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| 02:24.41 | fuze | is there a way to change the volume OSD's vertical position? |
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| 03:42.26 | viscera | So I've got my panel on the left, and the application launcher at the top of that panel. I can't seem to slam my pointer to the top left corner and click... I have to move a few pixels (down/right) and it's annoying. Can I make it so 0,0 clicks the application launcher? I tried making the hot corner launch the application launcher but that's awkward, too... |
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| 03:48.09 | viscera | Funnily enough, when I have the app launcher at the bottom of the panel, the bottom left corner works fine |
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| 05:12.34 | Zren | Have you resized the panel in any way? |
| 05:12.52 | Zren | that seems odd |
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| 05:44.55 | lordievader[m] | Good morning |
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| 05:57.17 | viscera | Is there a way to get the Audio Volume systray thingy to go away once I mouseout? It makes me have to click the Audio Volume systray icon again, or on an app, etc. |
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| 06:00.15 | kishore96_ | viscera: You can enable 'hover to focus', but I guess you probably wouldn't want that. |
| 06:01.24 | viscera | kishore96_: I think it's only annoying because in GNOME there's a massive area (about 20% of the top bar) you can click that makes it go away, so it's quicker to do (bigger target area). Even if I could click the panel to make it go away it'd be fine... |
| 06:01.34 | viscera | kishore96_: and no, I like my current click-to-focus |
| 06:01.51 | viscera | Not a showstopper of course, just an annoyance |
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| 06:05.11 | kishore96_ | viscera: IIRC, you can press the 'escape' key to make it go away, if that's fine. |
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| 06:08.48 | viscera | kishore96_: that helps a little, thanks |
| 06:23.05 | viscera | kishore96_: any idea about my corner problem earlier? |
| 06:23.24 | kishore96_ | viscera: What problem? |
| 06:24.28 | viscera | kishore96_: [repost] I've got my panel on the left, and the application launcher at the top of that panel. I can't seem to slam my pointer to the top left corner and click... I have to move a few pixels (down/right) and it's annoying. Can I make it so 0,0 clicks the application launcher? I tried making the hot corner launch the application launcher but that's awkward, too. Funnily enough, when I have the app |
| 06:24.31 | viscera | launcher at the bottom of the panel, the bottom left corner works fine. |
| 06:25.49 | kishore96_ | viscera: No idea about that. |
| 06:25.55 | viscera | :( |
| 06:29.09 | kishore96_ | viscera: Your panel on the left is top-aligned, right? |
| 06:29.29 | viscera | kishore96_: yes |
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| 08:29.43 | fuze | viscera: do you have a screen corner shortcut enabled? type screen edges into the app launcher to view this settings panel |
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| 08:49.29 | flo_ | hello ...is it posible in any way to assign a keyboard shortcut to a click action on a window decoration in kde? i would like to assign the full screen shortcut to double click on the title bar |
| 08:50.58 | kishore96_ | flo_: Settings > window management > window behaviour > titlebar actions |
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| 08:52.53 | flo_ | kishore96_ :yes , now there are settings in the control panel where if you double click the active window title bar you can chose to maximize vertically , maximize, etc etc.....i would like to asign that double click to "go full screen" but that is not an option in those settings. by full screen i mean no window decoration and no visible panels. |
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| 08:53.46 | kishore96_ | Not sure if it's possible to bind custom shortcuts to titlebar actions. |
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| 09:00.36 | flo_ | i guess it could be a nice feture request to add that option to the already existing ones. given the popularity of small screen laptops lately that would be a prety usefull option. i'm on a 14 inch laptop and vertical space is so precious |
| 09:02.04 | kishore96 | Yeah. You can file a request on bugs.kde.org. |
