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02:40.35ubuntu-mate_is kde fast
02:42.15tomcresI'm not really sure how you would gauge its speed. It really depends on your hardware.
02:44.31ubuntu-mate_which is much stable ubuntu unity or kde on same hardware?
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02:46.39tomcresKDE and Unity should be roughly the same in performance on the same hardware.
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03:46.17jadelclemensHey all, for some reason KDE crapped out on me recently. On login with sddm, I'm getting the "Could not start kdeinit5. Check your installation." error. I've located the line in startkde that prints this error and reinstalled kinit, but I'm not having any luck fixing this issue.
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04:21.20oneforall2darn tried killall -9 konqieror and it still won't stop
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07:09.29rapizarch,kde 5.8. How to remove all kate associations? I have already remove kate.
07:10.34rapizThe question with other program. After uninstalling something, the file associations always remain.
07:13.21kishore96rapiz: Remove the corresponding .desktop file in .local/share/applications
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07:14.44rapizkishore96: thx. That works.
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07:36.01dsfsadfsadHello. Wine app crashes when not ran in desktop emulation mode. I want to believe there's some window/program KDE option I can change in order to prevent this. Any ideas?
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07:45.46thiagoin each app's config file
07:45.56dsfsadfsadincorrect
07:45.57thiagoeach app remembers its window size
07:46.12dsfsadfsadthe answer was the file "kwinrulesrc" has them all
07:46.22thiagothen why did you ask?
07:46.41dsfsadfsadwhile I asked and you answered I found it myself
07:46.42thiagoanyway, I'm not wrong. Each app remembers its window sizes. But kwin can have rules to override and set some other settings.
07:46.46dsfsadfsadwhy do you ask why do I ask? grow up
07:46.57dsfsadfsadthanks anyway, see you
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08:08.47gryhi! I am trying to type in an audio track in k3b, in an audio cd project. it types latin characters ok, but types no characters when I press a keyboard key in cyrillic layout. what may I do, please?
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08:51.08YaiyanSo the new version of KDE still loses my panels....
08:51.14Yaiyanmeh
08:51.30YaiyanMight just switch to xfce for a year or two until plasma's more stable
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08:57.09lordievaderGood morning.
08:58.36leszekYaiyan: whats the problem ? Is there a bug report ? Which Plasma version ?
08:58.51sobczykwhere are kde default settings stored? (the ones before first user logs in)
08:59.12systemovichWhy do some applications not appear in Muon Discover, e.g. Konversation?
08:59.12sobczykI need to modify the default wallpaper
09:01.17leszeksobczyk: for the default wallpaper take a look at the breeze theme here: /usr/share/plasma/look-and-feel/org.kde.breeze.desktop/contents/components/artwork/
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09:01.54leszeksobczyk: though I would suggest creating a new theme based on breeze and set it as default
09:03.32sobczykleszek: I mean what is the base for the config files in .kde/share/config (or the new location)
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09:04.01leszek~/.config for local configurations for a specific user
09:04.08sobczykI want more than just the wallpaper, some default icons on desktop, favs in kicker
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09:04.31leszeksobczyk: are we talking about plasma 5 or plasma 4 (kde sc 4.14) ?
09:04.51sobczykplasma4 but I guess the backend did not change
09:05.07sobczykexcept placing the files in different location
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09:05.21leszekit changed
09:05.25sobczykthe kde defaults are not in /etc/skel so something creates it
09:06.14sobczykie. where is the template fort kdeglobals
09:06.33sobczykand the rest of the ini style files
09:06.49sobczykI need to modify the template
09:08.11sobczykkconf_update can't handle files that do not exist and plasma-desktop-appletsrc doesn't before first login
09:08.23leszeksobczyk: not very good. Some defaults are not written in config files but created by code. I suggest looking at the kubuntu-settings-default and how they modify stuff. See this (especially the tar.xz): http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/kubuntu-settings
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09:09.26leszeksobczyk: basically they create a /etc/kde4rc file which sets a directory defaults prefix to a folder where you can store your modifications
09:10.14leszekmaybe also good to take a look here at the structure: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/kubuntu-settings-desktop/filelist
09:11.17sobczykthats smart, and even better than what I wanted to do
09:11.22sobczykthanks
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09:12.58leszeksobczyk: as I see there is no scripting involved here. But I think it is recommend to use scripting instead of shipping a preconfigured plasma-appletsrc
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09:13.32leszekthough I don't have any example code here to link to I guess
09:13.33sobczykthere is no activitiees there, so some parts are created differently
09:14.27leszekyou can use a javascript file to create a panel and the default desktop configuration (desktop folder view or normal desktop without icons, wallpapers, widgets and so on=)
09:14.56sobczykwhere and when are the scripts run?
09:15.04leszekthats way better especially for different pcs with different resolutions as the plasma-appletsrc stores fixed values
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09:15.25leszeksobczyk: the script can be run on first start
09:15.49leszeklet me boot my old kde sc4 machine. I have some code there
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09:16.15sobczykI see there's plasma-dekstop/init/00-defaultLayout.js
09:16.25sobczykin the kubuntu customization
09:16.27leszekyeah exactly thats for the default desktop layout
09:16.40leszekthen there should be a layout.js for the panel aswell
09:18.32sobczykhow kde runs these?
