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| 00:10.31 | jimj316 | Hey, I'm getting a weird and very annoying problem with my desktop, and I'm not sure what the cause is |
| 00:11.24 | jimj316 | Basically, my screen keeps freezing up every so often, except the mouse is not affected, and it only seems to affect some programs (but plasmashell is included) |
| 00:12.06 | jimj316 | Switching to a different terminal and back, or doing something that causes the displays to re-initalise fixes the problem, but only temporarily |
| 00:12.32 | jimj316 | I'm on Debian Testing and KDE Plasma 5, if it helps, and this has been an issue for about a month |
| 00:12.51 | tomcres | I had that happen to me the other day (also on Debian stretch) and it was kwin_x11 that was the problem. I ended up having to kill it and respawn it. |
| 00:13.13 | jimj316 | I'm not too familiar with KDE/X/Linux system architecture so I'm not sure where the problem is, but it's above the application level |
| 00:13.36 | jimj316 | tomcres, this happens all the time, even after rebooting |
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| 00:13.54 | jimj316 | So I doubt restarting KWin would fix it, but I'll try |
| 00:16.16 | jimj316 | What exactly is happening when I switch terminals and back? It seems to kick some sense into whatever is broken at least |
| 00:16.22 | jimj316 | Would that really restart kwin? |
| 00:17.02 | tomcres | No |
| 00:18.06 | jimj316 | Also replugging a monitor fixes it, and presumably changing resolution would but I can't do that when my screen is frozen |
| 00:18.28 | jimj316 | Also it doesn't seem to affect some programs, I think they might be the ones running under GTK? But I'm not sure |
| 00:18.43 | jimj316 | I don't think I've ever seen it happen to Firefox or HexChat |
| 00:18.59 | tomcres | so it only affects KDE apps? |
| 00:19.22 | jimj316 | Not exactly, for example games are affected too |
| 00:19.39 | jimj316 | Like Stardew Valley, which I was just running, is affected |
| 00:20.00 | tomcres | what video driver are you using? |
| 00:20.20 | jimj316 | Mesa, not sure what version |
| 00:20.32 | jimj316 | I was using fglrx until it vanished from testing |
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| 00:23.42 | tomcres | it sounds like more of an X or GLX issue than a KDE oneâ¦have you asked anyone in #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) for help? |
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| 00:27.13 | jimj316 | I haven't yet, because I didn't really know where the problem is |
| 00:27.27 | jimj316 | Sorry to ask, but what's GLX? |
| 00:27.52 | jimj316 | I'll try there though, thanks |
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| 00:30.39 | tomcres | GLX is GL for X⦠it's basically Mesa |
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| 03:51.02 | wolftune | Using Neon⦠I try Dolphin context menu to encrypt a file, and the icon shows up in the task manager for a moment but disappears and nothing happens. Help! |
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| 04:07.08 | qwidj | looking for advice using kwallet with gpg..i get decryption failed whenever i create a key and use it with a new kwallet |
| 04:07.24 | qwidj | is anyone familiar with this being a common mistake ? |
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| 04:11.52 | valorie | qwidj: I've heard of other people having problems |
| 04:12.09 | valorie | I suggest you search bugs.kde.org for more information |
| 04:13.40 | qwidj | indeed, i have seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1285655 for example, i was not sure if ti was resolved |
| 04:13.46 | qwidj | is it considered a standard feature? |
| 04:14.19 | valorie | LP bugs are just for packaging errors |
| 04:14.32 | valorie | this is a different problem not related to the packaging |
| 04:14.38 | valorie | so bko is the place to look |
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| 04:15.31 | qwidj | oh, yes but it does refer to posibly the same issue |
| 04:15.40 | qwidj | however this seems to be more exact https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1285655 |
| 04:15.51 | qwidj | maybe it is hte key length then.. |
| 04:16.23 | valorie | sure, but bko is where KDE bugs go |
| 04:16.39 | valorie | launchpad is where Ubuntu/Kubuntu bugs go |
| 04:16.54 | valorie | so unless it is a packaging issue, look in bko |
| 04:17.43 | qwidj | indeed |
| 04:17.49 | qwidj | i did not look in launchpad just saw it on google |
| 04:17.53 | thiago | qwidj: does it even ask you for the password? |
| 04:18.01 | qwidj | thiago: not in my case |
| 04:18.12 | thiago | ok, so your set up is broken |
| 04:18.19 | qwidj | however i have done a few thngs over the course of looking at it, including wiping the gpg and kwallet directories to start fresh, etc |
| 04:18.25 | thiago | please go to your distro's channel and ask them how to start gpg-agent before your plasma session |