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| 09:17.52 | Jucato | flo_: i'm not on Linux right now, but i think there's an option where maximized windows don't get borders. just not sure if it's a global thing or can be set per window (press ALt+F3 or right-click on the window title bar) |
| 09:19.11 | kishore96 | It's set globally. |
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| 09:21.17 | kishore96 | [Windows] |
| 09:21.19 | kishore96 | BorderlessMaximizedWindows=true |
| 09:21.24 | kishore96 | In .config/kwinrc |
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| 09:23.05 | Jucato | sure, but some of those settings can be per window rule. but i can't really double check |
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| 09:23.32 | flo_ | Jucato: thx |
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| 09:56.51 | visceral | I feel like Plasma is blurring my wallpapers when it scale+crops them |
| 09:57.09 | visceral | I look at it in Gwenview (zoom to fit) and it's nice |
| 09:57.30 | visceral | Maybe it's just my imagination... |
| 09:58.01 | visceral | e.g. the original image is far greater size than my desktop (maybe 2x approx) |
| 09:58.11 | visceral | So it's not the source quality that's a problem |
| 09:58.54 | visceral | Anyone else noticing this? |
| 09:59.35 | einar77_work | visceral: yes, it happens when your wallpaper is not the same aspect ratio as the screen |
| 10:00.17 | einar77_work | I think it's not a Plasma bug, but lower in the stack (Qt): I started seeing that when I upgraded to Qt 5.4 IIRC |
| 10:00.28 | Sir_Designer | visceral try cutting it down to size |
| 10:01.15 | einar77_work | more than size, change the aspect ratio |
| 10:01.25 | einar77_work | if you have 16:10, fit it to 16:10 (cropping etc) |
| 10:01.31 | einar77_work | and so on |
| 10:01.40 | visceral | I thought it was just scaled that did that, but scaled+cropped kept aspect ratio |
| 10:03.16 | visceral | By the way, Gwenview crop tool is awesome :) |
| 10:09.05 | visceral | I just did it manually... |
| 10:09.40 | visceral | But I thought "scale+crop" would be like "zoom" on other desktops |
| 10:10.10 | visceral | i.e. keep aspect ratio, make the narrower dimension fit, then cut off the edges |
| 10:11.34 | visceral | I think maybe it's zooming in more than it needs to |
| 10:11.39 | visceral | Hard to explain without screenshots eh |
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| 10:30.19 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
| 10:30.30 | visceral | Hi |
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| 10:49.32 | visceral | So can I get an aspect ratio preserving wallpaper zoom on Plasma or do I just do it manually? I seem to remember KDE having this once upon a time... |
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| 10:58.37 | visceral | Did more testing... it seems like it does keep the aspect ratio, it's just that the image quality turns out a bit crap |
| 10:58.43 | visceral | :\ |
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| 12:29.44 | wget | Hello everyone. I have just upgraded from plasmashell 5.10.0 to 5.10.1. I had to remove the plasmashellrc file because there is something in that file that makes plasmashell crash on startup. ANyone interested in these files? I don't have the time to handle that administrative bargain to fill a bug for that. |
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| 12:48.56 | zaratustra | is it possible to have ctrl+shift+[ and ctrl+shift+] as the default switch tabs shortcuts? |
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| 12:50.28 | tosky | wget: Plasma devs said that it could be useful, yes |
| 12:50.50 | tosky | wget: do you also have the backtrace from the crash? |
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| 12:51.15 | wget | tosky: unfortunately no :-/ But I soon I move the old plasmashell file I got a backtrace |
| 12:51.54 | oprypin | zaratustra, Standard Shortcuts |
| 12:52.10 | tosky | wget: and the file itself, can you please share it? |
| 12:52.27 | zaratustra | oprypin: those wont work anywhere =/ |
| 12:53.16 | zaratustra | on yakuake for example |
| 12:53.18 | zaratustra | chrome |
| 12:53.20 | zaratustra | and so on.. |
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| 12:54.50 | wget | tosky: here you are wget.be/plasma-5.10.0-buggy-config.tar.gz :) |
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| 12:56.05 | d_ed | wget: server doesn't exist |