09:19.05sobczykok found some docs
09:19.36leszekthey are run on first start somehow by kdeinit I guess. But I am not really sure
09:19.43sobczykleszek: did it change much in kf5? I want to migrate to xenial soon
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09:23.24leszeksobczyk: yeah did change
09:24.33leszeksobczyk: here is one example of a more customized desktop and panel: https://paste.kde.org/psbsbgov1  The wallpaper can be set like here shown in the outcommented part or by using the plasma theme which seems to work better: https://paste.kde.org/psbsbgov1
09:24.40leszekupps link inception
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09:39.58sobczykleszek: can I set immutability in the js init script?
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09:40.06sobczykthe [$i]
09:40.24leszekhonestly I don't know
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10:38.06BluesKaj'Morning folks
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10:51.25nwokihi all. Is there a way to activate the "Windows Decoration" dialog from command line?
10:52.42grynwoki, activate it from gui. Check the list of processes in `ps aux` and it would tell you.
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10:55.39nwokiand does anyone know where the config file for the "Window Decoration"  for BUTTONS is located?
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12:36.21sobczykleszek: is there any log what plasma runs?
12:36.41sobczykit seems it adds something beyond mine 00-defaultLayout.js
12:36.51leszeksobczyk: not that I know of. But you can take a look in the startkde script that usually starts plasma
12:37.11leszeksobczyk: yeah there might be widget dependant .js files aswell that it adds
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13:40.03stonedI'm on KDE4 on debian stable
13:40.05stoned:D
13:40.10stonedIt's okay but old and but it works
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15:44.07frantekhi, I've a problem with  http(s)://*.kde.org via IPv6 - DNS resolves to v4 and v6 but no kde.org site responds to IPv6 requests
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16:14.05profnixerfrantek: I don't see any AAAA Record for www.kde.org for example.
16:15.57profnixerfrantek: And it works for git.kde.org:
16:16.13profnixer~$ curl -v6 git.kde.org
16:16.16profnixer* Connected to git.kde.org (2a01:4f8:171:2687::3) port 80 (#0)
16:16.36profnixer(also for 443)
16:16.51stintelworks for me for kde.org
16:17.10profnixerAh, one moment.
16:17.25stintelbut that redirects to www.kde.org and I don't see an AAAA record there either
16:17.27profnixerhttps to git.kde.org does not work via IPv6
16:17.38profnixercurl: (35) gnutls_handshake() failed: An unexpected TLS packet was received.
16:18.24profnixerIt works through IPv4 but not through IPv6 via HTTPS.
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16:33.31frantekhmmm
16:34.15frantekwhen i connect to  fourm.kde.org (ol575.x.incapdns.net has IPv6 address 2a02:e980:d::22) I get a timeout
16:35.29frantek<PROTECTED>
16:35.29frantekcurl: (35) gnutls_handshake() failed: Error in the pull function
16:35.59frantekwhen i restrict firefox to IPv4 it works
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16:43.35frantekhttp requests result in a 301 to https
16:43.49frantekeven with IPv6
16:44.50frantekcurl -4 https://forum.kde.org  ... works
16:46.35franteki was wrong with *.kde.org - my problem is: forum.kde.org
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16:50.26franteke.g. identity.kde.org works with IPv6
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16:51.55frantekBTW: i lost my forum user name - what to do? wihtout i can't reset my password :(
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16:56.35frantekwell https://identity.kde.org/ only works partially with IPv6
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17:02.07markus_e92Hi all, in which variable is the output of the command kde-4config --path config stored?
17:05.17rdietermarkus_e92: I don't think it is stored anywhere, why do you ask?
17:05.58markus_e92rdieter because I want to add a directory to this paths (for a kiosk setup)
17:06.23rdieterah
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17:09.28rdietermarkus_e92: I think something like that is  possible editing /etc/kde4rc
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17:10.02rdieter(but I'm not aware of or can find any details or docs on it's syntax)
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17:10.42rdietersomething like: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=128131
17:10.44rdietermarkus_e92: ^^
17:11.35markus_e92rdieter: thanks I will try this
17:13.23rdietermarkus_e92: I can confirm that works (for me), but I had to make sure <prefix>/share/config existed before it was included in kde4-config --path config output
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17:16.24rdietermarkus_e92: and... for extra fun, if using > 1 entry in prefixes= field, need to use a comma separator
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17:16.52markus_e92rdieter: ok thanks
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17:17.23rdieterI'd tried : and ; (without success) before trying ,  :-/
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17:47.46MichaelTunnelldoes anyone know if Aurorae has been successfully transition to QWindow or at least no longer depends on QWidget?
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17:48.54MichaelTunnellI am looking into Aurorae as a solution for KWin themes but it seems to have very little documentation on this kind of thing.
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19:48.42masterprenium__Hi guys, I'm being stucked, I'm having a running overlay for ksnapshot (select a rectangle), but it didn't react to ESC or ENTER... How to kill it (in console) ?
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19:49.43tomcreskillall -9 ksnapshot
19:50.05masterprenium__No ksnapshot running ...
19:50.16masterprenium__I'm on plasma 5 ...
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19:51.15tomcresI wonder if xkill would work
19:53.12masterprenium__But I know know the resource id of the running "overlay"
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19:55.43masterprenium__Well fixed
19:56.00masterprenium__Found another bug I think ...
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19:56.58masterprenium__I cannnot killed it with xkill (clicking monitor 1), but was able to kill it on monitor 2 (Dual monitor setup), I think the resource was "stucked" on one screen, even if I had the overlay on both
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22:17.33chxhi. when i press the "window" key on my keyboard the menu comes up. this is new. I'd like to free up this key again. Where should I look?
22:22.22chxkwriteconfig5 --file kwinrc --group ModifierOnlyShortcuts --key Meta ""
22:22.24chxthank you.
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