| 04:18.37 | thiago | since this happens before plasma starts, it makes the issue not a #kde one |
| 04:18.46 | qwidj | OK, even if i see that gpg-agent is running? |
| 04:19.06 | thiago | can you try to encrypt something with gpg to check? |
| 04:19.54 | qwidj | i should clarify that i don't know if ti was running since before plasma started, since i've been on for a while. i likely started gpg-agent myself according to some instructions i read. but is it ok if is isn't started before plasma? ie once it's started, it's OK? |
| 04:19.56 | thiago | for example: open a terminal and run: echo | gpg --symmetric |
| 04:19.59 | thiago | do you get a password prompt? |
| 04:20.04 | qwidj | oh, ok let me see |
| 04:20.30 | thiago | I mean, a window asking for your password, not in the terminal |
| 04:21.24 | qwidj | just in terminal..it's true though that i restarted gpg-agent myself with only --daemon to see if restarted it helped |
| 04:21.31 | qwidj | it had other options when i first saw it in ps. |
| 04:21.38 | thiago | ok, that's what you need to fix |
| 04:21.38 | qwidj | let me see if i can restart it with the full options |
| 04:21.46 | thiago | you need to get gpg-agent started before your plasma session |
| 04:21.54 | thiago | to confirm it works, do this test I've just given you |
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| 04:22.50 | qwidj | hmm, i started it with the options i had seen when i frst saw it in ps, same result (asks in terminal) |
| 04:23.00 | qwidj | so i cannot restart it ever? |
| 04:23.13 | qwidj | i can try logging out and in then- |
| 04:24.24 | qwidj | hmm, but to log out.. i have 100 tabs open in chrome.. |
| 04:24.32 | thiago | you cannot ever restart gpg-agent, no |
| 04:24.36 | thiago | only by logging out and back in |
| 04:24.38 | qwidj | ok i will kill -9 and try logging back in |
| 04:24.42 | qwidj | ok |
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| 04:32.01 | qwidj | unfortunately same problem |
| 04:32.15 | qwidj | i see gpg-agent in ps when i open konsole |
| 04:32.37 | qwidj | but when i open kwalletmanager and try to open the wallet same error, and i see that when i do echo | gpg --symmetric it asks on terminal |
| 04:33.27 | qwidj | maybe i should try restarting? |
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| 04:34.15 | qwidj | unnamed app(6921): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-slau7Hk4am: Connexion refusée" |
| 04:34.18 | qwidj | unnamed app(6908): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly. |
| 04:34.19 | qwidj | 'Connection refused' |
| 04:34.31 | qwidj | when i killed kwalletmanager because it locked up, then tried to restart it |
| 04:34.57 | thiago | your environment is messed up |
| 04:34.58 | qwidj | i do feel like in the internals of my desktop system, all that rarefied stuff like dbus and systemd, there are some problems |
| 04:35.02 | qwidj | yes |
| 04:35.04 | qwidj | it has been iffy for a while |
| 04:35.06 | thiago | anyway, please ask on your distro's channel how to set up gpg-agent properly |
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| 04:41.08 | wolftune | I just realized a kgpg glitch: if it's already running, then it fails to open the encrypt/decrypt dialogs from dolphin actions |
| 04:41.15 | wolftune | valorie: howdy! |
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| 04:45.11 | valorie | hey wolftune |
| 04:45.17 | valorie | how are ya? |
| 04:45.40 | wolftune | busy, crazy, also mostly happily using Neon |
| 04:45.58 | valorie | excellent |
| 04:46.19 | valorie | is a minor part of that team |
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| 04:55.11 | JZA | hi I have an issue with kmail |
| 04:55.25 | JZA | I tried using the akonadi console but I am not sure where to look for email issues |
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| 04:58.43 | wolftune | so, I checked the stuff in kgpg to show the decrypt option in dolphin, but it isn't showing still |
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| 05:15.04 | qwidj | thiago: i think kwallet may be using gpg 1 instead of gpg 2 - your test works when i invoke gpg2 |
| 05:15.19 | qwidj | would this be a matter of configuring kwallet to use gpg2? |
| 05:19.49 | qwidj | hmm, even if have a wallet called 'kwallet', if i do kwallet-query -l kwallet, it says kwallet not found, also "Couldn't start kwalletd: QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Disconnected", "Not connected to D-Bus server") |
| 05:19.54 | qwidj | but i do have a kwalletd running |
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| 05:49.02 | ryzokuken | hey all! |
| 05:49.11 | ryzokuken | I just made a Konsole color scheme |
| 05:49.47 | ryzokuken | where could I find it? Also, where should I ask others to copy it in order to use it? |
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| 06:37.21 | mrnuke | "org.kde.plasma.pulseaudio: context kaput" |