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| 12:56.43 | wget | d_ed: yep I posted the link before changing the perms here. https://dl.wget.be/plasma-5.10.0-buggy-config.tar.gz |
| 12:56.47 | wget | should be ok |
| 12:57.02 | tosky | thanks |
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| 12:58.19 | oprypin | zaratustra, well damn, just ask chromium devs to support kde settings |
| 12:59.04 | zaratustra | so i need to set it under each app |
| 12:59.26 | zaratustra | it wont even work on konsole, tho |
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| 13:06.09 | zaratustra | 42 |
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| 13:07.59 | tealeagle | Hello :) |
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| 13:16.02 | tealeagle | Hello to everyone, I would like to be able to contribute to the development of KDE, let's say I learned to "use" the qt framework, and also know the full c ++ |
| 13:16.16 | tealeagle | c++ ** |
| 13:16.48 | tealeagle | Can anyone tell me how could i start to be able to contribute to this project? |
| 13:16.53 | tealeagle | Thanks :) |
| 13:18.23 | kishore96_ | tealeagle: https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved#Ways_to_contribute |
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| 17:25.22 | renn0xtk9 | I am using kmail. Any message treated via a Filter can not be open |
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| 17:26.26 | renn0xtk9 | (it takes a while saying : Please wait while the message is transferred) and it takes ages |
| 17:26.54 | renn0xtk9 | anyone an idea? |
| 17:27.22 | cb400f | your kmail version and account type would probably be needed info ... fwiw it works for me with kmail of 16.08 and pop3 account ;-) |
| 17:28.26 | renn0xtk9 | kmail 5.5.1 . I have two accoutns: an imap (from google) and a pop3 (not google) both create problem |
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| 17:29.33 | RogueOmega7 | whats up |
| 17:29.37 | RogueOmega7 | any devs |
| 17:29.39 | RogueOmega7 | ? |
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| 17:30.38 | RogueOmega7 | how many devs are assigned with some of the programs like the project management software for kde |
| 17:30.40 | RogueOmega7 | ? |
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| 17:32.05 | cb400f | free software devs are not assigned, they work on whatever they please |
| 17:32.13 | renn0xtk9 | RogueOmega7: which project managmeent software ? |
| 17:32.42 | cb400f | not sure what project management software exactly, but if it's part of the calligra suite, it's probably not getting much attention |
| 17:33.25 | renn0xtk9 | lol calligra .... |
| 17:34.17 | cb400f | it has some nice applications |
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| 17:34.46 | cb400f | and is the code base for the documents viewer on SailfishOS! |
| 17:35.14 | renn0xtk9 | cb400f sorry to come back to this kmail stuff. but I know that in the days (I mean in 2012/2013) there was huge problem with aknoadi loosing emails of thousands of people. Haven't been affected in that time but read a lot about it, Do you happen to know about the status of this. Could it be that i am affected by that ? |
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| 17:35.54 | renn0xtk9 | well possibly. have never seeen any of the calligra reaching further than what i consider to be pre-pre-pre-pre-pre alpha ^^ |
| 17:36.19 | cb400f | I wouldn't think so... what is the history of this problem? did you just do a fresh installation? did it work before and stopped working after an upgrade or sumfink? |
| 17:36.51 | cb400f | e.g. Calligra Stage is better at viewing ppt/pptx than libreoffice usually |
| 17:37.19 | cb400f | and of course Krita is one of the KDE gems... but that's no longer part of calligra I believe |
| 17:39.28 | renn0xtk9 | cb400f: yes fresh installation, KDE Neon as distributtion. Before I was using KDE4 (kubunut ) with two same accounts and was working very good. I did a first installation of the current machine were I imported all the mails from the KDE4 installation. It was totally fucked up. So i completely reinstall the machine. Now I have an akonadi ressource for fromer mails directories set as read only and one for the current mails |
| 17:39.59 | renn0xtk9 | It seemed to work one day or two and then ... |
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| 17:40.23 | renn0xtk9 | interestingly it is after setting rule for mail comming from kde-devel mailing list that problems started to occur ^^ |
