 | luke-jr | does KWin rely on some shortcut managing daemon to handle it somehow? |
| 18:53.53 | thiago | no |
| 18:53.59 | thiago | well, kglobalacceld |
| 18:54.04 | thiago | do you see title bars to your windows? |
| 18:54.44 | luke-jr | yes |
| 18:54.53 | luke-jr | another weird thing: clipboard doesn't work |
| 18:55.18 | luke-jr | restarting kglobalaccel5, no improvement |
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| 18:56.13 | luke-jr | restarted kwin again and now Alt-Tab works yay |
| 18:56.29 | luke-jr | no clipboard still, but that's probably something else |
| 18:56.42 | asturm | luke-jr: someone else reported they had to press tab up to 20 times until it worked |
| 18:57.09 | luke-jr | stopping Xpra fixed clipboard, so not KDE related I guess |
| 18:57.30 | asturm | however that issue appeared to have been a one-off or had went away with 5.9.5, |
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| 18:58.04 | mike-zal | luke-jr: find configs in ~/.config that respond for shortcuts and delete them |
| 18:58.34 | mike-zal | I had issue with kwin once. kwin was crashing constantly over and over. I deleted config and it all went back to normal. |
| 18:58.52 | luke-jr | hmm, spoke too soon, clipboard still isn't working reliably |
| 18:59.08 | mike-zal | before I was messing with Xorg and it seemed to corrupt kwin configs somehow. |
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| 18:59.23 | mike-zal | so it's possible, the same happened to you |
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| 18:59.48 | mike-zal | luke-jr: to test my theory, create a test user and see if the issue exists for him |
| 18:59.56 | mike-zal | if not, configs are at fault |
| 19:00.15 | mike-zal | if issue persists, then the issue is more serious |
| 19:00.16 | luke-jr | mike-zal: restarting kglobalaccel5 & then kwin_x11 worked for Alt-Tab.. |
| 19:00.54 | luke-jr | Is Klipper no longer a program of its own? how can I try restarting that? |
| 19:01.18 | mike-zal | if I recall correctly, klipper was made part of the DE... |
| 19:01.25 | mike-zal | stupid decision IMO |
| 19:01.42 | asturm | klipper exists both as a widget and as application |
| 19:01.49 | luke-jr | DE referring to what program? :x |
| 19:02.43 | luke-jr | Clipboard problem persists with plasmashell not running :x |
| 19:03.15 | thiago | it's a plasma applet |
| 19:03.43 | thiago | the plasma applet suffices, no need for klipper |
| 19:03.56 | thiago | that's not true for te plasma volume applet. You need kmix. |
| 19:04.05 | luke-jr | so it should have gone away with plasmashell closed |
| 19:04.12 | luke-jr | ponders what else could be screwing with clipboards |
| 19:04.48 | luke-jr | hm, copying works fine from non-KDE apps |
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| 19:05.02 | luke-jr | and pasting works in both non-KDE and KDE |
| 19:05.27 | asturm | luke-jr: what qtgui version do you have installed? |
| 19:05.47 | luke-jr | 5.6.2 |
| 19:06.14 | asturm | luke-jr: this is affected by a qclipboard bug that is fixed in 5.6.3 and >=5.8.0 |
| 19:06.58 | asturm | luke-jr: if you are currently running gentoo pick the qtgui patch from 5.7.1-r1 for epatch_user and see if it applies |
| 19:07.04 | luke-jr | hmm, it worked until today; is there a workaround in the meantime? |
| 19:07.13 | luke-jr | I don't really want to restart all my KDE apps :/ |
| 19:07.27 | asturm | luke-jr: it's a bug that comes and goes |
| 19:07.36 | asturm | I mean, maybe it's still something else |
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| 19:08.44 | asturm | luke-jr: read portage git changelog for more information |
| 19:10.08 | luke-jr | asturm: thanks |
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| 19:20.56 | luke-jr | asturm: it doesn't appear to be the same bug |
| 19:21.05 | asturm | hmm dolphin recently tends to become a 100% load process after copying files into a directory... |
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| 19:22.34 | luke-jr | otoh.. I just realised I copy/pasted the URI from Konsole to Chromium to confirm that.. so it's randomly working again -.- |
| 19:22.53 | luke-jr | hm, only in the new Konsole I opened |
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| 19:38.11 | valentin | Hi, I just installed plasma and when I want to change the background all the preview image are black. Anyone knows what to do? |
| 19:38.37 | valentin | (I can change the background. Just the preview that doesn't work) |
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| 20:41.43 | Nekojimi | Hey, I've got this weird intermittent issue where window layout appears to be backwards or something, does anyone know what might be up? o.o |
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| 20:42.34 | Nekojimi | To clarify: focusing a window moves it to the back |
| 20:43.04 | Nekojimi | Trying to use application menus is impossible because they appear behind their parent window |
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| 20:44.34 | Nekojimi | This seems to start happening randomly |
| 20:44.56 | Nekojimi | Disabling and re-enabling the compositor seems to fix it but it's weird |
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| 21:13.13 | systemovich | I tried KDE Neon, but it could not reboot, because it could not find the hard-drive or bootloader or something. That was some months ago. |
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| 21:42.38 | scottchiefbaker | Is there a keyboard shortcut to move the current window to 50% left or 50% right |
| 21:42.51 | scottchiefbaker | in Windows it's WinKey + <--- |
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| 21:47.20 | JLP | scottchiefbaker: you can set the global keyboard shortcut for KWin |
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| 22:49.32 | scottchiefbaker | JLP, Thanks that worked! |
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