| 06:37.30 | mrnuke | very nice error message :) |
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| 07:14.34 | himcesjf | How to reset cursor when it suddenly stop working and remains stuck? |
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| 07:57.53 | vvande | himcesjf: There are different reasons for why it could get stuck. |
| 07:58.12 | vvande | You could try unplugging your mouse and plugging it back in. |
| 07:58.49 | vvande | I use a KVM and find that can cause problems. Resetting it fixes the cursor. |
| 07:59.23 | vvande | Other than that, log out and back in. |
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| 07:59.25 | himcesjf | vvande: I am on laptop |
| 07:59.30 | vvande | oh |
| 07:59.33 | vvande | :) |
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| 08:00.45 | himcesjf | I think there exists a qt command to do basic reset of a stuck cursor |
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| 08:01.07 | vvande | what OS are you using? |
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| 09:39.25 | tdn | I am trying to migrate my SQLite db to mysql internal. But I get "Error while opening target database". I have provided a holder. What gives? |
| 09:39.39 | tdn | In DigiKam |
| 09:39.45 | tdn | In the list of the two mysql binaries, there is a checkmark on each. I assume this is some kind of pre-check and that it went well? But I cannot seem to migrate the db to mysql. What is required before I can migrate to an internal mysql db? |
| 09:39.53 | tdn | I have tried asking in #digikam, but it seems dead |
| 09:39.58 | tdn | The channel that is |
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| 09:47.20 | rgpt | hello everyone |
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| 09:47.46 | rgpt | i am an intermediate programmer in python and javascript |
| 09:47.56 | rgpt | and i am new to open source |
| 09:48.05 | rgpt | please can u help me |
| 09:48.08 | rgpt | ? |
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| 09:55.37 | lordievader | Good morning |
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| 11:16.44 | rindolf | lordievader: morning |
| 11:16.50 | rindolf | lordievader: how are you? |
| 11:17.44 | lordievader | Hey rindolf, I'm experimenting with jumbo frames. Strangely enough I see no bandwith increase with iperf -.- |
| 11:17.48 | lordievader | How are you doing? |
| 11:18.25 | rindolf | lordievader: I'm doing fine |
| 11:18.36 | rindolf | lordievader: thinking of what to do today |
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| 11:26.33 | rgpt | hello everyobe |
| 11:27.18 | rgpt | i am new to open source and interested in doing stuff involving python javascript or nodejs or Nodered |
| 11:27.18 | lordievader | o/ |
| 11:27.31 | rgpt | if anybody could mentor me |
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| 11:55.46 | FLHerne | rgpt: Not sure this is the right project for you, KDE doesn't use much Python and almost no JS :-/ |
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| 12:03.16 | rgpt | <Flherne> i am ready to learn and work |
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| 12:07.06 | svuorela | FLHerne: I'd say quite a bit of the qml stuff is javascript |
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| 13:53.57 | JenaPlinsky | Hi In my opensuse of tumbleweed, it happens very often that the screen is not rendered ... I do not know if the problem is X11 or some of the plasma configuration file ....to restore the (freeze) I have to disable and then re-enable the check button of the compositor (enables the effects at startup) .....someone can tell me where is the problem? |
| 13:56.25 | FLHerne | JenaPlinsky: Someone else mentioned that yesterday evening (unless that was you) |
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| 13:56.50 | asturm | Intel? |
| 13:56.52 | FLHerne | It's very likely a graphics-driver bug |
| 13:58.33 | JenaPlinsky | Yesterday was not me ...I have a normal intel board |
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| 14:05.24 | FLHerne | Other day was on Debian Testing, with Mesa/radeonsi |
| 14:05.40 | FLHerne | So, not (yet another) Intel DDX bug |
| 14:07.17 | FLHerne | And he said it started about a month ago, so not something very recent |
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| 14:12.37 | JenaPlinsky | yes it's no recent bug |
| 14:14.40 | JenaPlinsky | days ago I tested the wayland and this problem would not show |
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| 15:38.10 | lvk_ | hello |
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| 16:07.23 | Miguelon66 | hola |
| 16:07.38 | FLHerne | o/ |
| 16:07.46 | Miguelon66 | tengo un problemilla |
| 16:07.59 | Miguelon66 | no se instala plasma5 en mi pc |
| 16:09.30 | tosky | uhm, try on #kde-es, or better on the channel of your distribution/operating system |
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| 16:13.07 | Miguelon66 | hola utilizo kubuntu 14.04 |