| 17:41.43 | cb400f | it's pretty unpleasant to troubleshoot the akonadi stuff :-/ ... but try to restart akonadi with 'akonadictl restart' and check in 'akonadiconsole' if all the agents and resources seem to be running correctly |
| 17:42.33 | cb400f | you might also be able to find some logs and debugging info and stuff in akonadiconsole which might be helpful |
| 17:43.06 | cb400f | I guess you can check in the google webinterface if your e-mails are still on the server |
| 17:43.36 | cb400f | most likely it's just an issue with the akonadi cache and your mails are still safe on the server |
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| 17:47.35 | cb400f | the kmail in kde applications 16.08 is 5.3 apparantly |
| 17:47.43 | cb400f | is living in the past |
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| 17:57.05 | RogueOmega7 | calligraPlan |
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| 18:04.29 | renn0xtk9 | yes they are still on the sever. i did not check the stuff to autmatically remove them on download. Yeah that is why I have always considere de akonadi stuff among other to be a massive design flaw... If it is fucked up there is no way you can debug it or fix it |
| 18:04.58 | renn0xtk9 | RogueOmega7: imho calligra plan has been unsupported since at least 2014... |
| 18:05.30 | renn0xtk9 | can only encourage you to go for it if you want to develop it coz I would like to have kind of things like that working |
| 18:05.58 | renn0xtk9 | however if you wan't to use it just don't . as of know it is unusable |
| 18:07.20 | renn0xtk9 | I remember submitting several bugreports into it .. they were hindering the correct working. Like strong miscalculation of the project schedule etc. .. |
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| 18:11.23 | demm | renn0xtk9: plan is the most active developed part of Calligra https://github.com/KDE/calligra/commits/master |
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| 18:13.29 | ped | I tried to report crash with that reporting tool, got as far as sending the report, but it got rejected as the log can be 64ki max long, and the crash report was ~346ki big (big backtrace) ... any suggestions what to do next? |
| 18:16.18 | renn0xtk9 | demm nice, will have to test it again ^^ |
| 18:18.06 | renn0xtk9 | ped from my humble experience unless you bugreport is extemly accurate, it will not be regarded anyway: what to do next? consider if you REALLY want to spend the time reporting the bug manually, if it is really accurate |
| 18:18.40 | renn0xtk9 | and if you will remember how the crash happend two years from now, otherwise the dev will close it as "lack of info" |
| 18:20.57 | ped | renn0xtk9: not sure what you mean by accurate, nobody will probably want to download 1GiB rar file, so I don't expect miracles... at the moment it does crash on that file every time, so no problem to reproduce, and I will have it in two years available too.. hmm.. ok, let's give some headache to devs, I will enter it manually |
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| 18:23.32 | renn0xtk9 | "let's give some headache to dev" < I used to be youg too ;) |
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| 18:26.57 | renn0xtk9 | cb400f so with akonadi console every ressource seems to be okay |
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| 18:27.49 | renn0xtk9 | afterwards, since I am not a developer of akonadi I have no ideea what else I could do, and since there is no documentation on how to fix akonadi .. |
| 18:28.53 | ped | renn0xtk9: I'm not that young, but after ~25y of programming the recent decade feels a bit decadent... much more crashing, much more focus on flashing ang bling. I still miss KDE3.5 toward end of cycle, that was excellent desktop. Anyway, reported. Thanks for listening to my rambling, have a nice day. |
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| 19:54.52 | addtru | Hello everyone! I am using KDE on a linux mint 18.1 system, up to date. On my login screen, I have three users, that are using the same computer. The problem is that only one of them has a personalized photo visible. The other users, can only see their customized profile photos after logging in. On the login screen, those two users have the standard avatars. Anyone can please give me some ideas about how can I see all three profile pictures of users on |
| 19:54.52 | addtru | login screen. Thank you! |
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