| 16:13.16 | Miguelon66 | y no puedo instalar plasm 5 |
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| 16:13.23 | Miguelon66 | plasma 5 |
| 16:13.50 | tx | upgrade to 16 |
| 16:13.56 | tx | .04 or .10 |
| 16:14.03 | FLHerne | Miguelon66: Kubuntu 14.04 is very outdated and lacks the required software libraries, it would be impractical to install Plasma 5 on that version |
| 16:14.30 | asturm | s/impractical/nearly impossible/ |
| 16:14.30 | FLHerne | Miguelon66: Upgrade to 16.04 or 16.10; they have Plasma 5 installed by default |
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| 16:15.10 | FLHerne | asturm: Eh, you'd only have to rebuild Qt5 and all of KDE |
| 16:15.25 | asturm | FLHerne: not so sure wrt additional deps |
| 16:16.21 | FLHerne | asturm: I don't think that's too bad, except maybe a few things like bluetooth and loginctl and um no that's sort of a pain :P |
| 16:17.13 | asturm | loginctl is no requirement but I doubt 14.04 has consolekit2 either |
| 16:17.24 | tosky | s/all of KDE/almost all of Frameworks on Plasma/ |
| 16:17.26 | tosky | just to be sure |
| 16:17.29 | tosky | but still |
| 16:17.35 | asturm | it just makes no sense |
| 16:17.50 | tosky | asturm: oh, does consolekit2 provide a compatible logind dbus interface? |
| 16:18.37 | asturm | tosky: elogind is going to provide that, but for the time being as long as you do not aim to start a wayland session ck2 is enough |
| 16:18.56 | asturm | it is supported by sddm, powerdevil etc. |
| 16:19.04 | tosky | ah, ok |
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| 16:19.17 | tosky | I thought that the session locker required it |
| 16:19.23 | tosky | (that interface) |
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| 16:20.19 | asturm | only if your session breaks and you are locked out of it. not having loginctl makes it a little inconvenient to get back into your session |
| 16:20.38 | asturm | but it's still possible |
| 16:20.55 | tosky | I see |
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| 16:21.38 | asturm | unlocking is pam only |
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| 17:40.30 | newbie | from where can I get KDE irc logs ?? |
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| 17:41.56 | asturm | what do you hope to gain from them? |
| 17:43.17 | newbie | i want to contribute to kde in gsoc and I am a newbie. I thought some useful questions maybe asked before by other students. |
| 17:45.02 | asturm | newbie: I don't think logs are stored anywhere except on local disks of irc users |
| 17:45.25 | newbie | okay. thanks :) |
| 17:45.38 | asturm | newbie: if you have questions, don't hesitate to ask. |
| 17:48.05 | newbie | I wanted to ask that I know C,C++ and Java but have not contributed to any projects yet. Which section in KDE is suitable for such languages ?? From where can i get to know more about kde projects, means any software to try before ?? |
| 17:49.18 | asturm | newbie: a lot of distributions ship KDE software for you to try it out. that is Plasma, Applications and the Frameworks they are based on |
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| 17:50.23 | asturm | newbie: you know C++ so that is a good starting point, make yourself comfortable with Qt5 in addition |
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| 17:51.55 | newbie | ok I will learn more about Qt5 as soon as possible.Is there anything I should keep in mind from beginning, means any important software or any piece of advice |
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| 18:20.38 | bbear | hi |
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| 19:57.02 | Stormrider | hi o/ (<- newbie) |
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| 20:53.41 | FLHerne | Stormrider: Good evening |
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| 21:22.14 | V7 | Hey |
| 21:22.40 | V7 | Could somone help me with my trouble with Desktop Effects in KDE Neon 5.8 |
| 21:22.45 | V7 | They're not working ! |
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| 22:34.21 | raxp | hey guys, I have a strange problem. plasmashell just freezes, when any notification comes up. I'm using KDE 5.8.3 |
| 22:35.07 | raxp | What I noticed is that it happens on Oxygen theme. On Breeze it's all good |
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| 23:10.15 | valorie | raxp: you refer to the Plasma version? |
| 23:10.30 | raxp | yep |
| 23:11.15 | valorie | 5.8.5 has been released, and I believe 5.8.6 is in beta |
| 23:11.41 | valorie | would be good to test in the beta and see if that's still a problem |
| 23:11.48 | asturm | valorie: 5.9 is in beta |
| 23:11.55 | valorie | oh gosh |
| 23:12.11 | valorie | thanks for the correction, asturm |
| 23:12.18 | asturm | yw :) |
| 23:12.33 | valorie | I was about to say, for better info, check #plasma during euro-working hours |
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